The Kennedy Drama Continues UPDATED 5X

From the NY Post:

Caroline Kennedy has told Gov. David Paterson that she is withdrawing her name from consideration to replace outgoing Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in the U.S. Senate, The Post has learned.

Kennedy cited "personal reasons," according to sources.

Her stunning move comes as sources revealed that Paterson had intended to appoint her to the now-vacant seat today.

Decision was prompted by concerns about Sen. Kennedy's health.

On Wednesday she called the governor, David Paterson, who is making the selection of who should succeed Senator Hillary Clinton. Her concerns about Senator Edward M. Kennedy's deteriorating health (he was hospitalized after a seizure during the inaugural lunch on Tuesday ) prompted her decision to withdraw, this person said. Coping with the health issues of her uncle, with whom she enjoys an extraordinarily close bond, was her most important priority; a situation not conducive to starting a high profile public job.

She was planning to issue a statement on Wednesday evening.

NY Times

How long before the PUMA's start celebrating?

Updated at 10:39 pm by psychodrew:

I walk away from my computer for a couple of hours and come back to find that Kennedy family sources are denying the story. Then, as I start writing an update, I go back to MSNBC only to find that the initial reports about her withdrawal were true.

ALBANY, New York - Caroline Kennedy has decided to withdraw her name from consideration for the Senate seat being vacated by Hillary Clinton, according to NBC News' Mark Murray.

Several newspapers had reported earlier Wednesday that Kennedy had taken herself out of consideration for the job, but were unable to confirm the decision with Kennedy herself. Murray said she was expected to put out a statement later Wednesday night.

The New York Times cited as its source a person told of her decision and reported that she called New York Gov. David Paterson to express concerns about the health of her uncle, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, who was hospitalized Tuesday after a seizure. A statement from Kennedy could come as early as Wednesday evening, the Times reported.

Updated at 11:20 pm by psychodrew:

Somebody on the Kennedy team needs to figure what is going on and issue a statement. This confusion only makes Caroline Kennedy look weak. The AP now reports that Kennedy hasn't withdrawn.

ALBANY, New York - Caroline Kennedy has decided to withdraw her name from consideration for the Senate seat being vacated by Hillary Clinton, according to NBC News' Mark Murray.

Several newspapers had reported earlier Wednesday that Kennedy had taken herself out of consideration for the job, but were unable to confirm the decision with Kennedy herself. Murray said she was expected to put out a statement later Wednesday night.

The New York Times cited as its source a person told of her decision and reported that she called New York Gov. David Paterson to express concerns about the health of her uncle, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, who was hospitalized Tuesday after a seizure. A statement from Kennedy could come as early as Wednesday evening, the Times reported.

At this point, I'm inclined to think that Caroline is out just becuase she wouldn't let this story hang out there like this if she really wanted the seat.

Updated at 12:05am by psychodrew:

Now the AP is reporting that Caroline is back in the race.

After wavering briefly, Caroline Kennedy renewed her determination Wednesday to win appointment to the U.S. Senate seat once held by her slain uncle, Bobby Kennedy, a person close to the decision said.

After her surviving uncle, Sen. Edward Kennedy, suffered a seizure on Inauguration Day, Caroline Kennedy had misgivings about taking on the new job, the person said, speaking to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to speak for Kennedy. Earlier in the day, The New York Times and New York Post reported that Kennedy had ended her monthlong bid to succeed Hillary Rodham Clinton, who was confirmed as secretary of state.

MSNBC also reported that a person close to Kennedy denied that she was out of the running.

Spokesmen for Caroline Kennedy and for Gov. David Paterson, who will make the appointment to fill the Clinton seat, wouldn't comment.

The hours of mixed signals were the latest twist in the Kennedy effort, which began with popular support that withered after she drew criticism in her brief tour and early press interviews.

Final update at 6:45am by psychodrew:

It's official. She's out. It appears that last night's confusing was due to her wavering.

Caroline Kennedy announced early Thursday that she was withdrawing from consideration for the vacant Senate seat in New York, startling the state’s political world after weeks in which she was considered a top contender for the post.

Ms. Kennedy on Wednesday called Gov. David A. Paterson, who will choose a successor to Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, to inform him that she was no longer interested.

“I informed Governor Paterson today that for personal reasons I am withdrawing my name from consideration for the United States Senate,” Ms. Kennedy said in a statement released by her public relations firm.

SNIP

Her decision appeared to catch the governor off guard, throwing the Paterson administration into confusion and setting off conflicting news media reports. After frantic talks between the governor’s operation and Ms. Kennedy’s camp Wednesday evening, Ms. Kennedy appeared to waver on whether to withdraw, and was preparing a statement reasserting her interest in the job. But just after midnight, she decided to make clear she was taking her name out of consideration and released the statement saying so.

I think that last night's confusion shows that Caroline just really wasn't ready for this job. She wanted out, then she wanted in, and then she wanted out. Her staff let the story and the confusion float around out there for several hours. I think that what this--and the Illinois debacle for that matter--clearly shows is that governors should not be choosing senators. This is America, where we have elections. If we can hold a snap special election for an open House seat, then we can do the same for an open Senate seat.

Updated at 5:25 pm on 1/22 by psychodrew:

The drama continues. According to the NY Times, tax problems and something with a housekeeper brought an end to her bid.

ALBANY — Problems involving taxes and a household employee surfaced during the vetting of Caroline Kennedy and derailed her candidacy for the Senate, a person close to Gov. David A. Paterson said on Thursday, in an account at odds with Ms. Kennedy’s own description of her reasons for withdrawing.

The account emerged 14 hours after Ms. Kennedy announced that she was taking her name out of contention for the Senate seat vacated by Hillary Rodham Clinton, and as Mr. Paterson, according to two well-placed Democrats told of his thinking, was leaning toward selecting Representative Kirsten E. Gillibrand, an upstate lawmaker in her second term in Congress.

And now there's a rumor that Donna Brazile may be Hillary's replacement.

Tags: Caroline Kennedy, Senate (all tags)

Comments

101 Comments

by brit 2009-01-21 02:30PM | 0 recs
Re: How about...

Just for fun, I went to no25sense to read all the angry tortured posts after the inauguration.  You should have seen the horrible things they were writing about Teddy over there.  I won't even repeat it.  Those people are BATSHIT fucking crazy.

by psychodrew 2009-01-21 02:35PM | 0 recs
Re: How about...

That was brave. I hope you wore your golf shoes. But come to think of it, I went to Alegre's corner, so we both like the sounds of heads exploding.

by brit 2009-01-21 02:40PM | 0 recs
Re: How about...

I was wearing a tinfoil hat and a garlic necklace.  I also waited until I didn't have any more reading to do, in the event that my IQ suffered a temporary loss.

by psychodrew 2009-01-21 02:41PM | 0 recs
Nice way to relax actually...

They say that the body needs to cool to fall asleep (that's why baths work). So perhaps visiting these sites lowers the IQ to room temperature, and helps unconsciousness ensue.

by brit 2009-01-21 02:46PM | 0 recs
oh, stop!

AC has good policy stuff and the primary is sooo over.  I didn't want Caroline either, just didn't think she had enough public exposure, and turns out that was prescient - she should have known her own tax and worker problems.  Enough amateurs, that's what I say. She was at least in retrospect clearly unprepared, give some of us the credit of seeing that early?  

by anna shane 2009-01-22 12:34PM | 0 recs
Re: oh, stop!

The primary is over.  We're long over it.  Many of the people at AC are not.  And it's sad.

by psychodrew 2009-01-22 12:45PM | 0 recs
Re: oh, stop!

not many, not any that I've noticed.  I'm posting there again, and I'm not getting shooed off.  There are no Barack cheerleader posts, but he gets praise for what he's done and he gets hope he'll do this or that too.  I never read a post there about MYDD or any anti-pumas, they don't mention any of you.  This is time to look in the mirror, or admit you have an obsession? (no insult intended)

by anna shane 2009-01-22 12:54PM | 0 recs
Re: oh, stop!

Oh no, that's not at all insulting.

by psychodrew 2009-01-22 01:12PM | 0 recs
lol
yeah, thats why you are obsessing about AC, PUMA's and CK and they are not?
Honey, it is you who can not seem to move on.  Maybe if you would stop trying to register and post there?
by Teacher1956 2009-01-22 01:05PM | 0 recs
Re: lol

The Queen banned me last fall because I questioned the integrity of PUMA leaders who lying about how much money they had raised for Hillary Clinton.  I re-registered under a different handle ONE TIME to post a comment (which I signed with psychodrew) in a diary that was written to call ME a traitor.

by psychodrew 2009-01-22 01:10PM | 0 recs
mixed.

on this - its a bit disappointing but maybe caroline will have caught the 'political bug' and run in 2010?

by canadian gal 2009-01-21 02:30PM | 0 recs
Re: mixed.
why would it be disappointing?  Don't you think women can achieve in politics without being appointed?  Wouldn't it be better if some woman who has actually run for office and shown up to vote on a consistent basis be appointed to the seat?
If CK cares about serving she can run for congress or the state senate and get her feet wet.  It would be different had she even played a public role in anything besides her family charities.  For instance Hillary never ran for office before running (RUNNING) for that seat, but she played a very public role in policy and politics even before she was married to Bill.
by Teacher1956 2009-01-22 01:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Breaking: Caroline Kennedy is out!

I certainly did not hide my reservations to Kennedy's appointment to the seat and I must be honest, this news is a welcomed surprise. However, I do hope President Obama finds a suitable position for her, whether it involves education, or it is an appointment to St. James Court. Kennedy did not make the impression on me as it did on others in the Democratic Party, but certainly, she has my respect.

by RJEvans 2009-01-21 02:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Breaking: Caroline Kennedy is out!

If she withdrew because of her uncle's health, I don't see her taking any position in government for the time being.

by psychodrew 2009-01-21 02:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Breaking: Caroline Kennedy is out!

she wanted to spend more time with her kids......

by Teacher1956 2009-01-22 01:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Breaking: Caroline Kennedy is out!

Thank fucking God! I wanted Cuomo or Gilibrand for this job, and this ensures that Paterson won't pull a fuck up like the Govs from IL and CO.  

by bsavage 2009-01-21 02:38PM | 0 recs
Drew

What did I say about heads exploding?

by brit 2009-01-21 02:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Drew

WTF? I voted for Obama!

by bsavage 2009-01-21 02:43PM | 0 recs
Sorry

It was just the tone. And the implication of the 'chicago way'. Hope you can see how I made the mistake.

by brit 2009-01-21 02:44PM | 0 recs
At least it's not messy.

When empty heads explode, there isn't much to clean up!

by psychodrew 2009-01-21 02:43PM | 0 recs
Bizarrely..

...some of those heads have sense in them.

This, from a poster, on the same Alegre's Corner diary I reference upthread:

I think she was always meant to get Ted's seat, because I believe very strongly it was TED who was Obama's first VP pick.  She was going to assist him in double teaming on passing a lasting KENNEDY piece of legislation....like universal health-care. But with Ted's severe health development, his being VP was not feasible.

Truly, some machinations were in the works for finding a spot for her so that regardless, two Kennedy's were on the Senate floor making sure to push through a lasting Kennedy legacy, beyond the tragedies.

by brit 2009-01-21 02:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Bizarrely..

That's too trite to pass muster even as a teleplay for a movie of the week.

And by the way, the man on the grassy knoll was OJ.

by Strummerson 2009-01-22 07:08AM | 0 recs
Don't shoot me

I'm just the piano player

by brit 2009-01-22 07:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Don't shoot me

No, No.  Not you.  You're beautiful and brilliant!

by Strummerson 2009-01-22 07:42AM | 0 recs
Shucks. I'm blushing now n/t

by brit 2009-01-22 02:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Breaking: Caroline Kennedy is out!

Not a reply to you just wondering who got banned.

Are people getting banned around here?

That would be grrreat.

by spacemanspiff 2009-01-22 05:36AM | 0 recs
Re: Breaking: Caroline Kennedy is out!

Haven't seen Mumbai or Moscow recently. They had two nasty Islamophobic diaries early Monday, which miraculously - and I mean that word advisedly - disappeared.

by brit 2009-01-22 02:17PM | 0 recs
I must admit

that watching the PUMA heads explode is an immense joy.

by Charles Lemos 2009-01-21 02:45PM | 0 recs
Re: I must admit

Charles, I asked you this in another thread, but you would not respond, are you the same charles lemos who was a front page poster at NO Quarter and who said "I will not be voting for Obama under any circumstances"?

by venician 2009-01-22 08:59AM | 0 recs
Re: Breaking: Caroline Kennedy is out!

Great GO PUMAS YOU DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by obama4presidente 2009-01-21 02:47PM | 0 recs
Maybe they did...

What do you think they put in Senator Kennedy's food?

We should be told.

by brit 2009-01-21 02:49PM | 0 recs
More people than just the PUMAs

thought there were better options.

Unlike the PUMAs, though, I have absolutely nothing negative to say about Ms. Kennedy--I just didn't like the circumstances.  Should she run for office in the future, I'd be eager to support her.

by Geekesque 2009-01-21 02:59PM | 0 recs
Re: More people than just the PUMAs

I agree.  I've always respected her and would eagerly vote for her.  I just think it shouldn't be handed to her when there are more experienced people who have worked in politics for years who could be considered.

by orestes 2009-01-21 03:25PM | 0 recs
Congratulations, jerks

Way to kill a perfectly fine appointee with pure, irrational hatred and unreasonable standards.

Sigh.

by Dracomicron 2009-01-21 03:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Congratulations, jerks

Who are the jerks you are blaming?  Do you really think a few people on the internet had anything to do with this?  Her polling numbers in NY were not very good and there wasn't much ground support for her here.  This looked like a political prize for a well-connected person (a Kennedy, no less).  It didn't sit well with a lot of people, me included.  I respect Caroline Kennedy and I think she would probably be a good politician, but I believe she should earn it.  Let her campaign for a political position, make her case to the people, put in her dues.  Then I think she would receive a warmer reception.  Look, we NYers elected Hillary, despite the carpetbagger criticisms, because she hustled to win.  (Granted, she had the Democratic political establishment behind her, which bumped Nita Lowey out of the way, but at least she made a case to vote for her.)

by orestes 2009-01-21 03:32PM | 0 recs
The whole wad of jerk that axed her

The overly concerned media, the bloggers, the pumas, the entire kit and caboodle of petty jerks that did this.

Of course her numbers fell, the media did a hit job on her and she wasn't ready to handle it the way Obama was.

I don't see why her being a Kennedy means that she has to earn an appointment by doing more than any "normal" person.

by Dracomicron 2009-01-21 03:49PM | 0 recs
Re: The whole wad of jerk that axed her

I think your perspective might be a bit off.  Do you live in NY?  I do and I did not see a hit job on Kennedy.  And I also didn't see any concerted effort by the groups you mention.  Granted, I did not follow this issue closely at all (just the articles in the local papers), but I think that puts me in line with most NYers.  Furthermore, I do not think that her being a Kennedy means she has to earn an appointment.  It's quite the contrary (don't you see?).  I believe whomever is given the appointment should have earned it.  I believe in a meritocracy.  The point of my example was to demonstrate that, rather than being held to a higher standard (I don't know how your logic gets you there), she is held to a lower standard than my friend Vinnie who has the same qualifications.  The reason was she was considered and he was not is not because one is more deserving, but because one is privileged and the other is not.  I think we should remove privilege from the mix when making decisions.  

I think you are not being rational about this, which is fine.  There are plenty of others who are being equally irrational in their hostility towards Caroline.  To me, you cancel each other out.  

by orestes 2009-01-21 04:15PM | 0 recs
Here's the thing

There've been a lot of appointees over the years that were less qualified than Kennedy is now.  She's a fine choice.  "Winning in 2010" isn't a requirement for an appointee unless the governor makes it one.  Anyone who has followed Kennedy knows that she's a fast learner and a good judge of character when selecting people to help her or others (Hello?  Joe Biden?).

Nobody was given the press coverage or hand-wringing of Kennedy, not even Cuomo, another legacy.

I'm actually against legacies in politics, but Kennedy is qualified on her own merits to be an appointee, and could very well turn out to be a strong politician, with proper preparation.

by Dracomicron 2009-01-22 04:19AM | 0 recs
Re: Here's the thing

The "there have been worse selections" argument is never a winning one.  It's the argument we've heard over the past eight years (along with, who would have known...).  And it's not really responsive to my point.  I also don't think the selection of Joe Biden demonstrates anything re her skills.  I have nothing against Biden, but I believe he was picked for demographic reasons.  There's nothing wrong with that.  The tone of your earlier e-mails was much more dramatic and accusatory.  They certainly gave me the impression that you think Kennedy is an exceptional choice, rather than just qualified.  

by orestes 2009-01-22 06:08AM | 0 recs
Re: The whole wad of jerk that axed her

Don't you think Kennedy herself helped axe her own nomination? Her inability to articulate policy stands and her spotty voting record hurt much more than anything anyone on this or any other blog did.

by Mayor McCheese 2009-01-22 05:39AM | 0 recs
Re: Her numbers were fine in December

You are the inside source on this one, but the stories up until the last couple days had sure been suggesting that Paterson hadn't wavered on Kennedy one bit.  Tonight's development is really weird.

by Steve M 2009-01-21 07:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Congratulations, jerks

huh?  Wow, the PUMAs must be very powerful.  Imagine, years ago they got her to hardly ever vote, stay out of politics, and commit some sort of tax illegality so that low and behold in 2009 CK would have to drop out of contention for a seat in the US senate she wanted to be appointed to for no other reason than having the name Kennedy.

by Teacher1956 2009-01-22 01:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Breaking: Caroline Kennedy is out!

Jesus, did I miss something? Why the lovefest for Caroline Kennedy? You know, she hasn't been elected to public office or served in the executive branch either. Her poll numbers were weak and she ran a horrible campaign. Her only qualifications were her last name. Why the shock and disappointment?

by bsavage 2009-01-21 03:19PM | 0 recs
No lovefest here...

Just a reasonable appraisal. Oh. And an ironic take on the 'hatefest' evident elsewhere. You have a problem with that?

by brit 2009-01-21 03:22PM | 0 recs
"campaign?"

Why would she run any sort of campaign for an appointment?

If you believe that her last name is her only qualification, you haven't paid very close attention to her.

by Dracomicron 2009-01-21 03:51PM | 0 recs
Why?

Why did she need to campaign? To prove to Gov. Patterson that she could win a state-wide campaign in 2010 and again in 2012 so that the seat could be retained by a democrat.

IMO, she proved herself to be a good public servant and a horrible politician. You may think it unfortunate that the latter is a requirement; I'd probably agree. But regardless, that is a necessity.

by fsm 2009-01-21 06:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Breaking: Caroline Kennedy is out!

I have to think that the story is a smokescreen and that she realized that she wouldn't be picked.

by rfahey22 2009-01-21 03:23PM | 0 recs
Olbermann just said that she didn't withdraw

So maybe the haters didn't win after all.

by Dracomicron 2009-01-21 03:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Breaking: Caroline Kennedy is out!

You might want to update. The Post is now saying that she withdrew "after learning that Patterson wasn't going to choose her."

by LakersFan 2009-01-21 03:59PM | 0 recs
MSNBC is right now reporting that

Caroline Kennedy have not withdrawn her candidacy...

by louisprandtl 2009-01-21 04:23PM | 0 recs
by louisprandtl 2009-01-21 04:26PM | 0 recs
I wish I could Spoof MSNBC...

I'd like to post a fake MSNBC page over at Alegre's hellhole with the headline:

NY Senate Shocker: Donna Brazille gets the appointment!

Fun to watch the Puma collective head explode!

by WashStateBlue 2009-01-21 04:53PM | 0 recs
Re: I wish I could Spoof MSNBC...

That would be too much fun!

by psychodrew 2009-01-22 04:58AM | 0 recs
How's this?

Photobucket

by psychodrew 2009-01-22 09:07AM | 0 recs
Re: How's this?

Wow, that's totally hilarious.  Nice one!

by Steve M 2009-01-22 09:11AM | 0 recs
Re: How's this?

This is diary worthy awesome snarkalicious.

by spacemanspiff 2009-01-22 10:25AM | 0 recs
Re: How's this?

Ooooohhhh.  That. Is. Awesome!

by fogiv 2009-01-22 10:39AM | 0 recs
excuse me?

the primary is over, AC has some great policy stuff, Barack has won and he's president and Hillary is our SoS and AC was never a PUMA site?  There are worse opinions expressed right here.  I didn't like what some were posting over there, but there is no place I like what everyone posts.  Even Algere herself kept saying no McCain.  

and I didn't like Caroline getting it, I'm an old lefty, still believe that people ought to earn public trust, by being public with their abilities and getting votes.  I don't think anyone who had never run for office should be appointed a Senator, no more than Caligula's horse should.  Plenty of early Barack supporters didn't want Caroline to get appointed either.  This is not an old primary puma issue. There are no primary puma issues left, Barack is president, we did unite.  

by anna shane 2009-01-22 12:48PM | 0 recs
You united Anna....

But I also remember how the bulk of AC's corner treated you on the days just before the election. And what with their constant invoking of Karma for Richard, or 'time wounds all heels' for Caroline Kennedy, they still have a long list of dems they seek for retribution. There is the occasional good policy thing - hidden amidst the vineyards of sour grapes. I don't think a reasonable discussion can be had there - that's supposing your not immediately banned anyway.

by brit 2009-01-22 02:24PM | 0 recs
Re: You united Anna....

but who cares, you were the one that said give it time. There are some really great posts these days, on issues, things that matter to all of us, on AC, and very little back biting or recriminations.  It's very positive, very very.  

I want single payer, and I don't want privitization of any part of social security, and I want an end to the expansion of Israel (and on AC just like MM there are disagreements).  

I like Barack's philosophy, I'm glad he's giving symbolic empathy to those on the far right, they're people too (many in my family, maybe they'll start talking to me again).  

But I didn't like Caroline going for that senate seat, and it had nothing to do with Barack and everything to do with entitlement and lack of preparation and no public record.  I want our representatives to be more professional, more experienced, more transparent.  And it turns out i was right about her, she had a nanny problem? and she didn't know that was something that would bite her? How much time and money has she wasted going for a job she didn't vet herself for?

And if she'd gotten it, it would have been over protest, which would show she had some grit. If you don't have grit, how can you stand up to fellow senators, who are very good at getting other's to go along with them.  

We need the brightest and the best, we need the most experienced, those who have proven ability.  She just was not up to the job and it was clear from early on.  That's not PUMA, that's reasoning.  

by anna shane 2009-01-22 02:48PM | 0 recs
Ah, the PUMA method for candidate choice
In order of decreasing importance:
  1. Does X oppose (derogatory nickname for Barack Obama)?
  2. Does X have a vagina?
  3. Did X support Our Girl?
  4. Is X in Darragh Murphy's good graces?
  5. (optional) Does X agree with my on any policies?
by username 2009-01-21 05:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Breaking: Caroline Kennedy Drama UPDATED

I really hate all this PUMA this and PUMA that around here. Everyone who oppose Kennedy's appointment is automatically classified as a PUMA, which is just no the case. I have been highly critical to the PUMA, but I also do not support Kennedy's appointment because I believe there are far more qualified New Yorker's who have served New York. Kennedy is only a candidate because of her name, not her qualifications. So, stop lumping people into a group for the sake of venting your anger and frustration.

by RJEvans 2009-01-21 06:13PM | 0 recs
Yes, but RJ...

This site, outside of the slop-pot of the actual Puma Sites, IS home to more Puma Flybyes, Puma Droppings, Puma sympathiszers then any other politic web site.

You don't get Caro or Nancy or the like on Kos, or Huffington or FireDog, etc...They don't go there, they aren't allowed to post their Jim Jones flavored cult of self immolation with impunity like here.

Any drivel like the daily crap-fests Caro posts would be wiped off any current political site in seconds?

Only MyDD is an assumable democratic web site that is STILL a partial safe zone for the insanity that is Puma...

by WashStateBlue 2009-01-21 09:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Yes, but RJ...

oh, grow up, just cause you're cute and can cook is no reason to be a fathead.  The primary is soooo over!!!

by anna shane 2009-01-22 12:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Yes, but RJ...

so go post at dkos, the Obama force is all in goose-step there and you should be much happier.

by Teacher1956 2009-01-22 01:18PM | 0 recs
psychodrew on your update:

It is Patterson's fault, he completely fucked uo this process. at least blogo at ledast could appoint a senator. Patterson seems to be out of it as far decision making is concerned.

The report that Kennedy is out is FALSE!  :D

Definitive AP Report:

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) -- After wavering briefly, Caroline Kennedy renewed her determination Wednesday to win appointment to the U.S. Senate seat once held by her slain uncle, Bobby Kennedy, a person close to the decision said.

After her surviving uncle, Sen. Edward Kennedy, suffered a seizure on Inauguration Day, Caroline Kennedy had misgivings about taking on the new job, the source said, speaking to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to speak for Kennedy. Earlier in the day, The New York Times and New York Post reported that Kennedy had ended her monthlong bid to succeed Hillary Rodham Clinton, who was confirmed as secretary of state.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/C AROLINE_KENNEDY?SITE=OKOKL&SECTION=H OME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

by YourConcernsAreNoted 2009-01-21 06:38PM | 0 recs
Re: psychodrew on your update:

The part where Caroline Kennedy's own spokesman wouldn't comment must make the story super-duper-definitive!

by Steve M 2009-01-21 06:43PM | 0 recs
Maybe not

But every other source is wavering right now or don't have updated info.

Maybe she doesn't want to comment becuase she wants to find out how the fuck this happened first and how to respond to it.(if it was a misinformation)

P.S. That loser Patterson could also weight in as well but he probably need many hours to make up his mind on what to sayt. he is giving bad rep to the disabled people atm, many of the disabled could have done a better and a faster job (heck even Blogo picked a senator, and some call him insane).

by YourConcernsAreNoted 2009-01-21 07:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Maybe not

All I see are a bunch of different anonymous sources saying different things.

by Steve M 2009-01-21 07:04PM | 0 recs
No other recent source

is as definitive in language. also David Gregory was pretty definitive too. I err at the side of AP rather than NYP (gossip news) and NYT (Caroline haters, plus who can forget their printing of fake french Mayer letter slamming her)

by YourConcernsAreNoted 2009-01-21 07:15PM | 0 recs
Re: No other recent source

I think this might be the definitive story.  Although at this point I'm not prepared to take anything for granted.

Caroline Kennedy says she is dropping out of a bid to win appointment to the U.S. Senate seat once held by her slain uncle, Bobby Kennedy.

In a statement released early Thursday, she says she told Gov. David Paterson that she is abandoning her attempt to succeed Hillary Rodham Clinton for personal reasons.

by Steve M 2009-01-21 07:52PM | 0 recs
OMG

Why aren't her media people all over this?  Why are they letting this hang out there?  It doesn't make her or Gov. Patterson look in charge or in control at all.  I wish the governor would just appoint someone so we can all move on with our lives.

by psychodrew 2009-01-21 07:00PM | 0 recs
I know right!

By now he has offended MANY people prob including Pres Obama. What a dolt.

P.S. your last yahoo source has redone its story with the AP info I linked.

by YourConcernsAreNoted 2009-01-21 07:05PM | 0 recs
Re: I know right!

I was updating the story as you were writing this comment.

What a night!  They all look like amateurs.

by psychodrew 2009-01-21 07:06PM | 0 recs
haha

So right!

Roberts had to redo the oath (that he flubbed) too tonight!

The night of armatures! Gov. Patterson should know better after years in the office. so should the constitutional A grade lawyer Roberts.

by YourConcernsAreNoted 2009-01-21 07:12PM | 0 recs
What's wrong with you people?

I'm thrilled that David Paterson made the right decision and shocked that so many people seem to be disappointed or even upset.  It's not like the alternative is a Republican; the alternative (whomever Paterson chooses from the strong Democratic ranks in New York) is certainly a duly elected and experienced public servant.  And, unlike Caroline, it will be someone who doesn't struggle to, you know, form a simple declarative sentence when speaking to the press.

And how about taking a little pride in your party and your country and demanding that your public servants participate in the governing process by actually deigning to vote a couple of times every two years?  Are you people kidding me?  Only a star-struck fool would have supported this woman.

by Mario Democrat 2009-01-21 08:15PM | 0 recs
What's wrong with you people?

What is wrong? At this point Patterson is worth a spit to me. He should be ready for the backlash now and in 2010.

Also we know Obama is very willing to throw people under the bus now and then, I hope New York is on that list with the coming stimulus.

by YourConcernsAreNoted 2009-01-21 08:26PM | 0 recs
Very cool

I didn't know Caroline Kennedy was on MYDD.  Are you like, voting now and stuff, too?

by Mario Democrat 2009-01-21 08:35PM | 0 recs
but CK has the perfect credentials for that seat
she supported Obama over the evil Hillary Clinton and she cracked up at snotty comments about Hillary during the primary process.  
What more could anyone want in a senate appointment?
by Teacher1956 2009-01-22 01:21PM | 0 recs
Nominate Kennedy! Bobby Kennedy Jr.!

Wrong Kennedy gets out of the way, nominate the right one!

by fairleft 2009-01-22 06:15AM | 0 recs
Re: Nominate Kennedy! Bobby Kennedy Jr.!

He took his name out of the running in early December.

Another name can now be added to the list of public figures withdrawing their names from consideration as possible successors to Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., an environmental lawyer and son of the onetime senator from New York, said this morning that he had telephoned Gov. David A. Paterson and explained that he was not interested in being appointed to the United States Senate.

Maybe he will change his mind now that Caroline has withdrawn, but I suspect that there will be major push back from the party establishment if another Kennedy steps forward now.  I wish they would hold a special election to fill the seat.  I don't see why it is so easy to hold special elections for House seats, but not Senate seats.

by psychodrew 2009-01-22 06:58AM | 0 recs
Re: Nominate Kennedy! Bobby Kennedy Jr.!

Because a House election is only one district, while a Senate election has to be statewide.

With New York in the middle of a very difficult budget crisis, I'm personally not in favor of spending millions of dollars on a special election.  In fact, often when you have a vacancy it's for much less than the 2 years we're talking about in this case.  I don't really blame the taxpayers if they'd prefer to just leave it up to the Governor to appoint a placeholder rather than spending millions.

by Steve M 2009-01-22 07:42AM | 0 recs
Re: Nominate Kennedy! Bobby Kennedy Jr.!

That's disappointing to read. Thanks for informing me.

by fairleft 2009-01-22 10:30AM | 0 recs
I hope it's Gillibrand

but it probably won't be.  Not enough juice.

by Koan 2009-01-22 07:12AM | 0 recs
Re: I hope it's Gillibrand

she would be a good choice, but Maloney would be better.  She is more progressive and she has been at the job longer and has more experience.

by Teacher1956 2009-01-22 01:24PM | 0 recs
Totally agree

Additionally, unlike Gillibrand, Maloney doens't support the regressive Bush tax cuts for the wealthy

by Mario Democrat 2009-01-22 05:16PM | 0 recs
Geez...

What a mess this thing has been, eh?

by fogiv 2009-01-22 08:22AM | 0 recs
Re: Geez...

How fucking hard can it be?

Patterson is really looking bad here.

by spacemanspiff 2009-01-22 09:01AM | 0 recs
Re: Geez...

nah, he's going to select someone who is actually qualified for the position.  He's looking good to everyone but the Obama swooners.

by Teacher1956 2009-01-22 01:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Geez...

I don't think anyone would deny this has been a debacle, regardless of primary or party affiliation.  It is quite clear there have been some embarassing miscommunications in both staffs.

I am sure whomever he picks has nothing to do with primary affiliation. But contrary to your post, the evidence does not support your contention that Paterson did not pick her due to her qualifications, rather a variety of things such as poor PR and some vetting issues, nice try though. In fact it is more likely that he intended to pick her prior to the reasons above.

by KLRinLA 2009-01-22 01:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Geez...

Oh and by the way, Obama swooners would encapsulate a very large majority of the country right now

by KLRinLA 2009-01-22 02:21PM | 0 recs
We're in good company.

64% of Americans somewhat or strongly approve of Barack Obama.  

Rasmussen

by psychodrew 2009-01-22 02:47PM | 0 recs
Re: We're in good company.

Yes, we are and btw very good work on this diary and keeping us updated...do you sleep man?!

by KLRinLA 2009-01-22 03:09PM | 0 recs
Re: We're in good company.

A few hours here and there....oh the joys of grad school.

Thanks!

by psychodrew 2009-01-22 04:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Geez...

yawn.

I don't waste time with fools and trolls.

I h'rate. Anybody got a problem with that ban me. Don't really give a shit what anybody else thinks on this really.

by spacemanspiff 2009-01-22 04:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Breaking: Caroline Kennedy

I agree. Patterson has botched this. I posted about this earlier and was told it was because he promised to wait until the seat was actually vacant and HRC was sworn in. Done. It's time to give us a new senator. There cannot be a shortage of good, qualified candidates who want the job in NY.

by Mayor McCheese 2009-01-22 10:49AM | 0 recs
Re: According to FOX news, she

has a "nanny problem" as well as a "tax problem" that was revealed in the vetting process.  They also said something about "the state of her marriage?"  I'm always skeptical of FOX and I have not heard this any place else.

I assume a "nanny problem" means either hired an illegal or paid the nanny under the table.  

by half nelson 2009-01-22 12:05PM | 0 recs
So is NYT

ALBANY -- Problems involving taxes and a household employee surfaced during the vetting of Caroline Kennedy and derailed her candidacy for the Senate, a person close to Gov. David A. Paterson said on Thursday, in an account at odds with Ms. Kennedy's own description of her reasons for withdrawing.

The account emerged 14 hours after Ms. Kennedy announced that she was taking her name out of contention for the Senate seat vacated by Hillary Rodham Clinton, and as Mr. Paterson, according to two well-placed Democrats told of his thinking, was leaning toward selecting Representative Kirsten E. Gillibrand, an upstate lawmaker in her second term in Congress.

Link

by psychodrew 2009-01-22 12:20PM | 0 recs
Re: The Kennedy Drama Continues UPDATED 5X

Why is everyone blaming Patterson for all this. Believe, it is okay to criticize a Kennedy.

by RJEvans 2009-01-22 01:10PM | 0 recs
Re: The Kennedy Drama Continues UPDATED 5X

I agree both CK and Paterson are to blame for this, don't they have the benefit of cell phones and email to coordinate this?

by KLRinLA 2009-01-22 01:55PM | 0 recs

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