Iraq: the Dionne fallacy
by skeptic06, Tue Feb 06, 2007 at 08:35:46 AM EST
Matt links Yglesias who links Dionne.
Their argument: the fact that GOP senators are wetting themselves over it is a sure sign that the nonbinding Iraq res is important.
This, I think, is a counter to the Feingoldists who say, A nonbinding res is nothing, only defunding is worth a red cent.
Which is much the same as Cheney and Cornyn's argument (as quoted by Dionne).
My view (piece earlier today has background, but doesn't address the issue directly - hence this) is that of course the nonbinding res is important politically: because the headlines would be Congress Comes Out Against Bush on Iraq - and Sixpack wouldn't get to the small print.
But - the bull point which cannot be too often repeated is this: there aren't 60 votes for the nonbinding res. Not Warner-Levin, at least, or any other res which opposes the surge.
The only text for which there are 60 votes is Gregg - which comes out against defunding.
As I've mentioned once or twice before, there are some votes lose because of parliamentary shenanigans. And other votes that lose because their aren't enough votes.
Warner-Levin is one of those.
Needless to say - Fiery Feingold's conference call bellyaching notwithstanding - there are fewer votes still for defunding the surge, even fewer for complete withdrawal.
Zeleny in a Times blog fingers GOP scaredy-cat Class II senators (up for re-election in 08).
Fact is, brown pants have a phenomenon observed on both sides of the aisle on Iraq: the fact that, after days of vivisection, we still don't have a res supported by most Dems which can secure 60 votes cannot, I think, be laid entirely at the doors of their opponents.
(Bear in mind the cosponsor lists for Biden and Warner's S Con Res 2 and 4 respectively: while actual whip counts are lacking, I can't believe that, if Reid was able to vote his entire delegation, that, plus the GOP cosponsors, plus the three or four GOP needed, couldn't have been found.
But we know that Feingold and Dodd skipped the reservation to one side, Lieberman to the other. Who else?)