Guam: Open Thread (UPDATE)

An estimated 3,000 Guamanians have casted their votes for their choice for the Democratic nominee.  Up for grabs is 8 delegates (which get a half vote) added with 5 super delegates means this tiny island will be sending 9 delegates.  Since it is an open caucus and will have a significant impact, many of the tropical islander are registering as Democrats.

Have the candidates overlooked Guam? Hardly.

Barack has a campaign office and Hillary did a live telecast:

There are reports of long lines and ballots are being tabulated as we speak:

Associated Press

This time, Obama and Clinton made their case for the territory's four regular delegates with local advertising and long-distance interviews.

Lines formed early at some caucus sites.

Cynthia Estrada of Dedeo said she was making up her mind while waiting to vote, but she was leaning toward Clinton.

"She's had the experience," she said. "She's got her husband to help her."

Yona resident Tommy Shimizu said he was voting for Obama delegates.

"It's the fact that he grew up in Hawaii, and I think he can make change," he said. "I think it's time for that."

Clinton and Obama pitched improved health care and economic opportunity as they courted Guam voters from across the international date line.

Both candidates bought local advertising and conducted media interviews. In their protracted race for the nomination, no contest is being ignored.

Both Clinton and Obama say they've got the better health plan for Guamanians.

Obama said in an interview with Pacific Daily News that he would support reexamination of a $5.4 million Medicaid spending limit imposed on the territory. Clinton's husband, former President Bill Clinton, told KUAM radio earlier that his wife would work to remove the cap.

At the moment with 37% of Precients counted the tally is at:

Obama 55% 497 Votes
Clinton 45% 401 Votes

Catch the local news coverage and results at Pacific News Center

Update [2008-5-3 14:10:15 by optimusprime]: 12/19 precints counted. The vote as of 2:45 am in Guam:

899 Obama 769 Clinton

Also of signifigance is the second race on the ballot for Guam Democratic Party Chair/Vice Chair. A win for ticket Lujan/Paulino means one super delegate for Obama and one undecided. Victory by ticket Cameron/Bordallo means 2 super delegates for Clinton. The count is at:

Lujan/Paulino 769 Cameron/Bordallo 546

Update [2008-5-3 14:22:27 by optimusprime]: 15/19 Preceints

Obama 1393 Clinton 1,222

Lujan/Pualino 1210 Cameron/Bordallo 909

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Comments

32 Comments

by bobbank 2008-05-03 07:57AM | 0 recs
Better data than what I had!

Thanks, I looked for results this morning and only found one....which had results posted as if final.  Thank for this post and the update.  We'll see what happens!

by 4justice 2008-05-03 08:00AM | 0 recs
Re: Guam: Open Thread

Is it possible for them to split delegates something like 5-3, so we can start attaching a .5 to the end of all the delegate counts?

by Lost Thought 2008-05-03 08:00AM | 0 recs
Re: Guam: Open Thread

Maybe.  8 delegates. Half a vote each...We could have a 2.5-1.5 outcome.  Anyone have a cacluator to figure this out?

by optimusprime 2008-05-03 08:07AM | 0 recs
Tip Jar

When was the last time Guam received such focus? WWII? It was actually invaded by Japan (browsing the net) kudos to all the Guamanians and Chamorros (local inhabitants) for exercising their democratic rights!  

by optimusprime 2008-05-03 08:01AM | 0 recs
Re: Guam: Open Thread

What I don't get is: why does Guam have only 4 delegates when Puerto Rico has 55. Neither are US states and neither cast votes for the general election.

Think about it: Puerto Rico sends more delegates to the DNC than Oregon or Kentucky.

by elrod 2008-05-03 08:10AM | 0 recs
yeah I find this odd

by kindthoughts 2008-05-03 08:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Guam: Open Thread

What is the reasoning behind including U.S. territories in the nominating process when they don't have any electoral votes in the general election?

I don't get it.

by Lefty Coaster 2008-05-03 08:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Guam: Open Thread

We are democrats, and as such those rules were put into place, probably, under the philosophy that we should try and expand democracy. It is the same logic as giving Democrats abroad a vote. Does it make sense in picking a nominee? Of course not, but then these contests were supposed to be symbolic, not meaningful.

by Lost Thought 2008-05-03 08:31AM | 0 recs
Re: Guam: Open Thread

Guam has 55.000 registered voters, PR has over 2 million. PR has a larger population than Oregon as well

by eumc 2008-05-03 08:23AM | 0 recs
Good Catch

by optimusprime 2008-05-03 08:26AM | 0 recs
Re: Guam: Open Thread

I've been thinking about that a lot, and I wonder if it isn't an attempt to convince Puerto Ricans to move toward statehood?  I don't know the history of democratic primaries in PR, but it certainly seems like Democrats would be well served by getting Puerto Ricans to be able to vote in the GE.

by ProgressiveDL 2008-05-03 10:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Guam: Open Thread

PR has two parties, not Rep-Dem, but pro-statehood vs pro-status quo. They are quite happy with the status quo, they voted against statehood several times.

The only interesting thing about the Dem primaries in PR is this: Jesse Jackson actually won the non-binding primary (of 314k voters) in 1988 with 33%. The catch is that it was a five-person field.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.ht ml?res=940de2d91038f931a15750c0a96e94826 0

by eumc 2008-05-03 10:18AM | 0 recs
Re: Guam: Open Thread

Yeah, I know they are strongly pro-status quo.  I wondered if the Democratic Party thought they could push them toward statehood.

by ProgressiveDL 2008-05-03 10:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Guam: Open Thread

why?

by eumc 2008-05-03 10:35AM | 0 recs
Rasmussen: Oregon Poll

Off topic yes but Rasmussen has Obama up twelve in Oregon.  What can you say; the guy's base still loves the guy.  The "game-changer" will have to be Oregon, if not NC.

by Blazers Edge 2008-05-03 08:15AM | 0 recs
at this point there are not real game changers

I doubt there will be enough delegates netted by Clinton in all the next upcoming primaries to make a dent in the lead.

by kindthoughts 2008-05-03 08:17AM | 0 recs
Re: Guam: Open Thread

2 a.m. -- Obama at 768 votes, Clinton at 680 after 11 districts counted.

by doberman pinche 2008-05-03 08:43AM | 0 recs
Update: 6 point spread

Getting closer...

Tabulation half-done; Obama still in lead

Pacific News Center Staff Reporter 04.MAY.08

1:45 a.m. Guam - With 11 out of 19 precincts reporting, Senator Barack Obama is leading Senator Hillary Clinton by 6 percentage points.
The total preference count so far is Obama with 768 to Clinton's 680.

by kevin22262 2008-05-03 09:02AM | 0 recs
ha

ha.

by kevin22262 2008-05-03 12:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Guam: Open Thread

You know, people can say what they will about how bad the long primary season is for the party (and I'd like to see it end soon, too), but I think it's incredibly awesome that the people in Guam, of all places, know their votes matter.

by sricki 2008-05-03 09:19AM | 0 recs
Re: Guam: Open Thread

Gee, thanks for that.

by sricki 2008-05-03 09:47AM | 0 recs
This diary should be on the rec list.

Nothing more fun than watching primary results roll in, right?  And Guam is where it's happening.  

by GFORD 2008-05-03 09:27AM | 0 recs
Clinton Closes Gap

With 13 of 19 precincts reporting, Obama leads the popular vote 899-874. At one point, Obama had a 26 percentage point lead.

by Zzyzzy 2008-05-03 09:47AM | 0 recs
Re: Clinton Closes Gap

Actually that total for Obama is a mistake - if you add up the votes they total 1007.

by Piuma 2008-05-03 10:00AM | 0 recs
Re: Guam: Open Thread (UPDATE)

Here's the latest:


After 14 districts have been counted, Sen. Barack Obama maintains a lead over Sen. Hillary Clinton in the Democratic caucus, with about 54 percent of 2,230 total votes counted thus far

Obama got 37 votes in Ordot, 19 in Maina, 151 in Inarajan, 46 in Asan, 55 in Chalan Pago, 87 in Santa Rita, 102 in Mongmong-Toto-Maite, 28 in Hagåtña, 158 in Barrigada, 36 in Merizo, 49 in Piti, 131 in Sinajana, 108 in Agana Heights and 194 in Sinajana for a total of 1,201 votes.

Sen. Hillary Clinton took 18 votes in Ordot, 22 in Maina, 87 in Inarajan, 33 in Asan, 87 in Chalan Pago, 73 in Santa Rita, 81 in Mongmong-Toto-Maite, 29 votes in Hagåtña, 166 in Barrigada, 33 in Merizo, 51 in Piti, 89 in Sinajana, 105 in Agana Heights and 155 in Mangilao for a total of 1,029 votes.

In the race for chairman/vicechairman, the team of Pilar Lujan/Jaime Paulino has 1,002 votes in the 14 counted districts. Antonio Charfauros/Mary Ann Cabrera have 485 total votes and the team of Joseph Artero Cameron/Arlene P. Bordallo has 792 votes.

by Piuma 2008-05-03 10:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Guam: Open Thread (UPDATE)

Apparently Lujan is on record as saying she'll vote for the winner of the people's vote - so a Lujan/Paulino victory will mean (most likely) 2 delegates for Obama.

by Piuma 2008-05-03 10:18AM | 0 recs
Latte voting patterns

Yey! Hillary wins the only village with a Starbucks in the whole Guam: http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/5/ 3/125230/2287/220#c220

by eumc 2008-05-03 10:21AM | 0 recs
More latte voting patters

Mangilao Village goes for Obama 194-155. It has the University of Guam, of course.

But, from the Wikipedia page: "Located in the northeastern part of Mangilao is a community known as Latte Heights". This keeps getting funnier.

by eumc 2008-05-03 10:31AM | 0 recs
Obama Increases Lead

According to the Guam Daily News, Obama now leads 1393-1222 with 15 of 19 precincts reporting. Looks like Obama is going to win Guam.

by Zzyzzy 2008-05-03 10:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Increases Lead
Probably, but wait for Dededo, it has almost one quarter of the population
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villages_of _Guam
by eumc 2008-05-03 10:44AM | 0 recs
Clinton takes Tamuning!

(tongue in cheak - truthiness report)

A new turning point has been reached in the entire primary season -as Hillary Clinton has captured the village of Tamuning in Guam. This was a hard fought campaign but Clinton prevailed by a single vote, 193-192.

Overall Obama has 1,393 votes (53%) to Clinton's 1,222 (47%). However we still have not had results from the big villages of big villages is  Talofofo, Yigo, Yona, and, perhaps most significant, Dededo.

However, its a known fact that as Tamuning goes, so goes the nation. More proof that Obama is unelectable and Superdelegates must choose Hillary.

by benjaminsp 2008-05-03 10:58AM | 0 recs

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