no more campaign: Clinton-Obama 2008

by yellowdem1129, Sat Feb 02, 2008 at 12:32:10 AM EST

There are three days left until the Super Tuesday election.
Thank God I'm alive in America as an African American at this time.

For me, no more campaign. I think the race is over. While it is competitive and may get uncomfortably close, Hillary Clinton will be the 44th President of the United states.

Our ticket should be Clinton - Obama. Until the Primary is officially conceded, I will simply offer positive reasons in support of Hillary Clinton, so as not to denigrate our next Vice President.

Why Hillary? (no order)

1. She has the experience to be a great President
http://craigfarmer.blogspot.com/2007/12/ hillary-clinton-experience-timeline.html

2. She look, acts, and is Presidential.

3. The Clinton machine is very good at politics

4. She has a vision to achieve a basically liberal America that maintains strong values.
5. She is deep-down in her soul a fighter: for her marriage, for herself, and for this great country.

I like and respect all of the above about Hillary Clinton. I look forward to the next four years of pushing her and democrats towards more newliberal ideas that are based on evidence and not ideology. We need to support:

* vouchers and market-place education reform

criminal justice reform that attacks violent crime and de-emphasizes "victimless crimes" like private drug use and gambling
a more open-minded hollywood and music industry that isn't trying to convince America of a leftwing agenda
universal healthcare and retirement accounts using a free-market
being 100% pro-choice while continuing work to reduce actual abortions

*an assault on poverty and inequity so that every child has an equal opportunity to succeed
*measures to promote marriage and discourage divorce

In the 1990's the Clintons did a good job in the White House of advancing many good causes under difficult circumstances:

among others...

*They changed the trajectory of America with their effort to save Affirmative Action and promote Diversity.
*They ushered in a new lexicon for liberal democrats to communicate with the public on economic matters
*They promoted an intellectual approach to issues that was easy for average Americans to grasp.

I expect even more from Hillary Clinton.

Now is the time to work as hard as we can to make history by having the first female President, and first African American Vice-President.

Tags: Barack Obama, craig famer, Election, Hillary Clinton, newliberals (all tags)

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Re: no more campaign: Clinton-Obama 2008

School Vouchers?!?!?!?!

Seriously???????

We're fighting the Republicans to the death here in Texas to try and kill those things. They're the beginning of a two tiered educational system.

by Trowaman 2008-02-02 12:35AM | 0 recs

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Yep, I actually have to disagree...

With yellowdem on that. Sorry, but vouchers just don't work. Let's keep public education PUBLIC and open to all. Hillary agrees with us on that, and I'm sure as President she'll do what's best for our kids.

by atdleft 2008-02-02 05:34AM | 0 recs

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Hey Yellow Dog, I would have never guessed

you're supporting Hillary!! ;-)

Me Too!!

by Norwegian Chef 2008-02-02 01:13AM | 0 recs

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and with a nice and positive diary

that gets us talking about policy and not about personality. Thanx for a thinking diary.

by anna shane 2008-02-02 08:12AM | 0 recs

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The campaign goes on

It is getting HOT in here!!!

by puma 2008-02-02 01:43AM | 0 recs

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Re: no more campaign: Clinton-Obama 2008

How can you Hillary supporters even think for a moment that the drug-dealing, race-baiting, Muslim 'empty suit,' who peddles 'false hope' and admires Reagan, whose supporters are cultists and ignoramuses is fit to run with your fine candidate?

You have been abusing, smearing, denigrating, insulting, libelling, slandering and attempting to destroy him for months. A fair few of you have said they would vote for a Republican or stay home instead if he was nominated. How many gleefully recommended, content-free hit diaries have been posted?

Get real. What a load of prevaricating and mealy-mouthed rubbish. What a hypocritical bunch you turned out to be. You loathe him and all he stands for and all his supporters to boot.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-02-02 02:56AM | 0 recs

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Re: no more campaign: Clinton-Obama 2008

Yeah, I had the same thought. Hilarious and sad.

by ChrisR 2008-02-02 04:06AM | 0 recs

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Re: no more campaign: Clinton-Obama 2008

well, he's kinda cute ;-)

by campskunk 2008-02-02 05:30AM | 0 recs

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No, we don't loathe Obama...

We just loathe the notion that Reagan was a "transformational figure" that "curbed the excesses" of the '60s (like what? civil rights? antiwar activism? feminism? great society reforms?). We just loathe the notion that our "hopes" for a truly UNIVERSAL health care system wouldn't be realized under an Obama Administration. We just loathe the notion that we wouldn't see real progressive "change" in our economic policies under an Obama Administration. That's all.

If you really call our fact based critiques of Obama "vitriol", then I guess you don't spend much time outside Daily Kos.

by atdleft 2008-02-02 05:39AM | 0 recs

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Re: No, we don't loathe Obama...

Fact-based critiques? Yeah, there's been quite a few of them on the recommended list for the last six months. Pity Hillary supporters are not more faithful to a fact-based reality.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-02-02 11:56AM | 0 recs

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Re: no more campaign: Clinton-Obama 2008

So you're taking a page from the Karl Rove playbook and accusing Hillary supporters of doing what Obama's nutty, rabid followers have been doing.

See? We knew Obama was a Republican in drag.

by cc 2008-02-02 07:18AM | 0 recs

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It's stage 3

Bargaining.

We've already seen denial, pre-Iowa.... We've had a whole month of anger.

Now - it's bargaining.

So long as Camp Clinton makes it to "Acceptance" by the GE, we'll be fine.

by zonk 2008-02-02 09:28AM | 0 recs

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Re: It's stage 3

Actually all this VP talk all of a sudden is a screwy variation of the popular 'wait his turn' narrative. They're getting desperate, apparently.

Maybe it's just me but I have a strong feeling Obama would politely decline such an offer. I would be very disappointed if he didn't.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-02-02 11:54AM | 0 recs

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Re: It's stage 3

Yeah but stage four is going to be very messy.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-02-02 12:00PM | 0 recs

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Re: no more campaign: Clinton-Obama 2008

Vouchers, private retirement accounts (sounds like privatizing SS to me), hollywood "pushing a left wing agenda?"

WTF are you talking about?

by HSTruman 2008-02-02 05:34AM | 0 recs

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Re: no more campaign: Clinton-Obama 2008

Yes - Obama and his supporters have played the Race Card big time.
Obama's racial slur against Edwards during the SC debate demonstrated his sleaziness and guaranteed I'd never vote for Oblahma.

by annefrank 2008-02-02 06:22AM | 0 recs

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Re: no more campaign: Clinton-Obama 2008

>>>>For no matter what Edwards did, he was constantly shoved out of the limelight. Obama described it accurately in the South Carolina debate when he talked about "a race where you've got an African-American and a woman ... and John."
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/0 1/31/edwards

Obama supporters have consistently called the Edwardses sexist and racist.
IIRC - Matt Stoller began the meme last summer.

And then ObamaBots began working on the Clintons - smearing them as racists.

by annefrank 2008-02-02 07:37AM | 0 recs

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Re: no more campaign: Clinton-Obama 2008

For most of the campaign I have thought that Hillary would pass on Obama as her VP choice and chose someone like Wes Clark, Jim Webb or, if I may dream, Al Gore.

Yet since the primary contests have begun it has become clear to me that her smartest, and now maybe only, choice will have to be Obama. Not only will this heal and unify the party after such a hard fought campaign, but Obama has also been able to get many Dems off the couch and to the polls.

In addition, imagine the money the two of them would be able to raise together. Money shouldn't matter, but it will be needed.

by Mr Man 2008-02-02 06:39AM | 0 recs

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Obama Burn Out

I think Obama really went over the line with his "she'll say anything to get elected" in addition to that dirty health care campaign ad he's running. I don't know, I want Hillary to win this thing, and if she does I am not sure she should put Obama on the ticket. Webb would be better against McCain.

by cc 2008-02-02 07:14AM | 0 recs

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Re: no more campaign: Clinton-Obama 2008

I agree, no way that Obama will join HRC.. he is not running for V-P.. nothing personal but he is running for POTUS of America.

If he loses he will congratulate HRC, work for her election and go back to the senate and work to put her programs into reality.

Just like HRC will do for him if he wins,right?
No offense, they are just not a good pairing.
She would do better to pick Webb or Clark.

I do not think Obama wants to have Bill Clinton usurping him as a VP. It will be a strange setup with Bill around for any VP. Awkward. Uncomfortable.

I could be wrong.

by hawkjt 2008-02-02 07:59AM | 0 recs

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Re: no more campaign: Clinton-Obama 2008

I agree; while I think Clinton would try to give Obama as much freedom as he wants to built himself up for the presidency after her term (and I think, with the VP position under his belt, most Democrats would rally to him after Clinton left office), he and Bill just wouldn't get along.

That doesn't mean he shouldn't take it, but I'd hope he'd consider it if Clinton wins.

by ejintx 2008-02-02 08:40AM | 0 recs

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Re: Of course he will consider it

It depends on the Republican candidate. If it's Clinton vs. McCain, Obama is not the most advantageous. The problem is this: the Democrats need to appeal to veterans and current servicemen and Clinton doesn't have anything close to military service except for serving on the Armed Services Committee. Obama's only military appeal is that he resisted Iraq, but that's not even really an appeal to that community. She needs Wesley Clark against McCain.

If the economy remains the big issue, Obama is probably the best choice, but Evan Bayh is a close second - especially considering how popular he is with independents and Republicans.

by ejintx 2008-02-02 12:31PM | 0 recs

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Re: Of course he will consider it

Clinton does not HAVE to do squat. You are wrong.

by WMCB 2008-02-02 01:45PM | 0 recs

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Ask YOUR candidate, HRC, to concede and

request Obama to put her on his ticket,

by NeuvoLiberal 2008-02-02 08:33AM | 0 recs

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Re: no more campaign: Clinton-Obama 2008

ooof, too many points to go after in your diary but Obama has done as much as Hillary and doesn't have 99% of the baggage that she and Bill would bring to the General Election.

Obama-Webb 2008

by Chavez100 2008-02-02 08:46AM | 0 recs

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I believe in

Hrc for president,

and

issues like vouchers:

I reject they are conservative.

Look at the idea:

1. we're going to give everyone the opportunity to have a great education regardless of their ability to pay?

get that:

REGARDLESS OF THEIR ABILITY TO PAY.

That is PROGRESSIVE,
That is LIBERAL
That is what Democrats usually stand for.

by yellowdem1129 2008-02-02 10:42AM | 0 recs