Does Obama Disrespect Women?

Last night's debate between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama had another subtle but significant moment showing Obama's lack of respect for Hillary. As the audience cheered her and rose to its feet, he looked off to the side and seemed to say "Are we done?" A moment later, he repeated this.

During the debate before this one, as Hillary was speaking, he kept raising his hand in the air, like a schoolboy who wants to make sure that the teacher notices him too. He could not let Hillary just finish her thought without inserting himself in the moment.

And of course, we have "You're likeable enough, Hillary" and other slights that lead me to wonder if Obama would be doing this if his opponent were a man. Is Obama's famous "healthy ego" also a sexist ego hiding in Oprah clothes?

Tags: Hillary, obama, sexism (all tags)

Comments

98 Comments

Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

No he is not. Period and end of discussion.

Stop with this mud-throwing, you are grasping at straws and it shows. And yes, Hillary is no racist either.

by marcotom 2008-02-22 11:36AM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

I am not throwing mud but I see an immaturity in Obama and his attitude toward Hillary. I wonder if anyone has seen any other instances of Obama's attitude toward women (other than treating them like groupies).

by VegMom 2008-02-22 11:46AM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

Crap comment from a first time poster. There is absolutely no factual information to back up such an outlandish and ridiculous claim.

Grow up.

by John in Chicago 2008-02-22 11:47AM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

Where do you get all your information from? I'm really wondering, because you seem to be so detached from reality, it hurts. I'm not even going to try to repute all your points, since you don't seem to be the person who can actually listen to people.

But what I have to say to you is this: you are doing your candidate a disservice by posting crap like this. Same applies to some Obama supporters who can't control their hatred for Clinton, by the way. You are not going to convince anybody with your delusional views and on a more personal level, you are pushing people away from supporting your candidate because they don't want to associate with your delusions - again, the same applies to some Obama supporters.

by marcotom 2008-02-22 12:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

Harsh, but ultimately fair assessment.

by Montague 2008-02-22 12:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

God you people are sad.

by BlueinColorado 2008-02-22 01:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

Yeah CLEARLY... deeply..

You keep using those words.

I do not think you know what they mean.

by zonk 2008-02-22 01:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

are turning everything on it's head right now? I mean, yes, there exist mud-throwing Obama supporters. Right now, however, you are confronted with a mud-throwing Clinton supporter. Is this really the best excuse you can come up with?

by marcotom 2008-02-22 01:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

< Obama supporters are flame throwers

Yeah, Obama supporters are full of incoherent rage that leads them to spew crazy fantasies based on absolutely nothing.

He's clearly a guy who has issues with women - he stikes me as being fairly primitive and his wife is, well, a lot like Nancy Reagan. I'm prediciting she will be one of the least popular first ladies in

Obama is a thug on a lot of levels - or maybe I should simply say con artist. He's a Harvard graduate, who is the son of a Harvard graduate who is married to Harvard graduate. He has tremendous sense of entitlement and he clearly doesn't like women.

<iyou do not win any support for your [candidate] this way!</i>

Well, you're right on that.

by BlueinColorado 2008-02-22 02:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEYfloPIZ vU

by Shazone 2008-02-22 02:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

The URL contained a malformed video ID.

Heh. Kinda symbolic....

by BlueinColorado 2008-02-22 05:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

And your point is?

Oh noes!!! He's looking at her?!?!? Call teh PC police!!!

Wow, that proves everything. LMAO

by John in Chicago 2008-02-22 11:52AM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?
All that picture shows is that he's smug and condescending. We already knew that.
by sricki 2008-02-22 11:55AM | 0 recs
The Stare.

by NeuvoLiberal 2008-02-22 11:57AM | 0 recs
Re: The Stare.

Uh. Obviously taht pictures shows that not only does Hillary want to eat your pet beagle puppy, but she also has repressed hatred for people who were born in Hawaii...

Can't you see it?? You're obviously not paying attention if you don't...

by John in Chicago 2008-02-22 11:59AM | 0 recs
Re: The Stare.

She must be racist.

by Nathan Empsall 2008-02-22 12:03PM | 0 recs
Sorry to bust your 'mouth off anything' tactic

But, it's a real picture (from a debate in 7/2007) which can be found sourced on this Chicago Tribune blog post by Glenn Thrush (Photo by Stan Honda AFP/Getty Images)

by NeuvoLiberal 2008-02-22 12:42PM | 0 recs
He believes that women need....

help making their pro-choice decision...she should consults with her doctor, her family and her clergy.

That's not progressive/Democratic pro-choice.  That interjects outsiders into a very private and personal decision.  

IF the women want and can (some family members are abusers) talk to anyone else SHE CHOOSES, that fine, but it must not be mandated by outsiders.

by Shazone 2008-02-22 12:04PM | 0 recs
Re: He believes that women need....

Is this comment a joke?  That is a line of argument that NARAL and Planned Parenthood support.  You know, cause it underscores that the decision is personal and should be made by the individual, in conjunction with whatever their support system is.

Good god, if you think that means someone's not pro-choice you're seriously out there.

by HSTruman 2008-02-22 12:14PM | 0 recs
Re: He believes that women need....

It's seriously hard to even know where to begin in responding to your post.  First, the present votes were in fact part of a strategy developed by pro-choice groups.  Second, he's always been outspokenly pro-choice, so your charge doesn't even make sense.  Mark Pryor ducking abortion votes?  Sure.  Someone who has been vocally pro-choice their entire career?  Not so much.

As to Judges, you just sound stupid.  His mentor, going back to law school, is Larry Tribe.  Some of his biggest supporters include such vaunted legal "conservatives" such as Abner Mikva and Larry Lessig.  Those are the kind of Judges he would appoint my friend.  To say otherwise is ridiculous.  BOTH our candidates are 100% pro-choice.  Thems the facts.

by HSTruman 2008-02-22 12:33PM | 0 recs
Re: He believes that women need....

Are you incredibly dishonest, or incredibly nuts? Or both?

He has 100% ratings from NARAL and Planned Parenthood? Did they forget to ask to borrow your magic decoder ring? Or they just aren't smart like you? Was his vote against late term ("partial birth") abortions just a clever ruse to outwit people?

Just in case anyone reading cares about facts:

In 1997, Obama voted against SB 230, which would have turned doctors into felons by banning so-called partial-birth abortion, & against a 2000 bill banning state funding. Although these bills included an exception to save the life of the mother, they didn't include anything about abortions necessary to protect the health of the mother. The legislation defined a fetus as a person, & could have criminalized virtually all abortion.

Gee. Looks like the water hen is lying. Or crazy. We should accept insanity as a defense. Especially after reading few posts.

by BlueinColorado 2008-02-22 05:16PM | 0 recs
Re: He believes that women need....

I agree with you, just to be clear.

by HSTruman 2008-02-25 10:09AM | 0 recs
When he was asked if he supported....

a women's right to choose, he never said yes (this was in a debate), instead he answered that the women, doctor, family and clergy should make the decision.

As I said, it's fine to counsel someone that way, but not to legislate that way....he opens the door for laws that mandate those kinds of consultations...and that is NOT pro-choice...IMHO

by Shazone 2008-02-22 12:25PM | 0 recs
Re: When he was asked if he supported....

You are parsing statements to a ridiculous extent.  Kate Michelman, the former president of NARAL, is supporting the guy.  Yet you think he's going to mandate meeting with clergy members?  

Good lord, don't vote for him -- that's fine.  But this kind of distortion is just silly.  He's unabashedly pro-choice.  

by HSTruman 2008-02-22 12:38PM | 0 recs
Was he unabashedly against hand guns...

before he is now for handguns?

by Shazone 2008-02-22 12:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Was he unabashedly against hand guns...

You should really read the news stories you're quoting.  Again, like Larry Tribe he thinks the Second Amendment provides an individual right which -- here's the key part -- can be restricted through reasonable gun regulations.  

by HSTruman 2008-02-22 01:16PM | 0 recs
Did he say the word &quot;yes&quot;?

If not, then he's not unabashedly pro-choice.  Only the unabashedly pro-choice would have no fear of answering the question with a clear "yes."

by Montague 2008-02-22 12:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Did he say the word &quot;yes&quot;?

Right.  Unless he phrased it the way you wanted, in this particular debate, then he's not pro-choice.  Yep, that makes sense.  

by HSTruman 2008-02-22 01:18PM | 0 recs
Can you read? I said &quot;unabashedly&quot;

Do you know what an adverb is?

by Montague 2008-02-22 03:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Can you read? I said &quot;unabashedly&quot;

proof? Or are we just making stuff up?

by marcotom 2008-02-22 04:22PM | 0 recs
Re: He believes that women need....

Go find the bill where he proposed legally mandating women to consult clergy before an abortion, or else drop this pathetic, dishonest canard.

by BlueinColorado 2008-02-22 05:17PM | 0 recs
Right after

you admit that the Clintons are not racist or race baiters.

by linc 2008-02-22 12:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Right after

have you even read my post?

by marcotom 2008-02-22 04:23PM | 0 recs
oh jesus

is that all you got? he raised his hand slightly when she insulted him?

get ready for TX, its gonna be a hard morning on the 5th.

by omar little 2008-02-22 11:37AM | 0 recs
There's no reason for such an inflammatory title.

Anyway, I saw "the look," and he clearly just sort of seemed uncomfortable and wasn't sure what to do.  

by telephasic 2008-02-22 11:37AM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

Wow. Now THAT'S reaching. Take a look in the mirror. Do you see the cloned right winger you've become? It's not too late to step back into the reality based community, ya know...

by John in Chicago 2008-02-22 11:42AM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

I don't view it as a gender issue. I believe Obama does not respect the Clintons, period.

by Liberty 2008-02-22 11:43AM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

Of ourse this diary was created by someone who never ever posted a comment on MyDD, nor a diary until this one.

Likely an RNC plant sent to create division in the party...

by John in Chicago 2008-02-22 11:43AM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

I had to register to this site (been visiting it for  months now), just to reply to this rather inflamatory diary.

I wouldn't be surprised if this were indeed a RNC plant.

But if the OP is REALLY serious, you're looking waaaaaaaaay too into things. Ask Michele Obama: Barack isn't a racist.

by LonghornSam 2008-02-22 11:46AM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

I NEVER suggested Obama was a racist, but a sexist. You know, someone who doesn't respect women as fellow human beings, thinks women are really only "good for one thing," etc.

by VegMom 2008-02-22 11:50AM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

Sorry, I meant sexist.

Have you seen ANY other evidence that Obama disrespects women?  

by LonghornSam 2008-02-22 11:52AM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

Well, going by your rationale, it would have made just as much sense to accuse him of being a racist as it did to accuse him of being a misogynist based on a hand gesture.

Oh, our stooopid discourse. Ridiculous!

by John in Chicago 2008-02-22 11:53AM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

LOL, "Many"?? Thanks for linking a design made by a Company that makes non-PC TShirts targeted for college students:

http://www.tshirthell.com/hell.shtml

Look at the designs.

Hardly values shared by Obama or nearly all of his supporters.

by LonghornSam 2008-02-22 12:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

Ok, you made me laugh. Thanks.

by VegMom 2008-02-22 12:17PM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

That's true, but mainly because I have a life away from the computer,  John, and I also think bloggers get so angry and combative sometimes. But I'm really just interested in intelligent discourse.

by VegMom 2008-02-22 11:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

And your idea of "intelligent discourse" consists of accusing Obama of being a misogynist based on hand gestures.

Please, look up the meaning of "intelligent discourse" and report back.

by John in Chicago 2008-02-22 11:50AM | 0 recs
Re: that;s delusonal

Huh? Are you trying to make some kind of point? If so, please elaborate.

by John in Chicago 2008-02-22 11:48AM | 0 recs
No...but he kicks puppies

by Jeffrey Feldman 2008-02-22 11:45AM | 0 recs
Re: No...but he kicks puppies

I KNEW IT!

by VegMom 2008-02-22 11:48AM | 0 recs
The ovation was for the debate

Last night's debate between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama had another subtle but significant moment showing Obama's lack of respect for Hillary.

"As the audience cheered her and rose to its feet"

Audience applauded her seemingly conciliatory ending line. But, she was earlier booed for her sleazy attack on Obama withe Xerox line.

Then they applauded both and rose to their feet for a good debate (besides Hillary Clinton's Xerox stink-bomb), in honor of both the candidates, when prompted to do so by the stage manager.

"During the debate before this one, as Hillary was speaking, he kept raising his hand in the air, like a schoolboy who wants to make sure that the teacher notices him too. He could not let Hillary just finish her thought without inserting himself in the moment."

Onle once, he raised twice when Hillary was on an endless response.

"Is Obama's famous "healthy ego" also a sexist ego hiding in Oprah clothes?"

That's a disgusting racist and sexist crap you spewed. You should be ashamed of yourself.

by NeuvoLiberal 2008-02-22 11:49AM | 0 recs
Re: The ovation was for the debate

OK, again, no racism was suggested at all. So stop it.

Also, it is hilarious to suggest I'm a Republican. That's ridiculous.
Really. Calm down.

Why are you so invested in Obama? Do you think that the world will magically change if he (or anyone else) is elected? Don't you see that we have so many problems that realistically, whoever wins the election is going to have a horrible first year just cleaning up the Bush mess?

Take a deep breath, because you are putting a lot of energy into something over which you have very little control.

by VegMom 2008-02-22 11:56AM | 0 recs
Re: The ovation was for the debate

This, from the person who registered for the sole purpose of accusing Sen Obama of being a sexist because he..... wait for it.... raised his hand to be called on.

Classic RNC Obama-basher recipe:

1) attack Obama viciously

2) When called on it, claim that Obama supporters are equally vicious

3) When confronted with the facts that refute both claims respond that Obama cant win in November

4) When confronted with polls that show Obama does better in GE matchups than Clinton, say something to the affect of "Well, thats no way to win a supporter over, you guys are so RUUUDE!!!"

by John in Chicago 2008-02-22 12:05PM | 0 recs
Re: The ovation was for the debate

you nailed it!

by marcotom 2008-02-22 12:16PM | 0 recs
Re: The ovation was for the debate

yup

by John in Chicago 2008-02-24 05:47PM | 0 recs
Hang in there VegMom....

some commenters are slightly emotional today.

by Shazone 2008-02-22 12:09PM | 0 recs
Why are you so invested in Obama?

Because he has, at this moment, at least a 50/50 shot at being the Democratic nominee, and idiots on this site keep tearing him down with a bunch of horseshit smears.

As for "calling you a Republican", I don't know about you, but I do suspect half the "pro-Clinton" trolls on this site are, in fact, Republicans making trouble for their own amusement. I'm picturing Dwight Schrute/David Bossie types, a box of Scooter Pies by the keyboard, a Thomas Kincaide-esque portrait of Reagan on the wall, a well-thumbed copy of Atlas Shrugged, and lots of applications for various local law-enforcement agencies. That will be denied for reasons of questionable psychological stability.

by BlueinColorado 2008-02-22 05:53PM | 0 recs
Re: The ovation was for the debate
Okay, I think this diary is pretty ridiculous. But just out of curiosity, what was racist about that specific statement? The Oprah reference? It hardly made enough sense to be racist/sexist.
by sricki 2008-02-22 12:02PM | 0 recs
Re: The ovation was for the debate

Hold on now - she's wrong to label all attacks and psuedo-attacks against Hillary as sexist just because Hillary is a woman, but you're doing the same thing in accusing her of racism. She can attack Obama for reasons other than his skin just as others can attack HRC for reasons other than her gender.

by Nathan Empsall 2008-02-22 12:06PM | 0 recs
That was vile remark the diarist

made whether you think it's racist and/or sexist.

This place is replete with such trashing of Obama. Mind boggling.

by NeuvoLiberal 2008-02-22 12:47PM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

Holy crap, did you see Obama's brow furrow slightly at 22:17 into the debate?! Clearly he's a closet sexist.

by animated 2008-02-22 11:50AM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

lol

by John in Chicago 2008-02-22 11:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

When Hillary went on the "I am honored to be here with Barack Obama", Obama put out his hand to meet hers and shaked it heartly. It was genuine respect between the two.

by LonghornSam 2008-02-22 11:54AM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

Yes, but did you notice the way his pinkie twitched just before he shook her hand? Clearly, that is a sign of repressed hatred for women. And puppies.

by John in Chicago 2008-02-22 11:57AM | 0 recs
I saw him lift an eyebrow at her once.

Clearly a misogynist.

by Mystylplx 2008-02-22 11:55AM | 0 recs
I don't know if he does

it out of personal bias or to draw votes away from her, but he does use sexist language to attack her.

Most recent was this one.
""I understand that Senator Clinton, periodically when she's feeling down, launches attacks as a way of trying to boost her appeal""
http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2 008/02/periodically-speaking.html

flame away, but it is just the kind of sexist bs women deal with at work.

by votermom 2008-02-22 11:58AM | 0 recs
Re: I don't know if he does

okay, can you explain to me (Sorry for my maleness) what is sexist in this quote? What would be the use of hidden sexism if males don't get it anyways, I ask you!

by marcotom 2008-02-22 12:19PM | 0 recs
Re: I don't know if he does

you see, "periodically" is supposed to be a covert reference to women having periods.  as in, about once a month, she has her period, and attacks obama.  however, as she is sixty years old, biologically speaking, she most likely went through menopause already.

by Doug Tuttle 2008-02-22 12:40PM | 0 recs
Re: I don't know if he does

I'm sorry, but this whole thing strikes me as insanely funny. Maybe I'm too much of a maths person, but periodically means well, it just means what it means. Some people are really grasping at straws now and I find that sad.

We have two great candidates and may the better win.

by marcotom 2008-02-22 12:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Truly truly truly I say unto you

i don't believe that, just repeating what i've heard about this comment.  some have said "periodically" refers to her menstral cycle, though i find that quite stupid.  that said, i fail to see why you need to attack me as i did, i was merely repeating some information i had heard, and even if i did believe it, you could have disagreed with me without being so insulting.  the internet has truley removed any sembelnece of civility mankind had left.

by Doug Tuttle 2008-02-22 05:50PM | 0 recs
Re: I don't know if he does

What's sexist about that?  You seem to be implying that ANY criticism of Hillary is sexist simply because she's a woman.

by TheUnknown285 2008-02-22 12:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

So you have no proof of your attempted smear?  Shocker there.

by Socks The Cat 2008-02-22 12:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

Maybe VegMom would like to explain how Hillary's statement that Obama is "irresponsible" isn't racist, since it plays into some of the oldest stereotypes against black men?

by rayspace 2008-02-22 12:17PM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

Please don't make it about racism. Try to take the high ground and maybe some more reality-based Clinton supporters will see what is going on here. We need them in November.

by marcotom 2008-02-22 12:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

Well, now that's interesting. How did this suddenly become a discussion about racism? I am genuinely interested in this. Is there any way Hillary could "attack" him without being called a racist? Or anyone else for that matter?

by VegMom 2008-02-22 12:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

You've got to be kidding, racist?  

by Sleepless in Virginia 2008-02-22 12:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

Hillary's remark is racist in the same way that you Hillary supporters say that any negative remark that Obama makes is sexist.  I'm tired of seeing Hillary supporters whine about every criticism that Obama makes about her, and then claim that she is the best candidate to take the shots the Republicans will levy at her.  

Obama is by no means a sexist, but if the point of this exchange is that language can be subject to misinterpretation, then it's a two-way street.

by rayspace 2008-02-25 05:57AM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?
God yes, Hillary Clinton is obviously the most racist politician since... BILL Clinton, who thinks competent, successful African Americans are fairy tales. And Hillary calling Obama irresponsible? Clearly, that's code for, "Go get me my noose, boy."

Give me a break.

My god, some of the people on this site are completely out of their minds. Total alarmists.

by sricki 2008-02-22 03:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Silly Season is Demeaning

Silly Season is indeed very demeaning to people using silly attacks to score cheap political points. In that regard, I completely agree. We should be more sensible towards people using silly attacks to score cheap political points. They are humans too.

by marcotom 2008-02-22 12:20PM | 0 recs
A new game

Guess the people who recommend a diary.

I guessed Undies Sided and Kevin.

I was wrong on the Kevin guess.
But here is the list:
Undies Sided
bluestate
shazone

Just shows you the kind of people who have come to MYDD lately. Three people actually recommended one of the most laughable diaries on MYDD.

by Pravin 2008-02-22 12:21PM | 0 recs
Re: A new game

In your opinion.  The diary's fine.  Maybe some just can't deal with the question.

by Sleepless in Virginia 2008-02-22 12:29PM | 0 recs
Re: A new game

Is Clinton a racist? Now deal with this question! It's a stupid question, isn't it? Makes you want to punch me for even asking it in a public forum, doesn't it?

My answer to the question, by the way is no, she is obviously not a racist.

by marcotom 2008-02-22 12:43PM | 0 recs
Re: but

Don't let facts come into your way.

by marcotom 2008-02-22 01:54PM | 0 recs
Re: When have you read a stupider diary?

I think both sides have their share of childish, idiot partisans, however all the anti-Clinton "whitewater this, Vince Foster that" misogynist trolls found themselves troll-rated and banned even from blogs that are primarily Obama hubs (like dailykos).

However, the opposite of those people, the race-baiting "Obama is a Muslim, Michelle hates America" idiots found homes on Taylor Marsh and mydd, and instead of being trollrated or banned...they recommend each others diaries and comments with impunity.

by Skaje 2008-02-22 01:30PM | 0 recs
Fail

by Skaje 2008-02-22 12:22PM | 0 recs
epic fail

by omar little 2008-02-22 12:31PM | 0 recs
Today all over DKos?

by Montague 2008-02-22 12:43PM | 0 recs
Re: Today all over DKos?

DKOS has become a very sane place lately, compared to MyDD. It's an Obama vs McCain, Dems vs Repubs place.

The primary wars are over at DKOS, for now at least, but hopefully for this season.

by marcotom 2008-02-22 12:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Today all over DKos?

There's a button between tab and shift on the left side of your keyboard.  Press it once before you resume typing.

by Skaje 2008-02-22 01:42PM | 0 recs
Is the race over? Gee, I hadn't realized that

by Montague 2008-02-22 03:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Today all over DKos?

You are angry, that's true.

It seems though that most women are just fine with Obama and even more than half of them vote for him as happened in Wisconsin.

I'm not going to ask for forgiveness for some other Obama supporter who might have hurt your feelings. That's childish. There are supporters on each side that I want nothing to do with.

by marcotom 2008-02-22 04:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

NO

Next topic

by puma 2008-02-22 12:49PM | 0 recs
usually written by...

dem dem
holden
seymour

the triad of anger.

by omar little 2008-02-22 01:04PM | 0 recs
oh cmon bud

i knew you were around.

don't get all serious now.

by omar little 2008-02-22 03:05PM | 0 recs
I cannot wait

until Obama wins the nomination and some of the nutjobs that have crawled out of the woodwork return to the underside of whatever rock they emerged from.

by zonk 2008-02-22 01:27PM | 0 recs
Nothing like a video ...

I've already posted this a couple of times. Seems I will have to do so many times more in the coming days/weeks. So here goes:

VIDEO

I hope very much that answers your question, vegmom.

Peace everyone!

by Freedom 2008-02-22 02:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Nothing like a video ...

Thanks for the video link.

I seem to have started some kind of food fight here. It's so easy to say hateful things to other people online, isn't it?

I have a lot of women friends who are Obama supporters. They stood in the rain on primary day, holding up their banners and signs. Some of them are anti-war activists and awesome people.
I respect their decision about who to support. I just disagree with that decision.

Obama may be every wonderful thing everyone claims for him, but it would be nice to have some proof of that beyond oratory.

He reminds me of George Bush in a way - popular guy, friendly manner, no real accomplishments, thin resume.

I think it is becoming a missed opportunity for women, that we finally had a credible woman candidate for president but didn't fully support her.

Fortunately, my state voted for Hillary. I'm quite proud of that.

by VegMom 2008-02-23 06:41AM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

Obama is as much a sexist as Hillary is a racist......you figure it out.  

by venavena 2008-02-22 02:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Does Obama Disrespect Women?

Women should "rule?" WTF?  My whackjob buzzer just went off..

by PositiveFreedom 2008-02-22 05:47PM | 0 recs

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