The New Texas Caucus Lies
by nklein, Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 11:32:42 PM EDT
Finally, here's (.pdf file) the evidence of which I've been asking Pacific John. For months now, I've been asking Pacific John for some proof of his malicious allegations. And now it has finally been delivered to me in a diary by Alegre. And so I read the document expecting to be persuaded by all the evidence of illegal activity, but it was not to be so. I saw in two seconds that this document and the "incidents" that are reported have holes through which I can drive a Buick. And it turns out that the only campaign that might have done something untoward is Clinton's (Check out the end for more info).
First, Alegre says that this "legitimate" claim of fraud comes from a "neutral" observer. This same "neutral" observer has a on the homepage a huge banner stating "Count their votes now," with big pictures of Michigan and Florida. Very neutral indeed.
Second, the document is pathetic. There is no indication of who produced the document. No labeling of its author or the organization for which it was produced. The only thing aside from the "incidents" reported is the number A/72472998.2. I googled and searched yahoo for that number and came up with nothing. Alegre or Pacific John or another completely unidentified and unaccountable individual could have made this report. But it is unlikely to be an official document of the Clinton campaign, the TDP or the Secretary of State, because if I've learned one thing since I've got involved in politics and interested in government it is that organizations like those stamp their name all over their documents. So how are we supposed to believe that these events actually happened?
Next, three out of the first five "incidents" reported are so pathetic that they can be dismissed without me doing much research at all. The first "incident" claimed says that in Precinct 56 Obama supporters did all manners of unethical activity, including writing in Obama's name on blank sheets and allowing out of state people to vote and telling people to leave. This "incident" report even claims that the person posing as "the highest ranking official in the Democratic Party" somehow kicked out a news outfit from Channel 7. You know it's funny, I remember staying up pretty late and I cruise numerous news outlets, but I don't remember any reports of a news agency getting kicked out of a caucus. So I googled "Texas Caucus Precinct 56" and I received no mention of that precinct in any negative light, except for Alegre's diaries. See if you can find something I missed.
In Precinct 61, a 19-delegate precinct, the Obama supporters a minority somehow managed to get 34 delegates appointed to go to the district caucus apportioned 18 for BO and 16 for Clinton. And they expect us to believe them? How is heaven's name did a minority of the Obama supporters manage to appoint 15 delegates more than the precinct was awarded? Especially when they didn't even stay to name delegates?
An Obama supporter in Precinct 36 managed to grab the roll and somehow managed to allow Republicans and out of staters to vote. The "incident report" says that a gentleman named Javier was lucky enough to run into a Fox News Reporter and he gave an interview. So I wandered over to Fox News' much maligned website and did a search for Texas Caucus Fraud and I received 20 hits. Not a single one of them mentioned any fraud by Obama at the caucus and most didn't relate to the 2008 Texas caucuses. I did another search for Precinct 36 and received about 30 hits. Not a single one of them related to the Texas Caucus. So no thank you very much to Alegre who made me have to go to foxnews.com.
In all my searching I did find one article that discussed shenanigans during the Texas Caucus. It was by Marc Ambinder and it relayed the story of only one incident in El Paso. This incident had no verifiable proof mind you, but the accusation by the Clinton campaign of Obama precinct workers taking the packet in precinct 87. Ambinder ends his blog post with this:
Objectively, the process seems very messy and the state party seems in over its head.
Don't you get it there was definitely major issues of accountability in the Texas caucus, but there is not evidence of fraud. There has never been a single neutral or objective observer to mention the possibility of fraud. There has been not one peep out of the Texas Democratic Party of anything untoward happening. There have been no complaints followed up on by the Secretary of State or any other official in Texas. There has been not one document from the Obama campaign outlining any plan to commit such a massive fraud. And all this incident report does is accuse Obama voters of questionable activity. Not a single Obama staffer is even implicated, but that doesn't stop them from screaming that it goes all the way to the top.
Finally, I decided to go to the Burnt Orange Report to check out these claims of fraud in El Paso. And it turns out that not only is Obama's campaign full of criminals, but they are also incompetent. Because they did all this fraud and thuggery and couldn't even get a better delegate breakdown to the state convention than 157-18 for Clinton. There are challenges, though. 22 of them in fact all on behalf of Obama. Now, I don't mind you insulting my intelligence with these idiotic charges, but I will not let you insult Hillary Clinton's intelligence and competence. There is no way a woman as accomplished as Hillary Clinton is going to lose the Democratic nomination to someone who is so incompetent that they couldn't even with the use of fraud get a better delegate breakdown than 157-18 for Clinton.
I also decided to do a search of Burnt Orange Report of the Texas Caucus Fraud. The search did not turn up one incident reported to the blog of any questionable activity by the Obama campaign. In fact, it happened to turn up an interesting diary that actually has a source. It seems that there is an article by the Dallas Morning News describing Clinton caucus training materials:
The materials say in part, "DO NOT allow the supporter of another candidate to serve in leadership roles."
It goes on to say, "If our supporters are outnumbered, ask the Temporary Chair if one of our supporters can serves as the Secretary, in the interest of fairness.
This Texas caucus fraud stuff is just nonsense and anybody who embraces it are liars. It has been disproved in all ways possible to disprove a negative. The more people cling to it the more desperate you sound and the less likely any Democrat will be able to win in November. Please provide evidence or STOP LYING.