Why Hillary Will Win Nevada

In 2004 I had a the great pleasure of being posted to Las Vegas by the Kerry Campaign to work in the Nevada Democratic HQ as I speak English and Spanish. Here is my original post on DKos as I packed my bags in Sydney Australia and head to Las Vegas.

This time allowed me to meet and work with many key Nevada politicians including Shelley Berkley, Harry and Rory Reid, Ruben Kihuen and many others. We worked very closely with all the unions and union leaders. Therefore, I got a very first-hand training of how Las Vegas and Nevada politics work. Harry Reid was also running for re-election, and his office was right next to ours.

During this time I broke the Rethug Voter Registration Scandal on DKos in a diary entitled:Thousands of Nevada Dem Voter Registrations Destroyed by Repugs. This was my first diary ever on the Rec List and the fall out from that scandal resonated throughout Nevada and adjacent states.

So with this knowledge I am providing an analysis of why I feel Hillary will do well in Nevada and probably win the caucuses by 2-3%.  I am also a Hillary partisan, as most Kossacks will be aware.

Analysis below the fold.  Cross-posted on DKos

Hillary's Endorsements

NEVADA
Congresswoman Shelley Berkley
State Treasurer Kate Marshall
State Senate Minority Leader Dina Titus
State Senator Bob Coffin
Assembly Majority Leader John Oceguera
State Assemblyman William Horne
Assemblyman Ruben J. Kihuen
Assemblywoman Kathy McClain
Assemblyman Harry Mortenson
Assemblyman Morse Arberry
Assemblywoman Susan Gerhardt
Mayor of Lovelock, Lena Johnson
Former Congressman James Bilbray
Former Governor Bob Miller
Former Las Vegas Mayor Jan Jones
Rory Reid, Son of Harry Reid and top Democratic Official.

Unions who have endorsed (or parent bodies have endorsed)
AFCSME/ SNEA                            5,000
PAT Local 2001 (Henderson, NV)         370
PAT Local 159 (Henderson, NV)       2,026
IATSE Local 720 in Las Vegas            1,722
NALC Branch 2502 (Las Vegas, NV)        1,673
ATU Local 1637 (Las Vegas, NV)         131
ATU Local 1758 (Las Vegas, NV)          82
BAC Local 13 (Las Vegas, NV)                 984
SMW Council (Sparks, NV)                   9
SMW Local 88 (Las Vegas, NV)               1,001
IAM Lodge 845 (Las Vegas, NV)         760
UTU Local 1043 (Reno, NV)                 113
UTU Local 1117 (Las Vegas, NV)          63
UTU Local 1775 (Elko, NV)                  20
Nevada Classified School Employees Association, 3,400

Note:The Nevada State Education Association (NSEA) has not endorsed Hillary, but many in their leadership have and the vast majority of its 18,000 members are widely perceived to be behind Hillary.

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The endorsement list reads like a dream-list for Hillary. Shelley Berkley, Rory Reid and Dina Titus sit atop the Las Vegas Democratic machine which is a smaller version of the Chicago machine that was so effective for Obama in neighbouring Iowa. The combination of Berkley, Reid and Titus can be relied on to deliver big, and there is a strong chance they will. Likewise having the support of Assembly Majority Leader John Oceguera and Assemblyman Ruben J. Kihuen, two of Nevada's top Latino politicians can likewise be relied upon to make major inroads into the Latino community for Hillary. Ruben, who ran Kerry's Latino outreach campaign, is a major up-and-coming star in the Latin community. A young man blessed with extraordinary good looks and powerful speaking ability in both English and Spanish, he is widely looked to as the "Barack Obama" of Nevada politics.


Discussion of the Culinary Union.
Of course the one star missing in the crown is the endorsement by the Culinary Union Local 226, which has gone to Barack Obama. While the Culinary Union is a major Nevada power broker no doubt, it is not as powerful as would appear from their claim of 60,000 members.  First they do not have 60,000 paid up members or even close. This boast, done by most unions on their website, refers to rolling membership over 3-5 years and to any retirees and often to family members on union pensions or support.

Lets look at an example, SEIU Nevada, which has also endorsed Obama, claims 17,000 members on their website, but when you look at their audited figures available on the AFL-CIO Website, they in fact have between 8,000-9,000 paid up members (less then half of their website boast):

SEIU Local 1107, 8,142
SEIU Local 135, 21

The Culinary Local 226 does not post its audited figures on the website (surprise, surprise) but their likely number of currently paid-up members will be more like 40,000 than 60,000.  Furthermore, the Culinary Union in Las Vegas, is one of the most transient unions in America as workers come and go from the Strip with huge and rapid turnover. When we were using Culinary union phone logs to call for Kerry, wrong numbers and false contacts were over 50%.  Also many Culinary members are greencard holders that are not able to vote. So when you wheedle the 60,000 number down to a real figure of eligible voters who even could possibly turn out, then you are more likely down to 25,000-30,000 members. These numbers are well matched by Hillary's Unions (I have used the audited accounts for her numbers above). Plus Hillary's unions with AFSCME, the Postal Workers, Brick Layers and School Employees are we are well-distributed across the state giving strong representation in each and every geographic area.

So at the end of the day Hillary's union members can almost match Obama's union numbers worker for worker and and have a far wider geographic spread, giving them a likely tie in union households if everyone follows their union script.  It will all be about turnout.

Effect of the Law Suit:
While the lawsuit has likely galvanised some of the Culinary workers for Obama, it likewise has galvanised the other unions for Hillary and John Edwards who together would have more worker members in their combined union endorsements than Barack. Many of the other Nevada unions have historically expressed displeasure over the power of the Culinaries and how they have wielded it in the past, and this whole lawsuit dispute highlights this historic and on-going tension. This will likely lead to a high turnout on both sides of the fence, and guarantee Hillary and Obama a good block of votes. Also one of the main issues is that Las Vegas-based Culinaries got their own caucuses, but the the Upstate Culinaries (Reno, Tahoe, Carson City etc) did not, and this was apparently part of the original agreement that the big Upstate Casinos thought they would have.  So this leaves the Upstate Culinaries left out and more likely to break ranks and move to Hillary.

Conclusion with Unions: With the unions, it will all be about turn out and who can keep their ranks from breaking. Hillary's union ranks are already tight and not likely to break.  Obama's ranks are already fractured in Las Vegas and the Upstate along both Latino support lines and Upstate-Downstate lines, so Obama is on the back foot in terms of breakage with a slight front foot in terms of overall plurality numbers.

Upstate-Downstate Divide: Like in New York, Minnesota and Michigan, there is a big geographic divide in voting in Nevada. With the perception of Las Vegas getting all the attention in the south, and the more rural and sparsely distributed Upstaters tending to get left out.  Hillary is leading in the Upstate by huge margins both union and non-union especially in the rural areas. Look at Upper Michigan where over 20 counties voted Hillary 75+ when in the rest of the state she got 55%.  Hillary will clean up in the rural and remote areas, and it is these voters which will likely throw her over the top.

California Effect:  Always in Nevada presidential politics, hundreds/thousands of Californian partisans flood in just before the polls. Both Hillary and Obama have trucked in bus loads of people, and it is likely that they will have canceled each other out with equally good numbers in both camps.

Polls:
The polls are now slightly trending for Clinton after giving Obama slight leads right after Iowa. RCP has a good run down.  

Reuters/CSpan/Zogby, 01/15 - 01/17, 814 LV, Clinton +5.0
Clinton 42   
Obama 37   
Edwards 12   

Mason-Dixon, 01/14 - 01/16, 500 LV, Clinton +9.0
Clinton 41   
Obama 32   
Edwards 14

American Res. Group, 01/09 - 01/14, 600 LV, Clinton +3.0   
Clinton 35   
Obama 32   
Edwards 25

Research 2000, 01/11 - 01/13, 500 LV, Obama +2.0
Clinton 30
Obama 32   
Edwards 27

However, given the perils of Caucus predictions combined with the new caucus and format here, the polls are likely of limited use.

WHO WILL WIN NEVADA
Being as I did predict New Hampshire quite well between Hillary and Obama, and considering the above analysis, I will come out with a prediction, which this time is actually very close to where the polls are now.

HILLARY 40%
OBAMA 37%
EDWARDS 23%

And I will further predict that it will be a high turnout Upstate for Hillary which will clinch the state victory over a razor thin small Obama lead in Las Vegas and overall tie in Clark County. So I am out on the branch again.

Anyway I welcome all or any critiques of my critique.  I am no expert on Nevada, but I certainly enjoyed my time there and learning about the great Silver State.

Tags: 2008 Primaries, Hillary Clinton, Nevada (all tags)

Comments

22 Comments

Re: Why Hillary Will Win Nevada

Cool! Let me go on record stating that Hillary will win by over 10 points in Nevada.

by moi moi 2008-01-18 07:29PM | 0 recs
Major Clark County Advantages, Not Upstate/Rural

My sense is that Hillary has to be favored to win Nevada. (I am not going to "predict" victory.)

The Reid/Clark County political establishment (which the diarist details) should give her a massive GOTV advantage over her foes in Clark County. How could it not?

If the Reid/Clark County political machine fails Hillary today, it would be a major shock to the Nevada political system, and truly underscore the impotence of that machine.  In fact, a loss by Hillary (very unexpected) would probably signal the ascendency of a new political force in Nevada. (Obama's grass roots machine?)

The diarist is, I believe, mistaken when he suggests that upstate and rural will go for Hillary in a big way. Notice how cursory his analysis is in this section. IMHO, if Hillary is relying upon upstate and rural to deliver Nevada to her, she will lose. All my sources are telling me that Hillary is running second or third in upstate and rural. In addition, the Reno Gazette endorsement of Obama further underscores...what I predict will be true...Hillary will lose Reno/Washoe and rural.

Hillary has got to do it with the machine, in Vegas, or she will lose. Conventional wisdom suggests Hillary should win. But then again...it will be very interesting.

by Demo37 2008-01-19 08:14AM | 0 recs
Well...

It turns out I was correct.  

Hillary lost Reno/Washoe and rural.

She had to win it in Clark, with the machine...and she did.

by Demo37 2008-01-19 04:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Why Hillary Will Win Nevada

Look lets just hope that rory reid , whouley , and all the precinct captains come through tomorrow.

Its hard to guage this caucuses so I cannot make any prediction but I am upbeat.

Hope Nevada gives her victory tomorrow , they can help change the world.

by lori 2008-01-18 07:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Why Hillary Will Win Nevada

Lori,

You captured my sentiments exactly. By supporting Hillary, we can help change the world. She is by far  the best presidential candidate we have had in a generation. That is why I am so passionate about her. Good luck to all you Hillary volunteers and staffers in Nevada tomorrow morning.

by moi moi 2008-01-18 07:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Why Hillary Will Win Nevada

I know they are going to be fighting tooth and nail to split the two states coming up .

Obama is going to win South Carolina and she has to pick up Nevada or else it would be tough going into super tuesday.

If she can pick up Nevada , she would make it a close loss in South Carolina but if Obama wins Nevada it just makes South Carolina easy for him.

The primaries are going to be a lot tougher for her than the general , I truly believe that if she is the nominee she would be the only other democrat that would win the nomination with majority of the popular vote.

The funny thing is I have always held her in higher regard , although Bill's ideology is closer to mine , but I have always thought she would be a better president than Bill.

Of Course it helps that she can change the course of American History by being the first female commander in chief.

by lori 2008-01-18 08:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Why Hillary Will Win Nevada

Sorry ,

only other democrat other than Jimmy Carter in recent memory.

She would win 51% of the popular vote.

by lori 2008-01-18 08:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Why Hillary Will Win Nevada

This was a very informative diary about the publicly touted vs. the actual make up of union membership.  You mentioned the Culinary Union members outside of Las Vegas, who weren't given their own caucus site, won't they be as pissed about the lawsuit as their Las Vegas people?  Has the story about being strong-armed into voting for Obama made the rounds and how does this come in to play?

by Kingstongirl 2008-01-18 07:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Why Hillary Will Win Nevada

No because a the lawsuit if you read it is about how the agreement was changed after the agreement had been made.  The MSM made it out like everybody agreed on the deal and then backed out when Obama got the endorsement.  In fact the Teachers Union claim was that yes there was an agreement, but the agreement was then changed in even more favour of the Culinary Union.

Part of the deal was that there would be caucus sites made for big casinos Upstate.  But that did not eventuate, so the Upstate Culinaries are pissed off that once again Las Vegas gets all the attention and they get nothing.  So this sentiment may make them more likely to break with he union and support Clinton.

As one culinary Clinton supporter was quoted today, "we stand together on the picket line, but the decision for president is personal."

by Norwegian Chef 2008-01-18 08:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Why Hillary Will Win Nevada

Okay, one more question.  You also talked about bus load of Californians coming in (my husband is from Oregon and he and his family always talk about the invading Californians) and supporting both Hillary and Obama.  Does this mean CA people who are going to vote in the NV caucus?

by Kingstongirl 2008-01-18 08:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Why Hillary Will Win Nevada

no they can not caucus without a proven Nevada address or ID, but they help canvass, rides to the polls, phone banks etc.

by Norwegian Chef 2008-01-18 08:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Why Hillary Will Win Nevada

Great diary, love the insights.

by Steve M 2008-01-18 07:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Why Hillary Will Win Nevada

Hope she wins. It's by no means a must win, but it would set it up great for her to take those critical western states on Super Tuesday. Thanks for the insites.

by Christopher Lib 2008-01-18 08:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Why Hillary Will Win Nevada

It would be so nice, but anything can happen- we know that- over-confidence is what hurt Obama the last time around- I'm not sure of anything until the actual results are in- and I'm going to be like that for every state- who knows- Edwards might even sneak in a win- I'm not counting on or counting out anything.  But we'll know tomorrow.  That's good enough for me.  I might be upset- but I won't be surprised at anything happening. (She SHOULD have won Iowa- but at least the Iowa "bump" myth has been laid to rest- I knew at least THAT was a bunch of bull)

by reasonwarrior 2008-01-18 10:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Why Hillary Will Win Nevada

Zogby has Hillary increasing her lead Friday night in their rolling poll. Edwards collapsing.

From Jan 17-18 (15-17 in parenthesis)

Clinton 45 (42)
Obama 39 (37)
Edwards 6 (12)

by hwc 2008-01-18 10:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Why Hillary Will Win Nevada

hwc, let's not quote Zogby. I don't trust him or his polls.

by lonnette33 2008-01-19 03:40AM | 0 recs
Re: Why Hillary Will Win Nevada

much as I wish John Edwards would disapper and never be heard from again, this is a little much. I think his support is closer to 20%, and Zogby is... in the ARG club.

by alipi 2008-01-19 09:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Why Hillary Will Win Nevada

I have no idea what framecop is talking about. However, in regards to my own comment on Edwards' support:

Zogby: 1
Alipi: 0

I've never enjoyed being wrong so much.

by alipi 2008-01-19 11:40AM | 0 recs
Ruben Kihuen...

is an interesting guy to keep an eye on.  I know that the Obama camp went after him aggressively,  even to the point of having an event at Rancho High School where he attended (less than 10 years ago, he's only 27).  He didn't endorse HRC until November.

At the end of the day, Kihuen could not go opposite the other leaders in Nevada politics.  He needs them to eventually be a Governor or Senator.  Not to diminish him, but he is not a Barack Obama because he was born in Guadalajara, Mexico.

He's got a pretty cool My Space page...

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fus eaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=63 332044

by mboehm 2008-01-19 12:40AM | 0 recs
Re: Why Hillary Will Win Nevada

Awesome diary Norwegian Chef. I'm not going to attempt to make a prediction on this one. I think the race is extremely close. I'm just hoping and praying that HRC pulls it out. A win would be huge considering the CU endorsement of Obama and the voter intimidation allegations.

Oh and Ruben Kihuen is a Hottie. Love him to pieces.

by lonnette33 2008-01-19 03:44AM | 0 recs
Realistic analysis, pro Clinton but cautious.

Great diary. Let's have more like this where there is some discussion of facts, issues and theories, and less tripe of the "why I stopped loving Hillary" variety.

by ottovbvs 2008-01-19 04:25AM | 0 recs
Re: Why Hillary Will Win Nevada

Great post, thank you. And GREAT news. Go Hillary!

by cc 2008-01-19 08:45AM | 0 recs

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