Obama Won Yesterday's Showdown -- Hands Down

Crossposted fromMY LEFT WING

First, for all you people who think he was "taken by surprise" by McCain's announcement -- the withered fool showed his hand in their second phone conversation. You don't think from that MOMENT Camp Obama was preparing a response? Pshaw.

Obama may not share all my political views, but with each passing day he has my growing admiration as a superb politician.

He made everyone wait for his response -- and they cut into all programming to run his PRESS CONFERENCE about it. He got free air time to

A) Act, sound and look Presidential -- AGAIN;

B) Tell the TRUE story of how things transpired that day -- AND make McCain look like the weaselly douchebag he is by illustrating how McCain stole the credit for the joint statement idea and tried to undercut Obama by going ahead with the "postpone the debate" idea and calling his own press conference; and

C) He basically got to call McCain a chickenshit who can't walk and chew gum at the same time -- in his usual cool, unimpeachable way.

Every day, in every way, I'm feeling better and better about this election.

Tags: debates, mccain, obama (all tags)



Ever time the douchebags think they've got him

 He comes back with shit they never anticipated.

It's called "winning." Get used to it.

by Maryscott OConnor 2008-09-25 07:10AM | 0 recs
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At this stage of the game, I'm starting to think this is Obama.  It's not handlers or strategy or narrative or campaign staff.  Obama knows how to react and he strikes the appropriate tone.  I started suspecting this around the Bristol Palin tabloid moment and he's done nothing since then to make me think otherwise.

by the mollusk 2008-09-25 07:44AM | 0 recs

 I heard some right wing surrogate lightweight yesterday respond to a query about Palin's inaccessiblity by saying Obama was the most "stage managed and scripted" candidate he'd ever seen...

I was surprised his pants didn't spontaneously combust.

by Maryscott OConnor 2008-09-25 08:15AM | 0 recs
This is their idiot's strategy..

Take whatever criticisms that their focus groups are leveling at them and parrot them out directed not at themselves, but at their opposition.

Another explanation.. pathological projection.

Its common to people with pathological character disorders like narcissistic personality disorder to "project" their own inner doubts onto others. They are very good at denial of their own subconscious.. but they can't get rid of the doubt completely.

by architek 2008-09-25 09:51AM | 0 recs
more like paranoid personality disorder project

a lot, narcissists really do think they're the shit.

by FLS 2008-09-26 12:45AM | 0 recs
It really is him.

I've volunteered at some of the events, you can feel it coming off the staffers who travel around with him.   It was clear listening to Maj. General Gration yesterday (not someone unused to leadership, I bet), that Obama drove the activity around him.  No-one else is setting the tone, this is Obama all day long.  this is not a "handler" run campaign, and it won't be a handler-run presidency.

I think he has more than brass-enough monkeys to take on anyone face to face, and that's what we need.  Reagan may have scared the hell out of me when he sat down across from Gorbachev and "fine, you run off and do that and see how that works for you", but that's what you need to be able to do sometimes when you are leader of the US.  Bush is a blusterer and a bully, Obama knows how much power he has (and doesn't have) and isn't afraid to use it wisely.

I can't wait to see him lead this country.  We haven't had that for a long time.

by chrisblask 2008-09-25 08:20AM | 0 recs
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He is the best counter-puncher I can remember in National poltics, well, clearly, since when the Big Dog was in his prime.

It's like watching Ali at his prime. He lets you punch your selfout, then WHAMO, he hits you with 5 shots in about 1/2 second, looking like he is not even exerting any effort.

It's exactly as MOC says: Which candidate is looking Presidential, and which is looking like a drama queen with his hair (or what's left of it) on fire.

by WashStateBlue 2008-09-25 07:52AM | 0 recs
I agree - and it's especially obvious

against this second-rate chump he's in the ring with now.

He might have gotten a good sweat defeating Hillary Clinton, but he makes this look easy.

by activatedbybush 2008-09-25 08:46AM | 0 recs
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Sand day when fat Tony is right.  The media is spinning for Obama and attacking McCain at every turn, right or wrong.

Sickening.  Will it be okay with everyone here if they decide the next time around the GOP candidate is God given, and should win?

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep 24/media-chronicles

by RichardFlatts 2008-09-25 09:02AM | 0 recs
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Its okay McCain has you to spin for him. I am sure you are way more effective than the media any day.



p.s. You are a troll

by JDF 2008-09-25 09:11AM | 0 recs
What's sad is when

simply telling the truth is considered "spinning". Like GOP lies are so sacrosanct that it is heresy to debunk them.

God FORBID we consider the possibility that McCain is ducking the debates! For many years, in prison, he was unable to debate anyone.

The Media a hungry bear. It will eat you or your opponent. You're welcome to weep that McCain is the current entree, but don't expect much company on a Dem blog.

by Neef 2008-09-25 10:17AM | 0 recs
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I thought we are already dealing with that rationale for the VP nominee.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-09-25 11:35AM | 0 recs
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Is it Sand Day already? Crap -- I haven't finished sewing my "Hooray for Silicon!" banner.

by jere7my 2008-09-25 12:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Won
I must say, it's absolutely wonderful to hear the Washington Times whine about unfair coverage of presidential candidates. Oh, the irony!
The righties just can't spin away what a bad choice Palin was, and how she is slowly, but surely, destroying McCain's last chance to be president.
Too bad, so sad, as the song goes.
by skohayes 2008-09-25 03:21PM | 0 recs
I agree that he won but...

the media told everyone otherwise. They couldn't get the words "startled" and "scrambled" out of their damn mouths fast enough. I was frustrated all day.

by JDF 2008-09-25 09:10AM | 0 recs
Obama showed Leadership Qualities
Yesterday, McCain panicked, probably because of his declining poll number. But, so much for suspending the campaign. Sara Palin is still campaigning today. In fact, she's campaigning (doing a press event) in New York at Ground Zero. So, once again, McCain demonstrated his ability to look us in the eye and lie. And, he showed us how easy it is for him to put politics above country.
by zenful6219 2008-09-25 09:12AM | 0 recs
recc'd for

AND make McCain look like the weaselly douchebag he is

by Hedda Lettuce1 2008-09-25 09:28AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Won Yesterday's Showdown -- Hands Down

Yesterday may turn out to be THE PIVOTAL MOMENT of the entire election-solidifying Obama's calm cool and collected 'presidential' stature vs McCain looking disturbed under fire

I think the debate will happen--and all Obaba has to do now do is to project 1)a presidential demeanour (leader) and 2)knowledge

by ionsys 2008-09-25 09:34AM | 0 recs
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We'll see how it plays out with voters.  He won it for me, but then he pretty much wins it everyday for me.

by Drummond 2008-09-25 10:22AM | 0 recs
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rec'd for the picture.

snorting funny. excellent.

Now if we can get McCain in front of a Grandpa Simson statue....

by redwagon 2008-09-25 10:31AM | 0 recs
Quote of the Day

It's amazing what you can get done when you're not looking to try to get credit for it.

Senator Barack Obama - Obama suggests McCain at fault for snag in negotiations Salon 26 Sep 08

What more can you say?

by Shaun Appleby 2008-09-25 03:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Won Yesterday's Showdown -- Hands Down

The focus on the instant by team Obama isn't very productive.

Sure Obama scored some points.

But the McCain camp would have taken that into account.

The McCain camp likely has a trick up their sleeve such as actually having inside information on who is about to go belly up or what factor is about to force action.

How its perceived TODAY doesn't matter.

Its how its perceived in 2 weeks or 40 days that matters.

McCain is driving the pace, Obama isn't.

If that keeps up Obama is at the mercy of McCain not connecting on his punches.

by dtaylor2 2008-09-25 04:41PM | 0 recs
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Oh, bollocks.  The problem is that we, as Democrats, have trouble fathoming the depths of cynicism and manipulation that Republicans are capable of in these situations.  I mean, you wouldn't suppose that McCain would jeopardise the economic security, such as it is, of the nation for an election, would you?  But that's exactly what he and the '08 Republicans are doing.  Callow and petty, yes, but there it is.

I think the thing you are hinting at is that, for once, Congressional Democrats, and Obama, should stop playing nanny and play some serious chicken with these bastards.  They broke it, let them buy it, I reckon.  If the whole country goes to hell in a hand-basket because McCain and the GOP are trying to manoeuvre Democrats into standing trustingly on the cliff just so they can push us over again, I say duck at the last moment and wave as they go by.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-09-25 04:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Won Yesterday's Showdown -- Hands Down

Lets suppose that the obvious has happened.

1)  Companies have gone bankrupt

2)  Companies are threatening to go bankrupt

3)  There is a real threat of depression style collapse

4)  The republicans won't support a bail out in the form that the president wants.

How does McCain win?

He latches on to the correct move which is a bailout.  Does so in such a way that he is against the GOP.  Does so in such a way that Obama needs to follow his lead or take the risks.

But McCain likely knows which of the next steps is true

5A)  Market hype is overblown there is no ripple coming doing nothing is the wisest move.

5B)  Market is screwed no matter which way we go doing nothing is the wisest move.

5C)  Market is ill but bailout will fix it.

McCain's moves are wise in that he is shielding himself from B and C and in doing so taking total ownership of C

I personally think from watching that its unlikely its A.

by dtaylor2 2008-09-25 10:17PM | 0 recs
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Well then we both agree the crisis is genuine, which puts us in a minority among the electorate, for starters.  But if McCain is so clever, why did he by into the House Budget Commitee's 'insurance' alternative which has already been rejected out of hand by Paulson as unworkable?  And why would he have allied himself, at least tangentially, with the recalcitrant House Republicans whom are actually opposing the bailout as proposed without, apparently, a viable alternative?

I don't see the signs of great statesmanship or clever political tactics here.  He's basically isolated himself from his Senate colleagues and risks being perceived as a spoiler with no coherent Plan B.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-09-25 10:57PM | 0 recs
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If he is at the debate without an agreement I would be inclined to agree with you.

by dtaylor2 2008-09-26 01:50PM | 0 recs
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That seems to be the way it has panned out.  It's nice to agree with you, in fact I reckon you would find a lot more collegial good-will here if you occasionally mentioned the aspirations you share in common with your fellow progressive Democrats.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-09-26 02:05PM | 0 recs
No inside info.

McCain has the WH, but we have Congress.  They can't negotiate unilaterally.  If there's inside info, Pelosi and Reid are in on it.  So Obama's in on it.

Only way McCain can come out looking good on this is if he gets his name on it.  Which our guys won't let happen.

by Ramo 2008-09-25 09:10PM | 0 recs
Re: No inside info.

Fed and secretary of treasury often get inside info first.

When AIG and other companies in trouble go begging for money they don't call Pelosi.

The administration has the inside track on the inside information.

by dtaylor2 2008-09-25 10:10PM | 0 recs


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