Hillary the Credulous?

Cross-posted at the Francis L. Holland Blog.

Most of the public (including myself) believed that Hillary Clinton was qualified to be president, according to polls, so I can't imagine that they will oppose her nomination for secretary of state. If she could have been commander in chief, there's no reason not to put her in charge of the nation's diplomacy.

Yes, Hillary engaged in color-aroused politics during the primaries, which caused me to oppose her presidential candidacy.  Now, I'm in a forgiving mood with respect to Hillary, if only because she did a lot to help get Obama elected, and she didn't do any of the many outrageous things she COULD have done to PREVENT President Obama from being elected, once his nomination was secured.

I'll tell you one thing, though: I don't accept her excuse for voting for the war in Iraq and I will not accept any future excuse that "I went along with a treacherous policy/invasion because the CIA told me it was a good idea."

If Hillary's got any Bay of Pigs invasions in her future, then she should step down and not accept the nomination for secretary of state.

I am going to assume that Hillary is at least as smart as I am, so I will expect her to be at least as incredulous and skeptical as I would be under similar circumstances. Obviously, there are some people working in agencies within the US Government whose word should NEVER, EVER be taken at face value. Hillary must know that, and she must behave at all times like she knows that.

With Bill Richardson as a very compelling alternative for the nomination, Hillary will have to work hard to validate the decision to nominate her instead of Gov. Bill Richardson.  Hillary should not be nominated, and should not accept the nomination if it is offered, unless she plans to be at least as incredulous as the most informed members of the general public.  No one should be secretary of state unless their overarching goal is to help achieve and maintain peace and prosperity.

As the anti-Vietnam war song said, "I get down on my knees and pray: We won't be fooled again!" Clearly, anyone who advocates military action in the future should be looked upon with greater skepticism than has been the case in the past, and their burden of proof should be very high - much higher.

With that enormously important caveat, I think Hillary would make a great secretary of state and we would all be proud of her and of the Obama Administration.  

Tags: Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton (all tags)



Re: Hillary the Credulous?

she didn't say that. She said there was enough info to want more (sounds Obamian?), and she voted to get the inspectors in there to find out.  Her credulousness if there was any was in thinking that Bush would be stopped from bombing if the inspectors didn't find proof.  But Barack is also saying, negotiate with this administration, he's also giving Bush the respect of being the president, and not speaking out against his foreign policy (although I expect he isn't credulous either).  

by anna shane 2008-11-21 02:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary the Credulous?

Your point is well taken but please remember, Obama will be the "decider", not Clinton.

by fireman 2008-11-21 02:55PM | 0 recs
you know what they say about people...

who assume...  

and while this is riveting commentary - its a bit late colour arouser ;)

by canadian gal 2008-11-21 02:55PM | 0 recs
WOW, I hope she is a lot more

intelligent than you are.
Your absolutist view is silly; your need to set this up as "Blame Hillary" even before she gets to do her job, is ridiculous.

The "Bay of Pigs" has always been a part of Kennedy's administration. I have never heard anyone blaming his SoS.  And the Obama kids still can't get how it works.

And NO SIR she did not use color to hurt Obama.  So please stop spreading hateful lies.

by Jjc2008 2008-11-21 03:15PM | 0 recs
Re: WOW, I hope she is a lot more

thanks for making that point.  She surely did not. And if anyone has read the so-called expose about her 'dysfunctional' campaign in the Atlantic Monthly can attest, she made it clear to her staff that there could be not attempt to smear Barack or say anything that might be used against him if he won the nomination.  I'm not sure Barack knew that during the campaign, but I'm very sure he knows it now.  

by anna shane 2008-11-21 03:36PM | 0 recs
Don't worry

Obama will set the policy.  Hillary will be one voice that he considers.  There were going to be many people advising him who supported the Iraq war under any circumstances.  Those who supported Obama b/c of his opposition to Iraq should trust that, just as in 2002, he will not be swayed by bad hawkish arguments.

by JJE 2008-11-21 04:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary the Credulous?

Your point in a previous diary that she voted for AUMF for political jockeying - that was libelous, thus my very strong reaction to your statement in your last diary.  I do apologize for the manner in which my opinion was delivered, but I don't take kindly to outrageous assumptions, to characterize it lightly.  

No excuse for my behavior and no excuse for your libel.  You cannot say things like that unless you have proof, otherwise label it as such - that it is your baseless opinion and not that you are reporting a fact.

by KLRinLA 2008-11-21 04:36PM | 0 recs


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