Time to Wright Obama off

[Update: Wright has stepped down from his post on Obama's campaign. It's too little, too late. Obama has known the pastor for 20 years and that he named him at all to his team strikes at the very core of his whole 'judgment' argument. The reversing of the decision to keep Wright on made earlier in the day by Team Obama only reinforces their weakness and their non-understanding of the seriousness of the words of Rev. Wright.]

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There's no escaping this one.

No blame to be placed on his Democratic rival, no discussions among Anderson Cooper, Gloria Borger and other 360 guests about the triviality of the subject matter which is going to make things go away.

And thus, the chickens have come home to roost for the Illinois Senator. Some people may be able to be hookwinked and bamboozled about what someone did or did not say, but two things stand above all others in our American culture:

Money and video.

By now, you have likely seen some footage of the man who dashed the Oval Office hopes of Senator Obama. You've probably heard the fire and brimstone of the pastor whose Trumpet Magazine gave Louis Farrakhan -- a figure which it said "truly epitomized greatness" -- it's Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award. This is the same Jeremiah Wright who accompanied Farrakhan on a visit to meet with Libyan strongman Colonel Muammar Khadafi in 1984, or around the same time when many in Europe and the Americas were coming to believe that Khadafi was one the world's primary terrorist financial backers.

Yes, this Jeremiah Wright is part of Obama's official campaign. And the campaign said today that there are no plans for Wright to step-down from his role with Obama's team. He has been Obama's pastor for approximately 20 years. He married Michelle and Barack Obama, and baptized their children. (...)

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"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes three-strike laws and wants them to sing God Bless America.

"No! No No!

"God damn America ... for killing innocent people.

"God damn America for threatening citizens as less than humans.

"God damn America as long as she tries to act like she is God and supreme."

                   - An excerpt from an April, 2003 Wright sermon

In the backdrop Wright sways at 1/2 normal speed, while his words crackle through the speaker. His ties to Obama recounted in large type as the viewer watches. Ominous music plays in the background, faintly.

Cut to John McCain, with wife Cindy on a grassy hill in front of a large flagpole with Old Glory ruffling magnificently in the wind.

"I'm John McCain, and I approved this message."

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"We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki. And we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye," Wright said.

"We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because of stuff we have done overseas is now brought back into our own backyard. America is chickens coming home to roost."

                       - Pastor Wright in a sermon shortly after 9/11

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There are some problematic long-term associations which can be managed. Witness Obama's 17 year association with political fixer Tony Rezko. Though Rezko is currently standing trial and the Senator was mentioned, euphemistically, in the indictment documents, Rezko's corruption has yet to really impact Obama's presidential bid.

Other affiliations, however, will not withstand the scrutiny which a presidential bid necessarily entails.

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"Barack knows what it means living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich white people," Wright said. "Hillary would never know that.

"Hillary ain't never been called a ni***r. Hillary has never had a people defined as a non-person."

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There are differences between someone you bought property with and who funded your campaign and someone who you refer to as your spiritual adviser, someone whose words touched you enough that they led you to name your book "The Audacity of Hope" based on what your pastor had said.

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"Hillary is married to Bill, and Bill has been good to us. No he ain't! Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty."

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You have discussed throughout this campaign season, Senator Obama, the power of words. That words have great import.

I agree with you.

Deeds also mean a great deal. Deeds such as the giving of $22,500 to Jeremiah Wright's church in 2006. Deeds such as naming Wright part of your official campaign. Deeds such as utilizing another one of Wright's flock -- Oprah Winfrey -- as an important part of your campaign strategy.

As I mentioned at the beginning of this essay, Americans respond to two things:

Money and video.

Your money has gone to support Reverend Wright and his church over the years.

And every person around the world can see Wright's hateful, bigoted speech for him- and herself. This is the man and the church which you subsidized, Senator. This is the man who married you and your (just recently proud of her country as an adult) wife. This is the man who baptized your children, who you chose as your spiritual adviser, who you made part of your official campaign and said today you had no plans on removing from his position.

There is no way out of this for us Democrats, not if we want to win back the White House which has been sullied by Dubya over the past 8 years. We all know the ads that will come, the pounding we will take not only at the top but throughout the length of the ticket should we nominate you. We will be called haters of our own country, non-patriotic, persons who blame 9/11 on America.

It is over, Senator Obama. Please do the right thing and walk away so that our Party has some hope in November. You have chosen poorly in the past with both Rezko and Wright, but the time still exists for you to make the correct and honorable decision now, for the good of both our Party and our nation.

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Some of the articles used as references for this diary:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2008/01/14/AR2008011402083_ pf.html
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/14/ obamas-spiritual-adviser-questioned-us-r ole-in-spread-of-hiv-sept-11-attacks/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_al- Gaddafi
Chi. Trib: Obama's donations, etc

Tags: 2008 elections, Barack Obama, Jeremiah Wright, John McCain (all tags)

Comments

59 Comments

Re: Time to Wright Obama off

He already stepped down. Oops! So much righteous anger wasted.

And what makes you possibly think that the Republicans will be able to use this against him again, after he's already responded and Wright is gone and the matter is settled? Would you get offended if the Republican party brought up Ferarro's comments to Clinton a month down the road - or would you say she's been vetted?

Keep begging Obama to walk away from the lead. Your rational makes no sense and your anger is disingenuous - you've been spouting for him to step down for the good of America for months on Hillaryis44.org, that bastion of sanity.

by upstate girl 2008-03-14 05:17PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

I think the light in your sky is to bright

by bradydundee 2008-03-14 06:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

 I take it we can cancel your ticket to Hillary`s victory party.
by gunner 2008-03-14 07:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

For Penn. I take it, or pehaps for her Senate seat in 2012, because I don't see hat else she's going to win.

by Socraticsilence 2008-03-14 07:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

This is what happens when you campaign has been one of deception .

I don't know how he managed to hoodwink the public this long.

Maybe he should be asked why he comes down south to use code words like bambozzle , hoodwink , run amok in light of this stuff.

Of Course I know what is intentions but I think someone should ask him.

He has used race in the most divisive way in this campaign and he should be called on it.

His own chickens have come home to roost.
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I don't know if this would end his campaign , but i wonder how many people would have it at the back of their minds if that is the type of guy they want for president.  

by lori 2008-03-14 05:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off
I am just surprised, really really surprised, that this has happened now.
Months ago, we saw these tapes of Wright, as well as his speech equating Zionism with racism.
It is unbelievable to me that it took this long for this to get out into thye public. But thank goodness.
by rrs11215 2008-03-14 05:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

Oh god, you did not just bring Hitler into the conversation. Are you serious?

Bypass Hillaryis44, go directly to Stormfront.

by upstate girl 2008-03-14 06:27PM | 0 recs
hehehhe

by kindthoughts 2008-03-14 06:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

You're not trying to make a point about Cohen, you're trying to make a point that someone that thinks like Cohen is right, because obviously the only conclusion anyone can bring from this backs up Cohen's opinion. And that's patently wrong.

by upstate girl 2008-03-14 07:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

That's just stunningly fucked up.

by Brillobreaks 2008-03-14 06:59PM | 0 recs
Maybe the media was to busy

fawning over Obama to actually watch all of the tapes. After SNL made them look like a bunch of fools/tools, a few of them might have decided to look a little deeper.

by georgiapeach 2008-03-15 06:15AM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

Universal,  I agree with everything you said that Wright is a divisive person.  And Obama association with him casts serious doubt as to what Obama really believe it.

However, I don't think it's appropriate to call any candidate to drop out of the race.  That decision remains with the candidate alone.

Personally,  I would like to see Hillary win the nomination fair and square.  Let voters decide.  Have all the votes counted and see who is the winner.   Obama trowing the towel won't help legitimized Hillary's win.

The only chance to heal this party is to have the nomination end with transparent result.

by JoeySky18 2008-03-14 05:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

I thought you were against canidates stepping down and preferred that the "will of the people" decide things.

by Socraticsilence 2008-03-14 06:23PM | 0 recs
You are one trick pony

no matter what happens you call for Obama to step down.

Wins Super Tuesday...he got to step down
Wins 11 contests in the row...he got to step down
Wins Texas...he got to step down.
Wins Wyoiming, Mississippi...he got to step down

Sneeze...got to step down

by kindthoughts 2008-03-14 06:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

Somehow I suspect this will continue to be a story on mydd long after the rightwing blogs have moved on.

by Skaje 2008-03-14 05:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

I never thought it would be Wright that would do in Obama. It doesn't matter that he fired him when he the press found out about him. Obama knowingly kept the guy on his staff and had a long term relationship with the guy just like Rezko. What is it about Obama that he continually makes bad choices?

I'm wondering if Obama is in the audience during one of those sermons? I bet someone is looking at all the videos right now or perhaps has already done so.

by Ga6thDem 2008-03-14 05:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

And you're right. He needs to quit the primary. He and his associations are starting to go beyond toxic to him and are now becoming toxic to the party.

by Ga6thDem 2008-03-14 05:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

Universal, why do you persist in this?

You know this issue isn't going to convince anyone who isn't already convinced that Obama is a Bad man.

Clinton's, and yours by extension, entire strategy at this point is to trash Obama as much as possible.  There's nothing new to add about Hillary; just mud to be slung.

You ought to be disgusted with yourself.  But I suspect that you're not.

by Cycloptichorn 2008-03-14 05:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

Okay, so: give me a detailed answer on why this shows he has bad judgment.  And wouldn't be fit to run the country.

This preacher has said some stupid and un-politically correct things; but are you alleging that he's a bad person, who does bad things, and somehow someone is tarnished by being around him?

by Cycloptichorn 2008-03-14 05:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

Obama addressed that in his huffpost blog today.

Unless you want to call Obama an outright liar, Wright never made statements like these while Obama was in attendance.

Obama has said publicly, on Fox, that had he heard those comments in person he would have LEFT THE CHURCH. He has denounced the comments as strongly as possible. What more do you want?

All you want is for Hillary Clinton to be elected, at all costs. And since going to lose, you are desperate for something to make the supers want to override the will of the people.

Sadly, this issue is NOT a campaign ender for Obama.

You myDD Clintonites scare me.

Wake up and realize that this is a DEMOCRAT you are attacking.

by smoothmedia 2008-03-14 06:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

Universal isn't a democrat, she's a Hillaryis44 girl. All Hillary, all the time, and damn the party or anyone else that gets in the way.

by upstate girl 2008-03-14 07:04PM | 0 recs
I'm not worried in the least.

Hillary's got her own problems.

by Hesiod Theogeny 2008-03-14 05:29PM | 0 recs
Re: I'm not worried in the least.

ABC News has removed the story. Not sure where it came from but it is gone.

by americanincanada 2008-03-14 05:51PM | 0 recs
Re: I'm not worried in the least.

It's not gone, the link just had an extra space in it.  http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4 218509&page=1

by Brillobreaks 2008-03-14 07:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

By next week this story will be ancient history and there will be some other scandal for the media to focus on.  

Obama's not saying these things, someone else is and that it was the video will show.

Also, just like some people saw truth in Ferraro's statement, some people will see the truth in Wright's.

If he handles himself well in this controversy it may actually improve his standings.    

The video will resurface in some smear ads in October but, it won't have much of an impact.  This happened to late to impact the nominating process and too early to impact the general election.  

I really do wonder about the timing. As best as I can tell, none of the statements were made last week.  Why has this become an issue now?   Did it have anything to do with Ferraro.  Is the media attempting to appear balanced for its coverage of Ferraro's statements?
 

by ruskin 2008-03-14 05:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

Sorry but it's horribly toxic and will reappear even if it disappears for a while. It's another thing that the GOP can use to define Obama because he's failed to define himself. He is toast and the whole party is toast if he's the nominee.

by Ga6thDem 2008-03-14 05:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

Given that the guy's been around for years, and Obama already discussed his pastor at the beginning of his campaign, you'd think in this internet age someone would have found something!

...if there was something to find, anyway.

Nice try.

by upstate girl 2008-03-14 05:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

I'll repeat a question I asked elsewhere, can anyone point to an example where an episode like this, involving the behavior by some one other than the candidate, ended a campaign?

Gary Hart and Howard Dean were done in by their own behavior.  

I just don't think this story is going to get the coverage others on this site do.  

Especially if Bear Stearns goes tits up next week or China starts blasting away in Tibet, this story just won't have room to breathe.  Also, this story came after the two democratic candidates have been bickering for months over statements made by their surrogates.  This is just going to be part of the mix.

by ruskin 2008-03-14 06:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

Quit with the posturing pseudo patriotism. Its the last refuge of cowards and dishonest people. I'm disgusted you're using that kind of slander in an appeal to some knee jerk nationalism that this country has been fully sick of for years.

by upstate girl 2008-03-14 06:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

I used to think they were just a slightly off Hillary supporter, but I'm pretty sure that Universal is a right wing troll at this point.  No way in hell does a Democrat actually use the kind of terms and framing evident in this diary.

by Brillobreaks 2008-03-14 06:47PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

"Quit with the posturing pseudo patriotism. Its the last refuge of cowards and dishonest people."

You are talking about a tremendous section of the Amerocan electorate, who are not either cowards or dishonest, and will object mightily to being regarded as irrelevant. They vote, and won't be voting for a your candidate, a democrat who disdains patriotism the way they express it.

by 07rescue 2008-03-14 09:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

Ya, the GOP has far less ammo on Clinton.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

by smoothmedia 2008-03-14 06:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

I just realized the irony here.

Universal is asking that Obama step down out of the race - before the primary has finished.

What about all the voters that deserve to have their votes count? That's why Hillary's still in the race!

You've been so, so emphatic that Clinton stay in the race, that people that tell her to drop out are sexist, that the media is against her when they discuss how far behind she is, that she can't possibly retake the lead - but yet Obama is supposed to drop out at the drop of a hat?

You honestly have such a blatant double standard that when Clinton is attacked on her positions, that its vetting her for a Republican run, and yet when Obama is attacked - via you and a lot of Clinton supporters, collecting data, cheering on the latest Rezko whatever - each time he should drop out of the race for the good of the Party?

Good god. Get back to Hillaryis44. That's your real political party.

by upstate girl 2008-03-14 05:47PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

I agree.  Nobody should be called out of the race.  It's the candidate's decision.

by JoeySky18 2008-03-14 05:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Remember It's Big World Out There

This story is already fading

Go right now to CNN.com, Reuters.com, Bloomberg.com.

CNN and Reuters are running stories about how Obama is denouncing Wright - that's the second stage of the story, the next stage is oblivion.  Bloomberg is not even covering the story - and it supposedly broke today!  

Check your local newspaper tomorrow - you may see a story.  Check it a week from now, see if there's any mention.

Yes, this story will give Republicans ammunition for attack ads and that's unfortunate, but I don't think it will have a significant impact on the Democratic nomination process or the general election.

I've not given it a great deal of thought but, I can't think of a story like this, one that involved the conduct of someone other than the candidate, having the dramatic impact that you are are predicting.  Can you think of one?  If you think of past candidate destroying events (Gary "Monkey Business" Hart, Howard "the Scream" Dean) the conduct involved actions by the candidate.  

by ruskin 2008-03-14 05:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Remember It's Big World Out There

"This story is already fading"

Every Obama supporter should beware that this story is fading. The GOP want to save it for Late October, when they will flood the airwaves with it, and it will be completely unanswerable.

They will bring out one after another of these videos, day after day, and Obama will be inundated with questions every day about each of the Wright statements, forced to defend himself against them, totally lose control over the news cycle, and lose any opportunity to get his positive message out to voters. The Clinton voters, many of whom ascribe to the brand of "lapel pin" patriotism Obama decries, will stay home.

Voila, President McCain.

Only by tedious overexposure could a political deficit of this magnitude be defused. Burying it will not work, except to get the nomination, and irrevocably consign the Democratic Party to defeat in November. All those "Obama coattails" will turn into an anchor, dragging Democratic contenders under all throughout the nation.

Think about it.

by 07rescue 2008-03-14 09:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off
Well, here's something good that's come out of all this: I bet this has put to rest the whole "OMG OBAMA'S A MUSLIM!" mindset.
by sricki 2008-03-14 06:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

i hate to say this but most of the BO is a muslin are made by totally uninformed right wingers and my guess is they will not get it either way.

These kind of folks want to beleive what they want so i think that will continue.

david

by giusd 2008-03-14 07:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

Please remove the link oto vdare, I would honestly be more confortable with a lik to freerepublic than VDARE, they are legitimately a hate site, and I believe are listed as such by the SPLC.

by Socraticsilence 2008-03-14 06:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

Its a white natalist site named for the first white baby born in America, Virginia Dare.

by Socraticsilence 2008-03-14 06:58PM | 0 recs
you know changing the diary

without the word UPDATE and the reference to what the update is, is really quite dishonest.

by kindthoughts 2008-03-14 07:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

Thanks, I han't heard about it too much about it either until it was basically used as a primary source in the immigration debate.

by Socraticsilence 2008-03-14 07:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

So where'd you get the link from in the first place?  Just random googling?  You should maybe pay attention to where the info you're using for these hit pieces comes from...  Cause at the very least it calls into question it's accuracy.

by Brillobreaks 2008-03-14 07:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

And in the course of your random googling, you didn't think it maybe wise to check exactly who you were linking to?  

I mean, seriously... VDARE is hate site.  The SPLC calls it one.  It's not only a vigorous opponent of immigration from non-white countries, but a big player in spreading bullshit about race and IQ, and other eugenics stuff.  They quite famously used Katrina to argue that Blacks were the intellectual and cultural inferiors of Whites.

And now they're going after Obama, spreading the shit about Wright, about Rezko, about Obama's church, Farrakhan, they've got posts up about the IRS investigation, the Muslim Kenyan 'family' and... pretty much everything else you and several of the other more prominent diarists here have written about.  Same links and all.  Now I'm more than willing to accept your word that your linking to them was all a horrible accident.  But seriously, it doesn't give you at least some pause?  Knowing that you're writing the same attacks on Obama as a bunch of Neo-Nazis are?

by Brillobreaks 2008-03-14 07:55PM | 0 recs
oh really

so you are saying that you did not know about the sites racist views but you post it up.

hmmm, I should judge you by your associations.

I guess if you post a link to a racist site to back up your diary you must be a racist.

Yes? No?

by kindthoughts 2008-03-14 07:01PM | 0 recs
Re: oh really

I'm not surprised she didn't realize it was a hate site. She saw what she wanted to read and that was good enough for her.

by upstate girl 2008-03-14 07:05PM | 0 recs
Re: oh really

Not all that surprising really considering some of the other right wing sources used for these hit pieces.  This may be the first genuine white supremacist site I've seen used though.  

Accidents?  Sure, I'll buy that it's an accident.  But even if it's an accident, and Universal isn't a regular reader of the site... what are you doing linking to some random website you don't know anything about for?

by Brillobreaks 2008-03-14 07:13PM | 0 recs
I think the Pat Buchanan bit yesterday

really takes the cake.

Pat is a rabid Clinton hater. yet he got quoted and pronounced right.

by kindthoughts 2008-03-14 10:25PM | 0 recs
Further Hillarity...

Ok, so I just checked VDARE's front page out, something I haven't done in months (was writing about immigration).  They have a story about Obama and Wright up on the front page, it's titled "Obama's Radical Background: More Questions Only VDARE.COM Will Ask".  It's basically the exact same issues (with identical links) being brought up by numerous posters here over the course of the last week.

Seriously, you could repost it under Susanhu's name, and no one would bat an eye.  Hell, it would probably get recced here.

I don't know whether to laugh, or to cry.

by Brillobreaks 2008-03-14 07:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Further Hillarity...

If you could get away with posting it in a diary here and follow it with a link to the site plus a link to a source explaining why its a hate site, I'd say put an Anti-Obama title on it and let them rec it without reading it.

by upstate girl 2008-03-14 07:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Further Hillarity...

I'd rather write an article laying out exactly where some of these talking points and information is coming from...  I mean, for god's sake, Universal just posted a link to a site run by a bunch of Neo-Nazis.  

These smears on Obama have been percolating around the far right wing for a year now, being researched and spread and they're now making it out into the mainstream media, and progressive blogs.

by Brillobreaks 2008-03-14 07:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Further Hillarity...

I think that's an excellent idea. If you don't get to it I'll do so after I get back from canvassing this weekend.

by upstate girl 2008-03-14 08:06PM | 0 recs
Yes, Even More Hillarity...

The writer of that VDARE article, and the founder of the Human Biodiversity Institute (I shit you not... a Human Eugenics think tank.) has a blog.  It's basically all the Rezko/Wright/Farrakhan related stuff currently on the diary list here at MyDD, including a post chastising the MSM on being so slow to pick up on the stuff about Wright that he's been writing about for a year.  

How's it feel to basically be spewing Neo-Nazi talking points Universal?

by Brillobreaks 2008-03-14 07:34PM | 0 recs
He will never go

There is no way Obama will step down. Here is a man who went for power politics from the beginning. He did choose to connect himself to some of the worst thugs in American politics for the sake of power. He is embroiled in the Chicago machine and is connected to a variety of shady dealings, mostly orchestrated by Mayor Daley and Tony Rezko. Obama is not stepping down.

He is not wont to ever see beyond his personal ambitions of power and connections. Obama will have to be defeated the old fashioned way.

He is young and obviously power hungry. Perhaps he can come back in 2016, perhaps not.

by DemAC 2008-03-14 07:10PM | 0 recs
yeah thanks for baseless

allegations.

I think you lost your way dude...you really need to breathe.

by kindthoughts 2008-03-14 10:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off
Toast! Toast, I say!
by Becky G 2008-03-14 07:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off
Well, I can see you're all huffy about it but it won't in any way affect this primary. Just watch. By the time the PA primary comes around no one will remember it. Hillary will win it because she's expected to, then Obama will win everything else. I wish there was some way I could bet you some big money on that.
by Becky G 2008-03-14 07:26PM | 0 recs
You are alsways doom and gloom

There are thousands of Obama supporters who call, canvass, donate and volunteer.

These are people who stood up and put their money where their mouth is.

I am assuming you do the same fro Hillary. Or is it just diaries for you?

by kindthoughts 2008-03-14 10:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Time to Wright Obama off

They just don't get how damaging Wright is. This isn't going away. You have to feel like Cassandra at times like these.

by grlpatriot 2008-03-14 11:26PM | 0 recs

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