Sarah Palin and Rape Kits

With all the fluff and nonsense out there in media-land, and all the marvelous doom and gloom diaries here, it does seem to me we are letting some really STUNNING potential "got-chas' maybe fly by, to try and erode this strange identification some women seem to have that Sarah Palin is just like them, and would be a champion for them in the WH?

It's been reported, (and true, I am short of details as to the reasoning here), but supposedly Palin as Mayor changed the police policy for Rape Kits by making the victim of the supposed Rape responsible for the price of the kits?

Now, perhaps this was some kind of budget exercise, and even that is pretty egregious in and of it self.

But, what I think could be going on there is, the world view of the Hard Religious Right that "Feminist" thinking uses the charge of Rape as a club against men.  

In fact, you have ideologues like James Dobson claiming that (again from a biblical sense, and that to them is the only world view) a husband CANNOT be charged with raping his wife at all. It is his God given right to have sex with her, and her refusal is not lawful. You know, a dog can't refuse its owners requests, furniture shouldn't  complain either.

If this is in any way Ms Palin's reasoning for making the victim pay for the rape kit, because she believes rape is a FALSE charge in even SOME cases, isn't THAT something that should be put in an ad and run 24/7 in the Midwest to hit those women that seem to find some kind of identity with the Palin candidacy?

Isn't that something that all but the truly bent anti-feminist women should find exemplifies a mindset so counter to virtually everything the women's movement has stood for?

There was an article on Salon today about a feminist who was dumbfounded, having been on a plane with a woman her age, and struck up a conversation about Palin.

This woman was more than enthusiastic about the Palin pick, and she was saying how great it was, because this showed that a woman just like her (she was obviously self-actualizing with Palin) could be President?  I guess, cause she was a mom, married, same age and demographic.

Here is the really BAD part of that thinking.

Yes, we tell every kid, you CAN grow up to be President. That is why it's so wonderful that Obama has (potentially) broken the barrier of race, and sad that Senator Clinton did not break that barrier for women...

But the broken logic here is, not everyone SHOULD grow up to be President?

This is the "Bush is the guy I would like to have as a neighbor, have a beer with" criterion for choosing the most important position on the planet gone amuck!

Hey, it's a good thing to take inspiration from successful people, I was watching Serena Williams at the US Open and, as an amateur tennis player, I was still feeling that charge playing last night on a gorgeous autumn summer here in Seattle.

But, that doesn't mean I was ever meant to set foot on Center Court at Flushing Meadows!

As John Stewart says, I want the smartest guy on the planet in the WH, and I want to KNOW he is smarter then I am.

If you pull the handle for Sarah Palin because she makes you feel good about yourself and IGNORE she is possible the worst candidate a modern American woman could want to set gender policies, well, then, there is no one to blame for this election if Obama loses EXCEPT the electorate.

Not his campaign, not some idea that he should have picked Clinton as VP...

What we have is, as with Bush, an electorate that for some reason just gets it wrong, votes on who they want to have a beer with, or who makes them "feel good" about themselves.

No wonder the Europeans think we are madder then hatters?  

And, if McCain/Palin wins, they are proven undeniably correct.

Tags: Palin, women's champ-a non-doom and gloom diary (all tags)

Comments

18 Comments

I'd like to see some citation

While I've heard a little on the rape kit issue, I'd like to see it explored more thoroughly and with appropriate citation, so we don't do what the right wingers do, which is to say something without citations or with the most tenuous citations and then repeat it as fact over and over until everyone just assumes it's true.

I'm given to understand that the policy is to charge women's insurance for the rape kit to collect evidence of the rape, but the problem comes when the woman has no insurance.

Here is what I got from Google in 5 seconds.

It appears as though this is a sad but common practice.  The big question is whether it became an issue while she was mayor: if nobody without insurance got raped and needed evidence collected, it's hard to point to actual harm done or malfeasance on Palin's part.

Clearly more information is needed.

by Dracomicron 2008-09-11 01:42PM | 0 recs
Re: I'd like to see some citation

Hi D....

So let me ask you, does the fact SHE might not be the only politician to go this way mean we should NOT call her out?

Ask youself, have the Republics EVER not brought a charge with that kind of caveat holding them back?

Hell, they out and out LIE about charges and we get pummelled for it.

by WashStateBlue 2008-09-11 01:45PM | 0 recs
Re: I'd like to see some citation

I think the question is whether SHE had anything to do with it at all. If she did then I say pound her with it, but let's be careful and make sure it's true before doing any pounding.

by Mystylplx 2008-09-11 01:52PM | 0 recs
Re: I'd like to see some citation

Would they bother to check if it is 100% accurate first?

No?

Thats what I thought.

I want to win.

by JDF 2008-09-11 02:19PM | 0 recs
I want to win too.

That's why I say to be careful. She's a woman. They're already crying sexism for every criticism. Fair or not we have to be extra careful with her. We don't want to present the appearance of a bunch of sexist males beating up on a poor little hocky mom, especially the appearance of a black male beating up on a poor little white hocky mom.

Right or wrong these are the realities of the situation. If this were Steven Palin we wouldn't have to worry, but ironically we have to be sexist to avoid being accused of sexism. Remember the primary?

by Mystylplx 2008-09-11 02:56PM | 0 recs
I just want there to be meat on the bone

If we're going to get to ravaging them on this kind of thing, there had better be something there, or else it's a distraction and a waste of time from all the actual stuff we've got on the McCain/Palin ticket.

A little research doesn't hurt, does it?  That's all I'm asking.

The Republicans (c'mon, don't call them "Republics;" they're not independant states all to themselves) might not ascribe to our standards, but our standards are why we deserve to win and they don't.  

I desperately want to win this cycle, but I don't want to become what I hate to do it.

by Dracomicron 2008-09-11 01:56PM | 0 recs
Sad, common, and unlawful.
In order to qualify for federal grants under the Violence Against Women Act, states have to assume the full out-of-pocket costs for forensic medical exams, as the rape kits are called. But according to a 2004 bulletin published by the NCVC, "[F]eedback from the field indicates that sexual assault victims are still being billed
Even if you want to go with the everybody-is-doing-it defense Mayor Palin was still guilty of malfeasance.  Unless of course she told the US Congress thanks but no-thanks for those federal grants.  Also if someone was raped and didn't report because they weren't able to spring for the kit, that seems like the worst kind of harm.
by tonedevil 2008-09-11 01:57PM | 0 recs
That's what I'm talking about

Keep our powder dry until we have some actual data.  

Good work, tonedevil.

by Dracomicron 2008-09-11 01:59PM | 0 recs
I learned it from watching you.

In all seriousness I had no idea this was even a concept let alone being practiced.  I have a new cause, regardless of where it is done this is blame-the-victim at it's worst.

by tonedevil 2008-09-11 02:26PM | 0 recs
Don't blame me for your awesomeness

I was too lazy to even read the link I gave in my response above.  This is all you. :)

by Dracomicron 2008-09-11 02:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Sad, common, and unlawful.

Yup, thanks TD.

Even if this is just part of a pattern, my gut tells me Ms Palin is like her RR bretheren, who may talk about whats good for woman, but basically reflect their religious patriarchal take on the world.

by WashStateBlue 2008-09-11 02:54PM | 0 recs
The problem comes from

charging them or the insurance companies at all!

Do we charge to put out a fire? Do we charge to dust for finger prints? Do we charge for any part of any investigation into any crime?

Why should this be differnt?!

by kevin22262 2008-09-11 02:15PM | 0 recs
You're very correct

That's why we need all our facts straight before ramming them down the Republicans' throats (also known as: sending to Rachel Maddow).

by Dracomicron 2008-09-11 02:44PM | 0 recs
Here are some links

Make this diary even better! You are one of the better diarist.

This story has legs... run with it.

Critics: Under Palin, Wasilla charged rape victims for exam
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/stor y/52266.html

Eight years ago, complaints about charging rape victims for medical exams in Wasilla prompted the Alaska Legislature to pass a bill -- signed into law by Knowles -- that banned the practice statewide.

"There was one town in Alaska that was charging victims for this, and that was Wasilla," Knowles said
...

Sarah Palin and the Rape Kit Question
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/on-health-an d-money/2008/9/10/sarah-palin-and-the-ra pe-kit-question.html

This despite the fact that in order to qualify for federal grants under the Violence Against Women Act, states are supposed to pick up the entire tab.

If on her watch Sarah Palin allowed women to be charged for rape kits, she has some serious explaining to do.
...

Palin's town used to bill victims for rape kits
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/el ection2008/2008-09-10-rape-exams_N.htm

WASILLA, Alaska -- In 2000, Alaska lawmakers learned that rural police agencies had been billing rape victims or their insurance companies $500 to $1,200 for the costs of the forensic medical examinations used to gather evidence. They quickly passed a law prohibiting the practice.

According to the sponsor, Democrat Eric Croft, the law was aimed in part at Wasilla, where now-Gov. Sarah Palin was mayor. When it was signed, Wasilla's police chief expressed displeasure.

That is the same police chief that, I believe, that palin put into office after dumping the previous one.

by kevin22262 2008-09-11 02:27PM | 0 recs
It gets worse

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/11/ 165456/985/717/595263

In 1994, John McCain voted against legislation -- pushed through Congress by Joe Biden -- that helped put an end to the practice of charging rape victims for sexual assault exams.

The vote: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/ro ll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?con gress=103&session=2&vote=00295

Biden's legislation required that state, local, and Indian governments provide the rape exams to victims free of charge as a condition of receiving federal funds under the Violence Against Women Act. [...] McCain not only opposed Biden's legislation, but also has voted against funding it as recently as October 2007.

by Neef 2008-09-11 02:40PM | 0 recs
I smell VP debate topic

Great work!

by Dracomicron 2008-09-11 02:43PM | 0 recs
Re: Sarah Palin and Rape Kits

it's the American way, why Bush won.  Weird, scary, but true.  

by anna shane 2008-09-11 02:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Sarah Palin and Rape Kits

Thanks folks!

Where there is smoke, turns out there may be fire?

I think this is part of a pattern, we need to combat anyone that wants to look at Sarah Palin and think, like Senator Clinton, she would be sympathetic to my issues.

It couldn't be further from the truth.

Why does Dobson love her so much?

Because she is the PERFECT stalking horse, she can undo all the good things we have accomplished for woman's issues, and package it with a woman's spin and a family friendly smile!

I figure everyone has read "The Handmaids Tale"..

There is also a great reference to that distopia in that salon article, where, she says, those touting Sarah Palin as 'their feminist idea' really want THAT version of feminism...

Scary stuff.

by WashStateBlue 2008-09-11 03:00PM | 0 recs

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