Clinton Wins Popular Vote!

Barack Obama may have won more states, but the PEOPLE voted for Hillary Clinton. According to CNN, with results still pending in California and New Mexico, Hillary Clinton won 49% of the popular vote, while Obama came in at 48%.

Clinton's win in California will likely boost that to possibly 50%.

There is NO spinning it. The people have spoken and they want Hillary Clinton. This is what Democracy is about. One person, one vote.

Still the system is against Senator Clinton and it is delegates that matter.

So, now that it is increasingly clear Florida and Michigan delegates have an uphill battle, it is time for the voices of the PEOPLE to be heard. Restore our Democracy! Restore our Delegates!

Tags: Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton (all tags)



Re: Clinton Wins Popular Vote!

Didn't the NYTimes poll say Hillary was supposed to win 49-31% today? But the actual poll was a tie. Obama's going to be taking over the popular vote pretty soon if that poll was right. Probably by the end of February.

by Progressive America 2008-02-05 09:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Clinton Wins Popular Vote!

OTOH, he may have peaked outside the Deep South.  

After all, he represents no substance anyone can identify.

by killjoy 2008-02-05 09:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Clinton Wins Popular Vote!

This diary is shameless Clinton promotion but is all  more distasteful due to being based on factually incorrect premise. The Democratic nominee has to run in the electoral college system.   Winning the popular vote is useless as the 2000 election so starkly made clear.  

by Monkey In Chief 2008-02-05 10:44PM | 0 recs
If that is your standard....

then Obama should just go home. Hillary kills him on the electoral college map.

by ineedalife 2008-02-06 03:50AM | 0 recs
Hold new and real elections in FL and MI!

by NeuvoLiberal 2008-02-06 01:08AM | 0 recs
The good taxpayers of those states....

already paid for a primary. Take it or leave it. Obama's superior wisdom and judgement didn't help him very well there did it? Now he can use his superior wisdom and judgement to decide if it is better to participate in the disenfranchisement of two states, or give their delegates to their first choice, Hillary.

by ineedalife 2008-02-06 03:55AM | 0 recs
the delegations aren't going to count

On 5 October 2007, the DNC determined that the date of Florida's 29 January 2008 primary violates party rules and has decided to strip the state of its entire delegation.

On 1 December 2007, the DNC determined that the date of Michigans's 15 January 2008 primary violates party rules and has decided to strip the state of its entire delegation.

unless new elections are held.

by NeuvoLiberal 2008-02-06 07:25AM | 0 recs
Simple fact

You are not going to deny the winner of CA, MA, NJ, NY, Fl, MI, and most likely PA, and TX, the top of the ticket.

It is that simple.

You would have mutiny if you did.

by dpANDREWS 2008-02-06 02:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Simple fact

I could see how you could that Hillary won Florida, but to say that she won Michigan, where both candidates agreed not to participate and Barack Obama took his name off the ballot reeks of utter desperation.  

by gobacktotexas 2008-02-06 03:13AM | 0 recs
Re: Simple fact

My point is simple.

If this comes down to a brokered convention the states like CA, NY, MA, NJ, FL, MI, etc. are going to have a lot more power, a lot more say, than Idaho, Utah, and South Carolina.

MI and FL will have a say at the convention.  You can  count on it.  All the insiders are saying count on it.  Howard Dean when direction asked yesterday didn't deny it, he simply said it would be left up to a comittee to decide.

by dpANDREWS 2008-02-06 03:43AM | 0 recs
A question of wise judgement.

Obama smugly asserts that he has superior wisdom and judgement. He wisely judged to take his name off the ballot in MI. I think he would be wise to judge to live with the consequences of his actions.

by ineedalife 2008-02-06 03:58AM | 0 recs
I propose we break off Utah and Idaho

Make them their own country and let Obama be President of them.   Obamamaniacs can all move their and live Jim Jones style in peace and happiness sipping kool-aide.

by dpANDREWS 2008-02-06 04:05AM | 0 recs
Re: Clinton Wins Popular Vote!

Wait a minute, you started this diary with the premise that Hillary has less than one percentage point of the popular vote over Obama, so somehow the "people have spoken".

You know, that sounds like Bush with his 2004  51% win, and then calling it a 'mandate'.

All the Democratic Primary is showing us is that Democrats are pretty much evenly split.

And as far as those states that you love talking about, I don't think the MI delegates will be yelling that loud considering that she lost 2:1 to 'uncommitted'.
NY ? IL makes it a wash .

The simple fact here is that nothing major was resolved last night, besides Hillary moving forward in the delegate count, as expected, and Barack being less than 100 behind, (which was there goal) and Barack once again showing that he can win outside of the South. Besides Arkansas and Tenn, where she has ties, Hillary looks like she has no traction besides the coasts.

Even California looks suspect to me since a LOT of those votes were early, before the endorsements. Barack is picking up steam among Latinos, which is why NM is so close.

But I get Hillary plan. Count votes in states where Obama didn't campaign, and try to overemphasize  the states where voters made up their minds early before they actually heard Obama.
 It's a nice strategy, except that it crumbles over time.

by xodus1914 2008-02-06 04:07AM | 0 recs
Re: Clinton Wins Popular Vote!

Actually Obama sounds just like Bush with his talk of delegates. Heck, he's even running the Bush 2000 campaign with even the same themes.

by Ga6thDem 2008-02-06 04:24AM | 0 recs
Re: Clinton Wins Popular Vote!

What are you talking about? Hillary is talking more about trying to get the FL and MI delgates.

by xodus1914 2008-02-06 04:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Clinton Wins Popular Vote!

This is smart politics. Obama's campaign is killing their chances in these states in a GE with their strategy. A republican can go to FL and say "Obama doesn't think that FL matters." He can even show the memo that Obama's campaign put out about FL & MI not mattering. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

by Ga6thDem 2008-02-06 05:11AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama won No Win States-TOUGH

I don't know why Obama supporters don't see this. The fact that Hillary won in winnable states is much more important that Obama's win in sure to lose states. The only positive I can see out of this for Obama is a 1 pt win in MO.

by Ga6thDem 2008-02-06 04:22AM | 0 recs
Re: Clinton Wins Popular Vote!

Where is the link to vote totals?  The only total I have found shows Clinton leading by about 0.3% of the vote.  And the trend in the late California vote counts has clearly been going in Obama's favor.  So Clinton does not have the popular vote locked up for Feb. 5.  

If you want to see what a real diary looks like on this subject instead of the sloppy ones at mydd, check here: /6/63033/64761/644/450906

by Satya 2008-02-06 04:34AM | 0 recs
not only did she win

but many of the states were uncontested so she lost about 5 points:

illinois-- Hillary could have gotten an extra 5 points.


The real results are Hillary by about 7

by yellowdem1129 2008-02-06 04:44AM | 0 recs
Re: Add WV

All Hillary has to do is keep the 04 states, take back Iowa and New Mexico and add Arkansas = 270

by Safe at Home 2008-02-06 05:29AM | 0 recs


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