Stop Distractions with False Accusations, Debate The Issues

Will Senator Obama stop the petty distractions, accusations and personal attacks and start dealing with the issues important to the american people?

It is becoming quite tiring having to deal with constant attempts to sway the conversation away from the issues most important, while demeaning a fellow democrat, former First Lady and fellow sitting senior Senator, with talk of question her honesty and making claims of attacks.  When, if anything, facts as recent as last week's debate and this past weekend's calls and ads points to someone else not being truthful.

I would actually like to see some leadership.  I surely don't like whining from persons asking for voters to elect them to the highest job in our country.

If Senator Obama really decries what he claims, will he STOP?  STOP NOW and join Senator Clinton in the debates she has proposed for the voters to hear about the issues they care about?

Senator Clinton has been continuing her conversation for Solutions for America.  

Today on the Trail: In North Carolina, Hillary hosts a “Solutions for America” event in Jacksonville, NC. In Indiana, she hosts “Solutions for the American Economy” events in Bloomington, East Chicago, and Fort Wayne. She also meets with steelworkers to discuss creating and protecting jobs in Gary.

Senator Clinton agreed to a debate in North Carolina, but Senator Obama rejected it.

Oregon wants a debate!

Also take a look at part of a post titled “Presidential debates in Oregon? Yes we can!” on BlueOregon from Paddy McGuire, the former Executive Director of the Oregon Democratic Party:

Sign our petition at

But in this case, Hillary Clinton hits the nail on the head. Oregonians don’t just want question-free rallies, thirty second commercials and campaign rhetoric – we want to hear about how each candidate will help us right here in Oregon.

In the Compact, Hillary took a stand on protecting Oregon’s right to determine the siting of LNG terminals, vowed to stop and reverse the depletion of Wild Salmon and protect Oregon’s Death with Dignity law. If this opens up a debate in Oregon on the issues I am all for it.

She is also challenging Senator Obama to debate twice in Oregon, once specifically on rural issues in our state. I couldn’t have been happier to sign her petition at calling on both candidates to hold two presidential debates in Oregon. I just hope Senator Obama joins the conversation so we can focus on the issues rather than the trivia.

And Indiana is calling for debates.  Senator Obama, didn't you agree that it is the issues the voters care about?  Will you talk about the issues?

Sen. Obama Calls Debates a “Game:” The Indianapolis Star is calling on Sen. Obama to accept an invitation to debate Hillary in the Hoosier State….In OR, Clinton “proposed two debates, including one on the challenges facing rural Oregonians.” Sen. Obama responded “call[ing] Clinton’s challenge ‘an old, Washington game.’” Since when did debating the issues and giving voters a choice become a “game?”

Senator Obama, you have only debated Senator Clinton 4 times, 4 times.  Enough is enough, debate the issues we care about.

Tags: Barack Obama, Debate, Hillary Clinton, Indiana, issues, negative, North Carolina, Oregon, policy (all tags)



Re: Stop Distractions with False Accusations, Deba

What a joke, after the diaries you've posted.  

by politicsmatters 2008-04-25 04:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Stop Distractions with False Accusations, Deba

You mean in response to Senator Obama's attacks?  Gee, I guess you consider talking about anything but the issues a joke, huh?

by LindaSFNM 2008-04-25 04:58PM | 0 recs
Re: Stop Distractions with False Accusations, Deba

should have been, I guess you consider talking about anything including the issues a joke.

by LindaSFNM 2008-04-25 05:00PM | 0 recs
Those are the tactics of fascism..

I'm not kidding, they really are... read more here.. t.htm

by architek 2008-04-25 05:31PM | 0 recs
Re: Stop Distractions with False Accusations, Deba

Actually, I apologize. I was feeling angry after seeing Rep. Clyburn confused with Rep. Jefferson and some other race-related posts.  You didn't deserve what I wrote.

by politicsmatters 2008-04-25 05:01PM | 0 recs
Fact Check

Obama proposed the first NC debate which Clinton rejected and in turn she proposed an alternate debate, which he rejected.

by venavena 2008-04-25 05:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Fact Check

It was a Jewish holiday.  

by LindaSFNM 2008-04-25 05:01PM | 0 recs
Says a person with a diary on the rec list

about Keith Olbermann trying to incite violence...

You truly deserve a cat...


In the General Election there are only 3 debates and it is typically the strategy of the winner to avoid debates as it is free airtime for the loser.

by Student Guy 2008-04-25 05:00PM | 0 recs
My bad

you only recced them, thus signifying your support for the thought.

by Student Guy 2008-04-25 05:01PM | 0 recs
you really must be a student

because this is not funny, doesn't contribute to the conversation, is a smart-alec way to not respond, and just proves the diarist's point:
do anything but to talk about the issues.

You do your candidate a great disservice.

by 4justice 2008-04-25 10:33PM | 0 recs
Humor is among the most mature way

to disagree with someone, with projetion being the least mature.  I tried to lighten the mood, then put in my $.02 about there being more 1-1 primary debates than is typical in the GE.

Also I stated the typical reason for a front runner to oppose debates.

Humor can be a valuable asset.

by Student Guy 2008-04-25 10:40PM | 0 recs
of course humor is fine

but mature humor calls for some intellect, not just pictures of cats.  If you want to make your point, consider the methods of humor you choose, and your audience.

by 4justice 2008-04-25 10:49PM | 0 recs
I am sorry I personally

think that the serious cat is hilarious, I am sorry you don't share my taste in humor.

by Student Guy 2008-04-25 10:57PM | 0 recs
Re: of course humor is fine

How about you learn to expand your own horizons instead of forcing everyone else to adhere to yours, and judging everyone else by your own regardless of circumstance?

by ragekage 2008-04-25 11:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Stop Distractions with False Accusations, Deba

Didn't she turn down numerous debates while she was running for senate??

by hootie4170 2008-04-25 05:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Stop Distractions with False Accusations, Deba

Absolutely. She is well known for refusing to debate.

by politicsmatters 2008-04-25 05:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Stop Distractions with False Accusations, Deba

Good luck trying to get a Clinton supporter on My DD to admit that.  

by Blue Neponset 2008-04-25 05:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Stop Distractions with False Accusations, Deba

Good luck trying to get an Obama supporter to stick to the subject.  lol

Would you like me to start bringing up Senator Obama's actions and tactics in his Illinois campaigns?  I didn't think so.

See, here we go again talking away from the important issues.

by LindaSFNM 2008-04-25 05:18PM | 0 recs
of course.. they never answer..

thats why I have to wonder.. are they being PAID to do this?

by architek 2008-04-25 05:33PM | 0 recs
Re: of course.. they never answer..

Oh, yeah, of course. Heck, Obama's got all the money, so he's paying us to point out the hypocrisy of these statements, Clinton's actions, et cetera.

by ragekage 2008-04-25 11:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Stop Distractions with False Accusations, Deba

Go for it. I am not afraid of the truth.

I don't pretend Obama is perfect.  I just think he is the best candidate for the job.  

by Blue Neponset 2008-04-25 05:41PM | 0 recs
What the heck are you talking about?

Obama is out there talking about the issues. Hillary should do the same. He is the presumptive nominee and she really got her last best debate chance when her husband's communications director got to be the debate moderator for ABC. No more free publicity for Hillary.

That said, who knows what Sen. Obama will do, but my advice for him would be that he should immediately issue a debate challenge, to John McCain, and the two of them should debate before Indiana.

by Travis Stark 2008-04-25 05:08PM | 0 recs
Re: What the heck are you talking about?

That's funny.  

Hillary is always talking about the issues and that's the point.  Obama should join her.  

by LindaSFNM 2008-04-25 05:16PM | 0 recs
Re: What the heck are you talking about?

I don't think Obama or Clinton have been focusing on the issues enough.  They're being drowned by all the bickering and the issues are getting little coverage these days.

by venavena 2008-04-25 05:23PM | 0 recs
Hillary is talking about them.. a lot..

Thats another obvious BIG LIE(TM) from Planet O'Drama..

If anyone is actually in doubt, why don't you spend a little bit of time watching Hillary speak and the first thing you notice.. she talks about the issues.. a LOT.. with people. She doesn't mind uncontrolled, unscripted situations.. like Obama clearly does.. (everything he does is planned and choreographed) she knows her stuff and she discusses it.

by architek 2008-04-25 05:36PM | 0 recs
I disagree.

No need to get testy.  You have your opinion and I have mine.

by venavena 2008-04-25 05:44PM | 0 recs
Stop Distractions with False Accusations, Debate

YES.  The Obama supporters here seem to keep missing the point.  They want to continue attacks and not talking about the issues.  HELLO, when is enough enough?

All I keep reading is why Obama should not talk about the issues and debate.  That's not talking about what the people care about.

by environmentally blue 2008-04-25 05:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Stop Distractions with False Accusations, Deb

When she drops out we will stop attacking her.  Until then she should get used to the heat of the kitchen.  

by Blue Neponset 2008-04-25 05:42PM | 0 recs
Just what we need...
more 'flag pin' questions and Ayers/Wright loops...

got anything else?

Why don't y'all check out the


and let me know how Hillary can win this without getting at least 75% of the remaining superdelegates (which is unlikely).

by power of truth 2008-04-25 05:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Stop Distractions

From the sound of today's talk shows, Obama's supporters still prefer the distractions route.  They're all over the place claiming once again that Bill Clinton is a racist.  Interesting, they pulled the same act after Hillary's win in New Hampshire in prep for South Carolina.  Now she's won PA, so Bill is once again a racist to help O out in North Carolina.

Every state should have a one-on-one debate until the primaries are over. Obama says he wants to focus on the issues, but refuses to debate them.  What a guy.  'Fire it up' has gotten really old.

by moevaughn 2008-04-25 05:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Stop Distractions with False Accusations, Deba

In 1961, a young African-American man, after hearing President John F. Kennedy's challenge to, 'Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country,' gave up his student deferment, left college in Virginia and voluntarily joined the Marines.

In 1963, this man, having completed his two years of service in the Marines, volunteered again to become a Navy corpsman. (They provide medical assistance to the Marines as well as to Navy personnel.)

The man did so well in corpsman school that he was the valedictorian and became a cardiopulmonary technician. Not surprisingly, he was assigned to the Navy's premier medical facility, Bethesda Naval Hospital, as a member of the commander in chief's medical team, and helped care for President Lyndon B. Johnson after his 1966 surgery.

For his service on the team, which he left in 1967, the White House
awarded him three letters of commendation.

What is even more remarkable is that this man entered the Marines and Navy not many years after the two branches began to become integrated.

While this young man was serving six years on active duty, Vice President Dick Cheney, who was born the same year as the Marine/ sailor, received five deferments, four for being an undergraduate and graduate student and one for being a prospective father.

Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, both five years younger than the African-American youth, used their student deferments to stay
in college until 1968. Both then avoided going on active duty through family connections.

Who is the real patriot? The young man who interrupted his studies to serve his country for six years or our three political leaders who beat the system? Are the patriots the people who actually sacrifice something or those who merely talk a bout their love of the country?

After leaving the service of his country, the young African-American finished his final year of college, entered the seminary, was ordained
 as a minister, and eventually became pastor of a large church in one of
 America's biggest cities.

This man is Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the retiring pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ and Obama's former spiritual advisor.

Blessed are you when women revile you and utter all manner of false things against you for my sake- Jesus

by URKnot 2008-04-25 06:37PM | 0 recs


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