Still believe Obama would oppose '02 war vote?
by yellowdem1129, Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 11:25:41 AM EDT
Subtitle: How Hillary won the Primary
Right now it seems that the political atmosphere is ripe for a Democratic sweep in November. I was among the conventional thinkers early on in this decade who wouldn't have predicted it so soon and certainly not this way: Republican implosion mostly because of George Bush. Yet the issues that seem to motivate the most fervent anti-bush sentiment here and on the 'net are almost universally supported by "national democrats". Those are the people who perceive that they have a future as a party leader.
For example, no serious person thinks Hillary would have voted against FISA had she been the Dem. nominee in waiting, but freed from "responsibility" she panders to the left.
The main issue that propelled Obama to being on the cusp of our next POTUS was that he "had the judgement" to be against the Iraq War when all of the seasonsed and experienced politicians got it wrong. They enabled Bush, while Obama "took a bold stand".
I didn't believe it for one minute during the primaries. Many on the Hillary side tried to show the flip-flops in 2004 and 2006 when it wasn't certain where the politics were on the issue.
But now the question for all democrats is:
Does anyone serious still believe Obama would have opposed the 2002 war resolution?
The evidence all points to a resounding NO!
Every instinct he has shown has been toward being a mainstream democrat.
There hasn't been 1 issue where he is willing to stand on his own and fight it out.
Take the "talk with Iran w/o preconditions" bit. Once his aides and Obama finished explaining and "refining", it is hardly "change" or radically different from Bush or the bulk of the Democratic Party.
same on FISA
same on Guns
same on every single major issue.
What we are left with is quite simple:
A mainstream left-leaning democrat who doesn't want the liberal label, whose biggest selling point is that he has black skin.
This in and of itself represents real change from our nation's history.
For any real democrat like me, the bottom line is Obama is not only acceptable, he is great for the party.
He will maximize black turnout while disarming fears of wild-eyed liberals.
That is why any betting person would wager on an Obama-democratic surge in November once he turns the Speech machine back on.
No way to do that now and maintain it for months and months through the Olympics and the rest.
But I think at the least Obama Primary supporters should apologize to people like me who tried to tell you:
he's playing the race card
he's a typical politician
You still won. Obama has brought me and must of us home to the Dem party.
But come on, admit it,
If I told you what the Dem. nominee would do for the month after the primary in terms of positions on issues and "values" they wanted to project,
you'd get depress because you'd think
Well in a way she did.
and that is good for the party and our nation.