The City of Brotherly Love Awash in Bullets and Gun Violence

Philly.com reports on so much gun violence in Philadelphia it's difficult to add it all up. I came up with 3 dead and 7 wounded. And in all fairness to the gun fetishists, there were a couple vehicular incidents too.

I congratulate all the gun-rights activists who have succeeded in making Pennsylvania the gun haven it is today.

What's your opinion?  Please leave a comment.

 

cross posted at Mikeb302000

 

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Put the blame where it belongs...

So people with legal gun ownership permits/carry permits are the source of all the gun violence in the city? Surprise me with the statistics that show that is happening. My guess is the gun violence stems from people who illegally possess illegal, stolen guns, not the body of law-abiding citizens who have gotten their permits by submitting to FBI background checks, checks on their mental health, and who have registered with the proper authorities that they have been required to do.

 

My guess is those fatalities were the result of criminals (people who obtained their guns without following the legal process and who are not registered with the appropriate authorities) using stolen guns obtained illegally to kill others (gun owners who submit to legal processes to obtain and register their guns do not generally kill other people). You should note for the record the difference between those citizens who follow the law and obtain and use their guns in a Constitutional way and those who are committing the horrible crimes you so sensationally highlight who do so with illegal, stolen guns, and who are not following the gun laws of the state and the city.

 

And by the way, I am a flaming liberal, progressive Democrat who believes in the Constitution. The Supreme Court has ruled under Heller that owning and carrying firearms is Constitutionally protected, so we all need to uphold the full faith and credit of the Constitution and not be knee-jerk pollyannas decrying the falling of the sky by looking in the wrong direction. Yes, the crime of murder with a firearm is heinous. But you need to ascribe the proper ownership of that criminal act to the person performing it, rather than infer that those who follow the law and own and use their firearms legally in accordance with the law and the Constitution are somehow the blame.

by mcarnes 2011-06-15 09:41AM | 0 recs
mcarnes said

"So people with legal gun ownership permits/carry permits are the source of all the gun violence in the city?" Why do you have to exaggerate what I say? That's not fair or honest.  I don't say ALL gun violence is committed by lawful gun owners. I say SOME is.

 

"But you need to ascribe the proper ownership of that criminal act to the person performing it, rather than infer that those who follow the law and own and use their firearms legally in accordance with the law and the Constitution are somehow the blame."  What I say is a criminal is responsible for what he does, in most cases anyway.  But lawful gun owners who fight to keep gun laws as lax as they are, which enhances the gun violence problem, must accept their share of responsibility for that enhanced gun violence. You can't have it both ways.  If you want criminals to be responsible for their actions then law abiding folks have to be responsible for their actions too.

 

http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2009/04/personal-responsibility.html

 

 

by Mikeb302000 2011-06-16 03:23AM | 0 recs
mcarnes said

"So people with legal gun ownership permits/carry permits are the source of all the gun violence in the city?" Why do you have to exaggerate what I say? That's not fair or honest.  I don't say ALL gun violence is committed by lawful gun owners. I say SOME is.

 

"But you need to ascribe the proper ownership of that criminal act to the person performing it, rather than infer that those who follow the law and own and use their firearms legally in accordance with the law and the Constitution are somehow the blame."  What I say is a criminal is responsible for what he does, in most cases anyway.  But lawful gun owners who fight to keep gun laws as lax as they are, which enhances the gun violence problem, must accept their share of responsibility for that enhanced gun violence. You can't have it both ways.  If you want criminals to be responsible for their actions then law abiding folks have to be responsible for their actions too.

 

http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2009/04/personal-responsibility.html

 

 

by Mikeb302000 2011-06-16 03:23AM | 0 recs
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