The California Nurses Association versus the Truth

The California Nurses Association's temporary restraining order (TRO) against SEIU was vacated today (4/22). But what is more interesting is how the TRO was obtained in the first place.

CNA said "5 male staffers" were "harassing and stalking" CNA Board members." As video footage proved, the "stalkers" were actually two middle-aged women taking time off from their jobs at Catholic Healthcare Partners hospitals in Ohio to talk to CNA board members about how their top employee, Rose Ann Demoro, is leading an effort to stop them from organizine a union with SEIU.

Here's the footage of what CNA calls "5 male staffers":

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGw2QJTgw4I

In recent weeks I have been stunned by the California Nurses Association's fantastical relationship with the truth.

I spent the last three years (as an SEIU/District 1199 staffer) working on the CHP organizing campaign in Ohio, and I was here when CHP workers won the right to have a election free from management interference. The women on the video, an RN and a respiratory therapist, have something to be proud of. To win a neutrality agreement from the 6th largest employer in Ohio takes a hell of a fight. But then came something awful.

When CNA got its TRO, they were trying to stop the the CHP workers in the video from talking to members of the California Nurses Association about what happened next.

After no participation whatsoever in a public, three-year campaign, around 36 CNA staffers showed up six days before the biggest union elections in Ohio history, to run a full-fledged anti-union campaign. They did what the boss agreed not to do. They lied to workers, calling the union, "sleazy,""illegal," a "company union," a "dictatorship;" saying the union wanted to "silence RNs", to "gag RNs," to "force RNs into a non-RN union," and to "deny RNs a choice." The CNA called union leaders "chauvenists" and sought to paint union staff as male perpetrators of violence against women. They insulted and diminished non-RNs, saying RNs ought not organize with "housekeepers and dietary workers."

CNA organizers snuck into CHP hospitals, hijacked the tube system and called nurses inside the hospital, interfering with patient care. They leafleted outside the hospitals during shift changes, and called workers night and day at their homes for one reason only: over and over, the CNA told workers to VOTE NO, to vote AGAINST unionizing.

One CNA organizer was arrested, and CHP got a (real) restraining order but the damage was done. Workers talked about a poisoned environment, fear and confusion.

Since last month, over and over I am confronted with the CNA's total disregard for labor solidarity, and utter contempt for the truth.

Right now, CNA is raiding and seeking to break SEIU and AFSCME unions in California, Nevada and Texas. It's incredibly destructive.

I hold out one real hope - that CHP workers will not be shut down by CNA's misguided leadership; that they will tell their stories to rank-and-file CNA members; and that rank-and-file members of the CNA will support their sisters and brothers in Ohio by standing up to Rose Ann Demoro.

A few more whoppers from the CNA this week:

What CNA points to as evidence of SEIU hurting women is actually an SEIU organizer, a young woman named Rachael Holland, being attacked. Her photo was posted under false pretexts by the CNA after SEIU members protested CNA's union busting activities at the Labor Notes conference in Dearborn Michigan. Here is her story:

www.openleft.com/showComment.do?commentI d=58274

And I just can't resist this remarkable little fraud. What CNA calls "AN SEIU Member" turns out to be Nancy Lewis, the CNA Commissioner for Region 12. Whether she is an SEIU member or not, the blog post rest upon false authority, harping on her "self-shame" at having an SEIU membership, without mentioning her leadership role in the CNA.

www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/13/151439/ 114/825/493447

Ironically, Nancy Lewis posts as LucretiaMott. The real Lucretia Mott did not certainly believe in resting on false authority - or authority of any sort - but on truth, writing, "My conviction led me to adhere to the sufficiency of the light within us, resting on truth for authority, not on authority for truth."

Tags: california nurses, CNA, dearborn, SEIU, truth (all tags)

Comments

70 Comments

Re: The California Nurses Association versus the T

Thanks for the diary.  

I was waiting for someone from 1199 to weigh in on this, because it's a local that I'm familiar with.

by Mostly 2008-04-22 09:29PM | 0 recs
Your Comments are without merit

But they do faithfully repeat SEIU's on-going talking point of denying what happened in Dearborn.  Two busses of burly male SEIU staffers attacked a peaceful gathering of trade unionists, physically and with violence, injuring multiple people and sending one to the hospital.  There are now 20 different first-person accounts collected here, by everyone from independent journalists and activists to dissident SEIU members.  Denying these facts is Orwellian.

It's important for a number of reasons that we not let this incident be covered up.  Most of all, it highlights why RNs, who see themselves as professionals with a sacred calling, generally don't want representation by SEIU.  It should be noted that the only people not surprised at SEIU's  behavior in Dearborn were the nurses, who had made plans to flee out the back if anything happened.  

It also raises important questions about Andy Stern's SEIU.  What kind of leader in this day and age would think of directing such an attack?  The questions remain for Andy Stern: will you apologize for the attack, pay the bills of the hospitalized woman, and renounce the use of violence?

And finally, it's important context to what is happening to nurse leaders in California.  We are pulling together a diary of the different incidents, but rest assured that RNs do not appreciate multiple visits to their workplace, home, as they're driving, and with family by out-of-state SEIU staffers, mostly male.  There has been no violence in California, but women have been harrassed--obviously not by the people they feature in the video, but by the people filming, driving, and completely unconnected to the video.

We will have more information on SEIU's plan against both CNA and UHW in California, but SEIU is attempting to raid/bust CNA in a San Diego election (Scripps Encinitas) and a Fresno election (St. Agnes) as we speak.

Your pretense to defend AFSCME, our sisters and brothers in the AFL-CIO, is laughable.

by California Nurses Shum 2008-04-23 11:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Your Comments are without merit

"Two busses of burly male SEIU staffers attacked a peaceful gathering of trade unionists, physically and with violence..."

No, that's not what happened.

Why does CNA keep insisting on lying about this?

Let's hear from the Dearborn police (as anyone who is from the Detroit-area knows, not the friendliest bunch or most likely to allow violent attacks to go unnoticed):

Dearborn Police Sgt. Derek Hadder told blogger Josh Richman that "it's definitely been blown way out of proportion," he said. "Once police arrived, they left without any problem... It was done within minutes, and I don't know why it's been blown out of proportion as it has."

I don't know either. But it does make me wonder why CNA continues to spread lies about the Dearborn protest.

by Nate1212 2008-04-23 11:20AM | 0 recs
Let's go to the eyewitnesses

Here are 5 of the 20 eyewitness accounts collected below.  Andy Stern, there is no doubt about what your mob did, and nurses will never forget it.  Your on-going denials of this violence only make it worse. For the other 15 eyewitness accounts we've collected, go here.

Steve Early, journalist : A rent-a-mob of rowdy, punch-throwing demonstrators burst into Labor Notes' biennial labor conference in Dearborn, Michigan, last Saturday night. When it was over, the local cops had been called in, one demonstrator had collapsed and died and SIEU's chieftain Andy Stern had etched himself another benchmark for intolerance... Several leaders of the pack wore purple bandanas to conceal their faces; others started pushing, shoving, and throwing punches when their path was blocked by the linked arms of a hastily assembled but experienced group of Labor Notes marshals (among them, veterans of many past encounters with far more formidable Teamster goon squads).

Bill Ornash, trade unionist and journalist By now most of you have heard of a scandalous physical attack on the gathering mobilized by the leadership of SEIU.  At least two bus loads-some say more-of SEIU staffers were determined to invade the banquet and take it over. Some wore masks.

David Moberg, journalist According to eyewitness accounts, the most aggressive leaders of the group--some with purple bandanas on their faces--hit and kicked some of the Labor Notes staff and supporters who were blocking the doors. But another line of conference attendees locked arms to hold back the rest of the crowd.

The non-partisan staff at Labor Notes The Service Employees International Union turned their dispute with the California Nurses Association violent by attacking a labor conference April 12, injuring several and sending an American Axle striker to the hospital.

A recently retired member of United Auto Workers Local 235, Dianne Feeley, suffered a head wound after being knocked to the ground by SEIU International staff and local members. Other conference-goers--members of the Teamsters, UAW, UNITE HERE, International Longshoremen's Association, and SEIU itself--were punched, kicked, shoved, and pushed to the floor. Dearborn police responded and evicted the three bus loads of SEIU International staff and members of local and regional health care unions.

Ken Paff, Teamsters The advance line of SEIU staffers led the chanting group forward and pushed and punched and tried to break in, and almost did. My friend Dan Campbell had his glasses broken from a glancing punch.

by California Nurses Shum 2008-04-23 01:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Let's go to the eyewitnesses

The same recycled statement over and over again. Many containing outright lies.

There's video out now, people should watch it and make up their own mind. The SEIU press release has links to all the youtube video footage:
http://www.shameoncna.com/

The question still remains...why would CNA lie about this?

by Nate1212 2008-04-24 08:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Let's go to the eyewitnesses

Why indeed? The answer is that CNA has no reason to lie about it. Because CNA is not lying about it.

SEIU insists there was no violence and consistently quotes one police officer who was called to the scene after the attack began. On the other hand, CNA has collected 20+ eyewitness accounts from a variety of non-partisan interests, including several SEIU members and leaders, who all confirm that SEIU instigated violence against a peaceful gathering of likeminded labor activists.

by NursePower 2008-04-24 08:56AM | 0 recs
Actually, no

none of your supposed eye witnesses are seiu members or leaders. That was debunked in the original post here.

by Nate1212 2008-04-24 11:53AM | 0 recs
Go read the 20 accounts

Off the top of my head, I remember at least 2 who are SEIU members.

Have you forgotten that you face a civil war in your own ranks because your international president is trying to reduce democracy in the organization and concentrate all power in his CEO's office?

by California Nurses Shum 2008-04-25 09:09AM | 0 recs
Re: Go read the 20 accounts

Oh for crying out loud. Everyone can watch the boring video and see for themselves.

by Organize1199 2008-04-25 09:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Let's go to the eyewitnesses

Since when was the testimony of eye witnesses null and void?

Oh, I forgot, you rarely fight for your workers in grievance hearings that are based on testimony of individuals. The employer's video tape is good enough for you to sign off on any kind of discipline the employer wants.

Of course 1199 would consider eye witness accounts as naught.

Thank heavens CNA represents me and will fight for me and my patients.

by Ludlow 2008-04-24 09:23AM | 0 recs
Fine if you like eyewitness so much...

As details unfold about the events of last weekend, clear and compelling evidence is emerging to contradict the CNA's account of what happened in Dearborn. To those seated inside the banquet hall, what appeared to be happening near the door was only a minor tussle. Outside, however, a scuffle occurred between protestors trying to enter and conference organizers trying to keep them out. Contrary to the CNA's description of what happened, however, many of the protestors were being pushed, shoved, and even assaulted by conference participants. In fact, photos on the CNA and Labor Notes websites offered as "evidence" of violence by protestors actually depict the peaceful protestors under attack by conference security. The following are some of the reported and eyewitness accounts that contradict the CNA's portrayal of the event:

* "We were in the middle of our meal, when all of a sudden the private security guards hired by the CNA whisked all of the CNA people out of the room. The doors were locked, and people formed a human chain to block the entrance. People were trying to get inside. The whole squabble lasted about a minute and a half. I don't think anyone got in. There was no violence whatsoever. One lady got hurtâ€"she was standing by the door and got bumped in the head by the door. The conference organizers tried to make a bigger issue out of it. They tried to suggest to the woman that she had been hit, but she denied it. She insisted no one hit her. It was done and over with in less than two minutes."

--Sandy Morales, RN, SEIU Member, New York City

* "A spokeswoman for the Dearborn mayor told BNA April 14 that there were no arrests and the SEIU members dispersed without incident when the police arrived on the scene. She added that one woman was 'startled' when the SEIU group came into the hotel resulting in her falling and hitting her head. The fall did not occur because of 'criminal action,' she added"

--"Dispute Heats Up Between SEIU, CNA Over Elections in Ohio, Las Vegas Hospitals," Daily Labor Report, April 15, 2008

* "I was at the banquet, talking quietly with people at my table. Then there was a ruckus in the back of the room. Someone went to the microphone to talk about what the CNA did in Ohio, and the conference organizers tried to take the microphone away. There was some back and forth, and some shouting, but no physical violence of any sort. We continued to chat at our table."

--Sally Baker, RN, Springfield, Ohio

* "Dearborn Police Sgt. Derek Hadder tells me no reports of a crime or charges have been filed, yet he has been fielding media calls from across the nation. 'It's definitely been blown way out of proportion,' he said. 'Once police arrived, they left without any problem. It was done within minutes, and I donâ€<sup>TM<sup>t know why it's been blown out of proportion as it has.'"

--Josh Richman, http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/category /general, "Update at 2:05 P.M. Monday," April 14, 2008

* "Our plan, and my own goal, was to march peacefully into the board room and support our CHP sisters as they spoke and handed out literature about their stolen right to vote for their union. However, the CNA's supporters in the room ran out to confront us and used physical force to prevent our group from entering the ballroom and voicing our dissent. After only a few feet I found myself dodging out of the way of getting tackled. They started to attack us. I ran past about three men who tried to stop me by tackling me. I was about 10 feet away from the ballroom room door at the point that I was slammed into the ground..."

--Rachael Holland, SEIU/1199 organizer, Ohio at http://www.openleft.com/showComment.do?c ommentId=58274

* "Here's what happened: We stood outside and protested peacefully. Then the doors came open and we went inside. We didn't go into the banquet room, only the hallways. We had friendly conversations with people in the hallways and we chanted: 'Shame on CNA.' The only violent part was Labor Notes pushing us out of the building. It was a peaceful, loud demonstration. We wanted to make our voices heard. I can't believe that CNA is claiming that we were violent, after what they did to the CHP workers."

--Eugene Jordan, Sr, hospital employee, SEIU member, Cleveland, Ohio

by Nate1212 2008-04-24 11:53AM | 0 recs
Re: Fine if you like eyewitness so much...

The more evidence the better. Each speaker, each photographer, each filmer brings an aspect and a perspective to the event. Put them all together and you can get a sense of what happened.

by Ludlow 2008-04-24 01:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Let's go to the eyewitnesses

Listen to a short audio clip of an SEIU member, Joe Losbaker, SEIU Local 73 Executive Board, recalling the violent disruption
by his own union brothers and sisters at Labor Notes 2008

http://media.switchpod.com/users/fightba cknews/200804iosbakerlabornotes.mp3

by RN4MERCY 2008-04-24 09:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Let's go to the eyewitnesses

Joe Iosbaker is a guy who told me that the only good SEIU local is his SEIU local, and that the only right way to organize was through the normal NLRB process. He also said that disrupting a Saturday night banquet for Labor Notes was "far worse" than disrupting union elections for 8,000 Ohio families.

So, I really don't know what to make of Joe. I suspect he is well meaning. But if we did what Joe wants to do, we are demanding of ourselves that we fail. It is impossible and incredibly self-defeating to go from 8% union density to, say, 30% union density, Joe's way.

by Organize1199 2008-04-25 09:45AM | 0 recs
Re: Your Comments are without merit

The police report says nothing of what happened before they got there. That is what is important in this discussion.

According to eye witnesses, SEIU busted into the hotel, then pushed and shoved and punched their way trying to get into the ballroom.

As a CNA nurse who has protested in many a venue, that has never been our method.  And for good reason. When we protest we want good press because we want to make a difference for the better.

SEIU's violence in Detroit has set unionism back. All the true union busters are sitting back with a big smile on their faces.

by Ludlow 2008-04-24 09:16AM | 0 recs
Re: Your Comments are without merit

For what it's worth, Shum's lies are wonderful.

1. "two buses of burly male SEIU staffers"

THREE factual errors in ONE PHRASE.

(a) First of all (and most innocuously) it was a lot more than two buses. Hundreds of SEIU members showed up to support CHP workers attacked by the Rose Ann Demoro's California Nurses Association.
The California Nurses Association ran a massive anti-union campaign in Ohio last month, and workers who still want to organize are now faced with overcoming the attacks from the CNA, just as they have overcome attacks from their employer.

Such whiners, these CNA spokesmen. If you act like the boss, you get treated like the boss. Demoro was the invited keynote speaker at the Dearborn banquet, and she is the one remaining person standing between 8,000 CHP employees and their union. She is acting like the boss.

CHP employees have already spent more than three years winning a fair-rules election agreement from their employer, the 6th largest employer in Ohio. You better believe they aren't going to throw in the towel because an unaccountable and unelected craft union boss like Rose Ann Demoro thinks she knows better.

The other two factual errors are really just lies, clearly intended to paint a false picture for the reader.

(b) The "burly male" bit. The members were mostly caregivers from Michigan and Ohio. Like most caregivers, they were predominantly women. Many are elderly. A lot of people brought their children. There are pictures.

(c) That the two bus-loads of burly males are "staffers". In fact, at least 90% of the protesters were rank-and-file union members and their families.

The mind of Shum

So where did Shum get his "burly males"? It doesn't take an FBI profiler to figure that one out.

There is a widely circulated photo from the Dearborn event depicting one burly male SEIU/District 1199 organizer, Frank Hornick.

CNA spokesman Shum Preston posted this very photo on his Flickr site the day after the Dearborn event - alongside one other photo, which turned out to be SEIU organizer Rachael Holland howling in pain. The real story of those pictures is here:

www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2008/04/12/cna- seiu-come-to-blows-in-michigan/#comment- 52169

I was impressed with his capacity for bald-faced bullshit when CNA spokesman Shum Preston used the photos as fake evidence of SEIU violence. But now I am really just mesmerized. Above, CNA spokesman Shum Preston turned one Frank Hornick into TWO BUSLOADS of Frank Hornick! It's like that scene in "Being John Malkovich"...

More lies in the same sentence

Shum isn't done yet... Presently, Shum goes on to say he/they/it (the Frank-Hornick-entity) "attacked" the gathering.

Yet another incredibly obvious lie from the CNA. Both CNA and Labor Notes have put out their choice of video footage of the event, as well as photos, and not a single image backs him up.

Shum's still going strong throughout the post...

"There has been no violence in California"

Not true - a CNA organizer was arrested for attacked people from SEIU. See:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/20 08/04/battle-of-the-n.html

"RNs do not appreciate multiple visits to their workplace, home, as they're driving, and with family by out-of-state SEIU staffers, mostly male"

We already saw the video of "5 male staffers" who were actually two middle-aged women who are trying to organize a union at their hospital.

https://email.seiu.org/exchweb/bin/redir .asp?URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGw2QJTgw 4I

Actually, upon a second viewing, is that a busload of Frank Hornick, hiding behind a bush?

by Organize1199 2008-04-23 01:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Your Comments are without merit

You consistently tout the video of two 'middle aged women' harassing a CNA board member at home as evidence that the twenty-plus other board members who were harassed and stalked were not intimidated by 'burly men.'

Who exactly is holding the camera in this video?

The board member in question reported the women were accompanied by several large men, who shouted at her through the window, taunted her, and threatened that "we know where you live." Other board members have experienced even more frightening home visits. One's thirteen-year-old daughter was screamed at by an SEIU organizer. Another was tailed in her car while she and her family were on their way to a funeral. Several have reported strange men trying to get into the house to offer 'free carpet cleaning' services, without soliciting any of their neighbors. Numerous neighbors have called the police because SEIU show up in such a disruptive manner.

Even if the majority of CNA's board of directors were only being contacted by two innocent middle-aged, female respiratory therapists instead of physically intimidating large men, I fail to understand how that justifies videotaping their private residences, peeking through their windows, calling them names, and harassing co-workers at hospitals to surrender confidential information like addresses and phone numbers.

by NursePower 2008-04-24 09:04AM | 0 recs
Re: Your Comments are without merit

My understanding is, the 15 ton camera was held in place by seventeen Frank Hornicks and an alien that Dennis Kucinich befriended in Santa Fe.

In all seriousness, house visits are a normal part of speech. We do them for political campaigns and union organizing. So does the CNA, political candidates, the lymphoma society, the Census Bureau and Time Warner cable.

Most people do not like being house-called. It is annoying. But it's the only way we know how to reach members of the CNA who we know are being lied to by their leadership, and who we hope will demand accountability from their union when they learn the truth.

We did not send any carpet cleaners. We did not send PIs to tail anyone. We do not scream at 13 year olds who are not our own 13 year olds.

And frankly, after all the tall tales you've been telling, you just don't have a whole lot of credibility left.

by Organize1199 2008-04-24 01:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Your Comments are without merit

'House visits are a normal part of speech.'

Wow that is rhetoric of the highest order.

I've been a Mormon missionary and even we didn't use that kind of nonsense about why we went door to door.

Organizing is about winning hearts and minds. Invading people's home time, uninvited is unproductive.

Wanting to open up a dialogue about potential wrongs in this way is completely stupid.

by Ludlow 2008-04-24 01:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Your Comments are without merit

It's a perfectly normal activity for organization such as political candidates, union and community organizers, and salespeople to go door to door.

Anyway, if you think it's so unproductive why do you do it? (Or has Demoro just declared an end to house calls by the CNA?)

by Organize1199 2008-04-24 05:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Going uninvited to an RN's home has never been

a CNA organizing strategy to my knowledge.

I can say as a Mormon missionary that 6 months of going door to door found 1 family interested in becoming Mormons. That's pretty inefficient.

by Ludlow 2008-04-24 07:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Your Comments are without merit

So 1199, exactly how staffers and members were there in Detroit. Your website initially said 800. Eye witnesses say more like 200-300. Looks like you get your numbers off by a factor of 3-4.

How many individuals went to the private homes of CNA members? Guess we'd best multiply by 3 or 4.

How many CNA members were in Ohio? Better divide by the X factor of 3-4.

Oh and while we're on the subject of Ohio: How many RNs actually would have voted for SEIU representation? Probably about the same number that would have before CNA started talking to the nurses--just a handful of the 3000 RNs. That would have been a majority had the sham election gone on as planned; counting on that most employees would not vote because they didn't have a clue what was going on.

by Ludlow 2008-04-24 11:17AM | 0 recs
Re: Your Comments are without merit

Wrong. SEIU never claimed to have 800 people at the event. That was CNA/ Labor Notes who made that claim. Look it up.

by Nate1212 2008-04-24 11:48AM | 0 recs
Re: That was an SEIU press release

by Ludlow 2008-04-24 01:34PM | 0 recs
Oh and what was the exact number?

by Ludlow 2008-04-24 02:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Oh and what was the exact number?

This SEIU press release says 800.  

http://www.foxbusiness.com/article/seiu- members-stand-future-labor-movement-inte rests-workers_559320_1.html

Quoting Mary Kay Henry, SEIU's spokeswoman, "The more than 800 SEIU members who traveled to Dearborn from all parts of the country tonight would much rather be at home..."

The math stands.

by Ludlow 2008-04-24 07:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Oh and what was the exact number?

There were 6 or 7 buses plus a bunch of people who carpooled. I'd say around 1,000 people came out to show support for CHP workers that Saturday afternoon, but I don't think everyone came to the rally in the evening.

by Organize1199 2008-04-25 09:54AM | 0 recs
Re: Your Comments are without merit

What a publicity stunt, 1199. An SEIU organizer files a baseless "citizen's arrest" complaint against a petite female CNA organizer...does the bullying and harrassment of women ever cease with you? Apparently not. That's the Shame of SEIU!

by RN4MERCY 2008-04-24 09:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Your Comments are without merit

Nope. The police made the arrest. Once again the CNA accuses other people of violence against women, in utter disregard of the facts.

Battle of the nurses unions turns physical

A nasty fight erupted at L.A. County hospitals today when organizers for the California Nurses Assn. launched a campaign to persuade 6,000 county-employed nurses to ditch the Service Employees International Union, the powerful organization that represents them, and join the CNA instead, Garrett Therolf reports.

Police arrested a CNA organizer accused of slapping an SEIU organizer and of stomping on the foot of another. A county official who asked for anonymity claimed CNA organizers dressed up as nurses so they could get into areas of the hospital normally off limits.

"The nurses are leaving SEIU and coming to CNA. That is a fact," said Jill Furillo, CNA's Southern California director. "Los Angeles County hospitals are the most horrendous and horrible facilities. The patients and nurses have been suffering in those places."

That's news to Elizabeth Brennan, a spokeswoman for SEIU Local 721.

"There is no question that the nurses will continue to be represented by SEIU," Brennan said. "Nurses won a record raise last year because they are united as an entire healthcare team with other Los Angeles County employees and other healthcare workers -- and that helps improve the quality of healthcare in the county."

Furillo said, "A real war is going to happen."

Last month, the CNA organized the only private hospital in Texas, the Houston Chronicle reports. Its attempt to move into other Texas hospitals, where nurses already have union representation, mirrors the fight now brewing in LA County. Similar scenarios are playing out in Nevada and Ohio.

--Garrett Therolf & Veronique de Turenne

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/20 08/04/battle-of-the-n.html

by Organize1199 2008-04-25 10:01AM | 0 recs
Re: The California Nurses Association versus the T

Nice to see 1199 chime in. Now let's examine how hypocritical their leadership is in the form of Dennis Rivera.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/02/ 29/2008-02-29_new_york_labor_leader_denn is_rivera_in_s.html

"Eight days ago, the Puerto Rico Federation of Teachers, which represents 40,000 teachers, paralyzed island public schools with a strike.

The teachers, who earn top wages of $26,000 a year, had worked for 30 months without a contract. Union leaders were furious that Gov. Anibal Acevedo Vila imposed new working conditions last year, decertified the union in January and suspended its dues checkoff.

The governor's draconian actions came after the union's membership voted in November to authorize a strike. Since 1998, Puerto Rico's government workers have not been allowed to strike.

While the clash between the teachers' militant leaders and the government was grabbing the headlines, Rivera was maneuvering to snatch control of the teachers for his Service Employees International Union.

Top labor leaders here and in Puerto Rico say Acevedo Vila gave Rivera, a close friend and a vice president of the 1.6-million member SEIU, a green light last year to oust the teachers federation and replace it with a newly formed labor group, the Union of Puerto Rican Teachers."

It's funny to see folks like Norma Amsterdam and other 1199 folks condemning another union for the same thing that 1199 does.

While we're at it, why did SEIU endorse a union-busting attorney Republican who was running for a seat in the recent NY State Senate special election upstate? Why did SEIU endorse and provide a lot of volunteer and financial support for a crooked mayor in Mount Vernon who brought nothing but bankruptcy and federal investigations to my hometown? I'm glad to report that we defeated SEIU's crooked candidate in the primary and went on to kick his ass again in the general when he went and ran under the independence party banner.

by Prison4BushCo 2008-04-23 02:30PM | 0 recs
Re: The California Nurses Association versus the T

Prison4BushCo, so glad to hear that democracy held sway in your town even against the big money of SEIU. You guys must be great organizers!

by Ludlow 2008-04-24 10:20AM | 0 recs
Re: The California Nurses Association versus the T

Prison,

I don't know anything about Puerto Rico and all I've seen is hearsay, similar to what you posted. I have never met Dennis Rivera but I do know he did jail time for protesting the bombing of Vieques. He's obviously a serious guy who cares an awful lot about Puerto Rico. If you have anything concrete, post it; meanwhile, I trust Rivera a lot more than I trust hearsay.

by Organize1199 2008-04-24 05:38PM | 0 recs
Re: SEIU spin

I guess you all believe the video of McCain in the Bagdad market saying how safe it is.

Or were you expecting the wide shot then and the rest of the story?

2 middle-aged women knocking primly on a door in a southern California neighborhood, then leaving when nobody answers.

When was the last time someone from your profession came to your house with a video camera, stood on your lawn, peered into your window, then started yelling at you when they saw you through the window.

If people in your profession want to talk to you, they email or write or phone to make an appointment.

That never happened here in California. But we do have statements from CNA nurse leaders who were harassed by SEIU individuals who were not professional at all in their demeanor.

And now you want me to believe that it was all on the up and up? Sorry. That dog don't hunt.

Then there's the SEIU fairy-tale about what happened in Detroit. Just a peaceable protest against a union buster.

ONE OF YOUR MEMBERS DIED BECAUSE OF THE STRESSFULNESS OF THE ACTIVITY.

Have you no sense of decency? And have you no sense at all? You put vulnerable children and frail members into a situation that you intended to be rough (else why the masked faces of you lead staff?)

SEIU could do so much good if you'd only act like a UNION instead of thugs and sellout agents of corporate America

by Ludlow 2008-04-24 09:05AM | 0 recs
Now that's just too far

Yes, an SEIU member died after the event. That's a real tragedy and I'd hope you'd refrain from using it to make a point on this blog. His death had nothing to do with this argument and had nothing to do with what happened at the protest.

At least try to show some decency.

Also, what is this about: "why the masked faces of you lead staff"

Nobody at the protest was wearing masks. Where does this stuff come from and why do you people keep making up lies about it?

by Nate1212 2008-04-24 11:46AM | 0 recs
Re: Watch your own video.

I saw protesters wearing their SEIU bandanas over their nose and mouth.

I was horrified and saddened about the guy dying of a heart attack and I sent my condolences to his family via your web site before you had released his name. I mention it because it is horrifying and because it speaks to the stressfulness of your so called 'peaceful rally/protest.

Again I ask where is SEIUs decency and common sense? You put children and the frail at risk. Shame on you.

by Ludlow 2008-04-24 01:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Watch your own video.

CNA organizer Ludlow. You need to not talk about this.

Regarding bandannas, I think a couple of our members thought they looked cool. There was no secret about who we were, and there's a big old video tape showing .... nothing violent at all. So what are you, the "suede-denim secret police"?

As for putting "children and the frail at risk," that is a load of crap. A peaceful protest by union people at a union event - I'm amazed there was any scuffle at all. We came in peace to protest the behavior of the California Nurses Association in Ohio.

Your organization, the California Nurses Association, attacked 8,000 working families in Ohio. You really hurt children. You really did.

You put a quote on your tag line, "Only power used to empower is everlasting".

Now live by it.

by Organize1199 2008-04-24 02:24PM | 0 recs
Organizer 1199

I'm a nurse

by Ludlow 2008-04-24 04:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Organizer 1199

Well of course your a nurse, Ludlow. But you don't like our style, which is has more to do with your "other" job... C'mon don't they teach California Trotskyites about the Dead Kennedy's anymore? (Too busy purging the ol' membership?)

Now it's 1984
Knock-knock at your front door
It's the suede-denim secret police
They've come for your uncool niece

You'll also love the Disposable Heroes' version

"Soon he will be president ... Maybe you remember the last one this state sent; California, Uberalles; Uberalles California...."

Check it out.

by Organize1199 2008-04-24 05:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Organizer 1199

Sorry, you've lost me.

I work full time in ICU. On my days off I garden, or work registry or hike, or travel, or rest up. Sorry to disappoint you. I don't have an 'other' job. I've seen the work schedule you guys have. It's not for me.

When necessary I protest and speak out. Hey, it's that free speech again.

by Ludlow 2008-04-24 07:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Speaking of Free speech

What's up with telling me: 'You need to not talk about this?'

by Ludlow 2008-04-24 04:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Speaking of Free speech

You were out of line. Again. Drop it.

by Organize1199 2008-04-24 06:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Speaking of Free speech

And you were out of line in Detroit.

by Ludlow 2008-04-24 07:05PM | 0 recs
considering sources

I think that the average reader of this site can be trusted to actually go to the many listed reports by Bill Ornasch, Labor Notes, Moberg, Paff and others.
All of these are folks with:

  1. Long histories in the labor movement and in the fight for democratic unions.
  2. Good reputations earned over a long time.
  3. No connection to CNA/NNOC

Let the reader judge for themselves who is credible.
Don't believe the partisans on either side?  Those are unbiased sources.  While we're at it, for another look that steps back and looks at the bigger picture, try this one from two SEIU member activists, (not connected with CNA/NNOC either):

http://www.socialistworker.org/2008-1/67 0/670_07_SEIU.shtml

It steps back a bit from the heat of the two events and looks at root causes.

by Chico David RN 2008-04-24 09:36AM | 0 recs
Re: considering sources

Considering sources indeed!

Are you serious? The Socialist Workers are disciples of Leon Trotski, a man who believed in killing people at random to solidify the central Soviet power structure.

We stand in the Marxist tradition, founded by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, and continued by V.I. Lenin, Rosa Luxemburg and Leon Trotsky. (the same website)

Just to get a sense of what they are about, here's a link to the same publication's recommendations for a fun time in Mexico:

http://www.socialistworker.org/2002-2/41 7/417_09_TrotskysHome.shtml

Well, good lord. A Trotski zine is the California Nurses Association's idea of an unbiased source... It would be funny if it weren't true.

by Organize1199 2008-04-24 01:59PM | 0 recs
What? is it far better to be like your Andy?

Lips of the cheeks of the bosses?

by Ludlow 2008-04-24 02:10PM | 0 recs
Re: What? is it far better to be like your Andy?

Ludlow? You too? Are all of you Troski-ites ?

by Organize1199 2008-04-24 02:27PM | 0 recs
What? is it far better to be like your Andy?

Lips on the cheeks of the bosses?

by Ludlow 2008-04-24 03:14PM | 0 recs
Re: considering sources

It's not where it's published that matters.  It's who wrote it.  And I'll trust the intellect of the average reader to read it and decide for themselves.  

by Chico David RN 2008-04-24 04:28PM | 0 recs
Re: considering sources

It's the Trotskyites! The Trotskyites, man. All they do is splinter and purge, purge and splinter, and yammer away in San Francisco coffee shops. I bet you cash money they're rich white goofballs. No one else has time to be a stinking Troskyite in America, in 2008.

C'mon, Chico D. These ISO wingnuts had one guy I saw at the LN conference. He said he believes the only real way to organize was through the NLRB, and all other ways of beating the boss were morally wrong. I don't know what leads a person to that objectively insane conclusion; the truth is it's a lot crazier than Leon Trotsky.

I mean, Christ. If we listen to these jerks, we might as well shoot ourselves in the head tonight because that's what their plan amounts to.

by Organize1199 2008-04-24 06:26PM | 0 recs
20 First-person accounts

I will remind our friend from 1199 that he is attempting to deny 20 first person accounts, linked above.

It makes clear why he has to obfuscate, attack, redbait, justify, sling personal slander, and so forth.

If I were SEIU, I would be ashamed of what happened in Michigan,also.

by California Nurses Shum 2008-04-25 09:13AM | 0 recs
A judge, a camera, and a CNA blogger go into a bar

A one-act play.

The plot, in brief:

The judge, from the California Superior Court, carefully reviews legal evidence of CNA's case for a Temporary Restraining Order. She is unable to find sufficient factual evidence to support the CNA's use of this serious legal injunction, so she vacates the order: http://shameoncna.com/2008/04/court-thro ws-out-restraining-order.html.

The blogger says "HEY! I SAID it's true SO IT'S TRUE! Who are you going to believe, judge? Me or that crazy masked purple mob of burly men that busted into our conference with the intent to harm, disrespect, and do violence to everyone present?!"

The camera jumps in and shows the judge, the blogger, and the World Wide Web the unedited video footage it happens to have from the conference in question: http://shameoncna.com/2008/04/seiu-rn-di an-palmer-calls-on-afl-cio.html.

How does the play end? Who is to be trusted?? What counts as 'evidence'?!

OK, admittedly I'm getting a little punchy here. It's been a long day. The point I'm driving at is this: the evidence is out there, in video form. It has been reviewed by the CA Superior Court. With all the tempers raging and accusations flying in all directions, we need to be able to look to authorities other than the word-of-mouth of people--on all sides--who come to the discussion with a predetermined side and agenda. I submit that federal courts and unedited video are two such sources.

~Nadia, SEIU staffer

by mringuette 2008-04-24 12:49PM | 0 recs
Nancy Lewis Fires Back-Proud CNA member

First, I don't appreciate someone implying that I'm "lying" about being both an SEIU, now 1021 public sector union, under collective bargaining with the city of SF and a member of the Joint Nursing Practice of the California Nursing Association/NNOC for the last several years.

I have been an SEIU member since 5/5/97 when we had a small, progressive local called SEIU 790, that including all DPH (Dept. of Public Health Workers) and surrounding DPH clinics.  I was the Co-Chair of the NP Practice group (2003-2005) for SFGH and our clinics and fought hard to help save nursing jobs at our clinics, NP positions at Tom Wadell and cuts to our MIRF (Mental Health Clinic) when our budget was bad.  Our PHN's led that fight and we won keeping our nurses in the clinics, our PHN's in the field and our MIRV open.

But that has changed with the smashing together of 10 locals in to one giant sector union known as 1021.  I went to the hastily called re-organization meeting when we were told either a huge Public sector union or a RN division that would have been out-numbered 20 to one and our practice diluted.  One choice to remain a smaller, more localized 790 wasn't an option.  The union has changed and it is feeling more top down and insular since the re-organization.  

Our meetings with our representative are down to 15 minutes every 6 months and we have no idea what is going on in the city an county.  We lost 15 PHN Chronic care nurses who have been reassigned and part of Clarendon Hall has been slated to close as of May 1st leaving 100's of positions to be reassigned.  Our nursing home patients are being put in other counties.  In addition, our workman's comp clinic has been closed and out-sourced.  We are losing 8 hours of OR time at SFGH.  No one is talking about the cuts and more supposedly to come.

So, before you assume things about people, especially, quoting the great Lucretia Mott,  suggest you delve a little deeper than your superficial comments about people whom you do not know.  I would also advise you that even my union local, 1021, is part of a move to reform SEIU known as SMART.  I think you need to stop reading just the information from one source and start thinking.  I wish my brothers and sisters in SMART and Sal Rosselli all the luck in the up-coming membership meeting in June.  

I have also been a member, since my student nurse days, of CNA.  I will continue to be member because they are a voice for nurses and have a vision for health care that speaks to my condition as a registered nurse and a nurse practitioner in public health.
Sincerely,

Nancy Lewis. RN FNP

s                            

by lizjacobs 2008-04-24 01:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Nancy Lewis Fires Back-Proud CNA member

Nancy,

You wrote a post titled "SHAME ON SEIU from AN SEIU Member" about a dispute between SEIU and CNA. In it, you never to mention that you are a CNA member, much less Nancy Lewis, the Region 12 Commissioner for the California Nurses Association.

That is a profoundly dishonest appeal to authority. As I wrote above, it is utterly dishonest whether or not you are an SEIU member.

Sometimes it's what you don't say that counts.

If you really don't think it's misleading, why didn't you title it "SHAME ON SEIU from A CNA Commissioner"? Why didn't you disclaim, in the post, that you were also on the other side of the dispute?

Your appeal to the authority of being an SEIU member continues throughout - an appeal that is all but meaningless when it turns out that you are on the other side as well.

As an SEIU member, I am ashamed of SEIU and its bully-boy tactics over the past few days, including stalking CNA/NNOC Board Members in Southern California at their place of work and at Home.

Again, without also acknowledging your role in the CNA, it's just profoundly dishonest. Moreover, as has been proven with video footage and at the California Superior Court, the "stalking" allegation is also false, and it's a lie which CNA used in court to silence CHP workers who were trying to tell their story to CNA members.

CNA Commissioner Lewis, your entire post was an appeal to the authority of 'Being an SEIU Member'. The whole impression you sought to create for the reader tumbles away when it was also discovered that you are a CNA Commissioner.

What Lucretia Mott said, was Don't look to authority for truth. You asked us to do exactly that, and if we did it, we were fooled.

-- But look to truth for authority.

Give it a shot, Mott.

by Organize1199 2008-04-24 03:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Nancy Lewis Fires Back-Proud CNA member

It was not my purpose to mislead anyone. My bio indicates I am indeed a CNA member.  When I chose to write my blog before meeting, I did so as an out-raged SEIU member who has seen more slick mailers on this one issue than anything in the last 11 years.  In additiion, I received a rater trange phone call from SEIU-I, polling my opionion on this issue and my response was why are we wasting precious dues money on mailers on not on more important issues cuts to our public health budget.

We have lost our team of PHN's in chronic care, our workmans comp clinic (outsourced to St. Francis and parts of our skilled nursing facility. Why are we not focusing on the reform platform of returning local control back to our cities by SEIU??    

I am beginning to think that  by focusing solely on CNA/NNOC, SEIU is chossing to distract us from some serious internal problems that many SEIU activists in UHW, 1021, 521 and others want addressed.  It will come to ahead in P. Rico in June. The reformers of SMART are pushing a platform of reform to restore local control to our members.  I hope they succeed in setting the record staight and bringing the real power back to the members in our local community.

by lizjacobs 2008-04-24 04:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Nancy Lewis Fires Back-Proud CNA member

Nancy Lewis, you've done it again. While posing as an "outraged SEIU member" concerned with the undue focus on CNA/NNOC you weren't exactly... yourself. Nope.

You accidentally posted while logged in as CNA spokeswoman Liz Jacobs.

This is just surreal.

by Organize1199 2008-04-24 08:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Proud CNA/NNOC Members...

Nancy is for real; she is a Master's prepared RN, FNP, and an outraged SEIU bargaining unit member. She's eloquently outlined the reasons for her outrage at SEIU's recent harrassment and intimidation of women, and the documented violent outburst by SEIU at the Labor Notes Conference in Dearborn, MI.

Nancy is also an active member of CNA/NNOC, which is a professional and labor organization. She has served as the elected representative to the Joint Nursing Practice Commission from Region 12.

Liz Jacobs is for real; she is an RN, and a member of CNA/NNOC. She is also a journalist, who works for the Communications Department of our union.

Mirriam-Webster defines "surreal" as: "marked by the intense irrational reality of a dream." Also: "unbelievable, fantastic"

So, 1199, what are you suggesting? That it's irrational or fantastic or only in your dreams that a member could borrow a computer to post at her association's office? C'mon, 1199...at CNA/NNOC we're progressives and we believe we're all in this together.  It's not a dream, it's our reality. "A voice for nurses, a vision for healthcare."

http://www.calnurses.org/nnoc/about-nnoc .html

by RN4MERCY 2008-04-24 10:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Proud CNA/NNOC Members...

I'm suggesting that, at best, CNA Spokeswoman Liz Jacobs and CNA Commissioner Nancy Lewis are sitting in a room together posting blog entries about how Nancy is an outraged SEIU member.

This is just CNA propaganda. It was posted by a CNA Spokeswoman's login.

The CNA's approach to the truth is surreal. It's dreamlike. Consider the two busloads of Frank Hornick invented by Shum Preston. The neutral Trotskyites Chico David points to. CNA's argument about how SEIU is corrupt because we got sued by the union of Benny the Bug! And this thing with Nancy Lewis where she first pretends to be an anonymous SEIU Member, and now accidentally posts about her "SEIU Identity" using a CNA spokeswoman's login.

Unbelievable.

by Organize1199 2008-04-25 06:29AM | 0 recs
Re: Proud CNA/NNOC Members...

What is unbelievable and appalling is SEIU's continued denial of their inappropriate aggression at the Labor Notes Conference.

It is a black eye for all of Labor. It is one of the reasons my fellow Southern Californians, who are conservative and wary of unions to begin with, even more so now, want nothing to do with unions. Especially SEIU.

Way to go.

by Ludlow 2008-04-25 01:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Proud CNA/NNOC Members...

Union-busting is the what the boss does. The California Nurses Association under Rose Ann Demoro is a union-busting organization, keeping thousands of workers from joining the union.

I am proud of our peaceful protest of union-buster Rose Ann Demoro in Dearborn Ohio. If you whiners can't take the heat, quit busting our union.

by Organize1199 2008-04-27 07:36AM | 0 recs
1199's Hypocrisy-A Long History of Raiding

1199's hypocrisy would be laughable if not tragic. The ranting about Ohio does not cover up what everyone knows to be the truth. SEIU has raided more unions than any other union in history. 1199 wouldn't exist in Seattle if not for the raids it conducted on the Washington State Nurses Association.

Same for 1199 Western Pennsylvania, where it raided the Pennsylvania Nurses Association. 1199 New York is currently raiding the New York State Nurses Association in New York as it has in the past. 1199 has inserted itself in numerous union elections to prevent thousands of non union RNs from having the chance to win their union elections--and many of those hospitals remain non union today. 1199 has prided itself on it's underhanded tactics by sending in organizers pretending to be "rank and file nurses" to trash Nurses' Association union elections in state after state where 1199 was not on the ballot--including Ohio.

SEIU and 1199 may try to deny it--but there are too many former staffers who could testify otherwise--if subpoenaed. They cannot deny it because the whole labor movement knows the truth. The truth they will never tell the nurses in Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York, Washington State, Connecticut, Illinois, Missouri, Massachusetts and many more---of yes don't forget Florida!

by lizjacobs 2008-04-24 01:41PM | 0 recs
Re: 1199's Hypocrisy-A Long History of Raiding

CNA spokeswoman Liz Jacobs,

Yes. You've got Ralph Nader talking about SEIU raiding a mobbed-up union called the Allied International Union. It was was started by a character named Bennie the Bug who died in Sing Sing.  At one point the AIU was "bought" for $90,000 and at different times it has been associated with the Genovese and Colombo families. You gotta problem wid' dat?

Now remind us when the last time was, another union ran a VOTE NO campaign against 8,000 workers.

It's only happened once.

You did it.

Last month.

by Organize1199 2008-04-24 03:50PM | 0 recs
Re: SEIU FRAUD....

http://www.lvrj.com/business/17842304.ht ml
"The U.S. Department of Labor is looking into allegations that the Service Employees International Union's Local 1107 in Las Vegas used employer money to produce campaign materials for a specific set of candidates in its September election of new officials."

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/apr 17/labor-law-broken-during-seiu-electio n-report-says
"For the past four months, Labor Department officials have been probing last year's election of union officers at SEIU Nevada, which represents 17,500 health care and public sector workers in the state."

http://www.alliedinternationalunion.com/ contact_press_yahoo.htm
"Allied International Union has filed a civil complaint under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act, which charges Service Employees International Union Local 32BJ and others with racketeering, extortion, fraud and other illegal activities. Unlike a number of recent employer-initiated RICO cases against SEIU, this lawsuit is brought by a labor union to end unlawful SEIU conduct."

by RN4MERCY 2008-04-24 10:06PM | 0 recs
Re: SEIU FRAUD....

I know you'll also want to point out that UHW disenfranchised 95% of its membership to make sure theit delegates at the SEIU convention are the very best people to talk about union democracy...

But frankly, as a CNA shill, why don't you leave these internal SEIU battles to SEIU. CNA has it's own unelected, unaccountable, non-RN leadership problem to address.

That said, I would LOVE to talk more about AIU filing a RICO charge against SEIU! It about the funniest thing I ever heard. RICO was invented for organizations like the Allied International Union.

AIU was one of many unions established in the late 1960s by Bennie (the Bug) Ross, a notorious labor racketeer.  After Ross went to jail in 1972 for racketeering related crimes, Patrick Sottile supposedly took over the presidency of the Union. However, a Labor Department agent, in a letter to the court, claimed that effective control of the Union was under the control of Joe Agone, a member of the Genovese crime family, not Sottile.

In this one blog entry, an entry about the CNA being remarkably dishonest, CNA spokespeople have presented us with:

  • The Troskyites
  • CNA Spokeswoman Liz Jacobs posting as Nancy Lewis posting as an SEIU member
  • The union of Bennie the Bug
  • CNA Spokesman Shum Preston, who can replicate Frank Hornick using nothing but his mind

Is it just me, or does anyone else think this is not really helping their case?

by Organize1199 2008-04-25 06:05AM | 0 recs
Re: SEIU FRAUD....

I invite the reader to examine the arguments in the comment immediately above.  You will note that they consist of mainly innuendo, personal attack and guilt by association.

I would then encourage the rare reader who has waded through the swamp to get this far to actually perform a little personal journalism.  The great thing about the internet is the availability of primary sources.  Rather than taking anyone's word about the credibility of the various witnesses to what happened at Labor Notes,
follow the trail yourself and draw your own conclusions.  The compendium of links to those statments is here:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/22/ 12736/8368?new=true

You can then follow the various links.  Many of the links will lead you to people's personal blogs or sites on which they appear regularly.  You can read what they write about this, what they have written in the past, who and what they have supported and opposed.  You can do a little googling and see what others have said about them. In a half hour of so, you can be equipped to draw your own conclusions on their credibility.  Rather than allowing your opinion to be shaped by others, take the time to shape your own.
If you care about the future of the labor movement - and we all should - it's worth your time.

by Chico David RN 2008-04-25 09:01AM | 0 recs
Re: SEIU FRAUD, AGAIN!

"Nurses Blast SEIU for Deceit in Hiding Violence at Michigan Conference"
Orwellian Spin: SEIU Peddling Video That Does Not Show Attack

Nurses Will Never Forget SEIU's Violence

Desperate to hide the truth about a brutal attack on a labor conference in Michigan April 12, Andy Stern's Service Employees International Union is now peddling a video that does not show the violence...as proof that the attack never happened.  Stern's denials contradict dozens of first-person accounts of journalists, non-partisan trade unionists, and the organizers of the conference."

http://www.calnurses.org/media-center/pr ess-releases/2008/april/nurses-blast-sei u-for-deceit-in-hiding-violence-at-michi gan-conference.html

by RN4MERCY 2008-04-25 10:34AM | 0 recs
Re: SEIU FRAUD, AGAIN!

Once again you want us to believe you - proven union-busters and liars - over an unedited videotape. Good luck chuck.

I challenge you to post every single picture in existence and show me one instance of an SEIU caregiver, staffer or family member hitting another human being at the Dearborn event.

Well, you can't can you. Because it did not happen.

Your story does not even make sense. To recap your version of events: Two bus loads full of burly male staffers brutally attacked a room of conference-goers.

The Dearborn cops said there was no such attack.

The videotape proves there was no such attack.

The only photos your people have presented to back up your hallucinatory version of the story turned out to be Frank Hornick helping Rachael Holland who you people really did attack.

And somehow, SINGLE non-SEIU conference-goer got hurt in a brutal attack by a horde of dozens of burly male staffers said she wasn't attacked.

It's horseshit.

by Organize1199 2008-04-25 12:02PM | 0 recs
Re: The California Nurses Association versus the T

Chico David,

The problem is a crisis of honesty. So much of what comes from the CNA is so obviously dishonest.

CNA lied to get a TRO and (literally) silence CHP workers. CNA lied about Dearborn. CNA lied about Ohio over and over.

CNA lies to its members, lies to SEIU members, lies to workers at CHP hospitals who have not had a chance to vote for the union because the CNA came to bust the union with its lies.

CNA lies to blog readers, lies to the California Superior Court, and lies to Labor Notes.

That's what this post is about. So don't send me to read some more of your lies, I've had it up to here.

by Organize1199 2008-04-25 09:37AM | 0 recs
Wow, you got a lot of slander going on here based

on innuendo.

by Ludlow 2008-04-25 01:15PM | 0 recs
repeat my suggestion
You may throw around all the insults and epithets you wish, but I would continue to repeat my encouragement to users to do their own research - go to individual links, read what they have to say, evaluate sources, draw your own conclusions.  I have no fear of the conclusions that any reasonable person would draw.
And I would add that the bullying, hectoring tone that organize1199 displays here is a big part of the reason why his union is in such low repute among Registered Nurses across America.  In some things, style does equal substance.
by Chico David RN 2008-04-25 07:35PM | 0 recs
Re: The California Nurses Association versus the T

CNA leader Rose Ann Demoro is using union resources to stop 8,000 Ohio workers from joining the union, just because it's not her union. That's what started this argument and it isn't going to end until the CNA agrees to behave itself - and hopital workers are once again able to organize without being attacked by Demoro's rogue union.

Finding a resolution starts with finding the truth. People who have a stake in this argument need to know the truth. Credibility matters - we need to know who is honest.

This diary is about exposing the CNA as a non-credible organization - an organization that lies about real events that are happening to real people.

It doesn't take Matlock to make the case here, but I think it's important, because the dishonesty is getting in the way of dealing with the real problems.

If we want to believe the CNA we'd have to dismiss the veracity of the California Superior court, two unedited videotapes, the majority of eye witnesses (including me, by the way), the Dearborn police, the LA County police, and the hospital workers from Catholic Healthcare Partners whose are trying to organize a union.

So let's just take a moment to recognize the CNA's pround dishonesty. Right here in this diary, they bear false witness against me and my union and the people I care about.

We're not talking about little lies. We're talking about inventing attacks by busloads of hairy men - an attack that didn't happen by men who do not exist. We're talking about false accusations of "harrasment and stalking" by "5 male staffers" - accusations used to silence CHP workers in court, until the SEIU proved the order was obtained dishonestly, and the same judge vacated it.

In their defense - their own credibility shot - they cite people like the Troskyites and the union of Bennie the Bug.

This diary post is about the CNA Versus the Truth.

Who will win, only time will tell. But one thing is for certain. The California Nurses Association and the Truth are in a serious fight... A fight that's hurting people who really do exist in Ohio and around the country.

by Organize1199 2008-04-27 09:06AM | 0 recs

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