Randi Rhodes: "Hillary is a [redacted] whore"

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Here's Air America Radio's Randi Rhodes, calling Geraldine Ferarro and Hillary Clinton "[expletive] whore[s]."

Here are two choice excerpts:

"...what a whore Geraldine Ferarro is! She's such a [expletive] whore."

"Hillary is a big [expletive] whore, too. [...] She is a big [expletive] whore, and do you know why she's a big [expletive] whore? Because her deal is always, 'read the fine print, [expletive],'"

This doesn't need much commentary. Randi has become that which she claims to despise. She has set a new low for this campaign cycle, exceeding even the loathsome Chris Mathews.

Simply put, this is unacceptable on the right, the left, or the middle. Randi Rhodes should not have a job anywhere on radio.

And until she's gone, Air America Radio should hear about this in the media and from their advertisers.

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Update:

This clip came from "An Evening with Randi Rhodes," in San Francisco, sponsored by Green960 AM.

The contact page is here.

Update 2:

Rhodes takes calls from 3 to 7 ET daily: 1.866.303.2270 . Be polite. To get on the air, use the standard talk radio trick of pretending to the call screener to ask an on-topic question. Again, be polite. Be brief. Be positive. Take the high road, and do not sink to her level.

Here is her contact page

Update 3: Credit for this video clip goes to truthtelling007 who seems to have grabbed a copy of the video from Green 960's website. Yes, it's troubling that a progressive radio station would be proud of this.

Tags: Air America Radio, Hillary Clinton, Randi Rhodes (all tags)

Comments

254 Comments

Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hi

As a Obama supporter I condemn this man and his disgusting language. I hope we go on on the attack and bring him down. Find out everything about him, his tax records, personal history, secrets. Let's destroy him.

by KathyM 2008-04-02 01:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hi

She's a woman.  You're a troll.

by Si Ella Puede 2008-04-02 01:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hi

And you're a serial ratings abuser.

by Carl Nyberg 2008-04-02 01:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hi

I use the ratings appropriately.

I don't troll rate or hide things I disagree with, only those that are abusing the guidelines, such as the troll KathyM.

Thanks!

by Si Ella Puede 2008-04-02 01:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hi

So what exactly was trollish of her comments? It looks to me she made an honest mistake and called a woman a man. It happens.

by RJEvans 2008-04-02 01:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hi

Ok, if you want to believe that....  

by Si Ella Puede 2008-04-02 01:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hi

You gave troll ratings and zero ratings to comments that were fine b/c you didn't like the statements.

You are the type of person who poisons a blog community.

by Carl Nyberg 2008-04-02 01:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hi

First they came for Texas Darlin'.... I guess I'm on the list now too!

by Si Ella Puede 2008-04-02 01:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hi

Do you really feel you are persecuted for your righteous political beliefs? Or maybe it's b/c you behave badly?

by Carl Nyberg 2008-04-02 01:49PM | 0 recs
Carl - I've gotten a few troll ratings

and shrugged it off.  And I'm a mild commentator. The real people who are poisoning the community are those that post hateful diaries - on either side.  

I like Randi but as a woman and a supporter of Hillary, it is offensive.  But look - it's a comedy club - still, the problem is she's not primarily a comedian.  She is a political commentator.  That's problematic.

by Xanthe 2008-04-02 02:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hi

You are abusing the rating system and you know it. You have done it before and you are doing it now and will continue to do it. There was no reason to troll rate Kathy's comments because it was well in the guidelines. Even if she was not serious, it was not offensive in anyway and did not beak guidelines of this site. You on the other hand...

by RJEvans 2008-04-02 01:56PM | 0 recs
Not true

KathyM's comments clearly deserve troll ratings. No one should advocate the politics of personal destruction, no matter which candidate they're supporting.

Find out everything about him, his tax records, personal history, secrets. Let's destroy him. -- KathyM

Personally, I find it hard to believe that anyone who calls themselves "progressive" wouldn't know that a well known liberal radio personality like Randi Rhodes was a WOMAN, especially after watching the VIDEO.

by KnowVox 2008-04-02 02:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Not true

How do you know Kathy watched the video? I didn't watch the video. Give me a break with this politics of personal destruction. What do you think Rhodes is doing? Having a tea party? Please.

by RJEvans 2008-04-02 02:08PM | 0 recs
Here's a tip:

It's always helpful to VIEW a diary BEFORE you comment on it.

by KnowVox 2008-04-02 02:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Here's a tip:

Yeah, Kathy was trying to throw sand into the gears. You can see from the time stamps that she rushed to jump my tip jar. It's hardly a technique that helps illuminate a debate.

by Pacific John 2008-04-02 02:45PM | 0 recs
Yeppers

The video is 5 1/2 minutes long, and KathyM jumped in with her troll comment 3 minutes after you posted. She couldn't possibly have watched the video and read your diary within that time frame.

by KnowVox 2008-04-02 02:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hi

I'm chiming in.  I do not Troll rate people I disagree with.  I have troll rated KathyM, because that is all I have seen her do today.. not just here but elsewhere.

by bobbank 2008-04-02 03:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hi

It was rude and detracted from the discussion.  That is exactly what trolls do.  In addition, that is what you are doing.  The discussion is the diary.  Quit high jacking the diaries with your troll comments.

by macmcd 2008-04-02 04:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hi

This appears to be a case of troll-rate on sight, similar to what they do over at DailyBarackos.  It's actually in the site rules that it's acceptable behavior, and in some cases (such as this) it's okay with me...

by jarhead5536 2008-04-02 02:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hi

Find out everything about him, his tax records, personal history, secrets. Let's destroy him.

If that isn't troll worthy, I don't know what is.

by DaveOinSF 2008-04-02 02:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hi

You troll rated me because I told Clinton supporters who were threatening to take their vote to McBush to just go ahead and do it and quit making it a bargaining chip.

by hootie4170 2008-04-02 06:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hi

in that guys defense, i thought it was a man too, until i heard her talk.

by theninjagoddess 2008-04-02 04:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hi

I am starting on the kindergarten papers

by denounceandreject 2008-04-02 01:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hi

I condemn this man and his disgusting language.

Unintentionally hilarious comment.

by animated 2008-04-02 03:42PM | 0 recs
Obama Would Not Want You To Destroy

Sen. Obama would in No way want you to Destroy, and Find out Everything about Rhodes to destroy.  This is not what Obama is about.  This is what he is trying to Transcend, the Politics of Personal Destruction.  Love & Peace despite Ignorance of Others!

by bacalove 2008-04-03 03:32AM | 0 recs
Randi is not a man as far as I know

by activatedbybush 2008-04-03 07:05AM | 0 recs
Tips for a boycott

because no political party should be associated with this. Especially ours.

by Pacific John 2008-04-02 01:29PM | 0 recs
Agreed...

This is simply disgusting. If this is what Randi Rhodes likes to say of Democrats like Hillary Clinton & Geraldine Ferraro, then she shouldn't be saying this crap on radio. I DEFINITELY won't be listening to her show any time soon.

by atdleft 2008-04-02 02:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Agreed...

I stopped listening a couple years ago.  I found that in the time it took to drive the 5 miles home from work each evening (about 15 or 20 minutes) I was so ANGRY from listening to Rhodes... I couldn't keep walking in to door that angry no way.  Not after missing my kids all day - I wasn't going to waste the hour or two I got with them each evening being pissed off.

Life's too short for that shit.

Rhodes really needs to talk to someone about her anger and rage.  It's not healthy and THIS kind of crap isn't an effective way to get your message out.

by alegre 2008-04-02 04:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Tips for a boycott

Rhodes sounds like she's smokin some good crack. She's obviously a Liberal elite idiot, take another hit. working class isn't fooled, and Air America doesn't speak for the other 2/3 of the base. Once again out of touch. Truly embarrassing for any concerned liberal, or progressive.

by workingclass artist 2008-04-03 04:04AM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

If we are supposed to be having a higher dialog here then why are things like this being posted and not challenged?

by americanincanada 2008-04-02 01:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

You're right, we should be having a higher dialog.

Randi Rhodes is one of the biggest voices on liberal radio.

This should not stand.

by Pacific John 2008-04-02 01:31PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

Conceivably it could be a useful starting point for a discussion.

But it seems like the diary is attempting to link Obama to some radio personality losing her cool.

by Carl Nyberg 2008-04-02 01:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

How is the diary linking to Obama?  

by JustJennifer 2008-04-02 01:34PM | 0 recs
Like everything else, don't you know

its a dog whistle diary!  Its whistling, can't you hear it?  All the whistles are anti-Obama and everyone who says anything bad or critical about anyone even slightly associated with him... its a whistle.

by linc 2008-04-02 02:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Like everything else, don't you know

Are you saying Obama is the source of the language used ??

by DTaylor 2008-04-02 02:43PM | 0 recs
No...

I was being facetious, but you helped me out- thank you.

by linc 2008-04-02 03:24PM | 0 recs
So, draw the wagons around Randi,

after all she's an Obama supporter? Why can't we all whoever we support condemn RR's language?

by fairleft 2008-04-02 03:27PM | 0 recs
Re: So, draw the wagons around Randi,

I do!

by vcalzone 2008-04-02 06:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

She does this every day over the air in slightly less colorful language.

And you are the first person to mention Obama.

by Pacific John 2008-04-02 01:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

Did an earlier version label RR as an Obama supporter?

by Carl Nyberg 2008-04-02 01:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

I have no idea. I found this via Wampum Blog and Suburban Guerrilla. The hit counter at YouTube was only a little over 1200 at the time.

by Pacific John 2008-04-02 01:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

Did your diary ever label RR as an Obama supporter? And then maybe you edited it out?

by Carl Nyberg 2008-04-02 02:00PM | 0 recs
No

I have only added an update to this.

by Pacific John 2008-04-02 02:25PM | 0 recs
Sadly,

Randi Rhodes is one of Barack Obama's most vocal supporters on Air America Radio.

by KnowVox 2008-04-02 02:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

did you ever stop beating your dog? why the insistence that John is at fault for something he did not do?

by zerosumgame 2008-04-02 04:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

Carl, I respect you, but you're way off on this one.  The diary has nothing whatever to do with Obama. He's not mentioned of even alluded to in this diary. I can't even imagine how you think anyone is trying to smear Obama with this.  How could he be responsible for the BS that flows so freely from Randi Rhodes' mouth?

Also, Kathy deserved her troll ratings.  She jumped the tip jar and clearly didn't bother to read the diary and watch the video before she commented on the substance of it.  That deserves a TR - it's damn near the definition of trolling.

by Denny Crane 2008-04-02 04:20PM | 0 recs
They've all heard from Me

I've written AA headquarters, my local affiliate and even posted on her bb about it.

It hasn't gotten much attention on her bulletin board, but there is a thread in heard on the show called "Randi Live in SF".  If you're a member, please post your comment there as well.

by Si Ella Puede 2008-04-02 01:30PM | 0 recs
Re: They've all heard from Me

Just want to remind people you are a serial ratings abuser.

by Carl Nyberg 2008-04-02 01:42PM | 0 recs
Re: They've all heard from Me

Not really.

I've rated trolls and racists and those that use tag lines talking about Hillary bombing Obama's church.

Thanks!

by Si Ella Puede 2008-04-02 01:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

Sorry Pacific John...I hate this video and I don't even want to see it in this context. And I agree..no party should be associated with it. She needs to go and all supporters of all candidates should condem it.

by americanincanada 2008-04-02 01:30PM | 0 recs
You are, of course, right

it would be offensive to hear this from anyone, particularly anyone with a daily audience as large as Randi Rhodes'.

But we have few choices. Randi's certifiable hatred is on liberal radio every day. We cannot associate with that, or with her more colorful version in that auditorium in SF.

We have to have some standards. We cannot let hate stand from Rush Limbaugh, or from Don Imus. We can not let hate stand here simply because it is uncomfortable to address, or because it comes from one of our most important media outlets or personalities. In fact, we have a special responsibility because it does come from our side.

So we are forced to confront this.

Hate is hate. It can not let it stand.

by Pacific John 2008-04-02 02:08PM | 0 recs
Randi Rhodes: always has been unlistenable

It hasbeen awhile sinc I listened to AA.  But when Mr Franken had his show I was always switching AA off once RR started hers.  Even if I decided I would listen in that day, I was never able to last long.

She is just another formula shock jock. No news here.

by Quicklund 2008-04-02 01:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

I've never liked Randi Rhodes. She has always sounded like a partisan hack even if she is a Democratic partisan hack. This is really beyond the pale.

by Becky G 2008-04-02 01:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

For a party that barely has a foothold in the republican-dominated MSM, we'll take all the partisan hacks we can get.

I don't see any republicans apologizing for the obvious partisan hackery of Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, Boortz, Malkin, Ingraham, O'Reilly, and everyone else who makes their living vomiting GOP talking points into the mainstream discourse.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-04-02 01:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

I don't see any republicans apologizing for the obvious partisan hackery of Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, Boortz, Malkin, Ingraham, O'Reilly, and everyone else who makes their living vomiting GOP talking points into the mainstream discourse.

Well thats the difference between us and them. Democrats stand tall, even when it means criticizing one of our own. We don't win by being more like Republicans. We aren't apologizing for RR, she should be apologizing to us - not to mention to Clinton and Ferraro.

by Denny Crane 2008-04-02 04:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hillary is a [redacted]

Oh no she di'n't!  OMG

by Caldonia 2008-04-02 01:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hillary is a...

This is too ugly for words, Randi Rhodes doesn't belong on the air.

by 07rescue 2008-04-02 01:36PM | 0 recs
Sponsors

Does anybody have a list of sponsors?

Writing to sponsors is the only effective way to deal with crap like this.

by Trickster 2008-04-02 01:41PM | 0 recs
Well..

I think it's pretty bad form to call anyone a whore.  What if someone went out and called Obama a bastard or an a*#hole?  Wouldn't that be considered pretty tacky?

by JustJennifer 2008-04-02 01:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Well..

This is a touchy subject.

This is not about Obama. But this is about the way the media treats Obama.

The blame here goes purely to Randi Rhodes and, because she is Air America's most well known personality, to the radio network.

Yes, there is a double standard, and yes, this would be all over every media outlet if this were about the other candidate.

But Obama is not to blame for the media's problems, the media is.

The real enemy here is the media, and sadly, even media allegedly allied with the Democratic Party.

We need to remember, the central organizational purpose of new Democratic-supporting institutions like Atrios, MediaWhoresOnline, Media Matters, and the Center for American Progress, was to criticize excesses in the media. After we have a nominee, the media will be back to its old tricks of tearing down Democrats, and our primary purpose, again, will be to fight the real enemy, and not ourselves.

Rhodes' bile is more harmful than is apparent at face value. She discredits all of liberal radio, and sinks far below the mainstream media. She has squandered credibility far beyond her own.

by Pacific John 2008-04-02 02:20PM | 0 recs
The media? How many times have I heard

a white comic call my people niggers? Or a black comic say the same? This is a woman doing stand up.

by RLMcCauley 2008-04-02 03:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Well..
We need to remember, the central organizational purpose of new Democratic-supporting institutions like Atrios, MediaWhoresOnline, Media Matters, and the Center for American Progress, was to criticize excesses in the media.
jeez, Pacific JOHN have you no sense of humor and irony?
by xtrarich 2008-04-02 08:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Well..

Is it ironic that actual mediawhores call our side whores? You tell me.

The point is the media is always, in the end, caustic to Democrats. This case is just a lot closer to home than you'd expect.

by Pacific John 2008-04-02 08:47PM | 0 recs
That's not the right analogy

The right analogy is far uglier and I hope that we would never hear it on the air or anywhere else.

by activatedbybush 2008-04-03 07:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

I've called Rhodes "Lady Limbaugh" ever since she invited Nader on her program and then ambushed him back in 2004 by not letting him get in a word between her shouts (He said, " I don't need this," and hung up on her.) "Lady O'Reilly" would probably be more appropriate, but the alliteration isn't as good.

There's no doubt she's a liberal a-hole.

by Kobi 2008-04-02 01:48PM | 0 recs
by kevin22262 2008-04-02 05:24PM | 0 recs
I'm going to uprate that

because the TR was out of line, and for a bonus this post too.

by Student Guy 2008-04-02 05:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Hey

As ye sow...

by Kobi 2008-04-02 06:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

You know, I've never found Randi Rhodes to be particularly insightful or relevant.  She seems like a loudmouth who somehow got her own radio show, just because.

by rfahey22 2008-04-02 01:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

Indeed.  I listened to her show for almost a year, tapering off along the way.  I found her to be pretty well informed, but very much in love with herself, which I've always found to be incredibly irritating. I really miss Al Franken's show, though.

by Denny Crane 2008-04-02 04:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

Franken was great.  I haven't listened in a long time, but I miss Malloy.  Granted, he went off the deep end from time to time, but I appreciated his enthusiasm.

by rfahey22 2008-04-02 04:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

I heard Malloy the other night talking about what a "LIAR!!!!" Hillary Clinton was.  If you know Malloy, you can imagine how he said it. :)

I actually find it hard to listen to any liberal radio for more than short bursts.  The over-the-top rhetoric grates on my nerves.

by zadura 2008-04-02 05:02PM | 0 recs
Thank you for posting this.

I hope that all of us, Clinton and Obama supporters alike, agree that this is unacceptable behavior, and that Randi Rhodes should be off the air.

For those of you who support Obama, remember that she used to be a big fan of the Clintons.  Things changed, obviously, and you never know when your candidate might be the recipient of her disapproval as well.

by cjbardy 2008-04-02 01:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you for posting this.

Exactly what I was going to say!  She will turn on him, too.  I give it 1 year, tops.

Irrational hatred (and that's what this is) is really projection.
 

by Larissa 2008-04-02 05:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes

I'm lost for words.  I won't give a hoot if she gave her little rant in her kitchen.   But this language and the person who use it have no place in the media.

by JoeySky18 2008-04-02 01:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hillary is a whore"

This is filth! Imagine that she is on Air America and that they consider their selves to be progressive. It makes me want to hurl!

by Fleaflicker 2008-04-02 01:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: Hillary is a [redacted] whore

I don't think that this was meant literally.  I think that we can all agree that figuratively Hillary is a f**ing whor - You know, in the metaphorical sense of the term.  

by pbonefullgrown 2008-04-02 01:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: Hillary is a [redacted] whore

Ugh and bull.

by christinep 2008-04-02 05:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "

I can't watch the video at work, but the quoted excerpts certainly sound bad.

However, before today I can say that Randi Rhodes has been one of the best and most knowledgeable voices of liberalism on the radio. Yes, her tone is loud and maybe even grating for some. But she knows her stuff.

Condemn her comments if you want, but stop trashing her past record of strong Democratic advocacy. Democrats are barely a blip in the wingnut-driven world of talk radio, and it's sad to see so many people acting like it's BAD that she was an unabashed Democratic partisan. It would be nice if we had MORE "Lady Limbaughs" and "loudmouths" to galvanize our base.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-04-02 01:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "

When "liberal" media starts trashing Democrats in such a manner (yes let's remember Hillary is indeed a Democrat!) it IS time to pull the plug. We are suppose to better than that.

by monstergrrl 2008-04-02 02:29PM | 0 recs
Randi Rhodes has been bashing Hillary on AA for

some time now. She is not impartial and she treats callers who are sane and who disagree with her, even on a small point, with no respect. She is in the bag for Obama. She isn't the only one on AA who is pro-Obama and anti-Clinton.

Now she over played her hand and showed her true colors. She is pond scum and very representative of much of the media's blatent bias.

How can any progressive, moderate or conservative join with someone like Randi Rhodes and support Obama?

by mmorang 2008-04-02 03:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes has been bashing Hillary on AA fo

Let's clarify something here. People who make a living giving their opinions have NO obligation to be neutral. Randi Rhodes is not a journalist. She does not have to be objective. It's her show, and she can be in the bag for Obama if she wants.

I'm sure there are columnists, pundits or media figures similarly in the bag for Clinton. That's life. I don't get why people are pitching fits every time someone acknowledges they prefer Obama over  Clinton. Sheesh.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-04-02 03:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes has been bashing Hillary on AA fo

Its the language (the demeaning, below the bottom) language.

by christinep 2008-04-02 05:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes has been bashing Hillary on AA fo

yes, but I was referring to complaints about her pro-Obama bias even prior to today's comments.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-04-02 06:31PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "

She can't "galvanize our base" by alienating it. I have no problem with her critiquing Dems, but calling then whores is way, way beyond the pale.  It's not even a close call.

by Denny Crane 2008-04-02 04:26PM | 0 recs
I didn't stop listening to RR because

she was annoying or obnoxious -- I stopped listening to her a couple years ago because she is superficially informed and full of sh!t.  Whoever said she is well informed needs to read more.

She's a cartoon liberal.  I wouldn't be surprised if half her audience is young republicans making fun of her.  All I was ever able to assume about Rhodes was AA doesn't have the cash to pay for wall to wall talent.  She's the cheap filler.

by grassrootsorganizer 2008-04-02 05:34PM | 0 recs
I don't get Rhodes..
She is uninformed and won't cop to a mistake. I remember early on she went on a tirade about how Rumsfeld didn't serve in the military. I and several others corrected her error. She never acknowledged it. Facts be damned in her world. I can't stand her - and seeing her on the HBO special about AAR only reinforced my take.
She's particularly charming when she argues with someone who is agreeing with her - let's face it - she's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
by durendal 2008-04-02 09:11PM | 0 recs
In fact, Randi Rhodes is AAR's highest-paid talent

... because she's their highest-rated talent.

That's the ugly reality of talk radio.

by tbetz 2008-04-02 09:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "

I want nothing to do with a party filled with people that would find that acceptable. I'm starting to think there must be a party out there for me somewhere.. because the my Democratic Party is becoming unrecognizable.  The day that RR's Ann Coulter imitation is not resoundly rejected by supposed "progressives" is the day our Party died.

by Catriley sez 2008-04-02 07:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "

your comment really has nothing to do with what I actually wrote.

Nonetheless, I'm not sure why it was troll-rated, so I uprated it.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-04-02 08:05PM | 0 recs
Nice....

The real Randi Rhodes. Tell me, is Rhodes a bad comedian or a Coulter-like political pundit?

by soyousay 2008-04-02 02:01PM | 0 recs
BOTH. n/t

by KnowVox 2008-04-02 02:11PM | 0 recs
What an awful piece of s...t this video is

This is exactly what i have been talking about. No one, no woman, should ever be insulted this way, ever, and if you do not understand this simple fact and try to defend this nasty woman's comment you are not a human being who respects other human beings.

This lady is just awful and i apologize to all Senator Clinton supporters. There is simple no excuses or explanations or justification for this kind of behavior. PERIOD.

And every supporter of Senator Obama should be outraged because those who call Senator Clinton a W-word today will call Senator Obama the N-word tomorrow.

If you want to start a petition to fire her from Radio America, i will gladly sign it as i signed the one against Imus.

by likelihood zero 2008-04-02 02:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes whore"

You mean Air America finally started getting some sponsors?  I guess maybe after I stopped listening to them months ago.  

Disgusting they have become.  This is the perfect example and it's not limited to her apparent [poor]attempts at humor.  When they based their very existence to be the opposite of the Right Wing hate and distorted coverage and they turn around and do the very same thing.  Who knew when she attacked Ann Coulter and the other R W, it was because she wanted to emulate them.  I saw this coming with the changes of the new owners, the Greens.  I never expected them to abuse their listeners trust and our airwaves for their own personal (sick)agenda.

Many weeks back I turned on Randi for the heck of it, to be sickened by her false claims and attacks on Hillary.  There is no repair that can equal what has been coming out of her mouth.  I guess she had to up the anti on Keith Obamamann.  But hasn't she noticed, he's become a laughing stock, is that too what she aspires to?  Ca CHING!  She WINS!

And, by the way, does Randi understand the meaning of whore?....hmmmm.

by LindaSFNM 2008-04-02 02:02PM | 0 recs
Is there a double standard here?

When Tina Fey on SNL declared "b** is the new black" and "b**** get stuff done", the Hillosphere erupted in applause, because that was tied to an argument to vote for her.

Now Rhodes is using similar insults against her, and that's completely unspeakable?

Both Fey's and Rhodes' pronouncements are objectionable and degrading, but my guess would be that the people condemning the latter had not a peep to say about the former.

by MBNYC 2008-04-02 02:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Is there a double standard here?

Explain how calling a woman a "f*cking whore" can be used FOR her.

by KnowVox 2008-04-02 02:06PM | 0 recs
That's my point.

Where I'm coming from, both are unacceptable statements. But one of these two incidents got cheered, the other didn't.

This isn't a discussion, as far as I'm concerned, about the primary. It's one about the usage of language in a gendered political context. I find some expressions completely unacceptable to use for women in the political sphere: b---- is one, w---- another.

by MBNYC 2008-04-02 03:46PM | 0 recs
Re: That's my point.

B!tch means different things in different contexts. Tina Fey used it to mean 'a woman who steps out of traditional roles to the extent that it offends sexists and therefore they are called b!tch', not 'a woman who is mean/cruel'.

Both of them are perfectly acceptable if used appropriately, actually, as are male equivalents such as jerk.

What is not acceptable is the misuse of the word b!tch to label women who are stepping out of traditional submissive roles as being mean/cruel.

Everything is in the context. It is really very intuitive.

by Beet 2008-04-02 05:56PM | 0 recs
Re: That's my point.

I hear the same explanations about the N word.  It still offends me when people use it, whatever the color.

by shalca 2008-04-02 08:38PM | 0 recs
I think you know why...

Sometimes, African-Americans may refer to each other jokingly as the "n" word. But if someone were to ever use the "n" word against anyone, it's disgustingly unacceptable. You have to examine the context.

It's a similar case here. Tina Fey wasn't insulting Hillary by saying "Bitch is the new black". Randi Rhodes, OTOH, WAS insulting Hillary & Geraldine Ferraro by calling them "f***ing whores".

It's not that hard to understand the difference. Look at the context around each statement.

by atdleft 2008-04-02 02:08PM | 0 recs
Well, of course.

And maybe it's worth pointing out that I find no redeeming value in Rhodes' routine. Tasteless, crass and unacceptable.

But here's the thing: I felt the same way about Fey. But you gave her a pass, probably even applauded her, because her degrading language was used to an end you agree with.

Sure, context matters. But it appears to me that if Rhodes had used her "f------ w----" as part of a pro-Hillary pitch, you wouldn't be all that perturbed. I would be.

by MBNYC 2008-04-02 03:33PM | 0 recs
Nonsense!!!!!

Tina Fey was not denigrating anyone.  If you cannot see that RR was denigrating both Geraldine and Hillary then you must really have your head stuck someplace where the sun doesn't shine.

by macmcd 2008-04-02 05:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Well, of course.

Tina Fey was actually making fun of people who call Hillary a Bitch by turning it around on them and representing it as characteristics we would want in or elected officials, strong determined, motivated.

Now if you can find a way that RR calling Hillary an EFFing Whore can be construed as taking an insult directed at her and turing it into a positive you might have a point until the you are triangulating and we all no how much you Obama supporters hate that.

by RedstateLib 2008-04-02 08:12PM | 0 recs
Re: I think you know why...

your analogy doesn't work right.

But if someone were to ever use the "n" word against anyone, it's disgustingly unacceptable. You have to examine the context.

If it's "woman on woman" misogyny in the present case, then it would have to be a black person calling another black person the n-word. Not that this is by any means a good thing, but I highly doubt there would be the same level of outrage as if a white person said it.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-04-02 03:43PM | 0 recs
No, no no, i am sorry don't try to justify

this, rationalize it or explain it or excuse it.

I was raised by a feminist mother and i support Senator Obama and voted for him and if i were sitting there, i would have called her out or stood up and walked out, but i would not have cheered, applauded or laughed. This woman is a despicable human being and she should be shunned.

Plus, the b-word has another meaning than the w-word. You know it so don't act as if you do not.

If you are a proud supporter of Obama you SHOULD NOT stand for this because if you do, the day someone calls his the N-word, you will try to justify it, rationalize it, explain it and excuse it.

by likelihood zero 2008-04-02 02:12PM | 0 recs
Who's justifying anything?

Or rationalizing or explaining or excusing? I think the whole episode is appalling.

What I'm saying is this: if we condemn Randi Rhodes, and I think we should, then we do so with somewhat less credibility after the Tina Fey episode. Maybe I'm humor-deprived, but I find the b-word and the w-word both degrading. But when Fey came out with her routine, the whoops from pro-Clinton bloggers were deafening.

For further reading, I recommend this Daily Kos diary and the reactions to it, including my own. Exactly the same deal: using sexualized language that's degrading to women in the political sphere. We shouldn't be doing that at all, period, and not carving out selective exceptions for when we like the use to which it's put.

by MBNYC 2008-04-02 03:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Who's justifying anything?

A whore is NOT the same thing as a bitch and you know that every well, but you are acting as if you did not know the difference to muddy the issue.

A whore carries all negative meanings of a sexually crazed person who sleeps around just to have her fix. A whore has no morals or principles. A whore is the trash of human being. That is the meaning of calling someone a whore and you know that already.

A bitch is a tough woman with a strong character. Every time there is a woman who is tough and demanding we--that is men--call her a bitch. If a man has the same characteristics, we call him tenacious or strong.  

My wife who is a high financial manager in a hedge fund could be called a bitch because she a tough woman and i would even go as understanding that. However, I will never accept and/or understand someone calling her a whore.

So, equating Tina Fey  to what Rhodes said is not fair or even a good comparison. Moreover, Tina Fey is a comedian, her work is to make fun of the political elites and she does not have a show on a radio where she analyzes politics every day. Rhodes does have a show on radio where she analyzes the news every day and with that show comes duties and responsibilities to behave in a certain manner in a public forum.

The same thing happened to Don Imus. He was not a comedian, therefore his joke was not accepted or could be explained. If he were a comedian no one would have paid attention to him or to what he said unless he was doing it purposefully to hurt someone like Michael Richards when he went bezerk.

MBNYC, when you try to compare Tina Fey to Rhodes, you are trying to rationalize her conduct and explain her intent and excuse her behavior. So, let me repeat that i already said. No one should try to explain, rationalize, justify or excuse what Rhodes has said on that video. PERIOD.

by likelihood zero 2008-04-02 04:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Is there a double standard here?

Tina Fey also did not say...

She IS (Clinton) a effing whore.  I'm one too.  
So's she.  Effing whores get stuff done.  

Effing whores are the new black.  

It isn't funny is it?  In fact she didn't even say
shes's a effing bitch which makes the tone so
very different.  It isn't the same thing
by any stretch of the imagination.  

We need to keep that in mind.  Saying they are the
same is just plain wrong.  

by Cam5New Mexico 2008-04-02 02:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Is there a double standard here?

Oh sure, and you said that with a straight face?

by LindaSFNM 2008-04-02 02:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Is there a double standard here?

Yes. I've heard white comics, male and female, call my people niggers in a stand up routine and it's supposed to be a joke. I'm not supposed to get mad unless it's clear that it wasn't a joke.  This is a stand up routine where a woman is calling another woman a bad name. It's even less offensive than when white comics diss my people but I bet people here don't think so.

by RLMcCauley 2008-04-02 03:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Is there a double standard here?

I can only hope (and apologize) that you heard this stuff in the distant past and not recently.

I can't for the life of me, think of one white comedian in this day and age who can say that crap.

And any that do, need to be rightly condemned for it.

And that's just the comedians, let alone any so-called serious political talk show hosts.

by Si Ella Puede 2008-04-02 03:44PM | 0 recs
Sarah Silverman says "nigger"

but it's a joke. Other comedians do as well or make fun of black folks. It's supposed to be a joke. That's what stand up is. Jokes.

RR wasn't on her radio show. She was doing stand-up. Just like when Rosie O'Donnell made jokes about black folks in her stand up but didn't on The View.

Stand-up is a different world and RR is, or considers herself, a comedian.

You're not supposed to take them seriously when they're doing a routine.

Or should I go smack every comedian that I hear diss my people?

by RLMcCauley 2008-04-02 03:49PM | 0 recs
Seriously?

I've heard white comics, male and female, call my people n------ in a stand up routine and it's supposed to be a joke.

If someone did that in a theater where I am in New York, they would be dragged off the stage so fast it would make your head spin. Most people have zero tolerance for that crap, not even when it's supposed to be teh funny.

That said, I don't think Rhodes should be given a pass for this. Sure, this was probably some all-adult comedy club or such, but this routine just buys into too many abusive frames to tolerate.

by MBNYC 2008-04-02 03:54PM | 0 recs
Sarah Silverman does it

George Carlin had a bit with it too. Though that's probably old.

I see it, and just general jokes about black folks, in stand up on HBO all of the time.

I've seen white folks do say that and other jokes at Second City.

It's stand up (or on the case of Second City - improv) and it's supposed to be a joke. Even if it's an edgy joke.

by RLMcCauley 2008-04-02 03:57PM | 0 recs
I no more take her stand up

seriously than I do Chris Rock or Sarah Silverman. Though, admittedly, they're way funnier.

by RLMcCauley 2008-04-02 03:58PM | 0 recs
Well...

...we, um, don't have cable, so when I see comedy it's usually live.

I'm just shocked. That's not even funny, it's just wrong.

by MBNYC 2008-04-02 04:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Well...

The point of Rock, Silverman, and Chappelle at least is to mock bigotry. Some comedians, the ones who aren't very funny, just seem to do it for shock laughter like you hear here.

by RLMcCauley 2008-04-02 04:16PM | 0 recs
Lenny Bruce was dragged off the stage by NYPD.

Convicted. Died before his appeal could be heard, but his co-defendant, club owner Howard Solomon prevailed. Bruce was posthumously pardoned by Governor Pataki in 2003.

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects /ftrials/bruce/bruceaccount.html

Youtube: Are there any Niggers here tonight?

by benmasel 2008-04-03 05:53AM | 0 recs
No.

I think we can distinguish between Tina Fey's use of the word "bitch" to praise Hillary (as well as herself and co-anchor Amy Poehler) and Randy Rhodes purported use of the phrase "fucking whore" to slur her.  We can praise one and condemn the other, because unlike television pundits, with their practiced idiocy, we are capable of such subtlety.

Really, I know the difference between sincere praise and a sincere slur, and I think it's entirely acceptable to applaud one and condemn another without being accused of a "double standard" because they contain the same word.

by Drew 2008-04-02 10:29PM | 0 recs
You demean yourself

by trying to apologize for this

by activatedbybush 2008-04-03 07:11AM | 0 recs
You know what bothers me the most about this video

is the public. They applauded and laughed and cheered at someone who is being insulted in very despicable and horrible ways.

by likelihood zero 2008-04-02 02:04PM | 0 recs
Wow,

This is absolutely sick and very sad.

by SocialDem 2008-04-02 02:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hillary is a......."

she must have hit her head too hard during that fake mugging she reported some time ago.

by BlueDoggyDogg 2008-04-02 02:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

There are actually quite a few "liberal" on-air people I can't stand. They tend to be the ones who have modeled themselves on the worst examples from the conservative media circuit. Their views might be more palatable, but the style is just as bad.

by OrangeFur 2008-04-02 02:12PM | 0 recs
I'm starting a petition to fire this woman, please

help me. Where do i send it? How do you guys sign it? and so forth?

I am an Obama supporter and I am with you 100000% on this.

by likelihood zero 2008-04-02 02:14PM | 0 recs
Pacific...

Thanks for the clip/link. Although I'm  disappointed in Rhodes, I want the truth. Rhodes leans more to the left than I do; regardless, I always respected her point of view....until now.

by soyousay 2008-04-02 02:18PM | 0 recs
It's tasteless, but...

This is a comedy routine.  She's not saying that Ferraro or Clinton are actually prostitutes. She's saying that their behavior can be compared to prostitutes, and she goes into (stupid) detail on how.

It's basically the same as calling a small dog a "lap slut" or that annoying person at work an "attention whore."

You really have to lay off the outrage, it's not good for you.  The really offensive thing about this is that it's not actually funny, not that she's ripping on Ferraro or Clinton.

Comedians say all sorts of crazy stuff, that's what they're paid to do.  I don't like Rhode's show very much, and this kind of comedy doesn't do anything for me, but let's not get out of hand.  South Park had Satan in a gay relationship with Saddam Hussein.  Chris Rock uses the "N word" constantly.  Stephen Colbert disrespected George W. Bush to his face at the press banquet.  Bill Maher says even worse stuff about our elected officials every friday night on his show.  Rush Limbaugh is even more outragious, and he doesn't even bill himself as a comedian, which is pretty offensive.

Before you get all outraged at a taped comedy show (this wasn't even on the air on Air America), think about every time you've laughed at something inappropriate.  Just because she's picking on someone you respect, doesn't mean that it's any better or worse than comedians saying awful things about people you hate. If you don't like a comedy routine, walk out.  Turn it off.  Don't try to get the comedian fired from an unrelated job.  

by Dracomicron 2008-04-02 02:20PM | 0 recs
No...

This is just tasteless. PERIOD. There's no reason for "progressives" to stoop to such Rush Limbaugh & Ann Coulter lows by trashing Hillary like that. That's precisely why I don't watch Bill Maher.

And even though Randi Rhodes doesn't go into the expletives on her radio show, her "commentary" on air is just about as crude. There's no excuse for this garbage, and we liberals/progressives shouldn't be defending it.

by atdleft 2008-04-02 02:29PM | 0 recs
I am sorry, any amount of rationalizing

this stuff is dangerous. PERIOD. She is not a comedian and i don't give a damn about her comedic life. She has a show on a radio, a POLITICAL, where she presents her opinion. By behaving the way she is behaving  she is blurring the lines.

Chris Rock never pretended to be a political analyst, she DOES and IS. Therefore, she must be upheld to higher standards. Goodness people, are we becoming like the right-wingers that we criticized all our life? Come on...

I just cannot understand that some people are justifying and trying to explain this. My goodness.

by likelihood zero 2008-04-02 02:30PM | 0 recs
Re: It's tasteless, but...

I understand your point but I respectfully disagree. "Comedy" like this is tasteless and that it shouldn't even be excused as "just comedy".  

by SocialDem 2008-04-02 02:32PM | 0 recs
I wouldn't try to defend this.

She excruciatingly describes the mirror to a Spitzer-like press conference in which a public woman would be exposed as a prostitute.

by Pacific John 2008-04-02 02:32PM | 0 recs
Re: It's tasteless, but...

Mostly agree. Except I don't think she made a serious attempt to explain how their behavior could be compared to that of prostitutes. She just used "whore" in the "woman I don't like" sense. Honestly, I'd bet she wanted to use the word "cunt" but figured it would be too risky.

I've never listened to her show, didn't think that particular stand-up routine was funny (the linejumper bit could've been funny in the hands of a... comedian), but I have a hard time getting worked up about it and don't see how anyone benefits from calling attention to it.

Clinton should be happy Bill Hicks is dead.

by Mobar 2008-04-02 04:19PM | 0 recs
Randi won't use "cunt".

Everyone draws the line somewhere, and that's hers.

Says it has something to do with her time in the Air Force, where she has said other times that she was raped and nothing was done to the rapist -- so the two things may be related.

by tbetz 2008-04-02 04:38PM | 0 recs
Re: It's tasteless, but...

Oh c'mon.  What a weak defense!

by christinep 2008-04-02 05:18PM | 0 recs
Not much to defend

I'm not inclined to go out on a limb for this crap.  

I still think that it's not worth getting outraged over.  I'm vaguely offended every time I flip past Comedy Central during their Random Comedian Spews Garbage shows, but it's just not worth my time.  I flip past.

by Dracomicron 2008-04-02 07:28PM | 0 recs
No, but...

If Chris Rock did it, I probably would, though I would still maintain that it was probably in bad taste.

I'm not saying that Randi deserves a pat on the back or anything, but she was playing to an audience as she was obviously paid to do.  I have better things to do than have a fit about a comedy routine.

Comedy is comedy.  The only reasons that Sarah Silverman isn't lynched for all the blasphemy she utters in every routine are A) it's a comedy routine, and everyone realizes that, and B) she's honestly funny and cute.  If you guys had thought it was funny despite your political correctness, you would have given Randi a pass.  You don't think it's funny, however, and you fear that this one routine will somehow negate the monumental gains in feminism made over the last century.  It won't.  You're good.  Women rock.  They rock so much, they're free to talk smack about each other in nightclubs.  

I've known plenty of women who have called other women "whores" or "bitches" or even worse.  I'm sure many of you have as well.  I've known men who have used the same and other terms to describe other men.  We understand this.  It's catharsis.  The only egregious thing about what Randi said was that she said it about important political figures to an audience.

I see people thinking that the Democratic party has "abandoned women."  That's silly.  Vote with your dollars and your time if you're offended.  Don't listen to Randi's show and don't buy the products she advertises on it.

by Dracomicron 2008-04-03 05:47AM | 0 recs
Can someone post the phone #

and the email address of this despicable woman, please?

by likelihood zero 2008-04-02 02:31PM | 0 recs
Here:

She takes calls from 3 to 7 daily: 1.866.303.2270 .

Here is her contact page

by Pacific John 2008-04-02 02:36PM | 0 recs
Randi Rhodes Phone Number

It would be helpful to post this contact phone number in the diary. Let's deluge her with calls.

by KnowVox 2008-04-02 02:41PM | 0 recs
Before you call, please make sure...

... that she's actually on the air that day.

Sam Seder was filling in for her today -- presumably a "travel day" for her -- and he's a really nice guy who doesn't deserve catching mishigas for what Randi might have done.

by tbetz 2008-04-02 04:40PM | 0 recs
Thank you. Is anyone interested in starting

a petition?

If so, please start a diary with the test of the petition and let everyone print it out, sign it and send it to AA.

One more thing: what is the list of their sponsors? and can anyone post it here?

This should not pass and we should not allow it to pass. I have 2 daughters and i would like to protect them for these crap of human beings. My blood is just boiling about this and i can't seem to calm down. When my wife sees this, she is going to go ballistic.

Thank you

PS: I am sorry about all these questions, i don't listen to radio programs at all so i am not familiar with despicable lady.

by likelihood zero 2008-04-02 02:45PM | 0 recs
Self-Destruction

This is too much! How much more of this does it take to convince Democratics, those that support Clinton or Obama, that enough is enough! This has to stop. This is not about Obama or Clinton anymore. We Democrats are self-destructing.

by zenful6219 2008-04-02 02:36PM | 0 recs
After picking myself up off the floor,

I emailed both Randi and Green 960.

I am simply aghast at this tape.  If this is how Democratic women speak about each other, we've certainly not come a long way, baby!

Please spread this far and wide and call Randi to account for her despicable behavior.

ps.  My email to Randi was just bounced back.  Apparently the email they list isn't working.  

by Radiowalla 2008-04-02 02:44PM | 0 recs
AAR just replaced their web site...

... and the new site is still kind of a disaster, so if you e-mailed an address @airamerica.com or @airamericaradio.com, it likely got screwed up in the switchover.  They probably screwed up the MX record.

I just checked, and yup, they moved their e-mail service from their own mail host, outsourcing it to USA.NET.  This is a recent change, and the account is probably still misconfigured.

by tbetz 2008-04-02 09:20PM | 0 recs
she should resign like Ferraro had to

and Obama should denounce that fucking cunt Rhodes.

by DiamondJay 2008-04-02 02:54PM | 0 recs
Using the "C" word

You should be banned for a comment like this.

by KnowVox 2008-04-02 02:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

The sad thing is this really isn't that much different then what you read on dkos.  I mean i have seen worse about HRC and Ferraro on dkos and some other web pages.  This type of talk is what you expect when political supporters want to win so badly that come to hate the other person.

The funny thing is i keep hearing about how HRC will do anything to win but this is what we see from BO supporters.  HRC is a racist.  HRC is a lair. HRC will do anything to win. HRC is shrill. HRC is responsible for 4000 us deaths.  HRC is responsible for NAFTA.  BONSIA BONSIA BONSIA. I can go on and on.

I understand that BO supporters have their own issues with HRC and i agree she has run a rough campaign but BO and his supporters have not only run a rough campaign but many of their attacks have been so personal.  And really this is just one example of what we read and hear everyday about HRC.

I wonder what would have happened is some made commentator make a statement about pimping ones daughter directed toward BO instead of HRC.  The noise would be unbearable but not really that much outrage when it is directed a HRC.

RR really hasn't said anything that i don't hear from BO supporters every week right before they lectures us about how if we don't vote for BO we are not real democrats.  Well I have voted democratic since 1978 and I have never seen democrats smear another democrat like I have seen BO supporters smear HRC.

david

by giusd 2008-04-02 02:58PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

Find me an Obama supporter who's said what Rhodes said and not been piled on by other Obama supporters. Any of them on the blogs should've been denounced and probably kicked out; even one warning would be rather generous. Maybe if there was a copious apology.

You can find both Obama supporters and Clinton supporters who say vile things about either candidate. On this site we've often been subjected to repeated descriptions of Obama as a "racist" or a "sexist with issues with women" or a "misogynist". While not as offensive as what Rhodes said, it's way, way beyond anything acceptable.

Randi Rhodes is not a part of the Obama campaign; she's not paid by Obama, not in any campaign role, nothing. She's an employee of AA and deserves to be fired by them. She owes Hillary Clinton an apology and so does AA. This is unacceptable language.

Don't try to spin this that this is Obama's fault. It's not. He didn't do it, his campaign didn't do it. If you try that line then we're going to have a long laundry list of apologies on both sides, and we really don't need that.

by Texas Gray Wolf 2008-04-02 03:47PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

how are those phrases, in common use around here, in less offensive?

by wrb 2008-04-02 05:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

I'm not sure if they are or not. I'm granting it for the purposes of argument and because I'm not female and can't accurately gauge the impact of being called that particular set of names.

They're pretty offensive, whether aimed at Obama or supporters; I've had some of them hurled at me and I sure didn't like it.

by Texas Gray Wolf 2008-04-02 06:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

Yes, obama has made misogynist comments and his campaign has engaged in racist accusations. That is the truth. Saying that Hillary Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro are fucking whores is not the truth. Whether she is your candidate or not, she is fine progressive who has spent most of her adult life working on behalf of other people. As has Ferraro.

Reducing her foreign policy experience to "tea with ambassadors" is, by definition, a misogynist statement. The "Period" comment is so offensive, I can't believe any Democratic women are still supporting him. Talk about beyond the pale - that's worse than this Rhodes comment.

As for race, as Wilentz pointed out, if the clinton's wanted to run a race baiting campaign, they could have quite effectively released the Wright videos early on. They didn't. So that pretty much demolishes that low life rhetoric coming out of the Obama campaign.

by Little Otter 2008-04-02 09:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

voice your frustrations here:

http://www.johnmccain.com

because this isn't Clinton's party anymore, either you are with the new guard or you watch from the sidelines, we are not going to pander to Hillary's rabid base who whine that their candidate is getting mistreated by the media, Obama supporters, Republicans, or the flying spaghetti monster.  This is politics, a rough and dirty business if you don't like it get out, no one is forcing you here and no one is going to hold your hand because your feeling got hurt.

by denounceandreject 2008-04-02 04:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

Sorry, but I'm new to both blogs and the vitriol is much harsher here... at least since Feb.

by mikeinsf 2008-04-02 11:43PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes

I've never listened to Randi Rhodes.

I'm guessing I won't, in the future.  It's a shame that some want to listen to political shows at the level of Howard Stern.

Anyway, I'm assuming this happened today.  I hope there's an apology tomorrow.  But even if there is, she probably needs to be suspended or punished in some way.

by freedom78 2008-04-02 02:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes is a . . . .

I stopped listening to Randi Rhodes several weeks ago when she began yelling at callers (or maybe she's always done that) but this is downright unhinged.  How is she going to argue on her radio show now that she'll vote for the Democratic nominee, if that nominee is Hillary?  I have never heard such filthy disrespect from any radio show host for fellow members of her own political party. What could possibly be the aim of this?

I'd say I was disappointed in her but that happened a long time ago with this broad..... she needs help. She is doing the Democratic party far more harm than any candidate, including Ralph Nader, is currently doing.  She's just a loser.  I think this video should be posted all over the place to show what kind of mental problems Rhodes apparently operates under.

by shellius 2008-04-02 02:59PM | 0 recs
a [redacted] whore"

she said it because that's how it's been going, worse and worse things are being said about a female candidate for president.  I wrote Howard Dean months ago and said, not another penny until you call out the media for hate speech, for inciting hate. It's probably too late, the haters are having too great a time. Hillary isn't intimidated but it's damn hard to be unafraid in the  midst of such tolerated hate.  It seems that female managers in male dominated industries have to listen to these hate filled jokes about Hillary and pretend to be one of the guys. They're scared, I'm scared, it's gone too far. Obama did not make her say what she said, but he's never spoken out against the hate speech that comes from his self-professed supporters.  The pundits pretend her supporters are also saying the same sorts of things, but that's not factual, it's pretend parity so they don't have to call on Obama for leadership, to rein in his own supporters or at least distance himself and ask them to not vote for him until they rejoin the human race.  Here's a challenge, Obama, say something to your crowds and not with a nod and a wink, really  mean it. You have daughters, speak up for them even if you don't care about women like me?  

by anna shane 2008-04-02 03:08PM | 0 recs
So now he has to denounce and reject

random radio people like he had to reject and denounce random black people? When will Hillary have to reject and denounce her random racist supporters?

by RLMcCauley 2008-04-02 03:25PM | 0 recs
Re: a [redacted] whore"

THANK YOU!

by christinep 2008-04-02 05:23PM | 0 recs
a load

ugh she's a load that should have been swallowed

by sepulvedaj3 2008-04-02 03:28PM | 0 recs
congrats..

for managing to sink below her level.

by JoeCoaster 2008-04-03 07:02AM | 0 recs
Oh my. Stand up comedy routines under attack.

That's just freaking sad. A woman comedian doing stand up and talking about another woman.

I have to listen to white comics talk shit about my people (African-Americans) all of the fucking time and it's supposed to be a joke right? Or should I go blast one when I hear one crack jokes about my people?

by RLMcCauley 2008-04-02 03:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Oh my. Stand up comedy routines under attack.

She's a political radio host, not a comedian.

Please give me the list of white people making fun of black people.

Seriously.

I'd like to know who they are, so I can avoid and/or confront them.

I see more AA folks making fun of their own. Or gays making fun of our own.  Are there still in this day, white doing this crap?

by Si Ella Puede 2008-04-02 03:33PM | 0 recs
She's clearly doing a stand up

routine. She's not hosting a radio show.

I'm sorry. You need a list of comedians that make jokes about black people? Do you watch stand up?

by RLMcCauley 2008-04-02 03:38PM | 0 recs
Re: She's clearly doing a stand up

Actually, no I don't watch it enough!  It might be the needed tonic to what's ailing me on MSNBC, etc.

Can you please tell me some names?

by Si Ella Puede 2008-04-02 03:46PM | 0 recs
Watch stand up.

You'll see it regularly.

As far as high profile people who use the word "nigger" and make fun of black people, Sarah Silverman comes to mind.

There was a Hispanic stand up show on HBO and just about all of the comedians made fun of groups of people they were not part of including black folks.

It's called comedy. It doesn't have to be funny to you though.

by RLMcCauley 2008-04-02 03:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Watch stand up.
I watch a lot of stand up and I don't hear white comics use the "n" word, except the totally ignorant ones like Andrew Dice Clay, and he stopped being funny years ago.
This comment by RR is on the same level as his "comic" rantings, and just as ignorant.
Who exactly were you thinking of?
by skohayes 2008-04-02 04:21PM | 0 recs
Off the top of my head Sarah Silverman has many

nigger jokes and other ethnic slurs as well.

by RLMcCauley 2008-04-02 04:58PM | 0 recs
Is Randi Rhodes the best we can come up with on

the left? It's ridiculous.

It's very sad and unfortunate that the left-leaning talking-heads on tv and radio make no attempt to hide their bias against Clinton and for Obama. Keith Olbermann and Randi Rhodes are a disgrace to their profession. I will watch or listen to either of them. Not now or ever.

As important as this election is, and we have to put up with these clowns.

by mmorang 2008-04-02 03:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Is Randi Rhodes the best we can come up with o

The idea that the press should even try to be objective is relatively new in American history.  In other words, most of the span of our democracy we had media that was clearly ideological and partisan.

by politicsmatters 2008-04-02 03:57PM | 0 recs
Bill Press is the best n/t

by activatedbybush 2008-04-03 07:20AM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "

Do you mean like Ferraro.  Did you miss KO saying "You should be ashamed of yourself HRC for what Ferraro said".  Just checking.

david

by giusd 2008-04-02 03:34PM | 0 recs
Rhodes has always been toxic

It just been "acceptable" when it was Ann Coulter and Laura Ingram she was blazing away at.

Don't blame Obama, his campaign, or any of his supporters but one for this. This is on Randi Rhodes' head alone, and she definitely deserves the boot.

by Texas Gray Wolf 2008-04-02 03:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

Do I like this language? no

Is this so much worse than American political discourse since 1792? no, not even close

This is a stand up act and although it is certainly not to my taste, it is not straight political commentary.

If your complaint is the bad language, well, that's what exists in comedy clubs; they are not 11:30PM network comedy shows or even cable tv.  

If your complaint is the word whore, well, my teenage daughter uses this in many different ways, none of which refer to prostitution.  I don't like the word, but I don't like bitch applied to women either, yet Clinton supporters here seemed to love it when Tina Fey used it and some even talked about the tv shirts they bought that said "bitch is the new black."  

If your complaint is that Rhodes is biased, I can't get that. She doesn't portray herself as a reporter who is trying to be objective, nor more than does Pat Buchanan.

But let me be clear - I don't like this myself and it's not good for the Democratic party which will need to be united to defeat McCain.  

And of course it would be absurd to somehow blame Obama for this.

by politicsmatters 2008-04-02 03:54PM | 0 recs
I'm gone, Randi.

You are so over as far as I'm concerned.  I don't have the words to describe how angry I am.  I'm not a supporter of Obama's, but I would never want to hear Randi or any other talk show personality say something this vile about him.  How would Randi feel to hear similar hate words used against Senator Obama?  Disgusting.

by izarradar 2008-04-02 03:57PM | 0 recs
Thanks for this.

I never knew Ms. Rhodes was so amusing or insightful. I'll have to start checking out her show, and I'll definitely catch her when she comes to my town. Thanks too for the links; I've already written to AA to let them know what a treasure they have in her.

by rabidnation 2008-04-02 04:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hillary is a

Dunno.

I think it is offensive, but I thought Ferro's racist play so over the top offensive that I think it deserves being called called out in the most brutal manner.

Having grown up among Jersey Catholic immigrants, I know she was pulling every racist string- the darkie is taking the job your people deserver- she could think of that might affect Penn.

It is just this crap that turned me off to Hil

by wrb 2008-04-02 04:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hillary is a

Ferraro said exactly what Kerry said, exactly for Andrew Sullivan said, rolling stones in their endorsement and so on and on. She becomes a racist and these others are his supporters so they can say whatever with impunity.

by rocky 2008-04-02 04:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hillary is a

What did Sullivan say?

I missed it.

I respect him though, I've thought he gets a bit unhinged when the talk turns Clinton.

by wrb 2008-04-02 04:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hillary is a

Sully is so thrilled that a black man with a muslim middle name will be such an uplifting message to the world( as a US pres)

by rocky 2008-04-02 06:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hillary is a

Saying that a country with a violent racial history voting a black man to the presidency is an uplifting message is a far cry from saying, on more than one occasion that the only reason someone is even given a consideration is because he's black.

by shalca 2008-04-02 08:59PM | 0 recs
PLEASE waste your energy attacking Randi!!

Oh, PLEASE start a boycott campaign!!

Please, PLEASE, PLEEEEEEEEEASE!!!!

Randi Rhodes can use all the press she can get!  A good, organized "Hate On Randi Rhodes" campaign is just what she needs to get her name out there to Mr. and Mrs. Middle America.  

Who knows, she might end up as big as Howard Stern!

And anything that distracts Hillary's devotees from their campaign of racist attacks on Barack Obama will be good for the Democratic party in November.

Thanks.

by tbetz 2008-04-02 04:23PM | 0 recs
Why don't you respond to the substance

of the post?

Do you think it's cool for Randi Rhodes to call leading female Democrats "effing whores?"

Or are you unable to think of the issue except in terms of how it effects your candidate?

by Radiowalla 2008-04-02 06:59PM | 0 recs
There's no substance to respond to.

People who take Randi Rhodes so seriously, who take any radio entertainer so seriously, that they would engage in a petition campaign to get them fired for verbal offenses committed off-air, are pretty much deluded.

Doing so plays into her desire for attention.  It will get her press notice, and it will be counter-productive to the cause you espouse.

Worst case, Mark Green "tut-tuts" her (because the fact is, she is the biggest ratings draw in Air America's stable) and maybe she apologizes, maybe she doesn't.

It's quite possible that such a campaign will push her to be more strident about Hillary on-air, where she has been fairly reserved up to now, encouraging callers and listeners to fall in love now, but to be prepared to fall in line behind whoever ends up with the nomination.

Do you really want that to happen?

by tbetz 2008-04-02 07:11PM | 0 recs
Sorry.

I totally disagree.
When Democrats allow their leaders to be disrespected and vilified by major or minor media  personalities, they  always lose in the end.
Good grief, haven't we learned a few lessons in the last decade?  How did we allow Al Gore to be vilified?  How did we allow the word "liberal" to become radioactive?  How did we allow John Kerry to be swiftboated?

If Obama is the nominee, don't you want all Democrats to stand up for him when he is trashed?  

Come on!

by Radiowalla 2008-04-02 07:23PM | 0 recs
If Rhodes had said this on the air...

... you might have a case.

As it is, you don't.

That's just the reality of the situation.

But go ahead, play into her hands, and I'll watch your efforts rebound on you.  

by tbetz 2008-04-02 08:29PM | 0 recs
The reality of the situation

is that you chose not to see what is vile and disgusting about this because she said it about two Democratic women that you do not support.  I contend that this attitude always rebounds on the entire party because we allow our members to be trashed and we look away.

If she had called Obama a "*ucking pimp" wouldn't it deserve the outrage of the entire party, not just Obama partisans?

by Radiowalla 2008-04-03 05:56AM | 0 recs
I stopped

I stopped listening to her as much even before the primaries. I probably cut my RR listening time by 60%, now it is probably down by 98%.

I am so sick of her and other like her blaming Hillary, Bill and her supporters for "destroying" the Democratic party! This is BULLSHIT!

The people who are doing harm to the party are people like HER who BASH AND BASH fellow Democrats!

by kevin22262 2008-04-02 04:40PM | 0 recs
Thank you for the diary.

I have already written to AAR to protest this behavior.  I have asked to be taken off their contact list because we will not be listening to their network at all.  It is a shame.  We listened for several years.  First on Sirius then later on XM and suggested the Al Franken program to dozens of our friends.  At that time, we also particularly enjoyed Ring of Fire on the weekends and Sam Seder.  The video is disgusting.  I am also writing Willie Nelson who, according to Randi, is one of her closest friends to let him know what a disappointment Randi is.

Thank you again for the diary.

by macmcd 2008-04-02 04:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you for the diary.

I don't believe Willie Nelson is a friend of Randi.  I'd like to hear it out his mouth.

by stefystef 2008-04-03 07:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Indecency on Radio

Her comments would also be considered indecent by the FCC, especially since they were said during the daytime, when children could be listening.  

by Middleagemom 2008-04-02 05:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Indecency on Radio

It wasn't live.  It was an event sponsored by the station.

by Drummond 2008-04-02 06:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

I've posted here and there on MyDD lately, almost always snarking away at something that I considered inane or hypocritical said by Hillary supporters.

Now I have to join Pacific John in calling out Randi Rhodes on this one.

I haven't been able to listen to Air America for quite a while now (local station bought out by Christian Radio), but I knew she was a loose cannon about two years ago.

She was refreshing to listen to when there was no other way to hear a progressive take on the news, but sometimes she's... unhelpful (to say the least).

by Ddeele 2008-04-02 05:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes

Randi Rhodes is a disgrace. She's been lying about Hillary for a while:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/12/2394 5/2680

by ryeland 2008-04-02 05:16PM | 0 recs
Randi should shut the fuck up and apologize.

This incident did remind me of Blazing Saddles though.

"The Sheriff is a N~[Bell rings]~RRR!"

What did he say?

I think he said the Sheriff is "near."

by Hesiod Theogeny 2008-04-02 05:26PM | 0 recs
She's not a great comedian

But that's not diary worthy. This is obviously a bad attempt at stand-up. I've seen plenty of bad comics in my life. I'm sure others have, too. You can criticize her talent, but anything else is just wanting of censorship.

by bookish 2008-04-02 05:35PM | 0 recs
She's NOT a great comedian AT ALL

If Rhodes is a comedian, then so is Ann Coulter.  Not only is Rhodes NOT A COMEDIAN, she doesn't even have a sense of humor.  On her show (and I've heard quite a few), she's either going off on nasty rants or else being shockingly rude to people.  She's a real downer.

by Larissa 2008-04-02 06:15PM | 0 recs
She's NOT a comedian AT ALL

I meant my title to say this.  

She's NOT a comedian.  She is the flip side of the Rush Limbaugh coin.  That's the best way to describe her and her show.  And she's been that way all along - she's been doing this for many years.  

by Larissa 2008-04-02 06:20PM | 0 recs
Re: She's NOT a comedian AT ALL

In this particular case, it's quite clear she's attempting stand up. You can argue it's quality, but you cannot argue what it is. Sorry.

by bookish 2008-04-03 02:56AM | 0 recs
Re: She's NOT a comedian AT ALL

In that case, you are calling Ann Coulter a stand-up comedian.  She stands up and talks to audiences with deliberate punch lines, too.  She even makes odd faces on the laugh lines.  And therefore, this excuses her from criticism as well as Rhodes (she was doing comedy, so it's OK if she's over the top, she's "just not funny")?

by Larissa 2008-04-03 05:43AM | 0 recs
Re: She's NOT a comedian AT ALL

Turns out she wasn't doing a strictly comedy routine. The video is from "An Evening with Randi Rhodes" hosted by a progressive radio station in San Fran.

http://green960.com/cc-common/mainheadli nes2.html?feed=213008&article=345975 9

She is trying to be funny, and apparently some in the audience found her so. I don't, but that's a matter of taste.

Regardless, she's not a candidate and she's definitely not speaking officially on behalf of a candidate. She's offering her opinion in a manner she hoped would be amusing/cute. I don't like Randi Rhodes style, so I don't listen to her, but I don't think she (or Ann Coulter) should be censored...not even for content I find disagreeable. And I certainly don't agree with the diarist that she should lose her job at AirAmerica for it.

by bookish 2008-04-03 09:12AM | 0 recs
Re: She's NOT a comedian AT ALL

When Air America first came out, I bought a Sirius radio subscription.  When Air America moved to XM, I bought an XM subscription.  I have listened to lots of Randi Rhodes shows over the years.  I know what I'm talking about.

Those of us who know have been trying to tell the people here calling her a "comedian" this all along - she doesn't do stand-up.  This was an Air America event where she was supposed to be gaining new listeners or at least not losing the ones they already have.  She failed miserably.

She should lose her job is she's a losing proposition for the network.  The network is not a charity.  This is not censorship - this is a business decision.  I was a loyal listener until their lineup turned into Limbaugh Left.  I no longer tune in channel 167.  I found other things to listen to.  AA execs will make a BUSINESS DECISION about how many of the people like me (formerly an above and beyond loyal listener) out there they can afford to lose, and decide if it's worth it to put up with Rhodes.

by Larissa 2008-04-03 11:10AM | 0 recs
Randi Rhodes is a whore herself - for a long time

she better shut up, and run from radio biz, because she is a disaster on a radio an nobody listening her

by engels 2008-04-02 05:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

She's hilarious!  Obnoxious, but hilarious.  Is she like this on her radio show?!

by Drummond 2008-04-02 05:56PM | 0 recs
Much less so.

She tends to be bitchy, usually in an entertaining way;   but I often find myself switching to something else when she gets on a repetitive rant.

She programs for people who might hear 15-20 minutes of her show, not for people who turn her on and leave her on.

Now that WWRL has dumped Thom Hartmann for Ed Schultz -- I'm guessing that Jones Network offered them so much money to give Schultz a New York station that they just couldn't refuse it -- I'll probably start listening to Thom Hartmann delayed via podcast instead of Randi.  There's much more food there for the soul and for the mind.

by tbetz 2008-04-02 07:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Much less so.

We have Thom Hartman.  I thought Schultz was in the afternoon conflicting with Rhodes actually.

Hartman and Seder (not my favorite actually) are the only two AA programs we have.  I wish we had Rachel Maddow and the English woman.

by Drummond 2008-04-02 09:33PM | 0 recs
Schultz used to be live opposite Rhodes.

When Al Franken went off to run for the Senate, Schultz used that opportunity to move his live show up three hours so he could snatch up on many stations the noon-3 ET slot that Franken was vacating.

However, many of his original stations delay his show so it airs in its old time slot.

by tbetz 2008-04-02 10:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hillary is a [redacted]

Those of you who defend her did you approve of Ann Coulter referring to John Edwards as a faggot. I sure didn't. We on the left neither need or want our own Ann Coulter. We are better than that. If you can't see that then I suggest you are more than likely a Republican troll just here to cause trouble like some we know of who want an armed invasion of a church. I'm not calling any names but his initials are rejectandenounce

by RedstateLib 2008-04-02 06:16PM | 0 recs
Randi Rhodes is a hack.

Just like all the radio hacks on either side of the political divide.

Add Taylor Marsh to that list, too... If she ever gets a legitimate radio gig.

by Bob Johnson 2008-04-02 06:24PM | 0 recs
I can't even believe

you're defending this.  You have become the very definition of hypocrisy.

by joanneleon 2008-04-02 08:32PM | 0 recs
Re: I can't even believe

He called Rhandi a hack. How are you construing that as a defense of her?

As for Taylor Marsh, I was EXACTLY reminded of Rhodes by Taylor long before today: low information to partisanship ratio.

by tessellated 2008-04-02 09:23PM | 0 recs
Re: I can't even believe

You're right.  I misinterpreted.  I thought he was blowing it off as no big deal.

by joanneleon 2008-04-02 09:43PM | 0 recs
What's he defending?

Is "hack" suddenly a compliment?

Back away from the ledge, please.

by tbetz 2008-04-02 09:26PM | 0 recs
Re: What's he defending?

Back away from what ledge?  What an asshole.

by joanneleon 2008-04-02 09:45PM | 0 recs
The temporarily insane should stay away...

... from sharp objects and high places.

by tbetz 2008-04-02 09:58PM | 0 recs
Apologies

I misinterpreted your comment.  I thought you were saying that she is no different than any other radio host and that these comments are no worse than the things they say.  I don't think I've ever heard any of these radio hosts call someone a "f**king whore" thought admittedly I don't listen to them.  I'm pretty sure they'd be called out for it though, and probably lose their jobs.

Anyway, sorry, my bad.

by joanneleon 2008-04-02 09:42PM | 0 recs
That's fine. Thanks for the apology.

Randi Rhodes and the rest of the political talkers are the biggest "attention whores" in the world. Ironic that she would use that word to describe the way Clinton was going after superdelegates.

I can't listen to any of them from either side of the aisle. Most of what they say is vulgar schtick designed to get their names in the news.

by Bob Johnson 2008-04-03 06:04AM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

She obviously needs to exercise something more than her mouth. What a tub of lard and the long jacket doesn't hide it.

by coolofthenight 2008-04-02 06:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

Oh, knock it off. If someone said that about Hillary you'd go apoplectic.

by rhetoricus 2008-04-03 08:28AM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

 who asked you moron

by coolofthenight 2008-04-03 03:18PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

Ba-zing! You are SO clever.

by rhetoricus 2008-04-03 03:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

I take it you don't read your own comments. Ba-zing indeed Moron.

by coolofthenight 2008-04-03 06:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

 Who asked you moron?

by coolofthenight 2008-04-03 03:18PM | 0 recs
where is the video from?

just curious about the setting where this was recorded.  

[not surprised that Randi said that.  in general i love her show and think she's very funny but am finding the show pretty much unlistenable lately due to the bias and uncritical echoing of whatever the latest anti-HRC party line is.]

by chiefscribe 2008-04-02 07:05PM | 0 recs
Looks she is suffering from severe vocabulary..

..I'm not sure what she took but this is not a comic routine..sorry..rather pathetic..

by louisprandtl 2008-04-02 07:14PM | 0 recs
And she has hosted Bill Clinton to a lot of

fanfare on her show in the past.  Jesus H Christ.

When did the LEFT morph into Rush Limbaugh hate speech? Are we self destructing?

by Molee 2008-04-02 07:16PM | 0 recs
Yes n/t

by Pacific John 2008-04-02 07:31PM | 0 recs
With friends like these...

Wow, that's pretty unbelievable.  In fact, the things happening in this primary are pretty unbelievable.

I'm not a regular listener of Randi because I don't get Air America.  But you can be sure I'll never listen to her now.

This is so over the line.  I can't even believe the vicious attacks on Hillary and the double standards that we witness everyday online, in the media, etc.    This type of treatment would never be allowed toward other candidates.  It's just unbelievable.  You know, I've never even thought of calling Obama or any of our candidates vile names like that.  Several years ago, I didn't even want Hillary to run, partly because the attacks on her in the 90s were so upsetting.  But now that she is running, for whatever reason, I have felt the need to defend her even when she wasn't my first choice in candidates.  The worse these attacks get, the more personal I've been taking it.  I'm not sure why.

If somebody attacked Obama like that, I'd defend him.  Why aren't the leaders in the left blogosphere standing up against this stuff?  I'd never stand for anybody talking like that about any of our own.

Why is it that this is tolerated against Hillary?  I really don't understand it and I'm having a really hard time with it.  I'm worried.  I'm more than worried.  What has happened to this party?  What happened to the netroots, the place that gave me such a sense of relief, empowerment and hope these last few years?

by joanneleon 2008-04-02 08:11PM | 0 recs
Rhandi went ballistic after the Mar. 5th primaries

I posted this same comment on the other diary regarding Ms. Rhodes.

I have listened to Rhandi for years, and I was impressed with how she helped Cindy Shehan with her protests in Crawford, Texas.  Rhandi helped make this protest national news on her AAR program, and Cindy has always been thankful to Rhandi for it.  I will always be grateful to her for that era also.

However, I am just like the rest of you regarding her recent turn for the worse on the radio.  I cannot listen to her radio show any longer without subjecting myself to a stroke or worse! Although I had listened to her enough to know that she supported Obama, she tried to be fair it seemed until March 5th when Hillary won Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island.  I listened to her the next day, and she went bonkers for Obama.  That primary was the camel that broke her back IMO.  She has no reasoning with anyone who calls her show anymore.

The thing that makes this ordeal so sad is that Rhandi absolutely seemed to love President Bill Clinton and always said great things about him over the years.  She even met him in NYC at a party earlier this year and had her photo taken with him; bragging about it on her show.  He must be so dissapointed like the rest of us on how bad she has turned on the Clintons.

Rhandi, shame on you!  How could you do this to your former fans and supporters.  You always have stated that you are a Democrat to the heart.  How could you turn so badly on any one in your party so quickly and ruthlessly!

by mcctx 2008-04-02 08:31PM | 0 recs
Dammit!

Randi's off her meds again! Of course, they were never particularly effective, anyway. Someone needs to forcibly sedate her.

By the way, is it just me, or does anyone else think it's offensive when people (like Randi) refer to something they dislike as "gay"? Why is that sort of bigotry allowed? We should be on her ass for that, as well.

by sricki 2008-04-02 08:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes

Her voting record of most "corporate issues" is pretty awesomely progressive. You should take a look at the assessment over at www.progressivepunch.org They assemble a huge database of votes on dozens of issues. Then they focus on issues where the split is party line. Then they take the six most progressive members of the senate and compare the Democrat's votes to that group so that you can see how often each votes in alliance with the most progressive senators.

I'm not saying you need to switch allegiance, but if you have concerns, you'll likely feel a lot better. I haven't had a single person I've sent to that site not tell me that her voting record  was helluva lot different than they thought it was.

by Little Otter 2008-04-02 09:10PM | 0 recs
Randi "no-class" Rhodes

I noticed that Randi memorizes all her jokes in her radio show. Have you ever felt the impression that her wisecracks were rehearsed the day before and written down on pieces of paper?

Oh, and did I mention she has no class?

by kingsbridge77 2008-04-02 09:14PM | 0 recs
Figures

I'm not surprised. Randi Rhodes has been a hack for years. I used to sometimes listen to her on Air America 3 or 4 years ago and didn't much care for her then even when I agreed with her basic positions.

Not much has changed, really. I'm an Obama supporter. Evidently she is too. Evidently she is still a hack. I am so tired of this ugly infighting. This isn't the first time that Rhodes has been an embarrassment to the side she supports. I'll be glad when this primary is over.

by tessellated 2008-04-02 09:17PM | 0 recs
Re: Figures
 Why do people give ratings to that f*ing whore?
If you all stopped listening to shit on tv and radio and commenting about it, there would be less of that out there. Don't listen to it, don't advertise it with your comments. Stop feeding the repugnant rats.
by RC01 2008-04-02 10:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Figures

I haven't listened to her in years. I had heard enough approx 3-4 years ago when I was giving Air America a try.

I try to listen to and read a wide variety of opinion. I make it a point to hear out points of view (right and left) that I don't agree with.

by tessellated 2008-04-03 06:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

I agree. The reason you just gave is one of the reasons why I switched from John Edwards to Hillary Clinton after he dropped out. I live in North Carolina and was registered as an independent. I could not vote in the Democratic primary as an indy so I switched to Democrat so I could vote for Clinton.

Hillary will make a great president.

check this interview with Cramer....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/ 23925313#23925313

it is worth a watch and shows that she is really got her thumb on the mechanics and inner workings of this economy. I really think that Hillary is not a liberal but a nationalist, and that is exactly what we need now for our economy, our future as a nation, and most of all our posterity.

by realmichaud 2008-04-02 10:21PM | 0 recs
White Male Here & A Big Fan Of Randi

I'm not going to object to Randi using that term the same way I wouldn't object to African-American comedians using the n word. When it comes to women I avoid using the b word, the w word (two syllable pronounciation BTW) or the big motherfucker, the c word. Women can use it all they want though. I do love motherfucker though. That is my favorite and I'm not giving up that motherfucker for any motherfucking b w c.  

I'm a fan of political punditry and a fan of comedy. When I listen to Randi fill air time there is a stand up element to what she does. Thanks for the clip. If she ever comes to Los Angeles I'll wait in line for tickets. I think it is kind of funny when the free speech standards of comedy overlap with the tight ass world of political punditry. Probably one of the reasons I can listen to Rev. Wright and not have to utter the obligatory "I found what he said outrageous". I read what he wrote about Italians killing Jesus and found it hysterical and I'm half Italian. It also gave me a bond with my Jewish brothers.

Lighten up motherfuckers. Being that Randi is a Goddess she has feminist cred from on high.

by HL Mungo 2008-04-02 11:43PM | 0 recs
Re: White Male Here & A Big Fan Of Randi

Oh my.

You must be a total nincompoop.

by switching sides 2008-04-03 12:08AM | 0 recs
I hope that you enjoy

standing in the gutter with her.

by activatedbybush 2008-04-03 07:19AM | 0 recs
"How gay is that?" Randi Rhodes

"How gay is that?"

That was enough for me, I didn't need to listen any further.

She's a despicable person.  All Obama supporters are being tarred with this woman's vile self.  I suggest an immediate distancing is in order.

She is giving the left a bad name.

by switching sides 2008-04-03 12:07AM | 0 recs
Re: "How gay is that?" Randi Rhodes

Oh c'mon. I'm gay. Randi's a HUGE gay personhood and gay rights supporter. She's makes such jokes from a staunch ally position. Stephanie Miller makes gay jokes all the time too, and she too is a huge ally. Lighten up.

by rhetoricus 2008-04-03 07:53AM | 0 recs
Re: "How gay is that?" Randi Rhodes

Gay rights supporter?  Who cares?

So if I give a few hundred bucks to black causes can I go around saying n****r all the time?

by switching sides 2008-04-03 08:00AM | 0 recs
It's not the same.

"Gay" is not the same kind of word as the n-word.

Randi is not just a gay rights supporter, she's an active, vocal  ally. She's close friends with Melissa Etheridge and promotes her outlook and music on the show, she raised her lesbian sister's daughter after she died, etc. "Gay" is in her family, and her ally status is very personal.

Her "how gay is that" stuff is tongue in cheek, and is usually poking fun at homophobic people on the right.

by rhetoricus 2008-04-03 11:59AM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes

I used to love Randi Rhodes. But, I've given up on Air America, altogether, and never listen anymore, just like I don't watch KOlbermann or Tweety anymore, just like I don't visit Daily Kos anymore, or TPM. None of them are offering political analysis, or political news, or reasoned, smart commentary.

They are just no different anymore than wingnut radio, FOX News, or Free Republic. There is simply no different; just the shallow, vacuous, caricature of the other side.

So, bounce your boobies, Randi, because, without a brain apparently, it's all you got, babe.

by Tennessean 2008-04-03 04:49AM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes

I'm like you.  I stopped listening to AirAmerican, with the exception of catching Rachel Maddow every once in a while.

The station has really dropped down after they got rid of "Morning Sedition", "Majority Report" and Mike Malloy.

Even Mike Malloy wouldn't talk crazy like that.  Only a woman can beat up another woman like no man can..  

by stefystef 2008-04-03 07:19AM | 0 recs
Even Thom Hartmann

and Bobby Kennedy Jr.?

Air America is not all bad.

by kevin22262 2008-04-03 07:30PM | 0 recs
What is it with women?

I've seen more women tearing down women in this campaign.  Dowd, the NARAL lady, the women Senators slapping the face of one of their colleagues, and now this second rate talk show host?

As a man, I don't understand it entirely.   This is a historic opportunity.  It's an opportunity to demonstrate to a generation of women that anything is possible.  Leave the fact that she is more qualified than Obama by a sigificant margin.   Obama is a good man, and a good candidate.  Could be a great candidate in 8 years.  

What is it with women who resent the success and power of other women, who fall for the charms and shallow appeals of untested men?   I just don't get it.

by activatedbybush 2008-04-03 06:37AM | 0 recs
SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME RANDI

Is the Green family, who are propping up Air America - are they actually down with this? I think that could get Randi ditched ala Imus, seriously. But oh, whoops, my bad, it's now politically correct & fashionable to crush people with actual accomplishments & history under their belt in favor of hope & change.

The sourcewatch wiki is fascinating- about the advertising boycotts. Things that make you go hmmmm.

Here's the regular wiki.  

Hey, wouldn't it be sooooooooooooooo funny if we took the only successful Dem. presidency in living memory & made it a mockery then ran it into the ground? hahahhaaaaa And then, if the left became the right- oh man, that would be too funny.  You know, Geraldine Ferraro = David Dukes- that kind of thing. The NCLB voters will never know the difference!

I just have a giant permanent shiver running down my back where my spine used to be, don't mind me. And Huffpo, I've always had my doubts about that.

Hey- the X-Files tried to tell us: FIGHT THE FUTURE

It's not - to me, merely the anti- or pro-Clintonism, it's so far beyond horserace-- it's the nature of grinding actual pioneers & progressives under one's heel with such gusto- bizzaro world continues, the left switches places with the right.

Sad. Weird. Uncomfortable. Worrisome.  

by bluemoon 2008-04-03 07:02AM | 0 recs
Yeah.. about Randi

I'm not writing this to excuse Randi, just to explain her a little. I've listened to her for years, interspersed with dozens of "that's it, she's jumped the couch, I won't tune in again" moments. I've had very ambivalent feelings about her.

1) She's a hell of a researcher, and a great journalist, apart from the rants and bouts of rudeness to callers. I get information from Randi I don't get anywhere else. She also has amazing interviews with prosecutors, Senators, etc.

2) When she gets on a rant, she can go WAY over the top. As I said, I can't count the number of times I've been horrified and written her off, only to go back for the journalism, having to say "That's just Randi."

"Whore" is common Randi parlance when Randi's speaking of someone she believes has "sold out" or gotten into bed with evil (like Rupert Murdoch, Monsanto, Scaife, etc), she uses it pretty often to refer to men too.

3) Randi stuck up for Hillary for the LONGEST time under torrents of abuse from the right. She feels betrayed by what she perceives as Hillary's ethical compromises. Randi's anger at Hillary is the powerful kind of "jilted" rage that someone feels when they believe in someone who then they feel profoundly let-down by. She reacted the same way after having defended Bill in the face of his "trouser lie." She really loses it when she feels lied to.

4) Randi is very principled, in her harsh, gauche, foul-mouthed way. In this way she is nothing like Coulter. She is a passionate lover of truth and justice and just flips out when she feels like people are being dishonest or machiavellian. (I'm not arguing anything about Hillary, I'm just saying these are Randi's perceptions, which she is reacting to.)

5) Listeners' rage at Randi's language choices I think is well-grounded.. I understand the argument that people--especially women, should not call other women names that have sexually degrading connotations. It feeds into a greater cultural dysfunction, to say the least.

by rhetoricus 2008-04-03 08:19AM | 0 recs
Re: this video

I finally got the video to work. She never said this on the radio. This is typical trash-mouth stand-up to a stand-up audience, not anything she said on the air. I'm sorry, I can't get excited about this.

Lighten up, people.

by rhetoricus 2008-04-03 08:33AM | 0 recs
This has now be picked up on the front page

of the Huffington Post!

Nice going, Randi.  You are now busted but good!  And thanks to Pacific John for spreading the word.

by Radiowalla 2008-04-03 08:49AM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes: "Hillary is a [redacted]

I don't get AA, & I've never hear Rhodes' show; but I can't imagine a context in which that would be acceptable language on a news-oriented broadcast.  Doesn't sound good to me.

Of course, if the redacted word were "media", there might be a case; but assuming it was mere profanity, I have to object.

Now, Kathy Griffin could pull that off & make it funny; but a news commentator?  No; not even as opinion.

by rb608 2008-04-03 09:11AM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes:

Disgusting quote (and I support Obama)

by steampunkx 2008-04-03 09:52AM | 0 recs
Re: Randi Rhodes

Wow.  That is so far beyond unacceptable I don't even know where to start.  I just read on HuffPo that she's been suspended, and I couldn't agree more with Air America's decision.  Every woman in the universe should be offended by her comments.

For the record, I'm an Obama supporter.

by writerswrite 2008-04-03 10:03AM | 0 recs

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