Ed Schulz's HRC Rant: "I'm done with the Clintons!"

I stopped listening to Ed Schulz about 2 months ago. I felt his comments regarding HRC were very biased and his comments regarding JRE and BO extremely accommodating.  I sent several emails expressing my displeasure about the show. I vowed that I would never listen again. However, today I decided to listen. Today was one of the most disgusting rants that I've heard to date.  

Here is the transcript of Schultz talking to a Phoenix caller, Carl. Carl said he was an undecided voter and hadn't made a decision on whom to vote.  Except with the caller here.

Schulz:

You hit the nail on the head my friend when you said that I'm not real happy with Hillary Clinton for not coming on this program. You are not embarrassing me. You are exactly right. And if you will notice a couple of things, I do not put surrogates on this program. I want the candidates. Barack Obama was on yesterday and John Edwards will be on tomorrow. Chris Dodd has been on repeatedly, I bet John Edwards has been on this program 15 times this year. We've had Richardson on, Kucinich in studio and on repeatedly, who benefits?

Let me point out that HRC has been on Ed's show 3 times this year, most recently in September. If this sounds disingenuous, you haven't read anything yet.

Schulz goes on to say:

We all have our issues, and something is really strange here. Does Hillary Clinton think that I am going to nail her? Does she think that this is some kind of torpedo thing or something? Every time the Bush white house gets in trouble they don't run, they sprint with a stopwatch to fox news.

"Every time the Bush white house gets in trouble they don't run..."? I've heard many say that Ed is a Right-wing plant. I've never thought that, but this comment is telling.

This is part of the fight of the culture of media access. And I am down on Biden and I am down on Hillary Clinton and I am not going to hide it. They are not helping Hartman out, they are not helping Rhodes out, they are not helping Stephanie Miller. I called Woody the other day and I asked `woody when was the last time that Hillary Clinton was on Bill Press show' `oh about 2 years ago.' That tells me that number one you don't give a dam, or you are afraid to talk to the base or you are afraid of the questions. You know what Hillary if you are afraid of the questions, if you are afraid of it Biden, I don't want you to be president of the United States.

Now Hillary has been called many things, but "afraid" isn't one of them.  

Schulz:

I carried more water for John Kerry than anybody on the radio in this country, day after day after day. I wanted Kerry to be the president of the United States. The listeners of this show wanted Kerry to be the president of the United States. Here I am fighting this battle. I'll give any of these candidates; don't give me your surrogates.

I listened to Ed many times during the 2004 Presidential cycle. I clearly remember Ed bad mouthing Kerry.

Carl:

Ok then why do you keep all these people that call your show Ed keep saying the same thing, it's not against the law to take money from these people that you guys don't want her to take money from. None of the candidates anybody can take the money from those people. I don't care if it is special interests or whatever, but you guys keep whining about her taking money from...

Schulz:

We give them a microphone and they don't even freaking use it. I am done with the Clintons. I'm done with the cheap shots. I'm done with the innuendos. I'm done with the blaming it on the Des Moines Register. Hillary I do not want you to be the nominee. Biden I do not want you to be the nominee. I'm taking a stand here and I am being self serving. Just like there are Americans out there being self serving about health care. Just like there are Americans out there being self serving about tax cuts or faith and politics. I can't believe that Barack Obama can call me yesterday from his bus just on a whim after we asked about it maybe an hour beforehand `hey we'd like to get you on talking about what the former president said about your experience.' `yea we'll make it happen.' Boom.

Schulz:

Carl you're a plant, you are not a core democrat. You're a plant and you know it, yes you are. Since I took the floor I am going to give you the final comment in fairness but I believe that you are a Clinton plant but go ahead

Carl:

I absolutely am not a Clinton plant and absolutely am not a full fledged Hillary supporter. I still have not made up my mind who I am voting for Ed. That is not a fair statement. You go on for almost 25 minutes, granted it is your show.

Something is fishy here. The thing that is puzzling to me is that Ed has ranted frequently about HRC. I noticed that the same day of the rant, Chris Matthews asks him on his show to "discuss" HRC.  Ed has mentioned many times in the past that he wants his own show.  Is Ed willing to take down HRC in the process? I was a HUGE Ed Schulz, but now I have no respect for him. What's Ed's beef with the Clintons?  If someone knows the answer, please enlighten me.

Tags: Chris Matthews, Ed Schulz, Hillary Clinton, MSNBC, Radio (all tags)

Comments

40 Comments

Re: Ed Schulz's HRC Rant: "

I first met that guy around 2002.  He is a total nutjob egomaniac.

of course Matthews will have him on to bash the Clintons.

Nuff aaid.

by Seymour Glass 2007-12-19 05:58PM | 0 recs
Re: Ed Schulz's HRC Rant: "

I've never met Ed. I used to love his show. I am shocked at his display.

by lonnette33 2007-12-20 04:04AM | 0 recs
I'm done with the Clint

Everybody wants to be king/queen maker.  One thing I've learned to do is take all source of media (blogs included) with a grain of salt.

by Kingstongirl 2007-12-19 05:58PM | 0 recs
Re: Ed Schulz's HRC Rant: "

I love listening to Ed...He's great and is very fair to all candidate....If you have a problem with Ed , then something is wrong with your brain.

by Prodigy 2007-12-19 06:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Ed Schulz's HRC Rant: "

If you had a ounce of honesty in your blood you would be not sell bullshit in regards to Ed's rant. Right is right and wrong and wrong. I know the difference, obviously you do not. I have no time for people like you. I don't like liars, wannabes or fakers. I don't respect you. I never have and I never will. There are some decent BO and JRE supporter. However, you are not one of them.

by lonnette33 2007-12-20 03:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Ed Schulz's HRC Rant:

I can tell you as an Obama supporter I felt early on that Ed was a Clinton supporter and was quite unfair about Obama.  I haven't heard him in a while, but if things have changed it certainly isn't out of an anti-Clinton bias.  If he's turned on her, it has happened the old fashioned way.  She's earned it.

by Piuma 2007-12-19 06:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Ed Schulz's HRC Rant:

In the beginning, Ed was very pro Hillary and somewhat ambivalent towards Obama and Edwards.  I've listened to him everyday for the past two years and he has changed his tone considerably.

i think he would most likely admit his dream ticket today would be Edwards/Obama 08

by Its Like Herding Cats 2007-12-19 06:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Ed Schulz's HRC Rant:

This simply isn't true.  I've listened to Ed for more than 2 years also, and you can't credibly say he was pro-Hillary and ambivalent towards Obama and Edwards. Earlier this year he was pretty non-committal about all of them.  He said good things about Hillary's health care plan, but at the same time he was saying good things about Edwards and Obama too.

His issue with Hillary Clinton (as he admitted in his rant) is that she doesn't appear on his show enough.  He said it himself.  That's why he rants and bitches about her everyday, with very little concern for the facts.  Ed is an ego case and feels slighted because he doesn't get enough attention from prominent Democrats.  He complains constantly that he can't get Harry Reid, Pelosi, Kennedy, etc on his show, and he attacks them for that, not because he disagrees with them.

Ed Schultz is a PINO, and his views on immigration are perilously close to Lou Dobbs for my tastes.

by Denny Crane 2007-12-19 07:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Ed Schulz's HRC Rant:

Indeed I can and do say with much credibility that Ed was very pro Hillary.  

I personally called his show slightly more than a year and a half ago and called him on his support of Hillary for what seemed to me to be rather weak arguments and unfamiliarity with some of her political calculations.

He, as he does with everyone, let me speak my peace then vehemently disagreed with me and continued with his theme that she was the most qualified and deserved the nomination.  He regularly stated he would vote for any democrat who gained the nomination, but believed that Hillary was the most qualified and would make the best candidate.

His evolution has been a long trek fueled along the way by the numerous missteps of the Clinton campaign staff, surrogates and surprisingly Bill himself.

Hillary's stubborn albeit recent refusal to appear on his show is stupid and petty.  Two million ears and she won't address them because of Ed's refusal  to play the game by her rules.  He really does not like to have to submit questions beforehand to be vetted by her subordinates, nor should he, or any journalist/talk show host, have to do so.  

No candidate has presented him with this  price of an interview except for Hillary and Biden.  And the old phrase cutting off your nose to spite your face comes to mind when I think about this refusal.

by Its Like Herding Cats 2007-12-19 10:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Ed Schulz's HRC Rant:

We'll have to agree to disagree. I think Schultz is a true ego case in that he thinks that the candidates and other leading Dems have some responsibility to come on his show because he's "Big Ed".  His tantrums are entirely self serving, as he has said himself.  In fact, he seems to be rather proud of it.

That's among the stupidest reason for not supporting a candidate I've heard, and I'm glad that Schultz is getting flack from other radio host and columnists for his behavior. He even accused the caller of being a Clinton plant, for Pete's sake.  Because of course, no reasonable person could possibly disagree with the great Ed.

I truly don't recall Ed SChultz ever saying he though Hillary was the most qualified candidate, ever, but I could be wrong on that.  Nor have I heard that she and Biden wanted questions submitted in advance - is that in print somewhere?

by Denny Crane 2007-12-20 05:15AM | 0 recs
Re: Ed Schulz's HRC Rant:

Ed said on the air that both Clinton and Biden campaign staff asked for questions in advance before any interview would be granted.

Personally I have not heard a single voice from other broadcasters or journalists calling Ed out on this issue, there may be some and if you care to provide links, I'd be be very interested in hearing or reading about them.

Ultimately i agree with Ed.  Our candidates DO have a responsibility to appear on his show and others shows like his.  Their voices need to be heard by all people, especially our base.  I don't want elections to turn into 30 sec sound bites from TV advertising and candidates being elected because they can pay for the most ads.

by Its Like Herding Cats 2007-12-20 08:26AM | 0 recs
Re: Ed Schulz's HRC Rant:

i am the furthest from being a HRC supporter; however, imho Ed Schultz doesn't have a progressive bone in his body ... i suspect any problem he has with hilary is related to feeling slighted by her and nothing related to substance.    Just my opinion of course but i think he's a complete ego-centric fraud.

by JoelK in AZ 2007-12-19 07:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Ed Schultz-asshat

I was going to write a diary on this, but you've done a much better job than I could have.  I listen to talk radio every day during the week, and I used to listen to Ed Schultz every day at noon (Since XM refuses to broadcast Thom Hartmann, which irritates me).  I first noticed he was doing more and more Clinton bashing about two months ago, and it's been getting more frequent and less meaningful ever since.

He's gotten a lot of flack from his listeners about it, but he just keeps going.  At first he claimed he had some substantive issues with the way her campaign was being run, which is of course fair game. But as I listened, I noticed him cherry picking any bad news that came out and using that an excuse to start his daily bashing.  I called his show several times (never got through) and sent him several emails, but to no avail.  I finally turned him off completely a few weeks ago when he was breathlessly reciting that "new" poll (which got diaried here) that showed Obama 15 points ahead of Hillary in SC or whatever it was.  That poll actually turned out to be six months old IIRC, and by the time Schultz went on the air, it had already been debunked the previous day, and he should have known that.  He's a lazy researcher and he frequently gets his facts wrong.

I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as first, but it became abundantly clear that he had some other issue with Hillary Clinton, and now we know what it is.

Poor baby, it's all about him and his fucking ego.  All the candidates must worship at the alter of Ed, and do so whenever he says.

by Denny Crane 2007-12-19 07:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Ed Schultz-asshat

I was a die hard fan. I am very disappointed in Ed. Policy disagreements are fair game. I know that Ed was very upset with the Communication Act passed when the Big Dog was President. However, Ed has taken it to another level. He's out for blood and it's just wrong.

by lonnette33 2007-12-20 04:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Ed Schulz's HRC Rant

Ed made it clear how he got the conclusion that she shouldn't be the nominee. I agree with him, Hillary doesn't deserve the nomination.

by OreoBlue 2007-12-19 07:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Ed Schulz's HRC Rant

With a signature line like that , it sure wasn't a surprise.

If he had said she muredered Vince Foster so she doesn't deserve to be president like the wingnuts you would probably have agreed as well

by lori 2007-12-19 08:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Ed Schulz's HRC Rant

Ed wouldn't go that far and neither would I. Just because he doesn't worship Hillary the way u other dems do, doesn't make him a righty. He just doesn't think she would make the best nominee, that's all.

by OreoBlue 2007-12-19 08:23PM | 0 recs
"you other dems"

thanks that tells me what I need to know.

Ed is pissed that she is not coming on his show, that is all.

by MollieBradford 2007-12-20 04:27AM | 0 recs
Re: "you other dems"

Sounds like it.

I would be if I were him too.

by Bush Bites 2007-12-20 09:40AM | 0 recs
Re: Ed Schulz's HRC R

" I stopped listening to Ed Schulz about 2 months ago. "

 - Who cares what a radio host thinks ?

However I don't know enough about the man to give an opinion of him .

by lori 2007-12-19 07:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Ed Schulz's HRC R

Ed Schulz is supposed to be one of us. I expect this kind of talk from the right, not our side.

Also, Ed is the #1 Progressive talker according to Taker's Magazine. He reaches 3.25 million listeners a day. This rants are very significant and totally wrong to the core.

by lonnette33 2007-12-20 04:11AM | 0 recs
This goes back to the theme we talked about

yesterday,  where the PRESS feels it is entitled to choose our candidates for us.  I am sure that the average voter isn't going to say to themselves "Oh I could never vote for HIllary because she wouldn't go on the Ed Schultz show."

 Yet Ed Schultz thinks that reason alone is enough for him to abuse his responsibility of being a progressive voice in the media.  

This is another example of why the Fairness Doctrine (which Mr. Schultz advocates) would be helpful in restoring some sanity in the media.

by Sandy1938 2007-12-19 08:25PM | 0 recs
Re: This goes back to the theme we talked about

Agreed Sandy. But I feel this is personal for Ed. She's been on his show 3 times this year. What, is she supposed to do jump when Ed wants her on his show? Remember through all this, Ed has been bashing her and she still showed up on his show. There's only so much bashing a person can take. I commend HRC. Screw Ed!

by lonnette33 2007-12-20 04:16AM | 0 recs
I'm done with the Clintons too!

by DerekLarsson 2007-12-19 09:11PM | 0 recs
Hillary and Her Supporters Casting Aside Ed Schulz

If you start from the assumption that Ed Schulz has a large radio audience of at least two million Democrats (which he does) but that you do not ALWAYS agree with Ed Schulz (which certainly applies in my case), it still makes absolutely no sense for Hillary and her supporters to disrespect Schulz.

It is tactically stupid for Hillary to not make some time to appear (via telephone perhaps) on his show at least as regularly as the other candidates.

And it is tactically stupid for her supporters to trash Schulz here tonight.

by Demo37 2007-12-19 10:00PM | 0 recs
Let discuss this...

Disrespect? Ed disrespects HRC every freaking day. If you want to discuss this issue, fine. But don't give me bullshit! Otherwise, get out of my diary.

by lonnette33 2007-12-20 04:18AM | 0 recs
Schulz is a Commentator on Progressive AM

He speaks to a particular audience of Democrats who evidently like his unique perspective on progressive politics in general. Otherwise, 2 million people plus wouldn't tune in.

Hillary's actions in clearly not wanting to appear on his show (and the statements by her supporters in this diary) have made it clear to him that the Hillary camp does not want his show to be successful. In fact, it sounds to me like all of you would like to see his particular show and perspective wither on the vine and go away.  Fair enough.

The excerpts that you have posted in this diary suggest that Schulz has picked up on this "go away and die" message from Hillary. And, not surprisingly, he is upset with that...as would you if you had a show such as his.

I think appearing on his show and "working with him" represents a de minimus burden, and not doing it, is a tactical mistake. He is, after all, a commentator on progressive radio.  But, for whatever reason, Hillary's strategy is to poke him in the eye.  Not smart and not necessary.

by Demo37 2007-12-20 06:46AM | 0 recs
Re: Schulz is a Commentator on Progressive AM

You know I wasn't going to respond to you because your arguement makes no sense and is very week.

HRC has been on his show 3 times this year. Despite the fact he has continued to rant aganist her, as well as disparge her every chance he gets. HRC doesn't have to kiss Ed's ASS in case you didn't know that. HRC isn't obligated to go on his show, but she has in the past. Personally, I hope she never graces the radio airwaves ever again on his show. He made his bed, and now he should lie in it.

Moreover, Ed wouldn't be on the air if hadn't been for HRC and many other DEM Senators.  So lets have come candor here and spare me the billshit. I didn't put that in my diary, because I wanted people like you to digest the diary just by reading his comments (which are ridicous and over the top), nothing more. But sense you want to play games, let me speak the truth.

by lonnette33 2007-12-20 07:36AM | 0 recs
Re: Ed Schulz's HRC Rant:

Big Ed has a mean sound to his voice when he talks about Hillary. That's the thing us Hillary supporters are picking up on. And he doesn't dialog honestly with his phoners-in. Today I heard him roar at a woman that no one could make rules for him, in response to her rather meek suggestion that she'd like it if he aimed his guns at Republicans. He was so over the line that I turned him off, for the same reason I don't listen to the rightwingers rant: it's ugly.

by AM 2007-12-19 11:18PM | 0 recs
Re: Ed Schulz's HRC Rant:

He's been very ugly lately. I don't know what his issue is, but he needs help. What do you bet some of Ed's rants are used by the repugs?  Not only is he trying to damage HRC, but he in turn is damaging our Party.

by lonnette33 2007-12-20 04:20AM | 0 recs
ed the backstabber

hillary aside, ed is such an azzhole. he totally sideswiped howard dean when he came on his show. this was like half a year before the 'o6 midterms. launched unwarranted attacks against dean and inferred he wasn't doing enough to win the election. ed sounded like a crazy man with all of his yelling. and there was zero reason for it.

another thing i'll never forgive about schultz: he championed lieberman during that election. he quoted ned lamont out of context, intentionally misconstruing what lamont had meant. tried to say lamont wasn't really anti war and that he wanted to privatize social security. not true! the next day, i heard dems on my local air america echoing his idiotic talking points, pointing to how subversive ed's influence can be.

ed is big fat liar operating behind an an agenda of his own. he couldn't care less about progressives.

by jello 2007-12-20 01:58AM | 0 recs
Re: ed the backstabber

Agreed jello. I don't know how I was fooled by him. I really used to like his show. While I don't think he is a right-wing plant, I think he damaging our party. We are Progressives and have got to push back on this guy.

by lonnette33 2007-12-20 04:23AM | 0 recs
Schultz is an angry buffoon

He is the typical not that can't comprehend why Harry Reid can't have his way in the Senate.   Ed is too angry and too busy flying off handles to understand the math in the Senate.

As for his being "done" with the Clintons, what a joke.  That crazy man has been against them from the beginning.  

My advice to Ed is relax.  Kick back on your porch drink whatever it is you drink and watch out for UFO's.

by dpANDREWS 2007-12-20 02:45AM | 0 recs
Re: Schultz is an angry buffoon

The think=g is dp, Ed reaches 3.25 Million listeners according to Talker's Magazine every day. Ed has an agenda and it's bad new for us DEMS.

by lonnette33 2007-12-20 04:24AM | 0 recs
Alzheimers or Hardball bookings.

Either Ed is in early stages of Alzheimers or he's just looking for some more Hardball bookings.

by BigBoyBlue 2007-12-20 03:00AM | 0 recs
Re: Alzheimers or Hardball bookings.

I'd settle on the latter. He definitely wants more Hardball bookings. Also, he's after a television pundit show. He's out for blood and HRC is the target.

by lonnette33 2007-12-20 04:26AM | 0 recs
good ole boy

ed has made favorable comments about hillary in the past.

prediction: ed will flip-flop back to supporting her if she agrees to return on his show.

by jello 2007-12-20 03:56AM | 0 recs
Re: good ole boy

Don't think so. This is personal for Ed. We as Progressives need to stand up to this type of bullying. HRC's been on his show 3 times this year, even though Ed has been bashing her on a consistent basis. Now that takes balls. You can only take so much. HRC said "no more". Good for her.

by lonnette33 2007-12-20 04:29AM | 0 recs
Re: good ole boy

I really hope not, then I'll stop listenin' 2 him

by OreoBlue 2007-12-20 04:42AM | 0 recs
Ed Schulz's on Lieberman election

I like his appearances on TV. But I heard he bashed the anti Lieberman voters in 2006. What kind of progressive guy does that?

by Pravin 2007-12-20 05:37AM | 0 recs

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