Shalikashvili: Listen to Evidence on Gay Soldiers

During the neo-conservative ascendancy, the effects of which we are still struggling to shake off, we were consistently confronted by its apostles with appeals to "empiricism,""facts,""objectivity," and "reality." It was a temporarily successful strategy, until more and more Americans began to see through this polemic and face the failures wrought by these invocations of spurious evidence.  This past April, in response to indications that President Obama would seek repeal of the Don't Ask Don't Tell "compromise," four retired flag officers argued in the Washington Post that this repeal would harm morale and troop levels in the US Armed Forces (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2009/04/14/AR2009041402704. html).  Yet once again a conservative position has been presented with fear-mongering masquerading as fact.  In today's edition of the same paper, retired Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General John Shalikashvili answers the call.  Not only does refute them by pointing out their lack of evidence for this position, he suggests two responsible courses of action: that we look at other western military organizations where gays and lesbians are allowed to serve openly, and that we actually listen to gay soldiers and those who have served with them.

excerpts after the jump...  

Where his fellow retired commanders invoked "tradition" and the fear of losing crucial personnel, Shalikashvili points out the weakness of both arguments:

Tradition is a critical military value, and the armed forces have a long-standing tradition of banning gay men and lesbians. Equally important military traditions, however, are learning and adapting -- and my colleagues made claims as if no new knowledge has been acquired over past decades, during which time Israel and Britain joined more than 20 other nations to allow openly gay individuals to serve without overall problems. In Britain and Canada, polls had indicated that thousands would resign if gays were allowed to serve, but when the bans were lifted, almost no one left. The British Defense Ministry conducted several assessments of the policy change and called it a "solid achievement."

AS his former colleagues dismissed the applicability of examples drawn from other societies, Shalikashvili invokes domestic precedents and studies as well.

The U.S. military itself has had successful experiences. Enforcement of the ban was suspended without problems during the Persian Gulf War, and there were no reports of angry departures. A majority of U.S. service members say they know or believe that someone in their unit is gay, according to a 2006 Zogby International poll, and most of those who know of openly gay peers report no detriment to morale or cohesion. A recent study co-authored by Laura Miller of Rand Corp. found no correlation between a unit's readiness and whether known gays serve in it.

But Shalikashvili is not content to let this disagreement pass without questioning the responsibility of those who opposed lifting the ban so publicly.  Suggesting that ultimate lifting of the DADT policy is inevitable, he points out the importance of leadership to ensure a successful transition:

Every general officer knows that mixed signals undermine leadership. Indeed, studies show that when organizations implement controversial change, signals from the top must be clear. For such a large group of retired senior officers to oppose the inevitable could cause the very disruptions they predict.

In his compelling peroration, he points out that not only is there evidence that potential loss of personnel is mere hysteria lacking in precedent, Shalikashvili points out those whose service we have already lost and those that we might gain when we lift this ban:

Under current policy, we have lost more than 13,000 of those people, such as the Arabic language speaker featured in the new film "Ask Not." In addition, researchers at the University of California at Los Angeles have found that nearly 4,000 people leave voluntarily each year because of the ban, and that more than 40,000 recruits might join if the ban is ended.

Shalikashvili's arguments are not unique, but the source is significant.  He frames his essay in the tone of a responsible commander whose authority to address these issues in unparalleled.  The entire piece may be read at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2009/06/18/AR2009061803497. html.

Let's flood the Washington Post with messages of support and salutes for this leader who truly cares about basing policy on evidence and facts.

Tags: DADT, gay rights, military policy (all tags)

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Nice diary

DADT is one of the most riduculous policies a nation could adopt. A nation (US) can not state that we are facing threats greater than any time prior and at the same time limit those who are willing to serve to the benefit of our nation.

This is from a few years back, but it is still relevent and still tragic.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/military/ jan-june05/gays_4-13.html

KWAME HOLMAN: Army Sergeant Robert Stout has nearly recovered from wounds he received last May when his convoy was attacked outside Samara, Iraq.
SGT. ROBERT STOUT: We were driving down a road, and a man popped out behind the building. We were the rear vehicle. He popped out behind a building with a rocket-propelled grenade and shot my vehicle. I was currently up in the gun hatch manning a 50-caliber machine gun. Other members of my squad were inside the vehicle. All five of us were injured in one way or another.

KWAME HOLMAN: But unlike some wounded soldiers, sergeant stout is not spending his rest-and-recuperation period being congratulated.

GROUP: Left, right, left, hey!

KWAME HOLMAN: He faces the possibility of being forced out of the army for violating the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy, which requires soldiers to remain silent about their homosexuality. Sergeant Stout spoke to this program and the Associated Press last week.

The rest of the article is a good read. I think the best way to approach this particular topic with those who agree with DADT is with human stories, not stats and facts.

I presented a similar article as this one to a supporter of DADT and it really hit home. I'm not claiming it changed his view, but it did cause pause and think. The story not only made him feel 'small', but also connected with him emotionally. I do not think 'intellectual' arguments would have...

by oc 2009-06-19 03:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Nice diary

it is extremely difficult for me to believe that this crap was legislated into law - it literally boggles the mind.

by canadian gal 2009-06-19 05:27PM | 0 recs
Excellent Diary

Did anyone catch this as well:

http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/askno t/

Great riveting material.

In some ways, DADT gets under my skin even more then DOMA does.

I don't know how long I can give Obama on this one, I get we have to focus on Health Care, but after that?  

How many gay soldiers have already given the ultimate sacrifice for this country?

The sad things is, we don't even know.

We make such a big fuss, and rightly so, about our miltary, but in this case, how many soliders who gave it all are we keeping from the light?

by WashStateBlue 2009-06-19 03:45PM | 0 recs
Perfectly stated

How many gay soldiers have already given the ultimate sacrifice for this country?

The sad things is, we don't even know.

So well put, it's worth repeating...

How many gay soldiers have already given the ultimate sacrifice for this country?

The sad things is, we don't even know.

by oc 2009-06-19 03:49PM | 0 recs
Great Point

I think he said something similar a few years back I'm glad to see that he keeps pressing the issue. I think its telling when you consider how many people don't enlist because of the policy or rather leave voluntarily because of the policy. Its absolutely ridiculous that these soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines can serve in Iraq but yet be told essentially that they are not good enough to serve openly. That these same people will be a disruption to their unit. I suppose I am biased though.  

by political22 2009-06-19 07:37PM | 0 recs

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