Obama and Wright: Campaign Position

Senator Obama, the Kos community, Kos himself, myself, have rightly been upset over Geraldine Ferraro's racially insensitive comments.  Now it's Reverend Wright's turn:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAYe7MT5B xM&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/stor y/2008/3/13/144147/075

The things he says speak for themselves, plain ugly. In my opinion, more divisive than anything Ferraro said.  

Now here is the question, I've heard a few people claim it doesn't matter because Obama's camp has said:

"Senator Obama has said repeatedly that personal attacks such as this have no place in this campaign or our politics, whether they're offered from a platform at a rally or the pulpit of a church," said Bill Burton, a campaign spokesman.

Or, Because, he has no official role in campaign...

BUT, he is no mere Reverand speaking from the pulpit, this from the Obama campaign's own press release:

CHARLESTON, S.C. -U.S. Sen. Barack Obama's campaign today unveiled its African American Religious Leadership Committee at both the national and statewide levels.

Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr.*
Senior Pastor
Trinity United Church of Christ
Chicago, IL
Senator Barack Obama's Pastor

*Endorsements from religious leaders are extended in their personal capacity, and not on behalf of any house of worship, organization or denomination.

Dated Dec, 2007
(SEQUENCE IS MINE)

Now... where can you spot the problems?

A. He should resign from such committee, or if it is not active, the Campaign should imediately rebuke his position according to this press release.

B. His sermon was given in the house of worship, potentially breaking the law, and repealing Trinity United Church of Christ 's tax exempt status.

Now some on here may question my motives to posting this story, as I am an HRC supporter.  But I post this to say that we should not stand for hypocrisy from either campaign, and that both campaigns can be held accountable for what they do with those officialy in in the campaign.

I'm not here trying to smear Obama's religion, or his Church. I'm here trying to apply one standard, and to put pressure on Obama to repudiate Wright's statements forcefully, as well as his position on campaign.  otherwise it's pure hypocrisy.

This isn't only in the interest of the primary, the General Election is equally important to me, no matter who the candidate is.

to quote Dkos' great leader:

It's inexcusable, and whatever Ferraro Wright says from here on out will be on Clinton's Obama's head.
Strikes Mine ;)

MORE:
This is an aside from the racial standards of the campaign, but further controversial statements from Wright that feed into an already existing Obama meme, more reason why Obama should strongly repudiate Rev. Wright, IMHO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzhl-endv co

Tags: Barack Obama (all tags)

Comments

22 Comments

Re: Obama and Wright: Campaign Position

If anyone can tell me how to embed videos, i'd be happy to do that, instead of just linking it

by rigsoHC 2008-03-13 11:48AM | 0 recs
you can't do it in the first attempt

save your diary (as you have already done) and then click the edit button.  cut and paste your url then, and click preview.  if you see your video, it worked.  click save or update.

btw, i don't agree with you that the videos that i've seen are damaging, but that's how you embed video...

by bored now 2008-03-13 11:58AM | 0 recs
Re: you can't do it in the first attempt

thanks for the video explanation. HOw do you get it so that you don't see the web address for a link, just text. I know how to do that in Word, but not on My DD.

by Enviro 2008-03-13 03:12PM | 0 recs
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re: B Tax exempt status...

Obama and Hillary  frequently speak at churches so I don't think you understand the law.

by JoeCoaster 2008-03-13 11:52AM | 0 recs
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the law doest apply to candidates speaking, it applies to the leadership of the party endorsing a candidate, I dont think its there yet, since the law must be hard to enforce short of "I Endorse ___"

by rigsoHC 2008-03-13 11:56AM | 0 recs
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No, you don't understand the law. Candidates can speak at church as long as the other candidates are invited as well. Until we have evidence that Hillary was also invited to speak, then they may well be in violation of the law.

by Little Otter 2008-03-13 12:41PM | 0 recs
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The things he says speak for themselves, plain ugly. In my opinion, more divisive than anything Ferraro said.

What's uglier is I haven't seen a single Obama supporter denounce it on this or other related diaries.
by zenful6219 2008-03-13 11:59AM | 0 recs
hey zenful (ironic that)

Wright doesn't speak for me and he does not speak for Obama. He is a minster speaking at a church.

And, yes,I do think his use of this kind of rhetoric during a campaign season has a real potential to hurt a man he clearly supports and also to be fundamentally misunderstood.

I'm not going to "denounce" Wright as you wish, but I am an Obama supporter stating those views.

But what I'd like to share is that I grew up in a multi-racial community, my neighbors went to African-American Churches and, though I'm white and I'm Catholic, I would visit sometimes. 99% of the preaching was about Jesus and Holy scripture. That gets lost in these selected, edited, inflammatory video clips, and that's a shame.

In my experience, African American Christian Churches talk about Jesus from the point of view of the African American experience of history. That's how it has been for almost 400 years.

I studied African American history with Eric Foner at Columbia University. He was quite clear. The role of the African American Church during slavery and segregation was profound. It was the only safe place, the only safe harbor, for Blacks to talk and share fellowship as African Americans. That tradition, of speech, of music, of rhetoric is a part of all of our heritage as Americans. And it's an old part. It goes way back.

There's nothing "shocking" about a Black preacher talking about racism in a perdominantly African American church unless you choose to make it shocking. The more you watch that video, in fact, the less shocking that video gets. Though there are still parts I disagree with and find hurtful.

Personally, when someone comes to me and tries to take the words of a pastor talking in a sermon and make them out to be damning of a candidate and a campaign. I have to step back a bit.

We could do the exact same thing with so many preachers and religions. To sow fear. To foment resentment. People did this to Mitt Romeny on his Mormonism. People did this to JFK and Al Smith on their Catholicism. People routinely use this kind of bigotry against Jews and Muslims. Fact is, this nation finds it easy to accept Episcopalian or Presbyterian faith in a president because our presidents have often professed those views. But would YouTube clips of the most edited and extreme moments of certain Methodist preachers or Baptist preachers be "comfortable" for everyone in the U.S.A.? No, of course not. That's why we have freedom of religion.

What I'm saying is that preachers saying things that would not come off well on YouTube should not be a surprising thing given our American Tradition. Most pastors are going to be saying things that are matters of faith and don't work well in our public political discourse.

Yes, I am not a fan of Rev. Wright's rhetoric because I think, as it comes off in these clips, it has the danger of conveying a message directly opposite to that of the Obama campaign and how Obama's book...the Audacity of Hope...characterized Barack and Michelle's deep and abiding faith in Jesus Christ. It also is a horrible way for people to be introduced to Rev. Wright.

But, yes, Barack Obama is African American and a Christian. He and his wife attend a predominantly African American church where preachers do talk about Jesus in the context of racism and African American identity and history. If you make YouTube clips of some of those sermons there will be things that some people will find uncomfortable or even divisive. And perhaps rightly so.

I think we should judge a candidate in America, however, by what they say in public and what they do.

Barack Obama's overarching message has been about what we can do when we come together to work on the problems that face us as Americans, about what brings us together.

That's why I support and continue to support him, even as I state that I'm not a fan of the tone of this rhetoric from Rev. Wright.

by kid oakland 2008-03-13 12:41PM | 0 recs
You studied with Foner?

Wow. I did my Ph.D. at Northwestern and have always admired Foner. In fact, his "Reconstruction" was the reason I went into academia.

Where are you now?

by elrod 2008-03-13 12:53PM | 0 recs
Re: hey zenful (ironic that)
Wrong.  
When someone attends for 20 years with those words ring in your ear it is a problem.  Obama also gave $20,00 last year to this church
by bradydundee 2008-03-13 01:00PM | 0 recs
The American tradition

is one of tolerance and religious pluralism.

We don't put religious tests on our politicians.

Demanding that a politician renounce their church is something that is simply against our tradition and fundamental political core.

We judge politicians by their public record and not their house of worship.

by kid oakland 2008-03-13 03:16PM | 0 recs
Re: The American tradition

 This my friend is not a house of worship. Show me where Jesus would have stated anything like this.

by gunner 2008-03-13 04:50PM | 0 recs
I do

I'm a militant Obama supporter and I think Jeremiah Wright is an asshole. I hope Obama publicly distances himself from Wright - even more than he has up to now. I'm sure that Jeremiah Wright is a much more complicated and compelling figure than the videos suggest. If you read Obama's book you can see Wright as much more inspirational than bigoted. But the face of Wright is the bigotry and Obama has to cut him off publicly.  

by elrod 2008-03-13 12:51PM | 0 recs
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I agree. Olbermann should do a Special Comment on this.  He is such a hypocrite.  I hope Olbermann's reverse race-bating backfires on him.  Wow- I used to be such a huge fan of his show, now I am in utter disgust.

by easyE 2008-03-13 12:00PM | 0 recs
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Great post, thanks. The "god damn america" on top of "first time I'm proud" and the failure to put his hand over his heart...there's no way this guy will ever be president. Dems should nominate Hillary and start uniting behind her canidacy.

by seattlegonz 2008-03-13 12:02PM | 0 recs
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Are you talking about Hillary Clinton who used officers as waiters on Air Force One and at socials?

by Spanky 2008-03-13 12:21PM | 0 recs
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so!!

by bradydundee 2008-03-13 01:01PM | 0 recs
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Wow.  Posting unsubstaniated right wing rumors here?

Quite an Obama-feat.

by TxDem08 2008-03-13 01:07PM | 0 recs
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Drive down any highway in the South and you'll see billboards saying "God damns America" or "God does not bless America." Why? Because of legal abortion. Jeremiah Wright is hardly the first pastor to go that route. And his 9/11 remarks are almost identical to Falwell's.

by elrod 2008-03-13 12:55PM | 0 recs
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I have no idea what you are trying to say -- that BO's pastor hates jewish people as much as falwell does? I'd argue that Wright and Falwell may use the same words except Falwell is talking about damning blacks, jews, and liberals and Wright is talking about damning whites, jews, and Hillary and Bill Clinton.

I don't think we want either of these voices to be advisers to our president.

by seattlegonz 2008-03-13 01:45PM | 0 recs
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i think to which church and pastor to hear is voluntary so with obama  worshipping this real racist makes him unacceptable to be president let obama explain why it dosent matter

by awayer 2008-03-13 01:35PM | 0 recs
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20 years isn't a lapse in judgment, it's a commitment.

$22,000 dollars isn't a just a commitment, it's an endorsement.

Rev. Wright isn't just a "senior adviser", he's a long time mentor.

by autumnal 2008-03-13 06:40PM | 0 recs

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