Washington Post defeated by Snopes.com

In a stunning move, thousands of hardcore Clinton supporters, upset their brethren are more interested in the Democratic party than their candidate, quoted an article from the Washington Post about Obama supposedly exaggerating his family's connection to John F. Kennedy.

Unfortunately for them, ten seconds of research would have prevented them (and the Washington Post) from looking silly!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/say what.asp

Snopes.com- a great resource, folks. Because remember- it's better to keep you mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. So said Mark Twain.

Tags: lie, obama, selma, silly, Washington Post (all tags)

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Re: Washington Post defeated by Snopes.com

Snopes does not even say the WAPO article is false. It says "multiple accounts".

I think you are very upset that both the Washington Post and ABC News are calling Obama on this lie.

by kingsbridge77 2008-03-30 10:37AM | 0 recs
Re: Washington Post defeated by Snopes.com

Heh. No, I'm amused so many Clinton people are grasping at straws, anything they can get, and trying to make it stick.

Did you actually even read the debunking? Or is Snopes.com part of the vast, Obama-conspiracy?

by ragekage 2008-03-30 10:47AM | 0 recs
Re: Washington Post defeated by Snopes.com

So, what lie are you claiming Obama didn't tell? Or what specifically are you saying is true that people have been claiming is false. We do know that the Kennedy's did not fund the first air lift out of Kenya - they funded the second one, and Obama's father was on the first.

What specifically are you saying Clinton supporters have gotten wrong?

by Little Otter 2008-03-30 10:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Washington Post defeated by Snopes.com

RTFA, my friend.

by ragekage 2008-03-30 10:49AM | 0 recs
Re: Washington Post defeated by Snopes.com

So, you're just here denying that he lied? He lied. he got busted. The Kennedy's didn't finance the air lift is father came over on. They financed one a year later. Obama lied - that is a fact.

by Little Otter 2008-03-30 10:52AM | 0 recs
Re: Washington Post defeated by Snopes.com

So, you didn't read the article?

A Senator John Kennedy (D-MA) was instrumental in financing that airlift. Geez, buddy, I could just feed you rope all day long.

by ragekage 2008-03-30 11:07AM | 0 recs
Re: Washington Post defeated by Snopes.com

Are you deaf or blind! BO said his father was here b/c of JFK's family. WTF!

by judas 2008-03-30 11:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Washington Post defeated by Snopes.com

However, it was in fact Senator John F. Kennedy, who, a few years before being elected president, arranged a grant for a scholarship program to bring Kenyan students to American colleges

by ragekage 2008-03-30 11:15AM | 0 recs
Re: Washington Post defeated by Snopes.com

Which has nothing to do with Obama's father. Obama's father came over in 1959.

So, are you just here to press a falsehood? is that your goal? Is to convince people that Obama's statement about the kennedy's financing his father's arrival in the US is true when the Obama campaign says it's false?

by Little Otter 2008-03-30 11:24AM | 0 recs
Re: Washington Post defeated by Snopes.com

...

Senator Kennedy. A few years before being elected President.

He was elected in 1960. To be the President. Hence, before that, he was in the senate from 1953 to 1960. So, uhm... where's the fault in logic here?

by ragekage 2008-03-30 11:28AM | 0 recs
HAHAHAHHHAHHA

And Little Otter doesn't respond after this pwnage

by Sbekele 2008-03-30 12:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Washington Post defeated by Snopes.com

Thanks for this.  I hope WaPo issues a correction.

by Hope08 2008-03-30 10:56AM | 0 recs
Re: Washington Post defeated by Snopes.com

No apologies. The obama campaign says that the story in the Washington Post is accurate and that Obama's father's arrival in the US predated Kennedy involvement in the airlift.

by Little Otter 2008-03-30 11:25AM | 0 recs
Re: Washington Post defeated by Snopes.com

even "Obama spokesman Bill Burton acknowledged yesterday that the senator from Illinois had erred in crediting the Kennedy family with a role in his father's arrival in the United States."  does that mean that you think obama's own spokesman also "looks silly"?  will you point him to snopes.com as well?  i'm sure he'll appreciate the 'head's up.'

by txyellowdawg 2008-03-30 10:58AM | 0 recs
Re: Washington Post defeated by Snopes.com

He probably meant Obama erred in using nuance. God knows how many people can't read into it. Pretty soon, all speeches will have to be the political version of "Jane and Dick".

by ragekage 2008-03-30 11:00AM | 0 recs
Re: Washington Post defeated
In case anyone doesn't want to click the link:
This would indeed be an anachronism, since JFK did not assume that office until 1961 and therefore could not have been instrumental in bringing Barack Obama's father from Kenya to the University of Hawaii in 1959. However, it was in fact Senator John F. Kennedy, who, a few years before being elected president, arranged a grant for a scholarship program to bring Kenyan students to American colleges:
In his command of the US political stage over the past year, Barack Obama has inspired many a comparison to John F Kennedy. Both young senators brought a lofty message, an appealing young family and a movie-star aura to the presidential race. But the two men forged a less known link -- before Obama was even born.

The bond began with Kenyan labour leader Tom Mboya, an advocate for African nationalism who helped his country gain independence in 1963. In the late 1950s, Mboya was seeking support for a scholarship program that would send Kenyan students to US colleges -- similar to other exchanges the US backed in developing nations during the Cold War with the Soviet Union. Mboya appealed to the state department. When that trail went cold, he turned to then-senator Kennedy.

Kennedy, who chaired the senate subcommittee on Africa, arranged a $100,000 grant through his family's foundation to help Mboya keep the program running.

"It was not a matter in which we sought to be involved," Kennedy said in an August 1960 senate speech. "Nevertheless, Mr Mboya came to see us and asked for help, when none of the other foundations could give it, when the federal government had turned it down quite precisely. We felt something ought to be done." One of the first students airlifted to America was Barack Obama Sr, who married a white Kansas native named Ann Dunham during his US studies.

by Becky G 2008-03-30 11:02AM | 0 recs
Re: GMFB

Well, Ironically BO gave a speech in AL that he was products of Civil Rightmovement which apparently fault statement. WaPo explained it very simply way those are UNtruth and LIED.

by judas 2008-03-30 11:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Washington Post defeated by Snopes.com

yawn

ZZZZZZZZ.

by a gunslinger 2008-03-30 11:16AM | 0 recs
Re: Washington Post defeated by Snopes.com

Why you little!

I'll sling YOUR gun!

...

Wait, I didn't mean it like that!

by ragekage 2008-03-30 11:18AM | 0 recs
Re: Washington Post defeated by Snopes.com

are we engaged now?

Wheee!

I was lulled to sleep not by your diary ...but by the need to have it posted.  I have grown weary of the straw-grasping.  I am trying so hard to be a voice of reason and moderation, but I am hopped on flu meds.

by a gunslinger 2008-03-30 12:15PM | 0 recs
Well, another 20 seconds might have found this

"Obama spokesman Bill Burton acknowledged yesterday that the senator from Illinois had erred in crediting the Kennedy family with a role in his father's arrival in the United States. He said the Kennedy involvement in the Kenya student program apparently 'started 48 years ago, not 49 years ago as Obama has mistakenly suggested in the past.'"

Has Bill Burton come out with a statement since this came out?  Is he denying that he said this?

by SluggoJD 2008-03-30 11:26AM | 0 recs
Re: Well, another 20 seconds might have found this

I gotta say, that IS pretty dumb. This has been debunked. Probably went into damage control mode too quickly- sloppy, and it makes them look bad.

Everyone, make note- I concede this point to Sluggo here.

by ragekage 2008-03-30 11:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Well, another 20 seconds might have found this

but rage, the snopes article doesn't prove anything. See xanamanax's comment, just below. Burton is now acknowledging that the evidence proves that JFK and his family only became involved with the Kenyan airlift program in 1960, not 1959. The Snopes piece does not address that at all.

Come on: we've got to be precise and exact when we put forth these kinds of claims, or it hurts our candidate.

by along 2008-03-30 12:35PM | 0 recs
Did you even read the Washington Post article?
It says the Kenndys did give $100,000 to help bring Kenyan students here but in 1960, after Obama's father came to the United States. What year does Snopes say the donation occurred? They don't. They say "a few years before being elected President" and the uncredited passage they site states that the Kennedys donated without giving a specific year. So how exactly does Snopes "defeat" the Washington Post?
by xanamanax 2008-03-30 11:56AM | 0 recs
everyone knows

this is nothing but an attempt to equate obama's story with the clearly fabricated tuzla story.

by highgrade 2008-03-30 12:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Washington Post defeated by Snopes.com

well i understand that the kool aid drinkers dont have a little sense to be ashamed with their orator but where is the so called non partisan press it seems their hate of mrs. clinton has no boundaries  

by awayer 2008-03-30 12:09PM | 0 recs

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