I'll donate via Road to 60 when you clean out the trash. [Update x2]

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Tonight, these five new accounts've TR'ed every single one of my comments from the past month; piling troll-ratings onto old comments is only the latest in a series of flaunting this site's rules by Republican trolls.  Not only have trolls like Rankles, Aliveandkickin, and Engels not been banned, they even have their rec/ratings access intact.  You want political contributions in MyDD's name?  Make the site's banner worth donating under again.  It's long past time to take out the trash.

I'm a proud, wallet-opening Democrat who gives as much as I can as often as I can.  MyDD needs to decide which audience it's really more interested in maintaining -- Democratic contributors like me, or Obama-bashers and Republicans.  Don't ask me to open up my wallet in your name until you start actively undoing this site's devolution into a playground for trolls.

Update: Jerome responds below:

It's easy to throw tomatoes from the crowd. The ratings system is broken, it'll get replaced, don't waste your time with it.

I look forward to that, and thank ct for his work in implementing it when it happens. But this is more about your recent willingness to let trolls run rampant on this site at the expense of your long-time Democratic readership. If you were even half as "duly diligent" in dealing with today's post-primary trolls as you were in dealing with what you considered primary season's overzealous Obama supporters, things'd be quite different here.

You'd also do well to remember that the "tomato-throwing crowd" are the same folks you're asking to lend you fundraising credibility via an ActBlue donation in MyDD's name. Four, three, two years -- even a year ago -- I'dve contributed to a MyDD-branded fundraising effort without a second thought. Something's clearly changed, and you need to clean up your brand if you're wanting to use it for fundraising purposes.

Update 2: Jerome stopped in to mojo this comment:

Grow up and get over it Please. Of all things. This diary beats PUMA for being silly, pointless and vain.

Tags: meta, MyDD (all tags)

Comments

241 Comments

Well said.

I'm hoping that the reason for the silence from the admins over the trolling issue is that they are about to implement a new system or something.  Otherwise, it seems like they've just adopted a Road Warrior approach and don't mind seeing users game the system and wreak havoc if it increases clicks.  Who knows?

by thatpurplestuff 2008-06-30 09:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Well said.

or they see that the people complaining now are silent abusers themselves.

I'll exchange  500 TR's on my account for clean up :). Then again you are amongst them who so kindly dished out silent TR's to me too. :P

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 09:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Well said.

I'm not complaining about troll ratings, I'm complaining about trolls in general and the lack of punishment for people that use numerous accounts to derail conversation here.  Why do you feel the need to defend yourself when people are talking about the removal of trolls who use multiple accounts?

Nevermind, don't answer that.  Seriously.  Don't.

by thatpurplestuff 2008-06-30 09:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Well said.

because the dairy is one I happen to actually read. And assumed you did so too and replied to its point of contention.  

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 09:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Well said.

So I, one of the most TR abused users here, gets called out as a TR abuser.

YOu want to know why I still have the ability to rec and rate?

Because I am not a TR abuser.  

You might want to turn that spotlight on my stalkers , ie spunkmeyer and sricki, who TR everything I post.

Hypocrite.

by rankles 2008-06-30 11:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Well said.

I still have my ability to rec & rate, too. I also rarely get TRed, even back in the days in which people who liked Obama were a minority. You know why? Because I try not to be a jerk most of the time.

by vcalzone 2008-07-01 04:43AM | 0 recs
Re: Well said.

SPUNK, d0 you want tell everyone about your 2 additional handles AKA sockpuppets here?
calcetines
calcetines2

View Spunkmeyers 1st ever post on mydd AND look at the title on it http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/6/11/9 3155/1000/11#11

NOW view his two handles (titles) he used to pump up to TU and HR rate TR all my comments and see the same unique title back.

calcetines
calcetines2  - View his 2nd handle pumping up the 1st to TU ( check the title out)http://www.mydd.com/user/calcetines2/com ments

DON'T FORGET to pat your fellow team member Spunk for being busted for a sockpuppet troll now.

by aliveandkickin 2008-07-01 12:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Well said.

Know what? You've got a point.

#1, we need to remove the ability to Mojo/HR/TR from new users. You get it after you've been mojod a certain number of times from users who've earned it. Trusted users need to have earned that ttust.

#2, we need to be able to see which users signed on from the same IP address. We don't need to see what that address is, but we could at least have better odds of seeing the sockpuppets for who they are. For instance, you have DEFINITELY identified one. On the other hand, I'm certain that you and Rankles are two different people.

by vcalzone 2008-07-01 04:53AM | 0 recs
Quit spamming. nt

by Shem 2008-07-01 08:00AM | 0 recs
Re: Well said.

It's easy to throw tomatoes from the crowd. The ratings system is broken, it'll get replaced, don't waste your time with it.

Jerome while you 'may' loose some to threats of not contributing ( not sure they would in any case). You gain many and dare say deeper pocket supporters like I, who would make up for every 10 that cry wolf in that crowd. . As witnessed by the donation I made..

by aliveandkickin 2008-07-01 11:01AM | 0 recs
Re: Well said.

LOL in diary about TR abuse I get a TR abuse. Now thats classic.

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 09:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Well said.

I mojo'd you.

by rankles 2008-06-30 11:37PM | 0 recs
LOL!!!!!!!

Anyways, on a diary about troll rate abuse aliveandkickin troll rates every single comment I made and his sockpuppet (love how he talks to himself) does the rest of the work.

Hilarious!

by spacemanspiff 2008-07-01 12:35AM | 0 recs
Re: LOL!!!!!!!

are u an idiot? you have TR'ed meall evening every comment , you have HR'ed after I told yuo to stop-- I have 150-200 TR's from you and I will not refrain anymore if you keep doing it.  And you did it again...

by aliveandkickin 2008-07-01 12:55AM | 0 recs
More threats?

Feisty!

I love it when you talk dirty!

This coming from somebody who made a new account and wrote this crazy rant.

* Begin Transmission
SPACEMANSPIFF for every abuse filled post and abusive TR and HR
20 of your old and random comments will receive a TR by 3 other accounts each newly created in under 10 minutes .
Anyone who condones or mimics his behavior will be next
* End Transmission {this handle is now dormant} *

You are batshit insane dude! CRAAAAAZY!

P.S. To users reading this I h'rated this trolls SPAM. You will better understand when you get downthread!

by spacemanspiff 2008-07-01 01:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Well said.

SPUNKMEYER BUSTED  WITH SOCKPUPPETS!!! what is the community going to do about it?

SPUNK, dO you want tell everyone about your 2 additional handles AKA sockpuppets here?
calcetines
calcetines2

View Spunkmeyers 1st ever post on mydd look at the title on it http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/6/11/9 3155/1000/11#11

NOW see his two handles titles he used to pump up to TU and HR rate and TR my comments and see the same unique title back.

calcetines
calcetines2

DON'T FORGET to pat your fellow team member Spunk for being busted for a sockpuppet troll now.

by aliveandkickin 2008-07-01 12:06AM | 0 recs
Re: Well said.

Just so you folks know, take a look downthread. I left one of his comments intact but h'rated the rest. Spamming and stalking are bannable offenses.

A&K then wonders why he doesn't have TU status. Troll.

by spacemanspiff 2008-07-01 12:17AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to

Rec'ed!

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-06-30 09:13PM | 0 recs
Engels is hilarious.

But I can't stand the others. We need autoban, and it needs to be harder to get TU status here -- that way, people couldn't just show up and start TR/HR'ing.

by sricki 2008-06-30 09:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Engels is hilarious.

but you abuse it a lot too here scriki.  

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 09:20PM | 0 recs
Hm, not so much, actually.

Ask anyone but a troll, and they'll tell you that if I give you a 0 or a 1, it was thoroughly deserved. I usually just uprate.

by sricki 2008-06-30 09:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Hm, not so much, actually.

I can vouch that you abuse it.

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 09:24PM | 0 recs
I said,

"Ask anyone but a troll."

by sricki 2008-06-30 09:26PM | 0 recs
Re: I said,

ahh and you wonder why :)

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 09:29PM | 0 recs
You're a troll

with 4-10 sockpuppets, aliveandkickin. I suspect you've deserved every TR you've ever gotten. You can look at my ratings page and see how hard it is to get an HR from me. If you get them, you deserve them.

by sricki 2008-06-30 09:31PM | 0 recs
Re: You're a troll

hard? All you do is give the other abusers a pat in the back. If they dissent, god help them from your wrath.

Why only 4-10 why not make me the omnipotent and say everyone who disagrees with you must be my deep deep under cover handle(s). :)

Go for the gold in paranoia.

Btw have you donated 5 bucks yet? it's for a good cause when we walk that talk.

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 09:39PM | 0 recs
No one who HRs you is an abuser.

Honestly, who do I routinely HR? Only the trolls. Sadly, you just happen to be one of them. Heh. But I don't think I've HR'd you today. You haven't been as offensive as you were the other night when you were making fun of people who were financially disadvantaged. Very GOP of you, that was.

Why, yes, I donated.

by sricki 2008-06-30 09:51PM | 0 recs
Re: No one who HRs you is an abuser.

to me your a troll, should TR/HR you you everyday?

Cool you donated . I doubt GOP is looking at 5 bucks as a 'rich mans donation'.

Tell me ( lets see if you can answer honestly)

Friend comes to u and says 'man I don't even have 5 bucks to my name but I just spent 40 bucks to hang on the net w/ bloggers and TR and HR them.

I would go , dude. you need to get your priorities right. save your 40 bucks on the connection and just use sricki's bandwidth :)!

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 09:58PM | 0 recs
Figures the troll would think I'm a troll.

Ask around and see how many people agree with you. Seriously, please ask. It'll be funny.

You know, not everyone has a high speed connection. Ever heard of dial up? Also, because of the way pay day falls for some people, not everyone always has $5 in their bank accounts. Some people don't have debit cards, some don't have credit cards -- some stick to checks and cash. Your point of view is startlingly narrow minded. A bit pathetic, really.

by sricki 2008-06-30 10:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Figures the troll would think I'm a troll.

why ask anybody? you just fessed to HR'ing me everyday. I see you being a troll almost daily too. But I don't seek you out on TR/HR abuses. LOL

Yeah I have heard of dial up and also VHS tapes.:) I can guarantee you that 99.9999% people here are on  cable or dsl.

Again if you have a bank account you have a debit card in this day and age. and you accuse me of being narrow minded :)

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 10:14PM | 0 recs
Because you ARE narrow minded.

Again if you have a bank account you have a debit card in this day and age. and you accuse me of being narrow minded

My mother doesn't. She still writes checks. I'm done talking to you, though, because you're boring the holy living hell out of me. Have a troll-tastic evening.

by sricki 2008-06-30 10:17PM | 0 recs
Re: Because you ARE narrow minded.

why are you even conversing with it?

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-06-30 11:02PM | 0 recs
Masochistic tendencies....

I'm seeing a shrink about it. ;)

by sricki 2008-06-30 11:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Because you ARE narrow minded.

your mother among how many people you know? I mean come on... your trying to cite .00000000000000001% of people to justify this.  Really.

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 11:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Because you ARE narrow minded.

.00000000000000001% of people

What was that you were saying about a calculator below?

Glass houses...

by spunkmeyer 2008-06-30 11:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Because you ARE narrow minded.

SPUNK  DO you want tell everyone about your 2 additional handles AKA sockpuppets here?

View Spunks 1st ever post on mydd look at the title on it http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/6/11/9 3155/1000/11#11

NOW see his two handles titles he used`to pump up to TU and HR rate and TR my comments and see the unique title back.

calcetines
calcetines2

DON'T FORGET to pat your fellow team member Spunk for being busted for a sockpuppet troll now.

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 11:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Because you ARE narrow minded.

This is the only comment I'm not H'rating.

Take a look downthread peeps. Dude is spamming like crazy.

Spamming diaries is a bannable offense.

You do know this A&K or are you going to play the martyr once again?

by spacemanspiff 2008-07-01 12:13AM | 0 recs
Re: Because you ARE narrow minded.

I warned you below that you get off your horse or TR and HR of every comment I make . I showed much restraint in not doing it back to you for all of the 150_200 TR's you gave me.  Now You tr'ed on comments here as you did to me.

Your damn HR of me still is viewable by all here

by aliveandkickin 2008-07-01 12:29AM | 0 recs
So says the loser with over 10 sockpuppets!

You warned me?

I don't do threats douche. So could you kindly back the fuck up?

Thanks!

I H'rated your SPAM. I think posting the same thing (before I had h'rated it) more than 5 times is called spamming.

As for the t'rates, calling respected user trolls is reason enough.

by spacemanspiff 2008-07-01 12:42AM | 0 recs
Re: Because you ARE narrow minded.

Added link for his 2nd handle calcetines2 ( who knows how many out there) comments to compare.

calcetines
calcetines2  - View his 2nd handle pumping up the 1st sockpuppet out to TU ( check the title out)http://www.mydd.com/user/calcetines2/com ments

View Spunkmeyers 1st ever post on mydd look at the title on it http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/6/11/9 3155/1000/11#11

by aliveandkickin 2008-07-01 12:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Figures the troll would think I'm a troll.

mojo'd for TR abuse by spacemanspiff

by rankles 2008-06-30 11:41PM | 0 recs
Re: No one who HRs you is an abuser.

Ah, so you're back on the "let's offend people who don't have disposable income" kick.  Didn't you get pretty thoroughly smacked down for that the other night?

Given that your only defender around here is one of the more blatant trolls on this site, perhaps you should reconsider your behavior.

by mistersite 2008-07-01 04:43AM | 0 recs
"to me your a troll"

Whoa, did anybody else just get a mental picture of sricki and aliveandkickin as Obi Wan and Anakin, standing on floating platforms over a river of lava while wielding lightsabers?

SRICKI: You were the chosen one!  You were supposed to destroy the trolls, not join them!  Can't you see the trolls are evil?

ALIVEANDKICKIN: To me, the smart posters are evil!

SRICKI: Then you are lost...and a moron!

Heh, I'm really looking forward to the part where aliveandkickin tries to take the high ground.

by Elsinora 2008-07-01 10:14AM | 0 recs
Re: No one who HRs you is an abuser.

Oddly, he's posting 2-3 diaries a day, posting 300 comments a day, going into several user's past comments to make blanket uprates and downrates...so I am still trying to figure out when he has the time to drive his porsche?

sricki, you're one of the best here, don't let this get to you (though I know he doesn't)

by KLRinLA 2008-06-30 10:06PM | 0 recs
He posted at least 4 diaries in a

24 hour period one time. He goes back and deletes them a few days after the fact sometimes. Aliveandkickin is now my least favorite troll because he tries to pretend he isn't one.

Well, a respected member of the community thinks I'm decent, but aliveandkickin thinks I'm a troll. I wonder whose opinion is more valid. ;)

by sricki 2008-06-30 10:10PM | 0 recs
Re: He posted at least 4 diaries in a

Well, it depends on how you look at it, really.  Canadian gal may be well respected and may like you, but she's only got one username here.  Aliveandkickin thinks you're a troll (oh, the projection), and he's got a bunch.  Is his opinion more valid than yours when he uprates himself?

These are the kind of questions that keep me up at night.

by thatpurplestuff 2008-06-30 10:16PM | 0 recs
Re: He posted at least 4 diaries in a

with over 500 TR's given by your crew and you , I'd like to know how one up rates a few and yet achieves the goal ( I guess of TU)? because I don't have it...

and its you guys who want it to HR people . I have never HR'ed anyone ever

its useless_ most here can see it over a handful who cannot. so what is the point of it?

This site is now a bastion of back slappers who Mojo each others " Oh Obama is always right" dairies and comments. So again 99% of the people have TU , so why bother with HR'ing anyone...

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 10:26PM | 0 recs
Re: He posted at least 4 diaries in a

You don't hide rate but your sockpuppets do.

Why do you try so hard when everybody knows you are full of shit?

Calling sricki a troll is troll behavior troll. Yeah!

I see you got your sockpuppets to t'rate me and for the first time EVER I don't have TU status (at least for awhile). That's when things stop being funny and start getting annoying.

How can you pace yourself? Do you even work?

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-30 10:30PM | 0 recs
Re: He posted at least 4 diaries in a

Space---I just gave you a mojo for the 135 TR's you gave me. anyone who is such fan deserves a mojo . Rest of your rant_ i just sit back and watch you pop a vein...

Next time be a man and comment instead of hunting thru my comment history to random TR me.

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 10:34PM | 0 recs
Re: He posted at least 4 diaries in a

Alive,

are you in the US?  If so, it should be very easy for the mods to ascertain if in fact we're the same person, as I'm in europe.

I will continue to uprate you as long as you get TR'd for simply speaking your opinion.

by rankles 2008-06-30 11:44PM | 0 recs
Re: He posted at least 4 diaries in a

Are you talking to yourself there buddy?

Your spelling gives you away too by the way.

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-30 11:53PM | 0 recs
Re: He posted at least 4 diaries in a

TR'd for accusing me of being a troll (according to spacemanspiff, those are grounds for TR)

by rankles 2008-07-01 12:16AM | 0 recs
Re: He posted at least 4 diaries in a

No. Can you even read aliveandkickin?

Callin sricki a troll is t'rate worthy. Calling you ( the ONLY troll on MyDD) a troll is stating the obvious.

by spacemanspiff 2008-07-01 12:22AM | 0 recs
Re: He posted at least 4 diaries in a

yeah rankles I'm from GA, USA

by aliveandkickin 2008-07-01 12:52AM | 0 recs
Re: He posted at least 4 diaries in a

Cool,  I've lived a few times in Atlanta, though I've been in europe for the last five years.

by rankles 2008-07-01 01:07AM | 0 recs
You always manage to think outside the box, TPS.

If more handles -- even if they're the same person -- think I'm a troll, does that mean I probably am? An excellent question. Damn you, now I won't be able to sleep either. I'll be pondering this unusual quandary till dawn.

by sricki 2008-06-30 10:27PM | 0 recs
Re: You always manage to think outside the box, TP

I think you're a troll, as you constantly follow me around TRIng me, you and spunkmeyer and the Snarkiot.

by rankles 2008-06-30 11:46PM | 0 recs
rankles.

i rarely dole out the TR.

but i am giving you one for blatant lies and attacking sricki and spunk.  and you know it.

sorry.

by canadian gal 2008-06-30 11:52PM | 0 recs
Re: rankles.

I'm tr-ing you for blatant TR abuse, then.

by rankles 2008-07-01 12:14AM | 0 recs
Re: rankles.

I'm tr-ing you for blatant TR abuse, then.

by rankles 2008-07-01 12:17AM | 0 recs
Re: rankles.

Then Im giving you one, as well.

by rankles 2008-07-01 03:39AM | 0 recs
Re: rankles.

Then Im giving you one, as well.

by rankles 2008-07-01 03:42AM | 0 recs
That makes me sad, spankles.

Because I'm just starting to like you. It's been awhile since I TR'd you. Please like me back!!

by sricki 2008-06-30 11:53PM | 0 recs
lol

snarkiot.... thats like the snark idiot.

Clever shit.

by Is This Snark 2008-06-30 11:59PM | 0 recs
Re: He posted at least 4 diaries in a

For what it's worth (not much) I don't think you're a troll either.

by Why Not 2008-06-30 10:32PM | 0 recs
Re: No one who HRs you is an abuser.

KL ---Now see you could have downplayed the numbers and let your team here believe it is true. But you go throwing 300 comments blah blah...

so trollish sigh...

Might as well say I'm batman ...

Oh and on my porsche:  I drive it  but being retired at 39 after selling my online gaming company. I don't put the miles I used.

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 10:20PM | 0 recs
Re: No one who HRs you is an abuser.

ahh another TR from spacemanspiff filling his quota   of TR'ing every comment I make. and he has various socket puppets like you guys call them.

This one time I stopped at about 135 TR's ( count) he gave me. Its daily :)

see my point--- the ones who cry foul are___

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 10:29PM | 0 recs
Re: No one who HRs you is an abuser.

You're calling sricki a troll.

That's worth a 1 in my book.

Anybody else agree?

This passive agressive bullshit and innocent play you have going was old 2 weeks ago.

Now I have sockpuppets? LOL!

Not everybody has infinite time and a minimal life. Some people actually have jobs, or study or ::GASP:: spend their time usefully!

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-30 10:34PM | 0 recs
Re: No one who HRs you is an abuser.

Space---I think you missed my 5 comments in here from TR rating me.

Do us proud son... you are at what 6 TR's already on me in this diary.  Do it for your team! shoot it for your Country!

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 10:41PM | 0 recs
Re: No one who HRs you is an abuser.

There needs to just be rules in place for rating people.  It is beyond ridiculous.  You shouldn't be able to HR/TR people just because you don't agree with what they said.  I just thank god some of these people are not in power because freedom of speech only exist when they like what they hear.  

by Brandon 2008-06-30 10:47PM | 0 recs
Re: No one who HRs you is an abuser.

aliveandkickin is such an innocent fellow!

I wonder why "it" gets troll rated.

Maybe it's because of lame shit like this.

* Begin Transmission
SPACEMANSPIFF for every abuse filled post and abusive TR and HR
20 of your old and random comments will receive a TR by 3 other accounts each newly created in under 10 minutes .
Anyone who condones or mimics his behavior will be next
* End Transmission {this handle is now dormant} *

Keep on writing, I'll keep on t'rating. I'll risk a ban if it gets your sorry ass out of here.

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-30 10:52PM | 0 recs
Re: No one who HRs you is an abuser.

Im not him.  What he usually does is clearly trolling, but there is a difference between trolling and just HR/TR stuff that you don't agree with.

by Brandon 2008-06-30 10:54PM | 0 recs
Re: No one who HRs you is an abuser.

mojo'd for TR abuse by spacemanspiff

by rankles 2008-07-01 12:34AM | 0 recs
Re: No one who HRs you is an abuser.

mojo'd the last two comments for tr abuse by spacemanspiff.

by rankles 2008-06-30 11:47PM | 0 recs
you ARE aliveandkickin!

My, my!

What a coincidence. As soon as we say you 2 are not the same person A&K "leaves" and you appear on scene to mojo all his comments.

So damn predictable and obvious.

By the way....

T'rate abuse? Calling sricki a troll is t'rate worthy (that's why you have your very own 1).

C'mon alive, you can do better than this!

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-30 11:50PM | 0 recs
Re: you ARE aliveandkickin!

So everytime you've called me a troll, those comments should have been TR'd?

I'll remember that next time.

by rankles 2008-07-01 12:12AM | 0 recs
Re: You're a troll

Mojo'd for TR abuse by Is This Snark

by rankles 2008-06-30 11:39PM | 0 recs
Re: You're a troll

Rankles!!!

Hey everybody: Rankles is in the house!!!

This thread has now achieved critical mass.  It will soon implode on itself and tear a hole in the fabric of spacetime.

Say g'night, Gracie!

by spunkmeyer 2008-06-30 11:45PM | 0 recs
Re: You're a troll

 SPUNK BUSTED!!!

SPUNK  DO you want tell everyone about your 2 additional handles AKA sockpuppets here?

View Spunks 1st ever post on mydd look at the title on it http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/6/11/9 3155/1000/11#11

NOW see his two handles titles he used`to pump up to TU and HR rate and TR my comments and see the unique title back.

calcetines
calcetines2

DON'T FORGET to pat your fellow team member Spunk for being busted for a sockpuppet troll now.

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 11:57PM | 0 recs
Re: You're a troll

Added link for his 2nd handle calcetines2 ( who knows how many out there) comments to compare.

calcetines
calcetines2  - View his 2nd handle pumping up the 1st sockpuppet out to TU ( check the title out)http://www.mydd.com/user/calcetines2/com ments

View Spunkmeyers 1st ever post on mydd look at the title on it http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/6/11/9 3155/1000/11#11

by aliveandkickin 2008-07-01 12:19AM | 0 recs
Re: Engels is hilarious.

Agreed.  We should keep The engels as our pet troll & rid this place of the rest of 'em.  

Good diary, excellent point.

by candidate D 2008-06-30 09:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Engels is hilarious.

Is getting attacked by Engels a badge of honor or something..  I'll tell ya, I felt pretty indignant when he attacked me.

I for one, have pretty much lost my taste for calling out the trolls and flame wars.. strangely that has pushed me away from writing my opinion on this blog since this is the level I see more and more around here.

No thoughtful interchange of ideas yielding intelligent arguments that might make a difference in the way people think.

No just your typical back and forth flame wars with people TR/HR and saying only the most inflammatory comments they can think of just to get a rise out of each other.

Sad.. just plain sad.

by Why Not 2008-06-30 10:39PM | 0 recs
I like the trolls.

because they are not serious.  Its the people that are dead serious, but their views of things are so looney that its funny are scary to me.  And the primary hold over trolls of course.

by Brandon 2008-06-30 09:19PM | 0 recs
Rec'd in honor of aliveandkickin. n/t

by sricki 2008-06-30 09:23PM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you

So, wait, let me get this straight: you won't contribute to a democratic cause unless the mods give in to your blackmail by getting rid of the people you've listed?

Who died and made you Joe McCarthy?

I'm having a hard time believing you're actually a Democrat. Or even old enough to vote.

by SuGeAtARC 2008-06-30 09:31PM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you

that would mean 99% of this crowd in here so far would actually have to walk the talk. You know donate the big dollars ( $5.00 bucks)

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 09:41PM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you

You've commented all of TWICE here before, and vociferously defend A&K.

Nah, that's not suspicious.

by fogiv 2008-06-30 10:13PM | 0 recs
HR'ed for McCarthy/age attacks.

And while I don't normally feed trolls, the answer to your attack is obvious:  I'll still donate money to candidates, but not via MyDD's ActBlue fundraising effort.  Any dollars raised under MyDD's "Road to 60" banner lend credibility to MyDD, credibility I don't feel this site's administration has earned as of late.

It seems that Jerome, Jonathan, and Todd have taken their site's readership for granted.  Letting your site degenerate into a playground for trolls while giving your long-time readers little-to-no support is a lousy fundraising technique.  If they want to use the MyDD brand for fundraising, they'd do well to clean it up.

by Shem 2008-07-01 07:48AM | 0 recs
Re: HR'ed for McCarthy/age attacks.

No one has the right to tell the owners of a private site how to run it, or who they should allow to post.

If you have a problem with the policies of the moderators, I suggest you leave, because "Kick these people off or else... I won't send in money in your name!" -- is weak, weak, weak, and also stupid.

by SuGeAtARC 2008-07-01 09:23PM | 0 recs
That's rich...

...considering your treatment of aliveandkickin.  Granted, he's a useless tool, but HR has a very specific meaning on this site.

by username 2008-06-30 09:40PM | 0 recs
Re: That's rich...

I don't to whether to commend you or kill you :). I'll settle in reading the positive side of it ...

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 09:42PM | 0 recs
Re: That's rich...

Heh.  I meant something like "a pox on both your houses."  This is probably one of the only times we'll agree.  But people who do anything more than rate sparingly have no business bitching about ratings abuse.

by username 2008-06-30 10:20PM | 0 recs
Re: That's rich...

good point

by rankles 2008-06-30 11:49PM | 0 recs
the abuse is getting out of control.

but not just by trolls.  by users who think they have 'sussed' out trolls.  hell - i even have my own little accuser here myself.  

i guess my point is that there are blatant trolls like aiegre, jeronne armstrong and srickki.  everyone else to me just deserves to be swatted down with merit (which to be honest with you) is not very hard.

by canadian gal 2008-06-30 09:46PM | 0 recs
Re: the abuse is getting out of control.

well best thing is . No rating  allowed other than recommend. You don't a comment , ignore it.

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 09:53PM | 0 recs
i have no idea what your comment means.

but your behaviour here has been strange at best.  

and sricki is my bestest friend on mydd so i tend to agree with her more often than not.  that being said - one's reputation at mydd is worth its weight in gold.

like i said to you yesterday - the fact that multiple TR/HR abuse happens in your diaries to people that question you is suspect which is a shame because there has been times that you have had some interesting (and unintentionally funny - see: scrubs) things to say.

by canadian gal 2008-06-30 10:06PM | 0 recs
Aw, sricki hearts CG!

Aliveandkickin's Scrubs thing was really funny, I'll give him that. If he says it again and makes me laugh, I'll mojo him.

by sricki 2008-06-30 10:13PM | 0 recs
yeah...

i heart you too!

sometimes i read comments here and honestly laugh so hard that i cry.  that was one of those times.

but i am so tired, its been a crazy weekend - and happy canada day everyone!  have i missed much this weekend?

by canadian gal 2008-06-30 10:18PM | 0 recs
I know, it's so amusing. I was telling someone

the other day: I come here for the lulz. It's hilarious sometimes. There was one comment months ago which used the word "turd" at least 10 times in all these funny ways. Then one time there was a comment along the lines of, "Do you guys smell something? Oh, nevermind, that's just Bob Johnson having butt sex with his thumb." I remember it vividly. I HR'd it, but I almost died laughing (it was late at night, and I couldn't help it).

Not much went on here this weekend. Pretty slow, except for A&K's chronic concern. Oh, ilikebillnot showed up briefly, too.

by sricki 2008-06-30 11:32PM | 0 recs
ROTFL

that is pretty damn funny.

i missed ilikebillnot?

by canadian gal 2008-06-30 11:58PM | 0 recs
Yeah, ya missed him, but

the thread was no fun without you, SG, and RK, anyway. And he never posts tip jars anymore. Le sad...

by sricki 2008-07-01 12:21AM | 0 recs
Re: i have no idea what your comment means.

well lets see canadian girl I guess how people TR all my comments is not being suspect __ if these groups are TR rating all these guys comments and these guys happen to be in all my diaries.

Those comments get TR 's showing up in my dairy too :). Just simple logic

them being assholes w/ TR/HR is not restricted to only me . besides I have no clue what the diff is. Like I said before, not like I will get TU back in years :) or I bother to have it.

In all of these accusations somehow my account does not benefit. Hmm

But I have told you this several times! nothing new here.

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 11:19PM | 0 recs
Just so you know,

if canadian gal is wary of you, that's pretty bad news. She has consistently been one of the most level-headed, logical people on MyDD. She has also possibly been the nicest, most polite person here. I've only seen her really go off on someone one time, and that was because the guy (possibly you) decided to pretend he was me. CG has always been open minded and more than willing to give people the benefit of the doubt. If you've aroused her suspicions, then I assure you,

by sricki 2008-06-30 11:50PM | 0 recs
Tipped and recced.

Here's something I said to Venician a few days ago after a particularly depressing troll festival:

You know what my fantasy scenario is?  One in which I can just open MyDD every morning, read a few insightful diaries by dedicated Democrats, and move on with the news.

Having said that, I think everyone's noticed what a chaotic jumble the place has become since the end of the primaries.  I've given up trying to discern the Republi-trolls from the Deadend-i-trolls.  In the end, they all serve the same purpose: to linger and spout venom rather than working to purge the Neocon scum that have infested Washington for the past decade (and longer if you include the Contract With America assholes, Reagan Revolution, and... oh well, you get the idea).

Frankly, that's my only litmus test.  I love a good debate.  Really.  I do.  But that's not what's going on here these days, and everyone knows it, whether they want to acknowledge it or not.  Again, my only trigger is this: if you've made it clear that you're only here to cast stones, I will gladly call you out.  If you have something constructive to say, regardless of how you feel about the primaries, I'm all ears.  There are quite a few Hillary supporters here that I not only admire, but seek out.  Canadian gal is a great example.  In addition to reading her diaries, I actually scan her comments every day as well just to see what she has to say.  I can't imagine TRing even her harshest comments, because she is smart, has worked to establish a reputation here, and clearly thinks about what she wants to say before she says it. [I'm also starting to develop a little blog crush on psychodrew - for exactly the same reasons]

Also, and not to put too fine a point on it, but I respect those around here who know when not to post a diary.  A couple of people here have a habit of calling me out for posting comments rather than writing diaries.  Frankly, I think the quality of the writing around here would skyrocket if a few more people kept their "writing" confined to the open threads, rather than cluttering up the diary list.  Most of the obvious targets around here (we all know who they are - no need to list them) have a really tiresome M.O.: post a snippy, two-paragraph screed, then keep reposting it twice a day, with minor modifications according to the daily news cycle.  These are the kind of lowbrow punters that need a little cleaning up.  Hell, this comment has already taken up a few paragraphs, but even I could tell you it doesn't warrant a diary.

Finally, I know that the admins have been catching a lot of flak these days.  Even I slip up and rant about their seeming absence from time to time.  But I do think the bitter clutter in this joint deserves more of their attention.  The only reason this place sees as many abrupt, snarky troll call-outs as it does is because somebody seems to be asleep at the switch.  The readers shouldn't have to be singlehandedly responsible for enforcing the rules.

As a result, traffic has already dropped pitifully here.  We've all commented from time to time on how crazy it is that two recs gets a diary on the Rec List.  Honestly, if the admins don't address the issue, and put the smackdown on a few of the users abusing their site, I can easily picture this place dropping off the map in time.

And for the record: yes, I think that'd be a bad thing.

C'mon folks: keep the Netroots vital.

by spunkmeyer 2008-06-30 10:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Tipped and recced.

so says the guy who has hr/tr me on close to 150 comments...90% on comments which were benign.

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 10:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Tipped and recced.

and to top uses foul language many a times in his comments.

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 10:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Tipped and recced.

" I love a good debate.  Really.  I do. "

OMFF

That is the funniest thing I've read in a long time.

by rankles 2008-06-30 11:53PM | 0 recs
*Sigh*

alive, you've posted over 1,000 comments since you created your user name less than one month ago.  Yes: that's an average of over 300 comments per day.

150 TRs sounds about right to me.  And I think anyone who's bothered to read every one of your comments would agree that 150 is a pretty generous assessment of their qualities.

Add to this the fact that you've created the largest sockpuppet stable this site has ever seen - and have in fact bragged about it - and you're not going to get much sympathy with these protestations.

Hell, just have a look at the tirade you went on in the thread above.

Bring on the site moderators.  Please.

by spunkmeyer 2008-06-30 10:22PM | 0 recs
Re: *Sigh*

you might want to pull your calculator out and help your math.

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 10:43PM | 0 recs
Re: *Sigh*

You are soooo right.  An average of over 100 comments per day is soooo much more reasonable.

What else you got?  Let's hear it, big guy.  You haven't quite taken this thread down in a fiery ball of flaming idiocy.  

Keep it coming!

by spunkmeyer 2008-06-30 10:53PM | 0 recs
Re: *Sigh*

again wrong. pull that calculator out...third time is a charm.

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 11:20PM | 0 recs
Re: *Sigh*

BTW spunk to know i have made 1000 comments you have to go through every comment page. I wonder what you were doing in my profile mr 1010101 :)

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 10:52PM | 0 recs
Re: *Sigh*

WTF?  What's so hard about that?  You just have to take a quick look at your comment page, and click "next page" until it runs out.

I have to give it to you - it's an impressive... um... something...

by spunkmeyer 2008-06-30 10:55PM | 0 recs
Re: *Sigh*

SPUNKMEYER BUSTED  WITH SOCKPUPPETS!!!

SPUNK  DO you want tell everyone about your 2 additional handles AKA sockpuppets here?

View Spunks 1st ever post on mydd look at the title on it http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/6/11/9 3155/1000/11#11

NOW see his two handles titles he used`to pump up to TU and HR rate and TR my comments and see the unique title back.

calcetines
calcetines2

DON'T FORGET to pat your fellow team member Spunk for being busted for a sockpuppet troll now.

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 11:59PM | 0 recs
wow.

what a great compliment.  thanks (im actually blushing now).

by canadian gal 2008-06-30 10:11PM | 0 recs
It's true.

Trust me: quality and rational thought stick out around here like a sore thumb.

Like I say, I'm not that interested in writing.  But I am interested in reading.  I'm just getting tired of fighting to keep the clutter out.

by spunkmeyer 2008-06-30 10:24PM | 0 recs
Re: It's true.

What clutter?  The ridiculous "Do Not Feed The Troll" images you insist on posting time after time in any diary with which you don't agree?

That clutter?

Go back to KOS, troll.

by rankles 2008-06-30 11:54PM | 0 recs
Re: It's true.

Yup.  What rankles said.

by ChitownDenny 2008-07-01 05:19AM | 0 recs
Re: It's true.

SPUNKMEYER BUSTED  WITH SOCKPUPPETS!!!

SPUNK  DO you want tell everyone about your 2 additional handles AKA sockpuppets here?

View Spunks 1st ever post on mydd look at the title on it http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/6/11/9 3155/1000/11#11

NOW see his two handles titles he used`to pump up to TU and HR rate and TR my comments and see the unique title back.

calcetines
calcetines2

DON'T FORGET to pat your fellow team member Spunk for being busted for a sockpuppet troll now.

by aliveandkickin 2008-07-01 12:00AM | 0 recs
Enough

We're not stupid. We got your point the first five times. Quit spamming the board, asshole.

by Poor Yorick 2008-07-01 03:23AM | 0 recs
stop the personal attacks

I like Engels a lot. I haven't seen the others much thus I cannot judge. Why are diaries being made to attack other users?

by Lakrosse 2008-06-30 10:02PM | 0 recs
I also adore engels. n/t

by sricki 2008-06-30 10:03PM | 0 recs
Re: I also adore engels. n/t

Awww engels! Our very own holding on sweetie! That sig line cracks me up every single time. Just smiled thinking about it.

"The bots are cultists!" LOL!

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-30 11:19PM | 0 recs
I lost my TU status today.

Just checked and got t'rate and downrated like a motherfucker.

Highly rec'd (I donated anyways) but this is beyond ridiculous.

aliveandkickin and his sockpuppets are wreaking havoc and it's getting boring and annoying as hell. Just look at his/her whining all over this diary.

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-30 10:23PM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

I think I'll take a page from aliveandkickin's playbook and

go give you some mojos _ how's 30 or so sound?

The day spacemanspiff loses TU status is the day this site starts really circling the drain.

Tips for you, buddy!

by spunkmeyer 2008-06-30 10:27PM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

As I've had to mojo about five different posts today for TR abuse by spacemanspiff, I can understand why you've had your TU status taken.

Canadian gal, please don't uprate him.  Maybe it will teach him a lesson in free speech and open debate.

by rankles 2008-06-30 11:56PM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

rankles.  i dont support ratings abuse.  period.

and spaceman is passionate at times, definitely contributes to the level of discussion in our community, one of the coolest people here and certainly deserving of TU status.

without hesitation i uprated.

by canadian gal 2008-07-01 12:03AM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

Thanks CG.  ; )  Now I'm blushing! How did this diary become such a lovefest! LOL!

Anyways, I t'rate to call attention to the mods but it doesn't look like anybody is actually paying attention.

I've said it countless times already but...

these trolls are getting annoying as hell!

by spacemanspiff 2008-07-01 12:07AM | 0 recs
well...

up until they created a sock that pretended to be sricki, i found it rather humourous.  and then not so much and lost it.

and then tonight with you losing your TU status????  WTF?

not cool at all.

by canadian gal 2008-07-01 12:24AM | 0 recs
Re: well...

Here you are being nice and polite to this troll and then rankles calls you out and t'rates your post upthread.

Not cool. Not cool at all.

G' Night canada, this diary has been fun!

by spacemanspiff 2008-07-01 12:30AM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

" i dont support ratings abuse. "

If you uprated him, then you most certainly do support ratings abuse, inadvertently or not.

by rankles 2008-07-01 12:11AM | 0 recs
i can't say that i understand...

you logic.  or rather want to understand in any case.

by canadian gal 2008-07-01 12:18AM | 0 recs
Re: i can't say that i understand...

He has been abusing TR for better part of the last two weeks, constantly following me around and TRing ANY POST that I make, and littering my diaries with 'DONT FEED THE TROLL" pics.

If you support that, then you support ratings abuse.

Like I said, inadvertently or not.

by rankles 2008-07-01 12:22AM | 0 recs
LOL!!!!!!!

I don't even know how to post pictures!

Tell you what, you find 1 post where I posted a pic I'll uprate every single comment you make from now on.

P.S. I t'rate aliveandkickin, double check the username you are with before you accidently reveal your multiple accounts.

OOPS!

Cheers!

by spacemanspiff 2008-07-01 12:27AM | 0 recs
Re: LOL!!!!!!!

Im talking about spunkmeyer, not you, troll.

by rankles 2008-07-01 12:37AM | 0 recs
Re: LOL!!!!!!!

I get sricki's sockpuppets mixed up sometimes.  Especially those which start with 's' and never post anything of substance.

by rankles 2008-07-01 12:38AM | 0 recs
ROFL!

Don't lie, skankles. I'm one of your sockpuppets!

by sricki 2008-07-01 12:42AM | 0 recs
Re: ROFL!

skankles...wow, you're a funny guy, sicki.

by rankles 2008-07-01 01:09AM | 0 recs
Girl, my new friend. n/t

by sricki 2008-07-01 01:16AM | 0 recs
Sricki, I think your "new friend"

Is well summarized by this comic:

http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp12262 006.shtml

by Elsinora 2008-07-01 10:36AM | 0 recs
are you fricken kidding me?

i am going to uprate.  be back in a few.

by canadian gal 2008-06-30 10:29PM | 0 recs
Re: are you fricken kidding me?

http://www.mydd.com/user/vatoboys/rating s

by Is This Snark 2008-06-30 10:33PM | 0 recs
Re: are you fricken kidding me?

want to share yours on me with us too?

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 10:51PM | 0 recs
by Is This Snark 2008-06-30 11:04PM | 0 recs
i uprated a bunch of yours...

although there were a few i just couldn't. ;)

by canadian gal 2008-06-30 11:08PM | 0 recs
lol

only a troll couldn't up rate them all ;)

But much appreciated all the same!!!

by Is This Snark 2008-06-30 11:19PM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

* Begin Transmission *
This is Snark for every abusive language filled post and abusive TR and HR
20 of your old and random comments will receive a TR by 3 other accounts each newly created in under 10 minutes .
Anyone who condones or mimics his behavior will be next
* End Transmission {this handle is now dormant} *

by welcomenow1 on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 11:41:11 AM EST

And this....

Begin Transmission
SPACEMANSPIFF for every abuse filled post and abusive TR and HR
20 of your old and random comments will receive a TR by 3 other accounts each newly created in under 10 minutes .
Anyone who condones or mimics his behavior will be next
* End Transmission {this handle is now dormant} *

by welcomenow1 on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 07:23:30 PM EST
http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/6/30/1 83550/401/38#38

Me too. about 40 comments by two in the diary.

by Is This Snark 2008-06-30 10:31PM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

lol --- that made my day.

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 10:45PM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

sad life you lead my troll friend.

by Is This Snark 2008-06-30 10:48PM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

whys sad I was LOL my ass off when I read that.

No not sad...

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 11:35PM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

"""Re: I lost my TU status today. """

It's about time, TR abuser.

by rankles 2008-06-30 11:59PM | 0 recs
Yeah, I'm with CG.

Off to uprate you.

by sricki 2008-06-30 10:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Yeah, I'm with CG.

How great is it when the people you really like respond in less than a minute to an innocent plea for mojo! (heh!)

CG, spunk, sricki, Snark!

Thanks guys!

Now only if SG and Rage were around.

P.S. How long until aliveandkickin or one of his sockpuppets crys foul? Hmmmm....

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-30 10:40PM | 0 recs
Went back through

about 180 comments and uprated the ones which had been HR/TR'd. I hope you didn't say anything particularly vile because I was was completely indiscriminate about what I uprated. ;)

Don't know whether it will help, but that's total BS. A&K's sockpuppets are out of control. I saw one of your comments in the hide bin earlier with two HR's on it -- I mojo'd it then, though it didn't do any good. Maybe someone else will be able to pull it out.

by sricki 2008-06-30 10:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Went back through

I told a troll to fuck off (one of aliveandkickins sockpuppets).

Yeah, lost my cool there. Deserved the t'rate maybe.

I've been t'rated on very very few occasions so imagine my surprise when (after reading this diary) out of curiosity I took a look at my comments and lo and behold Papa Mctroll had done his thing.

It's really getting annoying. Take a look at this diary for instance.

Dude disrupts every single diary. MyDD needs to take the trash out.

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-30 11:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Went back through

just that one time or to 10's of other people in your time here?  ha

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 11:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Went back through

"I hope you didn't say anything particularly vile because I was was completely indiscriminate about what I uprated. ;)"

So in effect you are again abusing the system, i.e. uprating those with whom you agree (regardless of what they post) and downrating those with whom you disagree (regardless of what they post).

That is the classic defintion of ratings abuser.

You should have your TU status taken immediately.

by rankles 2008-07-01 12:01AM | 0 recs
Re: Yeah, I'm with CG.

Glad to see it worked!  That's just crazy lame.

by spunkmeyer 2008-06-30 11:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Yeah, I'm with CG.

SPUNKMEYER BUSTED  WITH SOCKPUPPETS!!! what is the community going to do about it?

SPUNK, dO you want tell everyone about your 2 additional handles AKA sockpuppets here?
calcetines
calcetines2

View Spunkmeyers 1st ever post on mydd look at the title on it http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/6/11/9 3155/1000/11#11

NOW see his two handles titles he used to pump up to TU and HR rate and TR my comments and see the same unique title back.

calcetines
calcetines2

DON'T FORGET to pat your fellow team member Spunk for being busted for a sockpuppet troll now.

by aliveandkickin 2008-07-01 12:08AM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

okay - i uprated like 30 or so - did that fix it?

by canadian gal 2008-06-30 10:47PM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

Yes!

You're the best C.G!

I had no idea aliveandkickin dedicated an entire day to creating accounts and following me around. IsThisSnark wrote a diary (which I just saw) and I followed the link. This is from an earlier diary.

* Begin Transmission
SPACEMANSPIFF for every abuse filled post and abusive TR and HR
20 of your old and random comments will receive a TR by 3 other accounts each newly created in under 10 minutes .
Anyone who condones or mimics his behavior will be next
* End Transmission {this handle is now dormant} *

Talk about batshit insane. Dude is borderline psycho.

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-30 10:55PM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

I have to say, I've seen Is This Snark post that snippet a few times in the last day or so, and it just makes me want to throw my hands up.  If the admins want proof that the place needs an overhaul, they need look no further.

Talk about batshit insane. Dude is borderline psycho.

You know, I think that while this is funny, it may be more true than we think.  Trolls like Engels are fun to play with - I actually kinda like the guy.  But A&K?  Something is really messed up there.  He's also very defensive about money - keeps talking about having a Porsche, a mother who was CFO of a "billion dollar" company, retiring at 39 after selling a software company himself, and then browbeating college students like sricki for not donating.  It's textbook delusions of grandeur.  And based on his language usage (or lack thereof), hyper-defensiveness, and pathological behavior, I think it's more likely the guy's sitting in a trailer somewhere.  Kind of sad.

But creepy.

by spunkmeyer 2008-06-30 11:07PM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

But wouldn't the person have all the sockpuppets to keep him/her company?  They could have their own little message board.

by rfahey22 2008-06-30 11:10PM | 0 recs
I managed to donate today, though!

No thanks to the Contribution Gestapo... It was really weird the way A&K freaked out about donations the other night. I don't think anyone would be terribly surprised to find him sitting by himself in a trailer, with nothing but stray feces decorating the walls of his eerie hovel.

by sricki 2008-06-30 11:15PM | 0 recs
LOL!!!!!!! ROFL!!!!!

Seriously, how does ANYBODY has so much spare time? Trolling this blog is an all day (everyday) thing for A&K. What kind of life is that? Sad.

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-30 11:23PM | 0 recs
Re: LOL!!!!!!! ROFL!!!!!

*have

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-30 11:24PM | 0 recs
I don't know, but I'm starting to think

maybe he isn't rankles. If rankles had the capacity to be that annoying, he'd have been doing it for a long time. A&K is a special kind of aggravating.

by sricki 2008-06-30 11:25PM | 0 recs
Re: I don't know, but I'm starting to think

I don't think he's rankles either.

At least rankles is honest and doesn't play cute when given the chance.

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-30 11:29PM | 0 recs
Re: I don't know, but I'm starting to think

Spoke toooooooooo sooooooooon.

A&K left and right on the dot rankles appears.

It's hilarious the way he speaks to himself as if it wasn't so damn obvious. That writing "style" is pretty unique.

High comedy.

by spacemanspiff 2008-07-01 12:00AM | 0 recs
I know, he just screws himself over and over.

The second I start to think my deduction was incorrect, he all but proves me right. What are the odds that two of the biggest trolls on MyDD decide to show up together at 3 AM CST to save each other's comments, which are all being downrated? Apparently, rankles is a pretty versatile troll. The talking to himself thing is hysterical. Classic stuff.

by sricki 2008-07-01 12:16AM | 0 recs
Re: I don't know, but I'm starting to think

all this while you guys have dedicated 4 hrs on me this evening. ROFL

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 11:32PM | 0 recs
You're very special to us, dear. n/t

by sricki 2008-06-30 11:34PM | 0 recs
Re: I don't know, but I'm starting to think

all this while you guys have dedicated 4 hrs on me this evening. ROFL

At 3:30 in the morning, the truth comes out.  

People are paying attention to you, sweetheart!  At last!  

And all you had to do was spend the entire month posting on the internetz 24 hours a day!

Gold stars for everybody!

G'night, all.

by spunkmeyer 2008-06-30 11:42PM | 0 recs
PWNED.

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-30 11:43PM | 0 recs
Re: I don't know, but I'm starting to think

 SPUNK BUSTED!!!

SPUNK  DO you want tell everyone about your 2 additional handles AKA sockpuppets here?

View Spunks 1st ever post on mydd look at the title on it http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/6/11/9 3155/1000/11#11

NOW see his two handles titles he used`to pump up to TU and HR rate and TR my comments and see the unique title back.

calcetines
calcetines2

DON'T FORGET to pat your fellow team member Spunk for being busted for a sockpuppet troll now.

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 11:56PM | 0 recs
Re: I managed to donate today, though!

"nothing but stray feces decorating the walls of his eerie hovel."

And you claim to not be a troll.

Uh huh.

by rankles 2008-07-01 12:03AM | 0 recs
Be my friend, spankles? n/t

by sricki 2008-07-01 12:07AM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

 SPUNKMEYER BUSTED  WITH SOCKPUPPETS!!!

SPUNK  DO you want tell everyone about your 2 additional handles AKA sockpuppets here?

View Spunks 1st ever post on mydd look at the title on it http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/6/11/9 3155/1000/11#11

NOW see his two handles titles he used`to pump up to TU and HR rate and TR my comments and see the unique title back.

calcetines
calcetines2

DON'T FORGET to pat your fellow team member Spunk for being busted for a sockpuppet troll now.

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 11:58PM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

This again?

You post this nonsense every other day.

LAME.

by spacemanspiff 2008-07-01 12:01AM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

SPUNKMEYER BUSTED  WITH SOCKPUPPETS!!! what is the community going to do about it?

SPUNK, dO you want tell everyone about your 2 additional handles AKA sockpuppets here?
calcetines
calcetines2

View Spunkmeyers 1st ever post on mydd look at the title on it http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/6/11/9 3155/1000/11#11

NOW see his two handles titles he used to pump up to TU and HR rate and TR my comments and see the same unique title back.

calcetines
calcetines2

DON'T FORGET to pat your fellow team member Spunk for being busted for a sockpuppet troll now.

by aliveandkickin 2008-07-01 12:09AM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

so Spacemanspiff----should I give TR's for everyone you abused me in here? now...and in the past. :)

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 11:36PM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

don't worry I know how precious it is too...just quit your mass tr'ing of me or else I will change my mind.

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-30 11:38PM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

Are you serious?

You think I give a FUCK about your petty threats?

OH NOES!!1!! aliveandkickin is intimidating! So scared!

T'rate away my friend. Make sure to use different sockpuppets so it's not so damn obvious.

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-30 11:42PM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

Mojo'd for TR abuse by spacemanspiff.

by rankles 2008-07-01 12:08AM | 0 recs
Re: I lost my TU status today.

I'm just your average everyday lurker...but no way should you lose your TU status so I mojoed the last 30 comments you made.  Hope this helps!

by Luma 2008-07-01 06:42AM | 0 recs
oh....

and btw - to the diarist - i uprated a bunch of your as well.  but again - some i couldnt ;)

by canadian gal 2008-07-01 12:34AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean

Get rid of the fucking 1 rating.  Problem solved.

by Skaje 2008-07-01 02:29AM | 0 recs
People have a right to disagree with Sen. obama

without having to fear being troll rated. What are you complainig about? I have been troll rated and very offensive troll pictures drawn just because I disagreed with Sen. Obama's policiy "adjustments". I have a right to diagree when he is "disagreeable enough"!

by indydem99 2008-07-01 04:10AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60

From the guidelines:

Users who are bashing or attacking any other user on the site, including authors of diaries and frontpage postings, will be banned.

The diarist might want to consider his own behavior, particularly HR abuse.

by souvarine 2008-07-01 04:13AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60

Well heck, I get attacked nonstop from my fans sricki, spunkmeyer, ragekage and spacemanspiff (among others).

When will this be adressed?

by rankles 2008-07-01 04:19AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60

Well heck, I get attacked nonstop from my fans sricki, spunkmeyer, ragekage and spacemanspiff (among others).

When will this be adressed?

When you leave the site... or when someone upstairs comes to their senses and bans you.  Your utterly ignorant diary accusing Obama of being a closet atheist was the last straw for me.

by mistersite 2008-07-01 04:39AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60

lmao

Go back to kos, kid.

by rankles 2008-07-01 05:01AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60

There's a comeback.

While I've apparently got your attention, would you mind telling me which seminary you went to that taught that the Old Testament has nothing to do with doctrine?  Also, tell me where exactly in the Bible you find justification for claiming that a person you've never met, who claims to be a person of faith, is a closet atheist.

by mistersite 2008-07-01 05:22AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60

Well, you're not very smart, so I understand.

by rankles 2008-07-01 10:24PM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60

Comments are a little different, trashing members in a diary is not usually tolerated. I have not seen you trashing that set (ragekage seems to have wisely absented himself from the fray) but they have their own opposites that trash them back. I wouldn't miss them if the lot of them were banned.

by souvarine 2008-07-01 05:09AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60

I wish people would just discuss issues without getting personal about it.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm arguing with 15 year olds.

by rankles 2008-07-01 05:12AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

Does the author think MyDD should require loyalty oaths?

Only praise for Obama here, please, and only Democrats, and only people who think exactly alike and do not upset the Obamans.

Haven't we just spent eight years of that sort of thing?  Hasn't it been Democrats and liberals condemning it?

by Juno 2008-07-01 04:57AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

Only praise for Obama here, please, and only Democrats, and only people who think exactly alike and do not upset the Obamans.

Please show me where exactly in this diary you're reading that, because that sounds like a bit of a strawperson to me.

There are actual trolls here, and you can see their handiwork in the thread above.  It would be nice if the administration of this site dealt with them appropriately.

by mistersite 2008-07-01 05:04AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

Ignore this troll.

by rankles 2008-07-01 05:06AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

Grow some skin. Who cares?

Anything short of adoration for Obama is not only called Obama bashing but the person is automatically called a troll and worse.

I know this for a fact because I have been subjected to it relentlessly.

The intolerance/arrogance combo in Obamans is disturbing and, again, reminds me of Bush culture.

by Juno 2008-07-01 05:20AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

uhm.... you're comparing us to Bush supporters.  When you insult people, they will likely get angry.

Your problem in particular is that you take "new politics" as a license to heap abuse on Obama and his supporters and then whine when someone calls you on it.

There are rational people who disagree with Barack Obama on this site, and when they do so respectfully they receive respect from all but the most lunatic of Obama supporters.  Your problem is that you think you should receive respect from Obama supporters while calling them "intolerant/arrogant" and members of a cult, and comparing them to Bush supporters... and then you play the martyr when people take umbrage at your offensive language.

by mistersite 2008-07-01 05:27AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

Right, but I don't take offense personally, I take offense at the shows of hypocrisy by Obama supporters who say they want change and get all upset if anyone dares criticize Obama or his supporters but then turn around and bash the hell out of individuals here.  It's the hypocrisy.

Obamans are to be held to a higher standard. They're the ones who got on their high horses and insisted we need change and to end the old, divisive politics.

yet they can't do it themselves.

I think Obama's supporters DO behave as Bush supporters did. I do not say that gratuitously or to insult. I really see it, and it's disturbing.  But again as like Bush, you seem to think that such words should not be uttered, that saying it is the offense, that such actions should not be called out.

If Obamans were as the claim to be, they'd be introspective and circumspective about the criticism, but they aren't. They are reactive instead and defensive.

And I disagree with you about respectful disagreement.  Obama supporters have a pattern of tolerating zero criticism of Obama.  I've even seen  A LOT benign stuff called "Obama bashing."

I've defended Obama as much as I've criticized him.  For me it isn't about the person, it's about the job. For Obama supporters, it's about the person. If it were about the job, you'd hear the criticism in a less personal affront way (awkward sentence. Sorry).

You only hear it as an insult.  Bushies too would tolerate no criticism of Bush, and they too used similar arguments.

I find it very disturbing.

by Juno 2008-07-01 05:34AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

Well, feel free to explain for me how someone insisting there be no critics of Obama, no voices of dissent, etc., allowed here is NOT like the Bush culture of scripted audiences who've signed loyalty oaths and removing all who might criticize Bush?

by Juno 2008-07-01 05:44AM | 0 recs
Nobody's insisting any of that

except you.  That's why everyone thinks you're an idiot.

by JJE 2008-07-01 06:45AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

Show me someone insisting that.  I want names.

by mistersite 2008-07-01 10:09AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

The whiney baby-wipe dirty-diaper wing of our party sometimes eerily calls to mind the hardest of the hard righties.

I think most of them would be perfectly at home there, calling for the banning of moderates and other non-ultra rightists.

To be perfectly frank, sometimes the left wing fascist types scare me more than the right wing fascist types.

Why?  Because they seem so much better at it.

by rankles 2008-07-01 05:05AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

It's one reason I call Obama the Bush of the Left.

I see so many disturbing similiarities, in his supporters as well.

by Juno 2008-07-01 05:18AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

Yeah, I don't usually like to go there, but I agree.

by rankles 2008-07-01 05:21AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

I don't like to go there either, but ah see what ah see, it is what it is.

by Juno 2008-07-01 05:26AM | 0 recs
Bullshit

you don't go anywhere else.

by JJE 2008-07-01 06:44AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

It's one reason I call Obama the Bush of the Left.

And you wonder why Obama supporters don't respect you?

by mistersite 2008-07-01 05:28AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

I don't care if they don't respect me.

I care that they say one thing and do another.

Question: when Obama becomes president, will criticizing him be the same as hating America too?

Groan.  

by Juno 2008-07-01 05:36AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

and you wonder why nobody respects you? you got to give some to get some.

by zerosumgame 2008-07-01 08:09AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

Is this another "you all" moment from you, zerosumgame, where one Obama supporter is being held to account for the actions of all?  Or do you have specific problems with me?

If the former, that's problematic in that there is no organization on that level; if the latter, time for some specifics and evidence on your part.

by mistersite 2008-07-01 10:09AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

One-note Juno strikes again.  Even when the comment makes no sense in the context of the diary, Juno recycles it.

by rfahey22 2008-07-01 06:36AM | 0 recs
Re

It's easy to throw tomatoes from the crowd. The ratings system is broken, it'll get replaced, don't waste your time with it.

by Jerome Armstrong 2008-07-01 05:51AM | 0 recs
Re: Re

Tomatoes!
Salmonella!
Ahhhhhhh!!!!
;)

I am looking forward to the site updates, Jerome....can you give us a peek at what will be included?

by Kysen 2008-07-01 06:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Re

No one ever threw tomatoes at Laurence Olivier.  If the crowd is throwing produce at you then you might want to ask yourself why.  

by Blue Neponset 2008-07-01 06:33AM | 0 recs
Absolutely

The too cute by one response seems like a brush-off, and that's no way to treat your constituency. I guess I should be thankful there was any response at all, though.

by Poor Yorick 2008-07-01 07:36AM | 0 recs
Re: Re

Jerome, its also easy to view the Hidden Comments area.

There are about 5-10 "PUMA/McCain" activists perusing the site.

Since I was told by admin here that McCain advocacy was strictly prohibited and bannable I 0-rated them.

Please do something as it appears to many that this sight gives free reign to them.

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-07-01 07:06AM | 0 recs
This isn't about the ratings system.

It's about your willingness to let trolls run rampant on this site at the expense of your long-time Democratic readership.

by Shem 2008-07-01 08:10AM | 0 recs
That's to say.

If you were even half as "duly diligent" in dealing with today's trolls as you were in dealing with what you considered primary season's overzealous Obama supporters, things'd be quite different here.

by Shem 2008-07-01 08:20AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

Btw, how is referring to human beings as "trash" Obaman in nature, evidence of hope and change and inspiration, etc.?

by Juno 2008-07-01 06:12AM | 0 recs
And what the fuck are you doing

to elevate the dialog?

Fuck all, that's what I think.

If you have a point to make, then damn well make it. Otherwise, you're just so much noise pollution cluttering up an otherwise decent discussion.

by Poor Yorick 2008-07-01 07:45AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

There is no such thing as being "Obaman", it isn't a religion.  An asshole can support Obama just as soon as a saint can, same with Hillary.  No one accuses PUMA nuts of not being "Clintonian in nature".

by mydoubled 2008-07-01 11:12AM | 0 recs
Start donating.

All the links you provided indicate that those users can no longer rate and have had their history scrubbed.

by TCQuad 2008-07-01 06:31AM | 0 recs
Re: Start donating.
Word.
;)
by Kysen 2008-07-01 06:37AM | 0 recs
Re: Start donating.

I agree, nothing has changed.

Only TR "abusers" were banned, not the 10 people who are Zero rated over and over again for supporting McCain and smearing Demcrats.

Just look at the Hidden Comments list.
As long as that list is as consistent as it is, I will hold my donations.

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-07-01 08:31AM | 0 recs
I agree

I didnt want to say it, but I can't donate to a MYDD fund at this time.

Not going to get into specifics, but the site hasn't taken a stand against smear merchants and their possees of trolls.

When I hear the Admin come out HARD on the matters of electing Democrats in 2009 I can't see the point.
I was told BY ADMIN that anyone campaigning for McCain would be banned, havent seen it happen once.

When I feel that this site is a part of the blogoshpere I can be proud of to brag about I will donate.

Until then there are other Actblue coalitions, Brave New Films, MoveOn, and The Young Turks who I will continue to direct my disposable income towards as I know they represent what I want 110%.

Don't take this as a diss, it is what it is.

If the site goes positive, and that means users AND Admin and we start moving forwards instead of treading water while floating towards a waterfall I will donate.

I really hope that by July 31 at 1145 I can change my mind.

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-07-01 07:28AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

Well this is apparently one way to get a response from the mods. I notice all of the users mentioned in the diary have no comments or ratings history. They must have either had their privileges removed or been banned. I also found that a few of the worst offenders that appeared recently that were accused of being sockpuppets have disappeared.

by MS01 Indie 2008-07-01 07:39AM | 0 recs
Re: I'll donate to Road to 60 when you clean out t

I dont think its enough, those listed at the top were obvious sockpupets for TRing, because I never saw them post.

But we NEED user moderating.    

All we can do is Hide rate and hope the admin does something.

Thats not good enough, just click "View Hidden Comments"

pages and pages of the same 5 names.

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-07-01 07:41AM | 0 recs
Grow up and get over it

Please. Of all things.

This diary beats PUMA for being silly, pointless and vain.

by redwagon 2008-07-01 07:43AM | 0 recs
Re: Grow up and get over it

Nah...NOTHING beats PUMA in those categories.

by Kysen 2008-07-01 07:54AM | 0 recs
Your rec of this comment's noted, Jerome.

It's fine if you want to make and endorse such condescending comments, but don't be surprised when people're less than anxious to open their wallets for you, Jerome.  Seeing this, I'd suggest people donate directly to the Senate candidates rather than routing their money through Jerome's ActBlue effort.

by Shem 2008-07-01 02:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Your rec of this comment's noted, Jerome.

Wow, Jerome, thats disturbing.

I guess he does support Puma.

(patiently waiting to be banned)

by DemsLandslide2008 2008-07-01 03:02PM | 0 recs
A mess

The definition of trollery is hijacking the energies of people to engage them in pointless, circular debates over meaningless meta issues, posting rapid-fire comments that keep people sucked into train-wreck threads rather than contributing to substantial conversations, and keeping people angry and annoyed rather than enlightened.

This thread is itself an object lesson in what happens when internet trolls take over a site.

by BobzCat 2008-07-01 08:22AM | 0 recs
You Go!

I've been sickened by the people who run this site and have allowed the crap to pile up.
A Democratic site? Not hardly! Not anymore.

It's become a play ground for the Repugs and the people who don't get it that Hillary is no longer a candidate and that she now endorses STRONGLY Obama for President.

by Grissom1001 2008-07-01 10:56AM | 0 recs
Re: clean out the trash. [Update]

Rec'd.  The random drive by troll is cool to sharpen one's skill's with, and engels is a hoot, but the habitual trolls like aliveandkicking and rankels are mostly just annoying.

by NewOaklandDem 2008-07-01 11:01AM | 0 recs
Worth noting.

On a site where two recs is enough to get on the rec list, this speaks volumes:

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by spunkmeyer 2008-07-01 11:40AM | 0 recs
Amen!

And your update...

If you were even half as "duly diligent" in dealing with today's post-primary trolls as you were in dealing with what you considered primary season's overzealous Obama supporters, things'd be quite different here.

Is spot on!  Jerome spent what seemed like 24 hours a day kicking Obama supporters to the curb.  Now he's MIA and the place is completely in the crapper.  I applaud the fact that he didn't resort to banning you for this honest diary but I'll bet my last dollar he considered it.  

by SpanishFly 2008-07-01 12:53PM | 0 recs
Re:

I wish I could rec you again for your update.

Preach on.

by MNPundit 2008-07-01 01:21PM | 0 recs

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