Clinton Resign: Free Speech Needs a Champion

Full disclosure: I am friends with Ray McGovern, and have never been prouder to be able to say so.

After being shamelessly distorted by the major media as an incident of "heckling," Ray McGovern, 27-year CIA veteran who has served under seven presidents, gave this interview (embedded below) to PressTV, the Iranian news agency, on the assault on him which left him bloody and bruised after he stood silently with his back turned at a Clinton speech.

McGovern, whose duties including delivering morning intelligence briefings to the president, is now a leading opponent of the wars. The 72 year-old McGovern was wearing a Veterans for peace t-shirt when he was assaulted.  The video captures the assault occurring before Clinton's eyes no more than 30 feet away, with her never batting an eyelash or breaking stride. The subject of the speech was freedom of expression.

McGovern had been standing silently with his back turned in silent protest. It was just as Clinton had delivered the line "...and then they pulled the plug," with a slight pause and smile, that McGovern was pounced upon. The now viral video shows McGovern being dragged out, which is when he utters his first words "So this is America?"

McGovern's silent protest was intended to shun Clinton, who he criticizes as someone who "never met a war she didn't like," citing her support for the invasion of Iraq, for the war in Afghanistan, and for her present leading role in beating the drum for an attack on Iran.

McGovern, a Vietnam Veteran, shows his trademark sense of humor in the interview, and describes the juxtaposition of the content of Clinton's speech with what was transpiring before her eyes as "Kafka-esque." The one thing McGovern has never laughed at is the suffering of people, on all sides, caught on the pointy end of the stick of American foreign policy.

A consummate gentlemen, McGovern reserves his harsh words for people in power. This is the manner in which he gained some measure of fame when he confronted Donald Rumsfeld in a press conference in 2006. To initial jeers from the audience, McGovern asked Rumsfeld a series of pointed questions about his statements before the Iraq invasion. Strangely enough, it was Rumseld the Neocon Republican who choose to engage him and stopped security from throwing him out. Rumsfeld shouts out to security "No no, let him stay..." when they began to close in on him.

McGovern told OpedNews:

"At the same [Rumsfeld] speech, there was a courageous guy who stood with his back to Rumsfeld the entire speech. They left him completely alone and he walked out at the end, unbothered. Four years later, things have changed.

As one would expect of McGovern, he does not dwell on the thugs who left him bruised and bleeding in a DC jail cell but asks immediately - "Who gave the order?" - and says this is the question which deserves an answer.

If he does not get this answer and satisfaction, HILLARY MUST RESIGN.

On this eve of a congressional vote to further fund the war in Afghanistan, citizens can show their solidarity with McGovern by demanding their congressmen co-sponsor the resolution put forth by Rep. Barbara Lee , which will stop all further funding of military operations in Afghanistan except those necessary to effect an orderly withdrawal, beginning immediately.

Statement of Sibel Edmonds on McGovern Beating

To Those Who Second-Guess Our Police State Status: Shame on You! I just received the following news and I am way too upset to write a coherent piece on this. Ray McGovern is a good friend of mine. We live less than 10 miles apart. Together we have participated in many events and protests. He is one of the most informed, articulate, gentle, peace-loving and peace-seeking human beings I’ve ever known…For me, this hits too close to home: My father was similarly brutalized by dictator regimes, and that was only the beginning, before it escalated to being tortured and having his toenails pulled out by the state police. Why? He was a doctor, a surgeon with an inquiring mind, and he spoke out whenever he could against dictatorships and for liberties. Participating in peaceful demonstrations, encouraging others to rise up for their rights, and reading authors such as Steinbeck (the American author black-listed there as ‘communist and anarchist’) landed him on the list of to-be-punished and pacified… Right now, at this point, all I have to say to those who second-guess our nation’s police state status is this: “Shame on you!” As for my irate minority friends over here at Boiling Frogs, please help disseminate this news, because the scum bag media won’t;’ thank you.

Excerpt from 2006 press conference with Rumsfeld:

Rumsfeld: It turns out there were not weapons of mass destruction McGovern: You said you knew where they were. Rumsfeld: I did not... McGovern: You said they in Tikrit, around Baghdad, and north, south, and west of there. Those were your words..." -Ray McGovern in a press conference exchange with Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld 2006

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VIDEO: PressTV Interview

 

 

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Tags: Ray Mcgovern, Hillary Clinton, Sibel Edmonds (all tags)

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14 Comments

FU*K Billy / Hillary Clintons --what a couple of pukes--just ask the poor moms who they cut from public assistance in 1996

These two are an Arkansas version of Bonnie and Clyde.  The Clintons ran all over the country touting the fact that they had reformed "WELFARE" and saved the nation. And he got re-elected in 1996.  Well, did that asshole go to Congress in 1997 and ask them to REFORM BILLIONAIRE WELFARE---hell no. In fact he rewarded Wall Street and big banks by bailing out the asian banks in 1998 and then on top of that he set in motion the biggest de-regulation of banks in 1999 which eventually led to the crash of 2007.

I once was a big Bill and Hillary fan. But I have come to believe that they WERE guilty of financial fraud in the Arkansas Silver River deal which Ken Starr said in the impeachment process.

by hddun2008 2011-02-20 05:45PM | 0 recs
You don't know what you're talking about

Just in time for President's Day, Gallup released a poll over the weekend indicating what the American people really think about those who have served as President:

http://republicanredefined.com/2011/02/19/gallup-poll-americas-greatest-president-is/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=gallup-poll-americas-greatest-president-is

Coming in #1 is--not surprisingly--President Ronald Reagan. Republicans and Reagan Democrats alike realize that he restored America's greatness, made America strong again, and fully understood American exceptionalism.....a concept which escapes the current White House occupant. But then again, it's becoming increasingly clear that Obama and his grim wife don't care about America, and that they really don't like us.

Lincoln came in second in the poll, and President Clinton placed third. Not bad for a guy who was impeached for purely political reasons. Bill Clinton's greatness will stand the test of time.

 

by BJJ Fighter 2011-02-21 11:58PM | 0 recs
RE: You don't know what you're talking about

Oh dear.

Let's just ignore that Reagan instituted economic policies that set off the exponential increase in income inequality that continues to this day.

Many of us think the term Reagan Democrats makes about as much sense as Franco syndicalists.  The fact that there are Reagan democrats indicates just how confused people are.

And spare us the Glenn Beck boilerplate about Obama hating America.  It's sheer propaganda.  Of course, if one doesn't actually have the ability to construct an argument, I guess that propaganda is all one has...

As for Clinton, some good and some bad.  N. Ireland very good.  Welfare reform, very bad.  Increasing the reagonomic increase in income inequality, potentially disastrous.

And he was indeed impeached for purely political reasons, by Reagan zealots who made hay out of the man's stupid and reprehensible behavior.  Not impeachable, but he gave Reagan's restless army the ammunition to obstruct.  Cost the nation precious time and money, so he doesn't get a full pass in my book.  But then, I think politicians are politicians, not saints or minions of the devil.

BTW, BJJ, where do you think Obama was born?

by Strummerson 2011-02-22 02:35AM | 0 recs
Those bad Clintons

Peace in Ireland

Calls for fair trade with China that would actually work (china has to provide same worker security and retirement nets or gets tarrif, so they pay their workers or us)

Calls for women's rights from a First Lady in China.

And 8 years of prosperity.

 

Grace as secretary of state even thought the rest of the administration is bush league.

 

Those bastards.

 

One man decides that his voice is suitable for a venue created by our nation for the secretary of state as though he were an equal and there are calls for her removal.

 

Free speech means you can have your own venue.  Free speech doesn't mean  you get to hijack someone else's venue.  If I showed up at obama's speeches with a megaphone to shout him down you would change your tune in a heart beat.

 

But I agree Obama should step down immediately over this.

Surely the buck stops with him right?

He is the president.

The 4 am calls aren't going to Hillary are they?

by donkeykong 2011-02-20 06:57PM | 0 recs
Those bad Clintons

Peace in Ireland

Calls for fair trade with China that would actually work (china has to provide same worker security and retirement nets or gets tarrif, so they pay their workers or us)

Calls for women's rights from a First Lady in China.

And 8 years of prosperity.

 

Grace as secretary of state even thought the rest of the administration is bush league.

 

Those bastards.

 

One man decides that his voice is suitable for a venue created by our nation for the secretary of state as though he were an equal and there are calls for her removal.

 

Free speech means you can have your own venue.  Free speech doesn't mean  you get to hijack someone else's venue.  If I showed up at obama's speeches with a megaphone to shout him down you would change your tune in a heart beat.

 

But I agree Obama should step down immediately over this.

Surely the buck stops with him right?

He is the president.

The 4 am calls aren't going to Hillary are they?

by donkeykong 2011-02-20 06:57PM | 0 recs
Wow, what a great comment thread

 

Oh wait.  That was changeagain90797.  Wouldn't want to paint Clinton supporters and admirers (and loyalists) with a broad brush now. Kind of a pot/kettle moment here... And for the record, I think this diary is asinine.  I do think that welfare reform was crap.  Just like some of Obama's corpratist policies are crap.  But to dismiss the Clinton presidency whole cloth and use it as part of an argument for Hillary to resign as SoS is just a steaming and aromatic heap of defecation.  Come on.  And Hillary has been clear about respecting peaceful protests and America's support of free speech and the right to assembly.  Things are very volatile right now, and any responsible administration has to both consider how things are unfolding and what is in America's best interests, and I mean material, political, and ideological interests. But hell yeah: "Fuck the Clintons!" "No, fuck Obama!" "No, fuck you -bot!" "No, fuck you -bot!" MyDD at its substantial best here.

And just in case you haven't been paying attention, and most haven't, Jerome couldn't care ANY less.  No substantive frontpagers.  No traffic.  No comments.  A buggy

 

interface that discourages any participation.  And a paste job from Taibbi about a 6-week-old-appointment.

First off, DAMN YOU, YOU ROYALIST ENFORCER THUGS!

Oh wait.  That was changeagain90797.  Wouldn't want to paint Clinton supporters and admirers (and loyalists) with a broad brush now.

Kind of a pot/kettle moment here...

And for the record, I think the prior comment is asinine too.  I do think that welfare reform was crap.  Just like some of Obama's corpratist policies are crap.  But to dismiss the Clinton presidency whole cloth and use it as part of an argument for Hillary to resign as SoS is just a steaming and aromatic heap of defecation.  Come on.  And Hillary has been clear about respecting peaceful protests and America's support of free speech and the right to assembly.  Things are very volatile right now, and any responsible administration has to both consider how things are unfolding and what is in America's best interests, and I mean material, political, and ideological interests.

But hell yeah:

"F@ck the Clintons!"

"No, f@ck Obama!"

"No, f@ck you -bot!"

"No, f@ck you -bot!"

MyDD at its substantial best here.

And just in case you haven't been paying attention, and most haven't, Jerome couldn't care ANY less.  No substantive frontpagers.  No traffic.  No comments.  A buggy interface that discourages any participation.  And Jerome posts a paste job from Taibbi about a 6-week-old-appointment.

For freaks sake.

 

by Strummerson 2011-02-21 01:11PM | 0 recs
Wow, what a great comment thread

 

Oh wait.  That was changeagain90797.  Wouldn't want to paint Clinton supporters and admirers (and loyalists) with a broad brush now. Kind of a pot/kettle moment here... And for the record, I think this diary is asinine.  I do think that welfare reform was crap.  Just like some of Obama's corpratist policies are crap.  But to dismiss the Clinton presidency whole cloth and use it as part of an argument for Hillary to resign as SoS is just a steaming and aromatic heap of defecation.  Come on.  And Hillary has been clear about respecting peaceful protests and America's support of free speech and the right to assembly.  Things are very volatile right now, and any responsible administration has to both consider how things are unfolding and what is in America's best interests, and I mean material, political, and ideological interests. But hell yeah: "Fuck the Clintons!" "No, fuck Obama!" "No, fuck you -bot!" "No, fuck you -bot!" MyDD at its substantial best here.

And just in case you haven't been paying attention, and most haven't, Jerome couldn't care ANY less.  No substantive frontpagers.  No traffic.  No comments.  A buggy

 

interface that discourages any participation.  And a paste job from Taibbi about a 6-week-old-appointment.

First off, DAMN YOU, YOU ROYALIST ENFORCER THUGS!

Oh wait.  That was changeagain90797.  Wouldn't want to paint Clinton supporters and admirers (and loyalists) with a broad brush now.

Kind of a pot/kettle moment here...

And for the record, I think the prior comment is asinine too.  I do think that welfare reform was crap.  Just like some of Obama's corpratist policies are crap.  But to dismiss the Clinton presidency whole cloth and use it as part of an argument for Hillary to resign as SoS is just a steaming and aromatic heap of defecation.  Come on.  And Hillary has been clear about respecting peaceful protests and America's support of free speech and the right to assembly.  Things are very volatile right now, and any responsible administration has to both consider how things are unfolding and what is in America's best interests, and I mean material, political, and ideological interests.

But hell yeah:

"F@ck the Clintons!"

"No, f@ck Obama!"

"No, f@ck you -bot!"

"No, f@ck you -bot!"

MyDD at its substantial best here.

And just in case you haven't been paying attention, and most haven't, Jerome couldn't care ANY less.  No substantive frontpagers.  No traffic.  No comments.  A buggy interface that discourages any participation.  And Jerome posts a paste job from Taibbi about a 6-week-old-appointment.

For freaks sake.

 

by Strummerson 2011-02-21 01:11PM | 0 recs
Gee Jerome...

Think you might want to simply bag on this "upgrade" and go back to the previous interface that doesn't bungle and duplicate our comments?  And I use 'our' very loosely here.  As there's barely a plural to justify this form of the 1st person.

Jack Landsman sure shook things up and kept 'em real bro...

by Strummerson 2011-02-21 01:29PM | 0 recs
Gee Jerome...

Think you might want to simply bag on this "upgrade" and go back to the previous interface that doesn't bungle and duplicate our comments?  And I use 'our' very loosely here.  As there's barely a plural to justify this form of the 1st person.

Jack Landsman sure shook things up and kept 'em real bro...

by Strummerson 2011-02-21 01:29PM | 0 recs
I guess the automatic double posts

do give the impression of traffic...

by Strummerson 2011-02-21 01:30PM | 0 recs
I guess the automatic double posts

do give the impression of traffic...

by Strummerson 2011-02-21 01:30PM | 0 recs
Quit talking to yourself, Strummy

You haven't learned anything during this sorry, misguided Obama Presidency. Why don't you try listening to yourself once in a while:

"Just like some of Obama's corpratist policies are crap"  

So apparently you've gone from the Obama "Amen chorus", to dumping all over him. While I'd like to say, "welcome aboard", some of us here at MyDD have longer memories. For two years, you fawned all over the annointed one, and bought into the entire "hope and change" agenda. But there is a major problem for assholes like you, Strummy: Obama and his agenda have been discredited at this point. And from Wisconsin to Florida, the hope and change bullshit is now being dismantled.

Go fuck yourself Strummerson. You are an asshole, and you don't know jackshit about politics.

by BJJ Fighter 2011-02-21 11:36PM | 0 recs
RE: Quit talking to yourself, Strummy

You have me confused with someone else.  Never part of any Amen chorus.  Always had a realistic view of both Clinton and Obama.  

http://mydd.com/dna/posts/58529

So save the name calling.  It just amplifies your lack of ability to formulate an argument.  Sorry that I simply don't conform to what you need me to be.  You've tried over and over and over to set me up as your straw man.  It's really quite sad.  So I don't think I'll go fuck myself.  But I do think it even sadder that you seem to think that calling me an asshole and setting yourself up as the arbiter of what I or anyone else knows about politics means anthing to me or anyone else.  

by Strummerson 2011-02-22 01:28AM | 0 recs
Also

rejecting some of Obama's corpratist policies as crap (along with Reagan's and Clinton's corpratist policies by the way) is hardly "dumping" on him.  I'd vote for him again and plan to.  I can't get the president I want.  You play the cards you are dealt.  Obama's a mixed hand, but a better one than most viable alternatives at present.

And Wisconsin?  Since when do you care about Labor?  I thought you were a reagan democrat.  Not exactly a pro-labor president in my book.

by Strummerson 2011-02-22 02:39AM | 0 recs

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