Should we concede this battle to win the war?

He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight - Sun Tzu

So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak - Sun Tzu

Virtually everyone in the left blogosphere was disappointed at the nomination of Roberts to the SCOTUS.  Many who I respect on this site are gearing up to battle tooth and nail against this confirmation.  They see this as a matter of principle to save the country from Bush and his Theocon minions.  I respect this point of view... but is it the right one to be taking in this situation?  Should we fight a battle that at best we are on even ground with and at worse are on the defensive with, while avoiding the fight that is sure thing?  

Move not unless you see an advantage; use not your troops unless there is something to be gained; fight not unless the position is critical. If it is to your advantage, make a forward move; if not, stay where you are. Anger may in time change to gladness; vexation may be succeeded by content - Sun Tzu

Let's look at Robert's first.  From an ideological POV, this guy is a terrible nominee.  While his positions are not etched in stone due to a short time on the bench, the cases he argued and the groups he belongs too are insights into his thinking.  We can be reasonably suspicious he may try to overtune Roe v Wade.  We know he is not a friend of the enviroment.  We know he is not a friend of affirmative action or gay marriage.  This is troubling.

From a legal POV, Roberts has a lot going for him.  He went to one of the best Law Schools in the Country.  He clerked for the Chief Justice.  He has argued in front of the SCOTUS more than anyone else.  He knows the workings of the court and is completely qualified and respected as a legal mind (ignoring all political beliefs).  The only negative is that he has only been on the bench for 2 years.  This should be addressed during confirmation.

The major problem that lies here is that fron the logical POV of most people, he is more than qualified.  I would say that the average American either does not care about the political leanings or more likely, doesn't care about the nominee at all.  Unless a juicy scandal pops up, Roberts will be confirmed.  

Our options in battle are simple, we must filibuster him and fight what is strong... or we have to let him go to the floor.  I have always said a moral victory is worthless except for young children.  Filibustering gives us a win in the battle... however, we will have to keep fighting the same fight as Bush nominates another person.  It has the potential to backlash on us, which will cost us future battles.  

I look to Sun Tzu on this... Avoid what is strong and fight what is weak.  Roberts is a strong candidate...  Barring a filibuster he is a slam dunk.

The GOP does have several weaknesses that should be attacked however.  Rove is obviously number one.  We need to attack him now, especially since we know victory is emminent in this case.  Even if we fail to get the indictment, Bush and the GOP's support of him and the lying have damaged his credibility.  This has the potential to have far reaching implications in 2006 and 2008.  

First, it may force candidates to not use Rove as an adviser... Given his Machiavellian genius, I would say this is a good thing.

Two, it has sowed the seeds of distrust among the independents and conservative Dems.  Even moderate republicans are questioning the party.  We need to pounce on this distrust.  We need to start tying Rove and Delay together.  Business as usual, people that are corrupt and wield their power not for the people but for their own gain.  People that abuse the system.  Given recent polls, this is the weakest point the GOP has right now.  It will allow us to gain several seats in the house... We may not win the house, but it will put several people on notice who represent unsteady districts.  This also allows us to set the table for a 2008 run... winning the next major battle.  Given that in the next few years there will be a lot of SCOTUS noms, this is important.

So what is the best course of action?  Should we rubber stamp Roberts?  Hell no!  But should we use the filibuster... No.  The winner will be who controls the media's attention.  They want a bitter partisan battle that will create headlines.  We can't allow this.  We need to shift things back to Rove and Delay.  How do we do this?

My suggestion is that in the next few days, Reid needs to come out and make a statement.  He has done a preliminary review of Roberts record.  There are some things that he found very appealing and some things he found troubling.  There will be a lot of very tough questions to help dispell these troubling elements of the record.  However, the Dems will not filibuster Roberts, unless something extrordinary happens during the hearings.  During the same speech, Reid announces that he is petitioning the Senate to hold inquiries into the White Houses participation in a coverup of the Plume leak.  He is troubled by what is coming out, especially after the White House has denied for two years.  This administration has a history of this, and it is time that we as representatives of the American people work to restore faith and integrity of the government.  This puts Frist in a corner... Have the hearings and you hurt your primary chances by pissing off the party, don't have the hearings and you look as if you are part of the coverup (a message that will be spouted by every democrat).  

From here, the majority of our leadership and the progressive groups (including blogs etc) starts hitting this point and ties it in with Delay.  The corruption of government is terrible.  12 years of GOP control has produced leadership who care only about wielding their power like an ancient warlord and how much money.  They want to run your lives:  They want to control the things in your life that are most private:  your healthcare, what you watch on TV, listen to on the radio, download from the internet.  They want to force you to follow their beliefs.  This is a message that plays well with the liberal base and with the libertarian west.  Keep reframing gay rights and abortion as privacy issues.  Try to keep gun control out of the headlines unless it is about criminals and guns.  Hitting these few planks will pick us up a lot of support and seats in 2006... including many Sec of State and Governor Mansions... crucial for 2008.  

In the mean time, we have a small group of Senators (25 or so)... along with the abortion advocacy groups hitting the Roberts nomination.  Never use the filibuster rule... but work to defeat the nomination.  Find as much dirt as possible... Hammer the hell out of him during the hearings with a lot of tough questions.  But let the vote happen.  He will probably get confirmed... but if the Groups do their job the vote will be close.  If hit hard enough, you may even get some defectors from the GOP.  Party discipline will be important.

This stategy will helps us out alot.  By not focusing our whole on Roberts, we keep the pressure on the WH which hurts his agenda, legacy and the party.  This will help us win the war in the long run... Control of congress and the WH will allow us to shape the plethora of noms that will come out in the next few years...  Especially if Rhenquist and Breyer stay on until 2009.  

The art of war teaches us to rely not on the likelihood of the enemy's not coming, but on our own readiness to receive him; not on the chance of his not attacking, but rather on the fact that we have made our position unassailable - Sun Tzu

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Oh fuck
lets just close the party's door now... this is getting embarrassing.
by Parker 2005-07-20 07:27AM | 0 recs
I don't like your poll options--
Dems need to fight on both fronts.   Period.
by bellarose 2005-07-20 09:01AM | 0 recs
Re: I don't like your poll options--
Fighting equally hard on both fronts is not a logical option.  Both will not sustain in the media.  Thinking passionately, I agree.  From a strategic POV, it won't work... we will end up getting beat on both.  
by yitbos96bb 2005-07-20 09:04AM | 0 recs
Re: I don't like your poll options--
Or I should say, that fighting equally hard IN FRONT OF THE CAMERAS is not an option.  Behind the scenes, yes I agree fight both hard.  I would like to see the faces of the party fight ROve, while the grassroots fight Roberts.  The faces will get more press however, and we need to keep the focus on Rove, otherwise it will go away.
by yitbos96bb 2005-07-20 09:05AM | 0 recs
Sir, your atitude horrifies me.
It's all over the net.

And it's why Democrats never win anything.

We WILL NEVER WIN THE WAR WITHOUT FIGHTING BATTLES LIKE THIS ONE!

Grrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!

The fact that people think this way shows that we have no idea how to be an opposition party.

And if we can't be a successful opposition party, we can never take power.

You fight battles like this to DEFINE WHO YOU ARE AND WHO YOUR ENEMY IS!

Whether you win this battle doesn't matter. If you fight and lose the battle, you start to earn voters' respect and definition. Eventually you win.

The Thugs did this for decades.

We do not understand this principle. We think that unless we can win an election or vote there is no point in making a political effort.

Man, you make me angry.

If our party had any guts we would bury the Thugs.

But thinking like this keeps us in the pits.

by Thresholder 2005-07-20 10:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Sir, your atitude horrifies me.
Actually, after taking a closer read of what people are saying- your approach seems to be the consensus. The time table is different from my own, but everyone seems to agree that even losing here means we can start to win the war
by bruh21 2005-07-20 12:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Sir, your atitude horrifies me.
You are assuming that by doing this and fighting balls to the wall against Roberts that it would somehow elevate the party up above the GOP and bury them.  HOW?  I agree we need to fight a whole hell of a lot more... but we need to intelligently pick our battles.  Filibustering this guy has more chance to hurt us than help us...  ignoring his ideology for a minute, his legal background is outstanding.  A filibuster doesn't fly.  No one says don't dig as much dirt as possible.  No says for the activists to fight this.  But it NEEDS to be taken out of the headlines and put back on Rove.  That will do damage to the GOP... If we keep Roberts from being confirmed, there will be another one in the pipe just like him.  The more we do it, the more fodder we give the GOP.  

I make you angry?  You make me furious... I care about this party as much as you do.  I respect the emotions, but acting on emotions will get you killed.  You have no concept of strategy Threshholder.  Otherwise you would see the smart play is continuing to go after Rove.

Make this guys life a living Hell in the confirmation hearings... no issues with that.  But the party leaders SHOULD NOT fight this in the media right now and should concentrate on Rove.  If we bow to people like you who just want to make decisions on emotions (which is just as bad as the THEOCONS who do the same thing), this party will be crushed.

by yitbos96bb 2005-07-21 04:42AM | 0 recs
Re: Sir, your atitude horrifies me.
And if you go back and look, the GOP fought stuff they knew they could win.  
by yitbos96bb 2005-07-21 04:43AM | 0 recs

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