An ''Infuriated" Ted Kennedy, LBJ, MLK and John Lewis

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Thoughts on LBJ, John Lewis, Teddy and Obama

At first. I thought the MLK-LBJ flap was just push back from Obama's campaign at the way Hillary had framed the distinction between she and Obama. I hugely respect both King and Johnson and  feared only that there was a anti-historic diminishing of the role of LBJ, the President that cared more about the poor than any other, that concerned me.

This is what Hillary said.  The media never published the whole quote:

"I would point to the fact that that Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, when he was able to get through Congress something that President Kennedy was hopeful to do, the President before had not even tried, but it took a president to get it done. That dream became a reality, the power of that dream became a real in people's lives because we had a president who said we are going to do it, and actually got it accomplished."

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"Dr. Martin Luther king led a movement. He was gassed. He was beaten, and then he worked with President Johnson to get the civil laws passed. The dream couldn't be realized until finally it was legally permissible."

Because of that short but very accurate description of the interplay that led to the voting rights act (so good, I wonder if it was vetted by her pal and MLK biographer, Taylor Branch?), the media and the Obama campaign led us on a two week witch hunt, searching for racists and "racist code" in any Clinton word or any Clinton supporter.

But just when we think it can't get any uglier or stupider, in steps Teddy Kennedy...

Clinton's LBJ Comments Infuriated Ted Kennedy 08/01/post_11.html

There's more to Sen. Edward Kennedy's endorsement of Barack Obama than meets the eye. Apparently, part of the reason why the liberal lion from Massachusetts embraced Obama was because of a perceived slight at the Kennedy family's civil rights legacy by the other Democratic presidential primary frontrunner, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.).

Sources say Kennedy was privately furious at Clinton for her praise of President Lyndon Baines Johnson for getting the 1964 Civil Rights Act accomplished. Jealously guarding the legacy of the Kennedy family dynasty, Senator Kennedy felt Clinton's LBJ comments were an implicit slight of his brother, President John F. Kennedy, who first proposed the landmark civil rights initiative in a famous televised civil rights address in June 1963.

One anonymous source described Kennedy as having a "meltdown" in reaction to Clinton's comments. Another source close to the Kennedy family says Senator Kennedy was upset about two instances that occurred on a single day of campaigning in New Hampshire on Jan. 7, a day before the state's primary.

The first was at an event in Dover, N.H., at which Clinton supporter Francine Torge introduced the former first lady saying, "Some people compare one of the other candidates to John F. Kennedy. But he was assassinated. And Lyndon Baines Johnson was the one who actually" signed the civil rights bill into law.

The Kennedy insider says Senator Kennedy was deeply offended that Clinton remained silent and "sat passively by" rather than correcting the record on his slain brother's civil rights record.

Kennedy was also apparently upset that Clinton said on the same day: "Dr. [Martin Luther] King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act. It took a president to get it done."

Both comments that day in NH, by Clinton and her supporter, were meant to make the point that Clinton would be better equipped to get things done as president than Obama, her chief Democratic rival. Nothing more.

I can understand Ted"s anger. He, the last survivor, wants to preserve Camelot. Besides, he and the entire "Camelot" crew still hate Lyndon Johnson's guts. He will not give LBJ credit for anything, and will resent any credit he gets. This small minded and petulant attitude and response is both destructive and divisive to our Party.   But, it's very typical to to the Kennedy crowd. Very. I know, in my shallow and craven youth, I used to be part of it.

But the historical truth is the myth of Camelot was built upon the legislative skills of Lyndon Baines Johnson.

In his dealings with Congress, however, Kennedy was an ineffective President. His legislative agenda was log jammed in Congress and he could not move it forward.  Even when he finally  decided to move on Civil Rights after the march on DC, little happened.  But before that, the Kennedy administration did very little - if anything - to help those struggling down south, fearful of losing southern votes in the 1964 election.

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Of John Lewis, the historian Howard Zinn wrote: "At the great Washington March of 1963, the chairman of the Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee (SNCC), John Lewis, speaking to the same enormous crowd that heard Martin Luther King's I Have a Dream, (speech) was prepared to ask the right question: 'Which side is the federal government on?' That sentence was eliminated from his speech by organizers of the March to avoid offending the Kennedy Administration. But Lewis and his fellow SNCC workers had experienced, again and again, the strange passivity of the national government in the face of Southern violence."


"John Lewis and SNCC had reason to be angry. John had been beaten bloody by a white mob in Montgomery as a Freedom Rider in the spring of 1961. The federal government had trusted the notoriously racist Alabama police to protect the Riders, but done nothing itself except to have FBI agents take notes. Instead of insisting that blacks and whites had a right to ride the buses together, the Kennedy Administration called for a 'cooling-off period,' a moratorium on Freedom Rides"


Standing at the foot of the Lincoln Memorial, John Lewis turned his wrath, not at the easy target, the Dixiecrats, but against the Administration.... To many, the March had been presented as a gigantic lobby for the Administration's Civil Rights Bill, but Lewis pointed quickly, unerringly, to the weaknesses in the bill. Furthermore, by sponsoring a new civil-rights bill, the Administration had skillfully turned attention to Congress, and deflected the erratic spotlight of the civil-rights movement from possibly focusing on inadequacies of the Executive. The straight, crass fact at which John Lewis was aiming is this: the national government, without any new legislation, has the power to protect Negro voters and demonstrators from policemen's clubs, hoses and jails--and it has not used that power.

It wasn't until LBJ got to the White House that real action took place in the passage of the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts.

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March to Selma and LBJ and how Civil Rights protections became the law of our land.


On March 7, John Lewis of SNCC led a march of 600 people to walk the 54 miles from Selma to the state capital in Montgomery. Only six blocks into the march, however, at the Edmund Pettus Bridge, state troopers and local law enforcement, some mounted on horseback, attacked the peaceful demonstrators with billy clubs, tear gas, rubber tubes wrapped in barbed wire and bull whips. They drove the marchers back into Selma. John Lewis was knocked unconscious and had to be dragged to safety.


The national broadcast of the footage of lawmen attacking unresisting marchers seeking the right to vote provoked a national response as had scenes from Birmingham two years earlier. The marchers were able to obtain a court order permitting them to make the march without incident two weeks later. After a second march to the site of Bloody Sunday, local whites murdered voting rights supporters, Rev. James Reeb and killed Detroit homemaker Viola Liuzzo .


Johnson delivered a televised address to Congress eight days after the first march in support of the voting rights bill he had sent to Congress. In it he stated:


"But even if we pass this bill, the battle will not be over. What happened in Selma is part of a far larger movement which reaches into every section and state of America. It is the effort of American Negroes to secure for themselves the full blessings of American life."


"Their cause must be our cause too. Because it is not just Negroes, but really it is all of us, who must overcome the crippling legacy of bigotry and injustice. And we shall overcome."

"To see Lyndon Johnson get that bill through, almost vote by vote," said Pultizer Prize-winning LBJ biographer Robert Caro, "is to see not only legislative power but legislative genius."

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Standing with Martin Luther King, John Lewis was in the room when President Johnson signed the Voting Rights Act of 1965 on August 6. The act suspended poll taxes, literacy tests and other voter tests. It authorized Federal supervision of voter registration in states and individual voting districts where such tests were being used. African-Americans who had been barred from registering to vote finally had an alternative to local or state courts. If voting discrimination occurred, the 1965 act authorized the Attorney General of the United States to send federal examiners to replace local registrars.

Finally, the impact of the 1964 act on the American political scene was profound. Bill Moyers, a former aide to LBJ, recalled, in a statement during a 1990 symposium at the Johnson Library:

 The night that the Civil Rights Act was passed, I found him in the bedroom, exceedingly depressed. The headline of the bulldog edition of the Washington Post said, "Johnson Signs Civil Rights Act." The airwaves were full of discussions about how unprecedented this was and historic, and yet he was depressed. I asked him why.


He said, "I think we've just delivered the South to the Republican Party for the rest of my life, and yours."


So that's the History.  How did it get distorted, twisted and then used for Obama's political gain?

"Obama :"I am baffled by that statement by the Senator. She made an ill-advised statement about Dr. King, suggesting that Lyndon Johnson had more to do with the Civil Rights Act. For them to somehow suggest that we're interjecting race as a consequence of a statement she made is pretty hard to figure out."

  In a candid interview on "Inside City Hall," Rep. Charles Rangel:


"How race got into this thing is because Obama said `race,'" Rangel tells Political Anchor Dominic Carter. "But there is nothing that Hillary Clinton has said that baffles me. I would challenge anybody to belittle the contribution that Dr. King has made to the world, to our country, to civil rights, and the Voting Rights Act. But for him to suggest that Dr. King could have signed that act is absolutely stupid. It's absolutely dumb to infer that Doctor King, alone, passed the legislation and signed it into law."

Then the statement that should have ended this whole false and tasteless incident, but that NO ONE in the national media EVER published or quoted, John Lewis said on PBS's News Hour on 1/14:

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"It is unfortunate that people have tried to distort what Mrs. Clinton had to say about Dr. King,""I think there has been a deliberate and systematic attempt by some people in the Obama campaign to really fan the flames about race and to really distort what Senator Clinton said.  I understood and I think most right thinking people understood what she said.

   "President and Senator Clinton have a record, a history, a very long history of bringing people together.  No right thinking American would ever think that Senator or President Clinton would ever do anything that would use the race card"

   "I must tell you...I'm trying to set the record straight...the Obama camp is doing something else, theyr'e sending out memos to the media trying to suggest that the Clintons are playing the race card."

Then Teddy was "offended", got "infuriated" and had "a meltdown" because Hillary and others dared to sing the praises of President Lyndon Johnson .  I'm just relieved that Mrs. Johnson isn't around to hear this completely Soviet style re-writing of our history. My God, as an ex Kennedy staffer myself, I think it is truly time to "turn the page" on this foolish, selfish, small minded man.


As I have always said since I left his employ long ago in horror and shame, Uncle Teddy votes well, but besides that...

jesse jackson --- For example, it was unfair to attack her on that basis [Senator Clinton stated that Dr. King did not act alone. She said that he needed a politician to get civil rights legislation enacted]. The reality is that that was not an insult to Dr. King. Dr. King campaigned for Lyndon Johnson. Because if Goldwater had won, we wouldn’t have had the Voting Rights Act of ’65. You need a combination of litigation, people like Thurgood Marshall, and demonstrations, [people like] Dr. King. And legislation, [people like] Lyndon Johnson. You need that combination. That was gotcha politics.

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Great diary.


by lonnette33 2008-02-01 11:21AM | 0 recs
Re: LBJ, MLK and John Lewis

it was a lot longer and more in depth about LBJ, but i  erased much of it by accident...oops!

by Seymour Glass 2008-02-01 11:57AM | 0 recs
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great pic huh, i dont know anything about it ,but i  felt it fit my meaning here.

when i went to work for teddy as an 18year old, i believed what they believed, but then when i found out what a real ...jerk.. EMK really was....

Then later in my studies, i found out to my surprise what a good and caring fellow and President, LBJ really was.. he was twice the man that Teddy is.  Ten times the man...  

just like now, then the media loved glamor over substance...flash over talent. Such juvenile BS.

somethings never change...

by Seymour Glass 2008-02-01 12:22PM | 0 recs
My, My

well, i never heard that story before...but my "satori"  moment about EMK revolves around that same thing...this "habit" of his was not well known though. Though pleased, Im actually shocked you mentioned it.  The one time Ive ever seen it come up -  the Kennedy legal machine just destroyed the fellow who dared to, it was Ted's ex Admin Aide and they painted him as a mad man...

Id worked for the slob Ed for a year, and he couldnt of cared any less, but one night at a speech in san antonio, I  had a buddy and his pretty date with me...and Senator ted just had to have us join him in his suite....At first, I was so excited, but...oh, what a scummy jerk....and his team of sycophantic manipulative enabler pals...yuck... this was very soon after his nephew David had killed himself with Coke and here Ted and Jack know...and I bet you also know what happened to my friend and his date...

His son patrick is even more pathetic....well, if you took all that is pathetic outta Patrick, there wouldnt be anything left.

These people are elitists, fakes...snobs... I was ashamed to be part of their world.

The Clintons?  Dead opposites in all ways.  Very friendly, far from real and regular as ya can get.  Even when at 1600.  They inspire my loyalty, not demand it in payment for being allowed in their presence.

Thats how I feel about LBJ.  Yeah, he was  no smoothy.  Yeah, he hung with a non smooth crowd.  But he ACTUALLY cared about poor people, not pretended to in order to look noble.  And though he too had his 'daliences', he never humiliated his wife like all the Kennedys did to theirs.   I mean look at what happened to poor Joan.  Lordie!

Btw, there already was a very good hbo pic about LBJ.  John Frakenheimers last movie.  Good, sad and moving...starred the brit actor who is now the headmaster in Harry Potter!  

Are you in that odd world out thar yonder to the left?  Or as I like to call it, "DC without the good intentions"?
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by Seymour Glass 2008-02-01 03:19PM | 0 recs
Great diary!

It's really been disgusting to see Obama and ObamaBots screaming RACISM! where none exists and casting the Clintons as racists.

But empty suit Oblahma has so few original policies to diary...

by annefrank 2008-02-01 12:50PM | 0 recs
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I could have tol you that about some in the reality-base community a few years ago. That's why I sometimes call liberal bloggers "Blog Birchers" or "Little old lefties in tennis shoes".

by spirowasright 2008-02-01 12:51PM | 0 recs
Re: An ''Infuriated" Ted Kennedy
You're right about that!
Oh - and don't you mean DailyO?
by annefrank 2008-02-01 12:51PM | 0 recs
Re: An ''Infuriated" Ted Kennedy

As someone born in the 1970s, I often wonder about the nostalgia for the Kennedys. I like a lot of the Kennedy folks who are in public service now, including Ted Kennedy. But JFK was elected 47 years ago by now--isn't it time we move on to newer role models?

It was only recently, while reading Taylor Branch's Pillar of Fire, the second of his three volume biography/history of King, that I realized that there was a feud was between Johnson and the Kennedy family. I'd be extremely disappointed if Ted Kennedy allowed this half-century old disagreement to cloud his thinking at all. I hope it's not true.

by OrangeFur 2008-02-01 01:04PM | 0 recs
oh its true, so very true

the kennedy world is very strange and demands both a sycophantic slobbering loyalty to a far away past and a blind eye and a shrug to more recent and repeated present day disgraces.

by Seymour Glass 2008-02-01 01:36PM | 0 recs
Re: An ''Infuriated" Ted Kennedy

I've seen Ted Kennedy up close and personal when he received criticism from constituents.  He behaved like a prima donna and spoiled brat.  I have no doubt that his endorsement of Obama was triggered by the perceived "slight" to JFK vs. LBJ.  The Kennedys have elephantine memories and NEVER miss an opportunity for payback.

Ted does vote well and has been a very competent senator.  But there is something so self-centered about the Kennedy mystique--fueled by misplaced media adoration for sure, but ultimately members of that family have to be responsible for their own response to the historical distortions.

by Thaddeus 2008-02-01 02:15PM | 0 recs
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You know - I have never quite experienced the rudeness you write about. Now being a woman, they do have some very old fashioned ideas of how real "ladies" SHOULD behave and be seen but not heard.

Joan I feel so very sorry for. She really was one sweet lady.

by Grandma M 2008-02-02 06:55AM | 0 recs
Re: An ''Infuriated"

All you Kids...
You are 18-23 years old and would be "selected" to the Armed Forces and fight in Iraq/Afghanistan?

Imigine you are 19-23 years old. A democratic congress has changed draft laws. As a result a "lottery" is in placed based upon your Birthday.
If you "win" you would be forced into a designated military service and go to Iraq and Afghanistan,...

Us geezers and our friends lived through this...
Fuck LBJ and McNamara...

So many here have no F**kin clue what is was to be a male(and yes women were affected)by folks who are your parents...

The only positive thing LBJ did was not run for re-election 00

by nogo war 2008-02-01 02:58PM | 0 recs
in the lbj tapes

we now know it was the horrid advise from left over jfk aides that lbj followed.

twas a true tragedy for the nation and lbj and his presidency.

by Seymour Glass 2008-02-01 03:47PM | 0 recs
yes, JFK got us into that war

and there is no evidence whatsoever that he would not have continued the course just as LBJ did.

Seymour, I don't often agree with you, but it's just a fact that LBJ was ten times more effective in getting laws through Congress than JFK could have been.

by desmoinesdem 2008-02-01 04:48PM | 0 recs
I'm sorry he stepped down

even though he had no chance to win. I thought there was a benefit to keeping his message out there and giving voters in two dozen more states a chance to express their support for him.

by desmoinesdem 2008-02-01 06:46PM | 0 recs
Obama risks giving license to white racists

Obama has succeeded in inspiring black racism.  My fear is the  backlash when blue collar America lets its inner racist run wild. Only 20% of white voters have to participate in the backlash to sweep him away and set back civil rights in America.

by ineedalife 2008-02-01 03:01PM | 0 recs
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"Obama has succeeded in inspiring black racism"
please link to any info?
It's not that I believe you having 3 toes from cousin intermarriage in your background gives you this opinion....I just want to know any sources that influence your opinion...

( bet)

by nogo war 2008-02-01 03:14PM | 0 recs
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As reported by the Chicago Sun Times on Friday from South Carolina:

"Don't be hoodwinked. Don't be bamboozled," Obama told crowds several times during the day.

As a movie and Denzel fan, those words were very familiar to me.  Theyr'e from Spike Lee's Malcolm X.  I remember going to see that movie soon after Bill Clinton won in 1992.

They were the eternal words of Malcolm X regarding political maneuvering in the African American community


In my mind, I heard Denzel Washington proclaiming them,

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So I'm not here this afternoon as a Republican, nor as a Democrat...

So I have to stand here today as what I was when I was born: A black man.

Before there was any such thing as a Republican or a Democrat, we were black...

In fact, before there was any such place as America, we were black!

And after America has long passed from the scene, there will still be black people.

I'm gonna tell you like it really is. Every election year these politicians are sent up here to pacify us! They're sent here and setup here by the White Man!

"I say and I say it again, you've been had. You've been took. You've been HOODWINKED, BAMBOOZLED, led astray, run amok."

OH MY GOD! I KNEW I HAD HEARD THOSE WORDS BEFORE! But it wasn't just one word - "bamboozled" that had made my ears prick up and ask, Malcolm - is that you? So when I saw that both Spike's Malcolm and Obama had both said HOODWINKED, BAMBOOZLED, it became quite clear. It was two odd, rare and unique words used in tandem. So coincidence was OUT! Obama was sure as heck sending a clear message to the movie going public (the Spike Lee movie going public that is - if you know what I mean) of South Carolina.

Here Obama was channeling Spike Lee - channeling Malclom X! Now that's somethin'!

I Googled to see who in the national political media had written about the amazing fact that Obama had been quoting Malcolm X (as dreamed up by Spike Lee that is, Malcolm never gave such a speech, none of it, it's pure movie magic)around the state of SC at the moment that the entire national press corps was screaming like banshees about how awful and shocking it was that the Clintons just wont stop talking in dog whistle RACE CODE while campaigning!

As Steve M so clearly put it:

I buy that it is not a coincidence that Barack Obama is going around, the day before the South Carolina primary, repeating over and over two words that just happen to be a well-known quote from a movie speech where Malcolm X just happens to be warning the black folks not to trust white politicians who come into their community.

Look a it this way. Do  you think the press corps would look the other way if in her stump speech Hillary started quoting Gary Sinese playing the race baiting George Wallace in John Frankenheimer's bio-pic "Wallace'. Ya think?

by Seymour Glass 2008-02-01 03:52PM | 0 recs
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LOL..... It's quite amusing when someone outside  of a community tries to draw links that don't exist. It's true that Malcolm X made those words famous in tandem.
What also true is that any of those four words/phrases ..."HOODWINKED, BAMBOOZLED, led astray, run amok" have been used by Blacks in reference to a lot of things INCLUDING TALKING TO EACH OTHER ABOUT EACH OTHER! In reference to everything from school, life,                            cheating  spouses, used car salesmen and yes, even politicians, both (Black and White). It's no different than "The wool being pulled over your eyes"...

I truly suspect your post was just a thinly veiled  opportunity to display that 'Bamboozled" poster.
I am politely requesting that you take it down. It's quite offensive.  

by xodus1914 2008-02-01 04:17PM | 0 recs
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But there's more.  Seems "Bamboozled" means more to both Spike and Barack too! Theres actually a movie called 'Bamboozled', that was also directed by Spike Lee. I'm not hoodwinking ya folks!

Let's go to the pages of the academic quarterly, the "Literary Review" to consider the deeper meaning behind all of  this.

A Rhetoric Of Symbolic Identity: An Analysis Of Spike Lee's X And(1992) and Bamboozled (2000).



The film' Bamboozled' starts where Spike Lee's 'X' ends. The term bamboozled was used by Malcolm to illustrate white corporate America management, manipulation of ideology, and discourse within the public sphere. In the opening scene of Bamboozled, Malcom's voice is cleary heard, "you have been hoodwinked, bamboozled..."  The film centers on the "bamboozled effect" of blacks and how that, in turn, shapes and defies black identity.

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From Wiki:

Bamboozled is a 2000 satirical film written and directed by Spike Lee about a modern televised minstrel show featuring black actors donning blackface makeup and the violent fall-out from the show's success. The word "Bamboozled" means "purposefully confused, tricked or led astray".

The content is intended as satirical, with its show within a show featuring its characters, all in blackface, performing in a watermelon patch.


The script expresses rage and grief at media representations of black people, largely through the eyes of its moral center, Sloan Hopkins (played by Jada Pinkett Smith). Johnnie Cochran, and Al Sharpton (Cochran and Sharpton appear as themselves in the film, protesting the television series).


Pierre Delacroix , played by Damon Wayans, is an uptight Harvard-educated black man working for a television network that routinely rejects his proposals for what he sees as intelligent shows involving black people. He is further tormented by his boss Thomas Dunwitty (played by Michael Rapaport), a tactless, boorish white man who proudly proclaims that he is more black than Delacroix.


(Think Obama identifies with this movie a little?)

Facing the necessity of either coming up with a hit black-centric show or being fired, Delacroix decides to aim for the latter. If the network fires him, he rationalizes, it will release him from his employment contract, allowing him to seek work at another network. With help from his personal assistant, Sloan Hopkins (played by Jada Pinkett Smith), Delacroix decides to pitch a minstrel show, complete with black actors in blackface, in the belief that the network will reject such over-the-top racism and fire him on the spot.  To Delacroix's horror, not only does Dunwitty enthusiastically endorse the show, it also becomes hugely successful.

The film concludes with a long montage of racially insensitive and demeaning clips of black characters from Hollywood films of the first half of the 20th century.

Oh those damn Clintons.  Why do THEY have to keep bringing race into this campaign....


by Seymour Glass 2008-02-01 04:29PM | 0 recs
What did MLK think? Let's see...
The past record of the federal government, however, has not been encouraging. No president has really done very much for the American Negro, though the past two presidents have received much undeserved credit for helping us. This credit has accrued to Lyndon Johnson and John Kennedy only because it was during their administrations that Negroes began doing more for themselves. Kennedy didn't  voluntarily submit a civil rights bill, nor did Johnson. In fact, both told us at one time that such legislation was impossible. President Johnson did respond realistically to the sign of the times and used his skills as a legislator to get bills through Congress that other men might not have gotten through. I must point out, in all honesty, that President Johnson has not been nearly so diligent in implement the bills he has helped shepherd through Congress.
MLK  - published posthumously
by illlaw1 2008-02-01 08:57PM | 0 recs
Re: What did MLK think? Let's see...

Sorry. It's called "A Testament of Hope"

The entire work is on Google and is also called "A testament of Hope".

It was a writing of MLK from right before he died I believe but published after he was assassinated.

Here's a link.

by illlaw1 2008-02-02 07:07AM | 0 recs
Re: What did MLK think? Let's see...

So you disagree with MLK?

by illlaw1 2008-02-02 08:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama's Clearly a Dirty Fighter...

But he couldn't have accomplished any of this without a compliant anti-Hillary media. The coverage of Hillary Clinton in the media has been nothing short of criminal, in my view. Craig Crawford and Tom Brokaw appear to be the only political analysts these days willing to actually maintain some sort of balance.

I'm war weary from all of it.

I want this to be over. Two years is too long for a campaign process.

Do you know, that when Eisenhower announced his run for the Presidency, he announced it in JUNE--and that November was the election.

Think about that for a minute. This WHOLE thing is all about ratings and ad money for the corporate media. We desperately need publicly financed elections in this country.

by Tennessean 2008-02-02 03:12AM | 0 recs
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Agreed - Superlative Diary.

Water Hen, I too am amazed at how tiny the "Reality Based" community is in reality. I am also appalled at the lack of research and vetting the cultish like Bomb-Manics have done.

I grew up in a Kennedy Family. My father was one of their senior volunteers - he had a family of 4 kids to support and my mother hated politics. So dad made it a hobby, rather than a living.

I am absolutely livid at Kennedy's endorsement of someone who is turning out, with each day of research, to be more and more of a fraud.

Preserving Camelot? No Kennedy Killed it with his Endorsement.

JKF nor RFK would have allowed hundreds of people in Chicago to freeze in the winter for years on end. The wouldn't offer sop to Students with a measley $4,000/annum tax credit while allowing predatory lending to continue. They would not have allowed usurious rates on Credit Cards, knowing that Blacks, Latinos, Students, Working Poor and Middle Class hanging on by a thread would be the worst hurt. They would have objected to voting to have Discrimination Suits moved out of State Courts, and into the Federal System, to reduce the amount of damages allowed. And they emphatically would not have ever allowed the privitization of Social Security, upon which millions of children and disabled depend, not just the elderly.

I have never in my entire life being so horrified, or grieved so much, over Ted and Carolines support of Obama.

While I wish Bobby's kids had supported Edwards, at least they didn't support the Charlatan who supports the egregious actions in the above long paragraph about JFK and RFK.

by Grandma M 2008-02-02 06:45AM | 0 recs


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