Hillary stands strong behind Bill Shaheen

The Clinton campaign announced today that Billy Shaheen will stay on as co-chair of their New Hampshire campaign. They're standing strong behind Shaheen, who yesterday told the Washington Post that Barack Obama might be a crack dealer.

Will Obama challenge Hillary on this during the debate? Will Edwards challenge Hillary? I'm betting that they both do. Hillary will have a prepared (and canned) apology ready, but if Obama refuses to accept it, that could cause some fireworks.

I have a recommendation for Obama. I think he should say the following:

"These types of Rovian tactics have no place in our party. What's next? Are you going to accuse me of having fathered a black child?"

Each day that Billy Shaheen remains as Clinton's NH chair is another day that they implicitly condone these types of attacks.

PS: Not that I'm whining. I think this issue is MARVELOUS for Obama. It really helps frame Hillary as a sleazy and desperate candidate. This scandal is Hillary's Katrina, and Billy Shaheen is Michael Brown.

Crossposted at Democrats Against Hillary

Tags: Bill Shaheen, drugs, Hillary, obama, Rove, Sleaze (all tags)

Comments

30 Comments

Ask a silly question get a silly response

I don't think Obama is a crack dealer.  But I do think Bill Shaheen did nothing wrong.  He simply pointed out the obvious.  Republicans will paint Obama as a cokehead.

by dpANDREWS 2007-12-13 06:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Ask a silly question get a silly response

Then why has Hillary just apologized?

by General Sherman 2007-12-13 06:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Ask a silly question get a silly response

LOL! You think he did the right thing? I can only hope and pray that there are more like you out there.

by wahoopaul 2007-12-13 06:38AM | 0 recs
was it an effective attack by HRC campaign?

If it was effective, how was it effective?

If it wasn't effective, what conclusion should be drawn about HRC's effectiveness as a campaigner?

From my perspective, the attack made the HRC campaign look bad and derailed the HRC campaign more than the Obama campaign.

HRC supporters like to envision their candidate as more battle-tested, but what if she's not effective at going on the attack?

Is there any reason to assume that taking blow after blow as First Lady is the same as being able to go negative against a specific opponent on the campaign trail?

by Carl Nyberg 2007-12-13 08:09AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary stands strong behind Bill Shaheen

They're standing strong behind Shaheen, who yesterday told the Washington Post that Barack Obama might be a crack dealer.

This line really demonstrates your deep-seated commitment to the truth.  Really disappointing, isn't it, that others are not as honest as you.

by Steve M 2007-12-13 06:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary stands strong behind Bill Shaheen

Some call it  " Clinton derangement syndrome " ( thank Taylor Marsh for that one ) .

I won't bother with it , it is simply not curable in some people even with therapy.

by lori 2007-12-13 06:37AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary stands strong behind Bill Shaheen

So...when a politician says something at a press conference under the guise of "others might say", he's not making a direct accusation? I think he is!

by wahoopaul 2007-12-13 06:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary stands strong behind Bill Shaheen

Among other things, he obviously didn't say anything about being a "crack dealer."

You seem to think that making things up enhances your argument.  I take the opposite position.

by Steve M 2007-12-13 06:59AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary stands strong behind Bill Shaheen

Ya you're right Steve.  But you know, I am afraid that the Republicans will attack HRC as a lesbian.  I am also afraid that they will attack her as being totally unable to tell the truth.  And I am really afraid that they will attack HRC as being responsible for Vince Foster's death.

by Andy Katz 2007-12-13 10:42AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary stands strong behind Bill Shaheen

I'm not afraid, but you're right that they will do those things.

by Steve M 2007-12-13 11:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary stands strong behind Bill Shaheen

Ya you're right Steve.  But you know, I am afraid that the Republicans will attack HRC as a lesbian.  I am also afraid that they will attack her as being totally unable to tell the truth.  And I am really afraid that they will attack HRC as being responsible for Vince Foster's death.

by Andy Katz 2007-12-13 10:42AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary stands strong behind Bill Shaheen

Hillary should know it gave him an excuse to ask for small donations again.  5000 donations in 24 hours.  Sounds pretty easy compared to last time when he got 10,000 donations in about 30 hours, and over 14,000 donations in 48 hours.  

I wouldn't recommend that type of response.  Last time when he was asked about "Kindergate" He had a few different responses.  One was that he laughed and said he could write essays in kindergarten.  The second was he laughed a little and said something like, "It's silly season, I hear she quoted my kindergarten teacher."  The third one was that he said, "Some people are looking at the polls and getting a little stressed out."  Those were all good and he should stick to those.  If he comes off as angry, then she wins.  

by SixthElement 2007-12-13 06:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary stands strong behind Bill Shaheen

Yeah I don't actually recommend that k ind of response. I would just be amused by it.

His best response was his press release yesterday. You're totally right.

by wahoopaul 2007-12-13 06:39AM | 0 recs
typo

said he wasn't writing essays in kindergarten.

by SixthElement 2007-12-13 06:40AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary stands strong behind Bill Shaheen

Hillary has just apologized.

Obama should say he accepts it. Not because he really does, but because he looks better taking the high road.

The press will get into whether it was a planned hit or not.

by General Sherman 2007-12-13 06:42AM | 0 recs
ofcourse he will accept it

Hillary probably got a lot of flack from balck dems who have endorsed her. Those reps were probably flooded with calls. The thing is with apologys is you only get to do it once, anytime someone from her camp goes over the line it looks awful for her now.

by nevadadem 2007-12-13 06:45AM | 0 recs
Re: ofcourse he will accept it

Yes, I know many of her black supporters weren't too happy. This was the right thing for her to do and it should save her some grief.

by General Sherman 2007-12-13 06:47AM | 0 recs
Re: ofcourse he will accept it

yes it saves her some defections that were probably threatened but it also takes any borderline stuff off the table for them now.

by nevadadem 2007-12-13 06:48AM | 0 recs
Re: ofcourse he will accept it

Right. Although, I think her full-force strategy wasn't helping her anyway. Maybe this was good for her campaign.

I bet you Penn counseled against the apology.

by General Sherman 2007-12-13 06:51AM | 0 recs
Re: ofcourse he will accept it

no imagine if a John Lewis or someone defected over it, black leaders are very split with alot of them endorsing Hillary simply out of loyalty. No self-respecting civil rights leader could have liked those comments so some phone calls were made I'm sure.

by nevadadem 2007-12-13 06:53AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary stands strong behind Bill Shaheen

What I think is funny is that all of the Clinton Collective flacks here the last several days defended her statement.  Now, she apologizes.  Now, is she lying when she says she is sorry or was that trully a horriblly inappropriate thing to say.

This is not the first time this has happened and it is great to watch.  The clones here defend HRC's use of Obama's kindergarden paper, then the campaign says it was stupid.  The clones here defend HRC's use of planted questions, then the campaign says it was a mistake and their not going to do it anymore.  Pretty enjoyable to watch.

by Andy Katz 2007-12-13 10:46AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary stands strong behind Bill Shaheen

No, Obama won't bring up his coke use to challenge Hillary in the debate. I don't think Edwards will go there at all. Moderator might.

by souvarine 2007-12-13 06:43AM | 0 recs
the story ofcourse

is not Obama's coke but Hillary's campaign tactics as her poll #s collapse, it's good to see the media pretty much covered this right.

by nevadadem 2007-12-13 06:47AM | 0 recs
If the debate is run like the GOP debate

Then there will not be many fireworks

by dpANDREWS 2007-12-13 06:54AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary stands strong behind Bill Shaheen

This will be a civil debate if yesterday is any indication..

Obama should ignore it..unless challenged in the debate.

by hawkjt 2007-12-13 06:46AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary

Comparing this to Hurricane Katrina is the height of political cynicism.

by truthteller2007 2007-12-13 07:12AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary stands strong behind Bill Shaheen

The good thing is that this "issue" has now lost much of the political punch that it might have had.

by General Sherman 2007-12-13 07:17AM | 0 recs
he's only a pawn in their game

Color me skeptical that a high level surrogate would go this far without someone knowing about it.  Calculating you say, Calculating?  Those honesty and trustworthiness numbers don't come out of thin air.

by mboehm 2007-12-13 07:40AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary stands strong behind Bill Shaheen

No one said anything about 'crack dealing'- you are so dishonest, it's sad.  You could have chosen to write a legitimate diary about the issue that had some depth and intelligence to it- but no- you choose to twist things around, add lies to it, and make it completely invalid.

by reasonwarrior 2007-12-13 08:13AM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary stands strong behind Bill Shaheen

Crack dealing was absolutely part of what he said.  Really, you should read the quote before calling other people liars.

by Andy Katz 2007-12-13 10:47AM | 0 recs

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