The polls coming out now cannot be attributed to "name recognition" when it comes to Hillary Clinton, unless you are inferring that Barack Obama and John Edwards do not have name recognition. They all do. The country has had ample opportunity to get to know all three top tier candidates. Edwards ran for President; then for Vice-President, and he's been on every talk show on television in the weeks leading up to and in the weeks following his official announcement. Barack has been given the pop coverage of a superstar.
No, these polls are a reflection of the electorate's preferences.
You are going to find pockets of Hillary haters wherever you go in the country and certain areas of the U.S. will cough up more of them than others.
In reality though, Hillary Clinton has never NOT been at the top of every single poll conducted over the past few years. Heck, she was coming in first in 2004 polls, even though she was never a candidate for Pres. in 2004.
A new Harris Interactive poll published today has her with an even wider lead over Obama and Edwards. What does this mean? It means that MOST Democrats in the country want her to be the Dem nominee.
Fun to see all the Obama supporters going after all the Edwards supporters and vying for "their" candidate to become the "anti-Hillary" candidate. What a stupid little power struggle. It is equally fun to see some of you insisting that it's time to stop bashing each other's candidates and work together to destroy Hillary.
Now there's an oxymoron! This is the reason the netroots can't put forth a winning candidate. You just don't realize that you behave like those folks on littlegreenfootballs.com
You are supporting candidates who don't even know how to fight the Republicans! John Edwards should have bashed the crap out of that looney who insisted his bloggers be fired. What a lost opportunity for Edwards! He was to afraid to lose votes. Obama has yet to lash into Bush and his thugs. Obama just wants everyone to play nice. He is choosing instead to lash into Hillary. And he will pay the price.
At some point, don't you Hillary haters ever stop and say "What's wrong with this picture?"
No offense intended, of course -- but it just gets more and more amusing around here.
I agree with francislholland on every point. It will be a landslide victory for Hillary Clinton and as many predict, she will likely choose Barack Obama as her running mate. Hillary has three decades of political experience; is a well-known, and loved, international figure and she is confident, poised, and ready for this next stage of her life. I support her 100% and wish her all the best in the months ahead.
Barack Obama is a lovely man and extremely gifted as well; but it is not quite his time to hold the most important position in the country, if not the world.
Thank you francislholland for this great discussion and may it not turn into a negative discussion. The Republicans are watching their power slip away and will stage their final battle, to keep the WhiteHouse, with all the fury and hatred known to man. Hillary Clinton is the only candidate we have who can fight back and win.
She is ready for it.
At this moment in time, there isn't a stronger voice than that of Hillary Clinton, who is now polling at over 60% in national Democratic polls. Unless you haven't been paying attention, there is also no Dem candidate who bashes and trashes and confronts Bush and the Repubs more than Hillary does. In another blog discussion, someone suggested that Clinton should have run to the defense of Edwards last week when the Marcotte story broke.
Hillary Clinton owes the netroots community nothing. Stop trashing her 24/7, and she might join your fight against the rightwing conspiracy that she was correct in identifying all those years ago. John Edwards will not make it. Obama has a chance of maintaining second place and smarter people than all of us predict he will be Hillary's choice for V.P.,if he wants it.
That is your power nucleus - Clinton and Obama. And when Hillary is 70 years of age, in 2016, she will hand the reins to Obama. Hillary is the path and while you may run one straw poll after another to try and prove this is not so, it is the reality. Some people say the Hillary/Barack combination is a fantasy; others call it the stuff of novels. But those who cannot move past their own purist expectations, will never stop it. A woman and a black man are about to recreate American history for the good of everyone. You can get behind it or sit back analyzing your straw polls while bitching about Hillary's war vote apology not suiting your demands and writing one sad story after another about those nasty Repubicans who won't leave your chosen candidate alone.
"It is an endless, non-stop stream of attacks against Kerry, Pelosi, Obama, Edwards and any other Democrat in the spotlight."
Mr. Bowers,
How do you feel about the non-stop stream of attacks against Hillary Clinton, by the Republicans and by many Dem bloggers right here on mydd.com, as well as on dailykos and by Arianna Huffington and others.
Are you bothered by the attacks on Hillary Clinton? Or do such attacks remain undefended by you because the victim is Hillary?
Hillary Clinton's supporters accept her stance on her Iraq vote. You pick one guy from the audience in N.H. and make his question a major news item? Hillary explained that she did not vote to give Bush pre-emptive authority to attack Iraq and this is backed up completely by the speech she gave on the Senate floor "before" she voted yes. Hillary's campaign has just begun and expect to hear more about what she actually voted for and expect her extreme criticism of Bush to continue.
This continued idiotic demand that Hillary fall at the feet of the netroots Dems and say exactly what is demanded of her is redundant and the Matt Stollers of the world would love nothing more to get her to comply so they can then say "Too late!" As if Stoller would ever jump over to Hillary's side anyway. Give me a break.
Support whoever you like. Stop trashing Hillary. It's pathetic. You sure as heck get your noses out of joint when anyone questions John Edwards or Barack Obama, or when anyone publishes anything about them that isn't 100% positive. Barack Obama - zero foreign policy experience. John Edwards - already has three or four faux-scandals haunting him. No, they were not deserved but it makes you question his judgment and the wisdom of his strategy team.
"First, he(Edwards) has the same experience as Hillary does now, like her having completed a single term in the senate. Of course, in '08 she will have an additional two years, but that's almost like splitting hairs. One or two more terms, now that's different."
Correction: Hillary Clinton has spent 35 years in politics - and has the record to show for it. You cannot discount the work she did as First Lady for 12 years in Arkansas and for 8 years in the Whitehouse, especially regarding educational programs and work for children, both in the U.S. and around the world. It all counts.
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Glad to see the fringe majority split about evenly for Edwards and Obama. Great news for Hillary.
I recommend everyone read this article about Hillary Clinton:
http://mediamatters.org/items/2007021300 05
http://mediamatters.org/items/2007021300 05
The polls coming out now cannot be attributed to "name recognition" when it comes to Hillary Clinton, unless you are inferring that Barack Obama and John Edwards do not have name recognition. They all do. The country has had ample opportunity to get to know all three top tier candidates. Edwards ran for President; then for Vice-President, and he's been on every talk show on television in the weeks leading up to and in the weeks following his official announcement. Barack has been given the pop coverage of a superstar.
No, these polls are a reflection of the electorate's preferences.
Below is the url to Sen. Clinton's website where you can access the video, in it's entirety, as well as the full transcript.
http://clinton.senate.gov/news/statement s/details.cfm?id=269287&&
Bravo Senator Clinton!
You are going to find pockets of Hillary haters wherever you go in the country and certain areas of the U.S. will cough up more of them than others.
In reality though, Hillary Clinton has never NOT been at the top of every single poll conducted over the past few years. Heck, she was coming in first in 2004 polls, even though she was never a candidate for Pres. in 2004.
A new Harris Interactive poll published today has her with an even wider lead over Obama and Edwards. What does this mean? It means that MOST Democrats in the country want her to be the Dem nominee.
Fun to see all the Obama supporters going after all the Edwards supporters and vying for "their" candidate to become the "anti-Hillary" candidate. What a stupid little power struggle. It is equally fun to see some of you insisting that it's time to stop bashing each other's candidates and work together to destroy Hillary.
Now there's an oxymoron! This is the reason the netroots can't put forth a winning candidate. You just don't realize that you behave like those folks on littlegreenfootballs.com
You are supporting candidates who don't even know how to fight the Republicans! John Edwards should have bashed the crap out of that looney who insisted his bloggers be fired. What a lost opportunity for Edwards! He was to afraid to lose votes. Obama has yet to lash into Bush and his thugs. Obama just wants everyone to play nice. He is choosing instead to lash into Hillary. And he will pay the price.
At some point, don't you Hillary haters ever stop and say "What's wrong with this picture?"
No offense intended, of course -- but it just gets more and more amusing around here.
It is great to see Hillary's favorable rating at almost 60 and her unfavorable rating at 40. It used to be a 50/50 split. Bravo Hillary.
I agree with francislholland on every point. It will be a landslide victory for Hillary Clinton and as many predict, she will likely choose Barack Obama as her running mate. Hillary has three decades of political experience; is a well-known, and loved, international figure and she is confident, poised, and ready for this next stage of her life. I support her 100% and wish her all the best in the months ahead.
Barack Obama is a lovely man and extremely gifted as well; but it is not quite his time to hold the most important position in the country, if not the world.
Thank you francislholland for this great discussion and may it not turn into a negative discussion. The Republicans are watching their power slip away and will stage their final battle, to keep the WhiteHouse, with all the fury and hatred known to man. Hillary Clinton is the only candidate we have who can fight back and win.
She is ready for it.
At this moment in time, there isn't a stronger voice than that of Hillary Clinton, who is now polling at over 60% in national Democratic polls. Unless you haven't been paying attention, there is also no Dem candidate who bashes and trashes and confronts Bush and the Repubs more than Hillary does. In another blog discussion, someone suggested that Clinton should have run to the defense of Edwards last week when the Marcotte story broke.
Hillary Clinton owes the netroots community nothing. Stop trashing her 24/7, and she might join your fight against the rightwing conspiracy that she was correct in identifying all those years ago. John Edwards will not make it. Obama has a chance of maintaining second place and smarter people than all of us predict he will be Hillary's choice for V.P.,if he wants it.
That is your power nucleus - Clinton and Obama. And when Hillary is 70 years of age, in 2016, she will hand the reins to Obama. Hillary is the path and while you may run one straw poll after another to try and prove this is not so, it is the reality. Some people say the Hillary/Barack combination is a fantasy; others call it the stuff of novels. But those who cannot move past their own purist expectations, will never stop it. A woman and a black man are about to recreate American history for the good of everyone. You can get behind it or sit back analyzing your straw polls while bitching about Hillary's war vote apology not suiting your demands and writing one sad story after another about those nasty Repubicans who won't leave your chosen candidate alone.
"It is an endless, non-stop stream of attacks against Kerry, Pelosi, Obama, Edwards and any other Democrat in the spotlight."
Mr. Bowers,
How do you feel about the non-stop stream of attacks against Hillary Clinton, by the Republicans and by many Dem bloggers right here on mydd.com, as well as on dailykos and by Arianna Huffington and others.
Are you bothered by the attacks on Hillary Clinton? Or do such attacks remain undefended by you because the victim is Hillary?
Don't fall all over yourself to answer.
Hillary Clinton is too political? LOL
That's a good one.
Hillary Clinton's supporters accept her stance on her Iraq vote. You pick one guy from the audience in N.H. and make his question a major news item? Hillary explained that she did not vote to give Bush pre-emptive authority to attack Iraq and this is backed up completely by the speech she gave on the Senate floor "before" she voted yes. Hillary's campaign has just begun and expect to hear more about what she actually voted for and expect her extreme criticism of Bush to continue.
This continued idiotic demand that Hillary fall at the feet of the netroots Dems and say exactly what is demanded of her is redundant and the Matt Stollers of the world would love nothing more to get her to comply so they can then say "Too late!" As if Stoller would ever jump over to Hillary's side anyway. Give me a break.
Support whoever you like. Stop trashing Hillary. It's pathetic. You sure as heck get your noses out of joint when anyone questions John Edwards or Barack Obama, or when anyone publishes anything about them that isn't 100% positive. Barack Obama - zero foreign policy experience. John Edwards - already has three or four faux-scandals haunting him. No, they were not deserved but it makes you question his judgment and the wisdom of his strategy team.
"First, he(Edwards) has the same experience as Hillary does now, like her having completed a single term in the senate. Of course, in '08 she will have an additional two years, but that's almost like splitting hairs. One or two more terms, now that's different."
Correction: Hillary Clinton has spent 35 years in politics - and has the record to show for it. You cannot discount the work she did as First Lady for 12 years in Arkansas and for 8 years in the Whitehouse, especially regarding educational programs and work for children, both in the U.S. and around the world. It all counts.