E. Edwards accuses Clinton & Obama supporters of Cult of Personality

Elizabeth Edwards accuses the supporters of Senators Obama and Clinton of suffering from Cult of Personality.
What on earth does she think her supporters suffer from?
It's the Edwards supporters who are constantly coming out with trash talk to supporters of other candidates.
They put him on a pedestal and not see him as a politician and human.
What is up with the Edwards that they feel they can question the supporters of the other candidates intelligence.
From the AP Story:

Elizabeth Edwards said she's comfortable with the campaign to date, saying the huge crowds Clinton and Obama are drawing are caused by "the cult of personality which seems to have happened on both sides this time."

"Maybe this is the warm-up period where we allow ourselves a little fluff and frivolity," she said.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070412 /D8OF95MO0.html

Tags: 08 Campaign, clinton, Edwards, obama (all tags)

Comments

74 Comments

yeah crowds interested in seeing a candidate

is a bad thing now, I'll give her the benifit of the doubt,but it didn't come across well.

by nevadadem 2007-04-12 06:44PM | 0 recs
she never said supporters

she said the campaign and On CNN said essentially the same thing but put the onus on the media

by TarHeel 2007-04-13 04:04AM | 0 recs
Re: yeah crowds interested in seeing a candidate

First of all she never accused any candidate's supporters of being into the cult of personality more then substance. The way it came off to me is that she was addressing the media, which is fair game. The media has been more focused on the personality of the candidates rather then the substance of their campaigns. A perfect example is how the media couldn't stop talking about Hillary's southern accent, or Barack in a swimsuit, rather then talking about their plans for getting out of Iraq. The media has probably spent more time talking about the Geffen flame out more then they talked about the candidates' proposals.

by Sarah Lane 2007-04-13 03:43PM | 0 recs
supporters of Cult of Personality

Nice attempt at attacking Elizabeth Edwards.  I hope Obama follows your lead so we can see him share Imus' fate.

Her comments are true.  Obama is getting large crowds because he's a newcomer, a curiosity.  As people what he stands for, and few can answer.  They just like him.  They like his personality because they haven't had an opportunity to hear his policies.  Isn't that what you Obama supporters have been saying yourselves?  He hasn't released positions because he's introducing himself, etc.  Why do you want it both ways?

by Vox Populi 2007-04-12 06:45PM | 0 recs
Whatever

The more stuff of yours that I read, the more demented you really seem to be. I think you really believe this stuff, and that's just sad. You're no better than the Republicans who read Drudge or Red State...narrow-minded, petty and divisive to the end.

by mihan 2007-04-12 06:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Whatever

I really hope that you volunteer for your man.  

Because having you piss off voters, and ensure that you're candidate won't win is going to make it much cheaper for Sen Edwards to win in Iowa.

There are real people with real problems suffering out in the heart of America, and they are the ones that matter.  Not you, not I, not John Edwards, Barack Obama, or Hillary Clinton.

I'm talking about the single mothers trying to make it on $5.15 an hour and no health insurance.

The UAW guys and gals who saw their plant shipped overseas so that the bastards in management can buy a second home, and wonder whether they'll end up losing their pensions like their brothers and sisers at Delphi.

The state college kids working full time and taking a full load to.

And the folks who are 63 and want to retire but can't because they can't afford the health insurance.

Those are the ones that matter, and that's what 2008 should be about.

Not pontificating on the audacity or hope, or capitlizing on the latest tv scandal.

But finding ways to make their lives demonstrably better.

by ManfromMiddletown 2007-04-12 07:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Whatever


democrats, barack obama was drafted BY AMERICANS. that hasn't happened in a very long time.

Those americans(lawyers, computer scientists who set up websites to draft him) are not your average star-struck teen.

barack obama's courage on iraq and his vision for BIG problem solving politics resonates with americans of all backgrounds who get to know him.

no amount of "where's the beef" distortions will change that.

i invite you to learn more about other democrats so that next time you can criticize barack's record,not join n the chorus from detractors.

by pmb 2007-04-12 10:43PM | 0 recs
on CNN

she emphasized the media's coverage.. not supporters

by TarHeel 2007-04-13 04:42AM | 0 recs
Re: Whatever

Were you actually going to address the claim or simply make personal attacks against me?

Obama's supporters respond to claims that he's not got enough policies out there by saying he's still introducing himself (not his policies) to the voters.  If voters aren't being attracted to his policy positions, they must be attracted to... his personality.  How difficult is that?

by Vox Populi 2007-04-12 07:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Whatever


obama's ideas are pretty clear to me. obviously, he needs to beat the game against his detractors. and for that i leave it to his campaign and himself to go for it. it won't be a crowning for hillary or any body else and all criticisms are fair game.

it is also fair to say on that note that as far as i'm concerned US foreign policy will break or make the next president and I don't trust John Edward's judgment nor intelligence on that one.

if people think any other issue will determine '08 they're mistaken because guess what? iraq is only the tip of the iceberg on our fucked up US foreign policy.

so Go Barack, your judgment, prescience, quick mind, curiousity and life backgroud is needed to repair our civilian(not military) foreign policy.

all criticisms are fair.

by pmb 2007-04-12 07:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Whatever
obama's ideas are pretty clear to me.

Super. Mind explaining them to the rest of us? And with actual policy details, not "we must be hopefully audacious in our audacious hope" froth.
by McSnatherson 2007-04-12 08:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Whatever


on the key issue of smart decision making and vision and foresight, barack's 2002 speech against the war was encompassing of his leadership and courage(oops, when it matters, not when 70% of americans are for something).

every other issue, i refer you to his podcasts. the thousands of americans across the country who drafted obama had read something YOU, McSnatherson, hadn't had the privilege to read.

he's my senator and i consume his words and deeds in chicago everyday. so yeah,his ideas are pretty clear to me and i invite you to attend a townhall meeting with him.

most of his critics look through the glass of his youth, his impromptu run, and frankly the Draft that decided his run. so he'll be dodged about "specifics". does that help?

by pmb 2007-04-12 10:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Whatever

Did you provide even one of his ideas?  Or did I miss something?

by citizen53 2007-04-12 10:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Whatever


hehe. i know this guy.

i'll give you this one so that Edwards can sharpen his education ideas with this(yeah, i know citizen53 from kos)
idea no. 1:education: barack has made early childhood education a central issue. he started legislattin on this in chicago, made it an issue in his senate race, raised it high in his announcement speech. my senator is looking forward and embracing a digital age for rural and inner city america. he believes in america and our courage in moving forward and embracing the brave new digital world(which allows citizen53 to spew trash every five seconds on blogs).

poverty: unlike edwards barack attacks poverty with real action; he even started an NGO in chicago as a young lawyer on cheap public housing; community organising was about rebuilding a devastated inner city community. he believes in market place ideas, philanthropy and govt. accountability to take on poverty, and guess what he actually has credibility on it(just like the iraq and foreign policy debate)

two is good?

as i said, the problem is that unlike some candidates my senator believes in walking the walk . and by the way, all criticisms are fair, there'll be no coronation in 2008 or hillary or any other person.

but the "beef thing", its his youth, Draft. and he's not been running since 2004(like JE) or 2000(like HRC).

by pmb 2007-04-12 11:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Whatever

"market place ideas, philanthropy and govt. accountability" are liberal BS.  As John said, (to paraphrase) "And don't you ever think that helping the poor is charity."  The marketplace has made losers of these people, and they deserve better than the pity of philanthropists.

And I've never seen Barack say any of what you've said.

by jallen 2007-04-12 11:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Whatever

Mm, frothy. I asked for policy details. No offense, but I don't think "he believes in america [sic] and our courage in moving forward" qualifies. Give me less "believes in" and more "would do". Citing past legislation doesn't measure up either - I want to know what his ideas are in the here and now.

Oh, and you want to see "real action" on poverty? Look up this crazy thing called One Corps. And that's something JRE is doing right now.

Lastly - make up your mind, Obama supporters. Does he have political experience, or doesn't he? You can talk about how his actual time in politics (state senate et cetera) is longer than you think people give him credit for, and he therefore has the experience to run for president, or you can talk about how he supposedly hasn't been running since 2004 (out of curiosity, do you think David Axelrod was following him around with that video camera just for the cherished memories?) and therefore doesn't have enough experience to put out detailed policy proposals yet. But you can't do both.

by McSnatherson 2007-04-12 11:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Whatever

Here's the 'issues' page from Obamas website--

http://obama.senate.gov/issues/

Here's Edwards--

http://johnedwards.com/about/issues/

Notice how both pages talk alot about what the candidate "believes" while neither talks much about specifics? Other than Edwards health plan they are both smart enough to speak in terms of more generalized goals without getting bogged down in highly specific details when their possible Presidency is two years away.

A good President should have firm, well-defined goals, but must also maintain the flexibility to adapt to changing circumstances regarding the exact methadology by which these goals are achieved. Highly specific and detailed proposals are best left till after the election when the new President can negotiate with Congress and actually get them done.

by Mystylplx 2007-04-13 09:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Whatever

First, the relevant issues page for Obama is here:

http://origin.barackobama.com/issues/

Second, I really feel like you're drawing a false equivalence here. I've been to both candidates issues pages before, and when I popped by again to write this comment, I saw the same dichotomy I saw before. That dichotomy boils down to this: Edwards proposes solutions to societal and political problems, and lays out highly detailed, step-by-step pathways to take us there (his plans on health care, poverty, and energy/environment are the best examples of this so far). Obama, on the other hand, seems content to tinker around the margins with nice programs that don't really solve the underlying dysfunctions (his grab-bag of programs to deal with health care is a great example of this, and he doesn't even have a page for poverty issues, which just speaks volumes to me).

So, in summary, I just flat-out disagree with your characterization of Edwards and Obama as being equally gauzy on the issues. It just isn't supported by fact, so far as I can tell (and if I'm missing something, I honestly would like you to point it out to me).

Also, I don't buy your framing of the issuance of specifics. If you win on a program, then you've got a mandate to enact it. If you win on gauziness accoutered with a dusting of marginal programs, then you've got a mandate to...? Waiting until after the election to talk about what you want to do in office puts you in a vastly weaker position when doing that negotiating with Congress you mentioned.

Also also, thanks for the polite reply - I find political debates to be a lot of fun when they're not poisoned by personal accusations and the like.

by McSnatherson 2007-04-14 04:25AM | 0 recs
Re: Whatever

The whole essence of those supporting Obama is really an "us against the world" mentality.  Who's against you?  For what reason?

Beating the game?  He is part of the game.

by Peter from WI 2007-04-13 01:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Whatever

Ha ha ha. The original diarist accuses EDWARDS' supporters of this: "What is up with the Edwards [sic] that they feel they can question the supporters of the other candidates intelligence."

But who takes 0.6 seconds to post this to an Edwards Supporter: "The more stuff of yours that I read, the more demented you really seem to be. I think you really believe this stuff, and that's just sad. You're no better than the Republicans who read Drudge or Red State...narrow-minded, petty and divisive to the end"?? An Obama supporter.

Do you see the irony, mihan? Do you see that YOU are exhibiting narrow-mindedness, pettiness, and divisiveness with your IMMEDIATE turn to a personal attack on a supporter of another candidate?

There's this saying about glass houses and throwing stones. Look it up.  

by da0802 2007-04-12 08:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Whatever

I have to disagree with your ill-tempered comment.  You are attacking a person here.  Bad form.

The whole diary is an attack on Edwards supporters.  Rarely do I see Obama supporters talking issues.

In any event, yours was a poor comment.  

by littafi 2007-04-12 10:31PM | 0 recs
Re: supporters of Cult of Personality

Wrong again Vox, Wrong again... becoming a habit lately.

by yitbos96bb 2007-04-12 08:24PM | 0 recs
Re: supporters of Cult of Personality

As Elizabeth Proves, You are so wrong once again.  And GermanDeaniac, do be a lurker zeroing my comment, come out to engage.  

by yitbos96bb 2007-04-13 06:04AM | 0 recs
That's not her best statement ever, no

She's as awesome as people get, but I wish she wouldn't go there. People like her husband for his personality as well...its damn near what made him what he was in 2003-2004.

by mihan 2007-04-12 06:47PM | 0 recs
Re: That's not her best statement ever, no

I intend to vote for Edwards, and it has nothing at all to do with his personality.  It is his positions on the issues that I care about.  I think your comment supports what Elizabeth Edwards said about Obama supporters being culty.  They like his smile, and all of his kumbaya speeches.  They give him a pass on policy, just like Bush got a pass on policy.  "Duh, I'd like to drink a beer with that guy."  Obama supporters are interested in emotions, which Obama plays like a harp.

by dkmich 2007-04-12 07:59PM | 0 recs
Re: That's not her best statement ever, no

No, they are interested in rationalism, not emotions.  Edwards beats all the others on emotions.  But my perception is that supporters of Barack see emotional appeals as demagogic, and they support a more rational approach to politics, which just oozes out of his speeches, and is evident in their embrace of nonideological politics and bipartisanship.  It's clear that in this, Barack is more liberal, and John is more of a populist.

by jallen 2007-04-12 08:04PM | 0 recs
Re: That's not her best statement ever, no
they support a more rational approach to politics, which just oozes out of his speeches

...It's obvious that Obama is the "rational" candidate because of your gut emotional reaction to his speeches? Huh? I agree on the liberal/populist distinction (mostly, anyway), but this (and your similar identification of "nonideological politics and bipartisanship" as being more rational) just confuse me.
by McSnatherson 2007-04-12 08:16PM | 0 recs
Re: That's not her best statement ever, no
You misunderstood me.  I don't buy it, I think the idea of someone being nonideological is BS, but liberals see ideology as irrational, precisely because they are ideological liberals.
But I'm not sure I can explain it ore w/out starting a larger fight.
by jallen 2007-04-12 08:29PM | 0 recs
Re: That's not her best statement ever, no

Huh. Yeah, you seem to be using some confusing terminology there. The definition of "liberal" you appear to be using doesn't match up with either classical or modern liberalism - at least, not as I understand them. Don't want to start a thread hijack, though, so I won't press you for more of an explanation since you think it would provoke further discussion/argument.

by McSnatherson 2007-04-12 11:55PM | 0 recs
Re: That's not her best statement ever, no
My explanation of who I think would be swayed by what appeals is what might cause a fight.
I'm just saying that liberals (in general, anyone coming from a liberal ideological offshoot) tend to think that they are just rational, and other people who are swayed by ideological appeals are irrational.  This tends to bring about a liberal intellectual elitism.  They think they're smarter than those poor saps who keep voting against their interests.  They don't understand that everything is ideological.
by jallen 2007-04-13 12:26AM | 0 recs
Re: That's not her best statement ever, no

Obamas major support is from young/college people.  That's fine, but.........  

by dkmich 2007-04-13 04:59AM | 0 recs
Re: That's not her best statement ever, no

Lots and lots of young people are independents (btw, I'm 21).  In my experience, they think the political parties are lame, corrupt, and counterproductive.  So they buy right into Barack's nonideological bipartisanship BS.

by jallen 2007-04-13 05:07AM | 0 recs
Re: That's not her best statement ever, no

Nothing like a campaign to destroy the innocence of youth.

by ManfromMiddletown 2007-04-13 05:22AM | 0 recs
Re: That's not her best statement ever, no

Hey, that's not cool.  Campaigns are awesome, if it's for someone or something you believe in.  And they seem to believe in it, so that's cool.  More power to them.

by jallen 2007-04-13 05:37AM | 0 recs
Re: That's not her best statement ever, no

Jallen,

You probably don't have the life experience to appreciate this, but candidates are no angels, nor are elected representatives.  

The first thing that I was told when I began working at the state legislatures was to drop any idealized notion of who you are working for, the people you work for may be deeply flawed individuals.  And eventually you will have to come to accept the little things, and know when it crosses a line into the big things. They aren't above the law, and if you run into something improper it's your responsibility ot report it.

by ManfromMiddletown 2007-04-14 07:56AM | 0 recs
Re: That's not her best statement ever, no

You aren't the first young person to say that.   I have had several young people tell me that the more "in to" politics the kid is, the more likely they are to support Edwards.  The others are just having a party.  They think they are at an outdoor rock concert and brought a kegger.  Obama is the concerts rock star. Another problem I have is the principle of him charging money to get into his events.  He reminds me of Elmer Gantry with a guitar when he does this.

by dkmich 2007-04-16 01:57AM | 0 recs
Re: That's not her best statement ever, no

Its not a case of either/or with Edwards. You're kind of drawing a very narrow conclusion about why people like Obama that I think is outright false. But, all I can do is list my reasons, as they aren't all personality OR policy based.

1. Experience as a community organizer...shows an understanding of inner-city issues.

2. Lived overseas in a mixed-race setting...gives him an understanding of people outside his own world.

3. Record on veteran's issues...has shown a strong commitment to taking care of veterans, which is my pet issue since.

4. Experience in state government...has worked with and solved 'micro' problems. Will understand the limitations faced by state governments.

5. Sincerity. Doesn't kiss as much ass as the other candidates. Will not say anything he doesn't really believe.

6. Judgement. Opposed the Iraq war, even when it wasn't popular to do so.  

7. Ideas. Supports the things I care about. Is it detailed enough for everyone at this point, 7 months before the primaries? No. But for now, I like what I've heard.

You see what I mean? There are plenty of reasons to support someone.

Its a false dichotomy that has been offered here in terms of policy versus personality. We are told things like 'well, he has no policy specifics, so people just like his personality.' That is at once overly simplistic and completely ridiculous.

by mihan 2007-04-12 08:15PM | 0 recs
Re: That's not her best statement ever, no

See, I took her statements differently, I thought she meant that the media is more focused on the cult of personality thing rather then substance, and she's right on in that regard.

by Sarah Lane 2007-04-13 03:47PM | 0 recs
gloves off


let the contrast begin; mrs. edwards is ready for hardball. hillary is the hardball player. is obama ready for hardball? oh yeah, go ask about him in chicago.

Joe Biden: "I don't think John Edwards knows what the heck he's talking about".

by pmb 2007-04-12 07:15PM | 0 recs
Re: gloves off

And you think Joe Biden matters?

Here's one back at you.

The reaction of one of his challengers to this position showed that some Democrats will continue criticizing Senator Obama as failing to take a strong enough stance against the war.

"That's not a surprise, the degree to which people are surprised is the degree to which they've been sleeping," said Rep. Dennis Kucinich, who voted against authorizing the Iraq War in 2002 and is running for president for the second time. "He's voted to fund the war at least ten times, each time, it's like reauthorizing it all over again. If they keep voting to fund the war, it's not credible to say they are for peace."

Kucinich also questioned Obama's approach of proposing a timeline for withdrawal.

"Yeah, I have a timetable, it's called now," he quipped. "There's no reason why Democrats should give the president any money, they have the power to end the war now."

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Obama_take s_heat_for_remarks_on_0411.html

by littafi 2007-04-12 10:34PM | 0 recs
Re: gloves off

kucinich matters a lot. i'd agree with you on that one.

by pmb 2007-04-12 10:45PM | 0 recs
Re: E. Edwards accuses
Personally, I don't give a shit about John Edwards.  I just want a populist, and someone who isn't a neoliberal, and someone who is a partisan.  John just happens to be that candidate this cycle.  I like Barack, and Chris Dodd, and there's even a special place in my heart for Joe Biden, they just aren't populists.
Every other Edwards supporter on this site likes him because he is a populist or because of his positions.  Explain to me then, why we are part of a cult of personality.
by jallen 2007-04-12 07:22PM | 0 recs
Re: E. Edwards accuses

I think Elizabeth summed it up well when she said their decision to stay in the race was because "It isn't about John Edwards."  It's about the movement, it's about the ideas.

by Vox Populi 2007-04-12 07:33PM | 0 recs
No, I did not
I spoke earlier today to Mike Glover of the AP. He asked about the public interest in my cancer.  I said that in entertainment the cult of personality was fine and harmless but in politics it interferred with the real discussion of issues.  I said the campaigns were all going through this process of concentration on personality, and even when the process involved people saying nice things about me, I didn't think it was useful.  I never mentioned Senators Clinton or Obama at all directly or indirectly, and when I saw what Mike had written, I asked our press people to speak to him about correcting it.  
Just so you know.  
by ElizabethEdwards 2007-04-12 08:11PM | 0 recs
Re: No, I did not

Hello, Elizabeth!

I hope you're feeling well. Come to Connecticut! We're moving our primary to Feb. 5, too. John will have our support after what he did for Ned. He just needs to remind us! ;-)

by da0802 2007-04-12 08:16PM | 0 recs
Please know we're all pulling for you here

Thank you for commenting and clearing this up, Mrs. Edwards.

by mihan 2007-04-12 08:17PM | 0 recs
Thanks for clearing this up

...And heartily seconding the well-wishes.

by McSnatherson 2007-04-12 08:21PM | 0 recs
Re: No, I did not

Journalistic "Excellence" Strikes again... Thank you very much for commenting and clearing this up.  Also I hope you get well soon.

by yitbos96bb 2007-04-12 08:26PM | 0 recs
Re: No, I did not

General Question about politicos posting on MyDD... DO Chris, Jerome, Matt, et al. verify that it is actually the person posting... so Mrs. Edwards, Senator Feingold, and some of the many who have posted over the years.  I don't doubt that this is Mrs. Edwards, I'm just curious how those who run MyDD verify it is actually them and not just a random user (like myself) registering under their name.

by yitbos96bb 2007-04-12 08:29PM | 0 recs
Re: No, I did not

It is Elizabeth.  

by littafi 2007-04-12 10:42PM | 0 recs
Re: No, I did not

Wow, I see JUST HOW CLOSELY YOU ACTUALLY READ THE COMMENT.

I asked how the people at MyDD know it is the person.  I also said I believe it is her.  It was a general curiosity question.

by yitbos96bb 2007-04-13 06:06AM | 0 recs
Why the screaming?

Hey, I did not attack you, Yitbos.  What is with the bullshit attitude and the down rating?  

All I said is that it was her.  

Bunch of babies.  I think Elizabeth set you straight just fine.  

by littafi 2007-04-13 06:47AM | 0 recs
checking IDs

I know that Markos says he's got a way of verifying big-wigs on Big Orange - he claims that he can vouch w/ certainty that John Kerry, John Edwards, Russ Feingold, et al are actually the entities posting under those user names.

I would imagine it would be just as important to the MyDD staffers to take the extra step and verify. shrug

That said, I know that Elizabeth is a common visitor to progressive blogs, posting on dKos and DU, dropping comments in other places - and the tone taken in the above post sounds like her no-nonsense, cut-the-bull typical response. IMO there's no reason to suspect that the poster in question here is not indeed Elizabeth. ;-)

by machka 2007-04-13 06:35PM | 0 recs
Thanks Elizabeth

and nice to see you post here, I see you all over the net posting on things.

Tremendous respect for you and your husband.

by okamichan13 2007-04-12 09:07PM | 0 recs
Thanks for Stopping By

Elizabeth,

Thanks for stopping by and clearing this up!  

I think you are right.  All the campaigns are going through a curious time now wherein the mainstream media is reporting much more on the personalities, and much less on the huge challenges that we as a nation face, and what each of the candidates plans to do, in order to meet those challenges.  

So, for example, how does each candidate plan to meet the challenge of global warming?  Like Bush, with nothing?  Does each candidate have a plan for universal health care?  And yes, how, and when, will each of the candidates end the Iraq war?  Are there differences?  The public has no idea.  

Truly, there are so many substantive issues to report on, discuss and debate. The list goes on and on.  Yet, at this point, we are being treated to endless stories on personality, gotcha moments, and the fundraising race.  Is this any way to select a president? Is this any way to solve our problems?  Hmmm...let us work for change.  

Coaxing the mainstream media to report on the actual problems we face, and the plans to solve those problems, is not easy work.  As ever, you and John are doing good work.  :)

by Demo37 2007-04-12 09:54PM | 0 recs
Re: No, I did not

Thank you for commenting and clearing up the record.

We are all pulling for you.  

You help strengthen us in our resolve to do all we can do to elect your husband.  We are "back to work."  Keep fighting.  We're going to win.

by littafi 2007-04-12 10:40PM | 0 recs
Off Topic...as you have addressed the issue...

so I will just say hello and offer my best wishes.

You once commented on one of my diaries at DKos, and John actually answered a question I posed on the internet at his first town meeting in Iowa after he announced.  Aside from seeing him when he was on his book tour in Seattle (I took my kids, too), these are highlights for me that I will long remember, though it gets hard to remember with the years flying by.

Take care of yourself and, again, best wished to you and your family.

by citizen53 2007-04-12 11:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Off Topic...as you have addressed the issue...

Hey, did you go to the Elizabeth Edwards Saving Graces signing at UDUB? I was there! Wasn't it absolutely wonderful? My mother and I couldn't stop talking about how much fun we had all night long, it was such a great time!

by Sarah Lane 2007-04-13 03:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Off Topic...as you have addressed the issue...

Missed that, but seeing John with my kids was great.

by citizen53 2007-04-13 06:17PM | 0 recs
Re: No, I did not

Perhaps the diarist should update his post, now that he has new information directly from the source.

by MassEyesandEars 2007-04-13 04:09AM | 0 recs
Re: No, I did not

That's what I thought you meant when I saw you on Larry King. The media cares more about personal gaffes, flame wars, and that's what they report on. They seem to forget that candidates have ideas and policy proposals to help change this country. I wish they'd remember how important their journalistic duties are and stop reporting fluff and start reporting on what the candidate's are proposing. BTW, you were really great on King, I always enjoy listening to what you have to say!

by Sarah Lane 2007-04-13 03:51PM | 0 recs
This diary

kind of remind me of mine early this morning :).

Hopefully teaches us all a valuable lesson about trusting and questioning sources.

by okamichan13 2007-04-12 09:09PM | 0 recs
Re: This diary

Personally my main problem with the article (other than the fact that it is wrong) is that it is without substance.  

Please stick to important things when criticizing edwards.  And no this is not important.  Obama is trying for a new kind of politics that doesn't care about crap like this.

by sterra 2007-04-13 03:46AM | 0 recs
Please people ...read carefully

Elizabeth Edwards said she's comfortable with the campaign to date, saying the huge crowds Clinton and Obama are drawing are caused by "the cult of personality which seems to have happened on both sides this time."

This author writes this trying to fool readers into believing Elizabeth said this explicitly as an attack on Clinton and Obama. Notice how their names appear outside of quotations. Be more critical when reading articles.

by rbrianj 2007-04-13 12:12AM | 0 recs
Re: Please people ...read carefully

THe author is to blame, but he does mislead.  Eliabeth Edwards issued her statement above, I take her at her word, and that's cool.

by yitbos96bb 2007-04-13 06:08AM | 0 recs
pwned!

After seeing Elizabeth's comment above, I had to be the first to say it.  

vwcat, there's a 10 second lag before you can respawn.  

by Neil the Ethical Werewolf 2007-04-13 01:23AM | 0 recs
Diarist Punked by Elizabeth Edwards

Yes, she reads the blogs, and she is a blogger. And she tells the truth or sets the record straight.

by benny06 2007-04-13 05:10AM | 0 recs
Thanks for the good wishes

Always glad to collect those, whatever creates the opportunity.  Thanks.

by ElizabethEdwards 2007-04-13 05:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Thanks for the good wishes

There are many of us who have your back, Mrs. Edwards.

Thanks for taking the time to be here.

Here's Elizabeth's recent "Thank You" for the good wishes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAdYpo9Jg XE

by benny06 2007-04-13 05:51AM | 0 recs
Benny - you know what is so great all this.

Elizabeth has our back too.

Love the Edwards - they are great!  

by dk2 2007-04-13 10:52AM | 0 recs
Oh God not this guy again

vwcat, do you have anything better to do than travel the blogoshpere posting half-truths added to lies about John Edwards?  It's cool that you post at a lot of different places but you are so off base about nearly everything you say(including this interview that I just watched and you completely misrepresent - she NEVER said anything direct about any candidate or their supporters) regarding  John Edwards.  

What she said was not harsh or directed at anyone's supporters but she has a very good point.

Most Hillary backers assume that they owe her thier vote because of who her husband is.  They forget that this is not the Clintonista Party t is the Democratic Party.  They think "Bill president...Bill Democrat...me Democrat...Hillary Bill's wife...Me Support Hillary!!!!"

And Obama's staff has talked to Hotline(I know you know this because I have seen you there whining about Edwards being better positioned ,now at least, than your two favorites) about how they want to run an ENTIRELY PERSONALITY DRIVEN CAMPAIGN.

With all that is going on in our country Obama's fix is his COOL PERSONALITY that has the abilityto magically build a wonderful "consensus" and we all will dance together and I will ride on a spotted unicorn with Trent Lott and Tom Delay and vwcat will tell the truth about John Edwards for once (we're in fantasy land so it's possible there)and Obama and Clinton will only be on TV half the time instead of all the time and the Leprachaun from the movies will bound Karl Rove and dance around him singing "One more trick and I'll chop off your dick!" and it will be AWESOME!

by Progressive Populist 4 Edwards 2007-04-13 06:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Oh God not this guy again

"Most Hillary backers assume that they owe her thier vote because of who her husband is.  They forget that this is not the Clintonista Party t is the Democratic Party.  They think "Bill president...Bill Democrat...me Democrat...Hillary Bill's wife...Me Support Hillary!!!!"

Absolute garbage.

by georgep 2007-04-13 11:31AM | 0 recs
Re: E. Edwards accuses

"Maybe this is the warm-up period where we allow ourselves a little fluff and frivolity."

Is this NOT a direct quote?  And, if it is, how can one interpret it in any other way but dismissive of the other candidates?  I appreciate that Elizabeth Edwards comes on here (if it is really her,) but quotes are quotes, and the one listed above is not focused on (instead the talk is about the "Cult of Personality" remark) when indeed talking "fluff and frivolity" does come across as if the other candidates are fluffy lightweights in comparison to Edwards, an opinion not everybody shares.  

by georgep 2007-04-13 11:29AM | 0 recs
Re: E. Edwards accuses Clinton

LARRY KING: You said earlier today, Elizabeth that the 2008 presidential campaign so far has fallen into a cult of personality. What do you mean?

EDWARDS: Well, you know, you've been the victim of this some too. I think with -- in Hollywood, and in the entertainment industry, it's easy for people to fall into this idea of you know I'm interested in every move that Britney Spears makes, you know I want to know about Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt. And it's really kind of harmless. But when you're talking about politics and people become obsessed with these little details, it detracts from the real business of politics, the serious business of politics. And I think it's all right in the early stages, but we need to keep pressing. The people in the campaigns need to keep pressing the conversation towards the serious issues.
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When Elizabeth says "the people in the campaigns" she is clearly inferring that the other Dem candidates, ie: Hillary and Obama have not, thus far, tackled the issues.  Gee, maybe Elizabeth should pay attention instead of making such shallow and unkind assumptions about the other candidates.  This is typical of John and Elizabeth - they attack by inference and then they claim they were misquoted or that their words were taken out of context, when they are called on it.

Maybe this is why Edwards hasn't been able to get his poll numbers out of third place.  People are not stupid and this kind of underhandedness is not lost on them.

I support Hillary and Elizabeth doesn't get to define me or to suggest I am swayed by cult of personality.  

 

by samueldem 2007-04-19 09:43PM | 0 recs

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