Check out the video of the woman who interrupted Bill Clinton to ask why health care failed in the 90s? He leaned in to get her question... but just a few words, so that he could then answer something else. She tried to finish what she was saying, and Bill goes "Now wait a minute, wait a minute - I let you talk, now you listen to me!"
The crowd erupts, Bill smirks, and repeats "you listen to me... you listen to me".
I am not going tit-for-tat with you. You, and the diarist, are using identity politics to try and get everyone to retreat into defensive crouches, and possibly to keep a fire lit under yourselves as well.
Has their been sexism aimed at Hillary? Yes. Has their been racism aimed at Obama? Yes. Is it the norm? Absolutely not. Does it justify "when will the bitch quit?" No.
And this was exactly what I said in my last post - I have no idea why you just dragged that reeking corpse into here.
"Clinton is being held to a different standard than virtually any other candidate in history," wrote Steven Stark in the Boston Phoenix. "When Clinton is simply doing what everyone else has always done, she's constantly attacked as an obsessed and crazed egomaniac, bent on self-aggrandizement at the expense of her party."
WRONG. Mike Huckabee was treated the same way, both by the press, who gave him no realistic chance, and by McCain, who said that "he can campaign as long as he wants".
The whole thing made me want to start a "Re-instate the West Virginia 6!" movement.
Or go on to ban everyone accusing sexism of playing a role in the election, and then ban anyone who has complained about the evils of the southern "black voter bloc".
That last category would turn this site into the admins talking to each other.
The Clinton of 2008 has reminded me so much of the Clinton of 1992. The tactic is to pretend that you're being attacked.
I remember a debate where Jerry Brown brought up allegations that Clinton had be steering contracts to his wife's law firm. He responded, "I don't care what you say about me, but don't you dare attack my wife." The audience cheered - this was when he was still able to get away with that - and the point was lost.
As a matter of fact, that's what "I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies" came out of. A reporter asked her about the same issue, and she tried to make it seem as if it was an attack on her having a career.
And then Republicans attacked her for "belittling stay-at-home-moms" and phony outrage met phony outrage.
But those arguments were made throughout all of them, with the exception of Clinton/Brown, where Brown just wasn't considered to be a general election threat.
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Got yourself worked up yet? Nice and lathered up? Now have fun talking to yourself.
It's seriously a wonder to behold.
Check out the video of the woman who interrupted Bill Clinton to ask why health care failed in the 90s? He leaned in to get her question... but just a few words, so that he could then answer something else. She tried to finish what she was saying, and Bill goes "Now wait a minute, wait a minute - I let you talk, now you listen to me!"
The crowd erupts, Bill smirks, and repeats "you listen to me... you listen to me".
I am not going tit-for-tat with you. You, and the diarist, are using identity politics to try and get everyone to retreat into defensive crouches, and possibly to keep a fire lit under yourselves as well.
Has their been sexism aimed at Hillary? Yes. Has their been racism aimed at Obama? Yes. Is it the norm? Absolutely not. Does it justify "when will the bitch quit?" No.
And this was exactly what I said in my last post - I have no idea why you just dragged that reeking corpse into here.
WRONG. Mike Huckabee was treated the same way, both by the press, who gave him no realistic chance, and by McCain, who said that "he can campaign as long as he wants".
And that's just this year.
The whole thing made me want to start a "Re-instate the West Virginia 6!" movement.
Or go on to ban everyone accusing sexism of playing a role in the election, and then ban anyone who has complained about the evils of the southern "black voter bloc".
That last category would turn this site into the admins talking to each other.
I'm pretty sure there's a Latin phrase for the logical fallacy of "if one does it, they all do it."
Would you want to be defending the people who have used racism against Barack Obama?
Well, which was it? If you're going to accuse people of calling the Clintons racists, you'd better back it up.
And, I guess I could go on, thus the battles of the 90s were joined.
Thank you, Captain Obvious! ;)
The Clinton of 2008 has reminded me so much of the Clinton of 1992. The tactic is to pretend that you're being attacked.
I remember a debate where Jerry Brown brought up allegations that Clinton had be steering contracts to his wife's law firm. He responded, "I don't care what you say about me, but don't you dare attack my wife." The audience cheered - this was when he was still able to get away with that - and the point was lost.
As a matter of fact, that's what "I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies" came out of. A reporter asked her about the same issue, and she tried to make it seem as if it was an attack on her having a career.
And then Republicans attacked her for "belittling stay-at-home-moms" and phony outrage met phony outrage.
But those arguments were made throughout all of them, with the exception of Clinton/Brown, where Brown just wasn't considered to be a general election threat.
Why "bitch" by the way?
I haven't insulted anyone.
Linfar is allowed to say anything she wants. So am I.
Ted Kennedy didn't. Just off the top of my head.
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