He means that it's pure fantasy to think that we will remove two sitting Presidents in two years.  That's not a congressional proceeding, it's a putsch.

Fair enough.

I think "Because we can" was exactly the rationale the Republicans used to impeach Clinton.  That may have lost them the Presidency (before the Supreme Court got it back for them).

I agree that Bush is impeachable, but that doesn't make it a good political idea.

And really, what says "interested in revenge, not progress" like impeaching someone two weeks before he leaves office?  That will never happen.

Yes yes, good point--and might I add, what if 169% supported impeachment?  Then what would your position be?

You might want to check that spelling of "comparisons."  That's probably another thing that really makes you mad.

Just to reiterate, being able to impeach the President is not the same as being able to remove him from office.  I mention this only because a number of peple here seem to be wondering whether getting Bush would enough, or if we could get the next in line, too.  Guys, it will never, ever come to that point.

Of course it is.  What you said was nonsense.  No political decision is based solely on what one believes should ideally happen.  The actual political consequences have to come into play, or nothing gets done.

Um, NealB, you are aware that impeachment isn't the same as conviction, right?  The Republicans in '98 had the votes to impeach, but not to convict.  Much good it did them.

Plus, what you're describing--Congress resolving to take out the entire executive branch by fiat--sounds like a pretty Bushistic abuse of power to me.

Right, but Ron, the whole point is that his threat amounted to a rejection of party democracy.  You're saying that voters need to take responsibility, but you seem to think that Lieberman's actions were pre-determined; Lieberman is the one blaming Democrats for an action which was always entirely up to him.

If Lieberman had threatened, not to run as an independent, but to blow up the George Washington Bridge if he lost, and he lost, and he blew up the bridge, no one would think that Connecticut voters had any culpability in that.