At MyDD - When it Comes to Obama - Dissent is Not Allowed!

How interesting!  I wrote a post about Matt Taibbi's RS critique of Obama which included my own opinions on how Obama had shown through his primary run that he would be beholden to the economic vested interests...I responded in the comments to the varied attacks and guess what?   All of my comments were removed!

Seems free speech still isnt allowed on the blogs by Obamaists!

Too bad for all of us Democrats that those who will never visit a blog still have the right to vote huh?  (Bet these censors would luv to take that right away too!)

Censorship is censorship, even if you delude yourself and call it something else. (Oh those durty PUMA trolls!)

I have an idea! Ill just add all my comments to the post itself and then the hypocrisy of the self appointed censors cant win! Plus -I'll just write new posts instead of comments! You see - free speech can never be stopped - by either right wing thugs or even nerdy net fascists!

The power of the censor must truly empower these failed and powerless men. They cannot be shamed for their hypocrisy, they revel in their ability to bully. Im sure it must make up for the complete and utter lack of impact they have on the real world at large. (RIGHT!)

I suggest you fans get off the net and see the response to obama and prepare yourself for the drubbing we will be taking in 11 months.

Im helping a Dem freshman congressman in the bluest of eastern states where Obama now polls in the 30s. Believe me, we will be running as far from as possible and our opponent will tru to wrap obama ALL around us. Its simple, if theyre successful at connecting us to obama with the electorate - we'll lose. Huge

Nationwide look at this - lets first consider the Gallup poll.

Obama officials have not always shown disdain for Gallup. During last year's presidential campaign, Obama adviser David Plouffe, trumpeted "the latest Gallup poll" to reporters because it showed that 53 percent of Americans did not find Obama Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton, "trustworthy." But boy are they attacking them now! (crayons - six year olds - tee hee!)

The past 11 presidents, both Democrats and Republicans, all had higher job approval ratings than Obama at this stage of their tenure. Their ratings were:

-- George W. Bush, 86 percent
-- Bill Clinton, 52 percent
-- George H.W. Bush, 71 percent
-- Ronald Reagan, 49 percent
-- Jimmy Carter, 57 percent
-- Gerald Ford, 52 percent
-- Richard Nixon, 59 percent
-- Lyndon Johnson, 74 percent
-- John Kennedy, 77 percent
-- Dwight Eisenhower, 69 percent
-- Harry Truman, 49 percent


But Gallup is just the latest polling company to show Obams massive slide. Across the board Obama is at or below 50.

Poll    Date    Sample    Approve     Disapprove     Spread
RCP Average    12/1 - 12/13    --    48.3    45.4    +2.9
Rasmussen Reports    12/11 - 12/13    1500 LV    44    55    -11
Gallup    12/10 - 12/12    1547 A    48    43    +5
FOX News    12/8 - 12/9    900 RV    50    44    +6
CBS News/NY Times    12/4 - 12/8    1031 A    50    39    +11
Bloomberg    12/3 - 12/7    1000 A    54    41    +13
Marist    12/2 - 12/7    858 RV    46    44    +2
Ipsos/McClatchy    12/3 - 12/6    1120 A    49    49    Tie
Quinnipiac    12/1 - 12/6    2313 RV    46    44    +2
CNN/Opinion Research    12/2 - 12/3    1041 A    48    50    -2


Pretending that this isnt hapening wont help us and censoring reality and silencing debate is so Karl Rove like -

the sheer hypocrisy of the Oboma diehard is just amazing.

And by the way, we've lost indie voters in numbers that are staggering...arrogance and hypocrisy wont win them back you know...

I say lets start to consider a back up candidate because after the midterms - even the most rabid Obot wont be able to disappear the enormity of his failure.

(btw - Obama gives his performance a B plus to A minus grade on Oprah.  Irs obvious this guy has gotten quite used to a lifetine of being graded on a friendly curve no?  Sorry my Congressman cant afford to follow such delusions!)

Tags: obama fraud (all tags)



PUMA bullshit

The reason all your comments were removed is that you aren't here to dissent, you're here to stir up PUMA bullshit. We call this trolling.

by ND22 2009-12-14 08:11AM | 0 recs

and on blogs, trolls are censored, that's why we have a troll rating. Get used to it.

by ND22 2009-12-14 08:16AM | 0 recs
I see no political point of view in your posts

by ND22 2009-12-14 02:19PM | 0 recs
oh sure you can

by Strummerson 2009-12-21 06:51PM | 0 recs
go ahead, no one else is gonna read them

except maybe tarheel or whatever sockpuppet you come back as.

by ND22 2009-12-14 08:30AM | 0 recs
of course not

it's like that crazy man on the corner who screams random shit, you know you should just roll your eyes and walk away, but you can't help but stay there and laugh cause it's so absurd.

by ND22 2009-12-14 02:23PM | 0 recs
Yes that right

when all else fails, cry to Jerome for help.

by ND22 2009-12-14 08:50AM | 0 recs
I have rated these as 2

because I do not think it (and other comments like it) deserve a 0.

Kinda annoying, actually, to have to uprate such mindless drivel!!

by Ravi Verma 2009-12-14 09:37AM | 0 recs
I am sorry

I can unhide, but I do not have the capacity to engage mindless drivel!!

by Ravi Verma 2009-12-14 12:50PM | 0 recs
Good Grief!

Since does censorship mean disagreeing. Is anybody blacking out your words? Are you not still able to post and comment? There for you are not being censored.

Now if you are just whining because some disagree with you and some troll rate you grow a pair or find someplace to post where everybody agrees with your positions and opinions.

by jsfox 2009-12-14 08:50AM | 0 recs
Re: Good Grief!

And I should learn to proof read before hitting post. ugh

by jsfox 2009-12-14 08:52AM | 0 recs
Re: every comment ive written has been removed

I see all 11 comments. If you don
't see them it is because you are not a trusted user of the MYDD

From the facts:

* 'Trusted users' are those users that have 'mojo' and are able to 'review hidden comments' and can rate any of those posts hidden by a '0' ranking. If a trusted user deems the post should not be hidden, they can 'rescue' the post with a '1' rating.

by jsfox 2009-12-14 09:02AM | 0 recs
What part of

trusted user do you not get? How am I feeding you BS if I quote site guidelines? You have an issue with these take them up with the Admin.

Now as to your comments being hide rated life's tough especially on the blogs. Obviously you are rubbing some the wrong way. This includes me. I just choose not to hide rate you.  

And let's get serious for a moment you come on and the post an "I told you so diary." always a winning strategy if you are looking to ignite the primary wars all over again and now this piece of drivel.

And if you don't think disagreeing with Obama is not allowed here you haven't been paying much attention. It has become a progressive sport. However, you want someplace where everybody will agree head on over to FDL,  Alegre's Corner hell even DKos has become a dump on Obama site.

by jsfox 2009-12-14 09:47AM | 0 recs
Re: btw i will never even vist kos


You only have to hang on for a couple more years than you can go to work finding someone to primary Obama. Hope they win and don't fracture the party so badly  as to loose the general and put the R's back in power.

But what the hell at least we could all go back to having a common enemy.

by jsfox 2009-12-14 10:09AM | 0 recs
Re: thats my right

Umm since you don't know me from Adam please do not toss accusations my way.

by jsfox 2009-12-14 10:30AM | 0 recs
They obviously do have an effect on you

since you're writing Jerome in protest after being here only a day.

by ND22 2009-12-14 09:09AM | 0 recs
planet earth to j fox

Yes, censorship means disappearing someone's words. Duh. Even if he is still able to comment and get his words disappeared again.

by fairleft2 2009-12-16 02:37AM | 0 recs
We shall overcome!

Truly your struggle against hide-ratings makes Gandhi look like a piker.

by JJE 2009-12-14 09:39AM | 0 recs
Re: and tour ability

I you had been around here a bit longer, you'd know that JJE is not Bushean.  JJE is a McCarthyist Inquisitor.  No kidding.  This dastardly electronic Torquemada once put me on a virtual rack.  JJE engages in virtual waterboarding and hates Jews and women and kittens.  Censorship is the least of it I tell you, the least of it.  As a matter of fact, JJE blackmailed Mark Penn into totally mismanaging HRC's primary strategy.  It's the only explanation I can invent for that sad string of blunders.  JJE is...ugh....arasd;lk....hlp....PLSSSSSSS ...

by Strummerson 2009-12-14 10:26AM | 0 recs
Re: Mark penn didnt destroy hillarys campaign

Fairy tales.  If Mark Penn had devised a strategy that showed familiarity with the most basic rules of primaries, it would have been virtually impossible for Obama to win.  Go on repeating the approved village conspiracy theory of the Confluence and Alegres anti-free speech zone.  I hope they give you comfort at night.  That's what fairy tales are supposed to do.

by Strummerson 2009-12-14 03:14PM | 0 recs
Re: holy cow!

You repeat the entire script of deranged and degraded PUMA imbeciles without missing a single cliche!!!

oh boy - the irony.

by Strummerson 2009-12-15 03:06PM | 0 recs
No tour ability here

I'm no longer huge in Japan so I haven't toured since the late 90s.

by JJE 2009-12-14 12:07PM | 0 recs
golf clap

Thanks for the good laughs on my lunch break.  I would tell your Drama teacher that you deserve a B-, mainly because you're laying it on too thick.

Otherwise, I can almost "feel" your struggle with the tremenduous adversity you've faced on this fascist blog.  How dare they, sir! How Dare they hide the truth!

by KLRinLA 2009-12-14 10:19AM | 0 recs
This is but a bump in the road.

by thatrangeofshadesbetweenredandbluestuff 2009-12-14 10:54AM | 0 recs
Saints are sinners who kept on going.

by thatrangeofshadesbetweenredandbluestuff 2009-12-14 11:02AM | 0 recs
All right

I uprated all your posts, because I honestly couldn't find any of them that deserved to be hide-rated.  Although the one where you said "I love Jerome" was close.

Now, maybe someone will go back and hide them all again.  Personally, I don't agree with the style of "moderation" that goes like "I want this person off the site, so I'm going to hide all their posts." Too much like the orange place for my taste.

That said, quit being such a fucking drama queen already.  I used to enjoy your posts a lot back in the day, now you're just ranting to no real end.  Honestly, if you want to just be a brutal truthteller without caring whether anyone is persuaded by your posts or not... then who really cares if they get hidden?

by Steve M 2009-12-14 05:03PM | 0 recs
Re: All right

I love Jerome too.  His posts are very pretty.  

But seriously, I agree with you to a large degree.  Though the one thing that makes such tactics at least understandable in my eyes is the bald and blatant hypocrisy of PUMAs crying "free speech." Try offering a different perspective over at Alegres or the Confluence.  These shmucks thought police their little club houses with a vengeance and them come here, a site where a range of opinions actually continues to be expressed, and make themselves out to be the glorious and steadfast victims fascist aggression.

But again, you are absolutely right that we should not sink to this level of downrating people just because we disagree with either content or form of rhetoric.  The guidelines should suffice.

by Strummerson 2009-12-14 05:41PM | 0 recs
Re: All right

I can only imagine how the inmates choose to run their asylum, but nevertheless I prefer the sunlight out here.

by Steve M 2009-12-14 06:50PM | 0 recs
Did I miss something? Ludwigvan had posted

two diaries till did you enjoy his posts a lot back in the day? Is Ludwigvan a reincarnate (sockpuppet) of some lost soul that we used to find here before?

by louisprandtl 2009-12-14 05:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Did I miss something? Ludwigvan had posted

Some styles are unmistakable!

by Steve M 2009-12-14 06:49PM | 0 recs
Re: At MyDD - When it Comes to Obama - Dissent is

Your diary refutes itself.

by Reaper0Bot0 2009-12-14 05:47PM | 0 recs
Regan was at 49% and Obama is at 48.4%

Oh the horrors. Coincidentally, both were struggling with deep recessions. Carry on.

by NoFortunateSon 2009-12-14 08:04PM | 0 recs
Re: At MyDD - When it Comes to Obama - Dissent is

its been a while since i have been to this site. jerome and whomever else is handling the administration of the site.... this diary is a fine example of why this mydd is circling the drain.

by canadian gal 2009-12-16 05:17PM | 0 recs


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