What we really need is some more threads on Rev Wirght dont you think.  I mean what is a bigger issue???  Can some one post some more of his videos so the group still going on about Tuzla can see them.  I am sure you would like to see some more.

david

Really like i was never in church when Rev Wright said antything offensive.  I think all those voters in Nov are going to want to know.  Why does BO think that Rev Wright should not be thrown under the bus.  

Also, why does BO think Imus must be fired and why does Ferraro have to be destroyed because BO has zero tolerance for racism but his frieds get a free ride.  

Will David Alexrod be fired for his memo telling supporters to play up race?  

But come on you want to talk about Tuzla lets talk about playing the race card to smear other dems.  

NO no really classy.

david

The problem is not just the spin, but the underlying context. Though Bill finally made the right decision in the end, 1995, he could have acted to save thousands of more lives (including the 9000 men and boy massacred in Srebrenica) if he had followed through with his lift and strike policy. Why did he back off?

One reason was Hillary. There are plenty of sources on this in my diaries, but I'll give you one right now, from an interview with Lee Aspin in 1994:

"As he walked into the room, Clinton was carrying a book called Balkan Ghosts, by Robert Kaplan. And he said, "My wife read this and I read some of it too. And it says that we can't succeed doing anything in that society. They've been killing each other for thousands of years and they're going to keep doing it." And Les Aspin said later, he was sitting there thinking, "He's going to go south on Lift and Strike." And he called Europe, got Christopher, and said, "Don't say anything. The President's going to change his mind." And in fact the President did."

Delete this piece of crap.

As a Clinton supporter, I'm disappointed in the Tuzla story.  I don't get it, actually.  To me, it makes no sense to tell a "lie" that is so easily disproved in today's information society.  

But that gets to the heart of the question. I watched her recite this story, and it certainly didn't appear to be presented in any contrived fashion.  And she knew there were press and celebrities along with her.  So, to intentionally tell it inaccurately makes no sense.  She's anything but stupid, and she knows every word she utters is rife for opposition research. So again, it doesn't make sense on its face.

So, where does that leave us?  

What bothers me most is that people --like you, diarist-- want to automatically ascribe your own interpretations of her character and her honesty. What exactly do you know about her heart?  

You mention that "truth is simply what actually happened".  That's interesting.  It's been demonstrated time and time again that "truth" is nearly always subjective to some degree.  Put ten people in a situation where they witness an event, and then question them as to "what actually happened", you'll likely come up with very significant differences in some areas.  So "truth", as it were, is not always the absolute you make it out to be.  

And now, let's get some other truth.  What lies have YOU told in your life that would give us a window into YOUR soul? Let's see just how honest YOU are.  And no, I'm not talking about the "white lies" that are said so as not to hurt someone's feelings.  Nor am I talking about fibbing to your mom about finishing your homework. I'm talking about significant lies that any and all humans I have ever encountered have told.  Now, unless you're going to put yourself into some kind of super-human category, it's time to fess up.  Let's hear them.

Otherwise, let's stop with your foolish pop psychology.  I can give you several examples of Obama's --shall we say-- "inconsistencies", to be charitable.  As a matter of fact, one could easily label them, "lies".  Now, what would that tell us about his soul?  Does anyone with even a modicum of common sense think that a person who spends 20 years as a congregant of Rev Wright's church has never heard him say bigoted or anti-American remarks?  Talk about straining credulity. But hey, I guess with Hillary Clinton, we should judge her as a liar and Obama should just be taken at his word.  Yeah, that sounds fair.  

So let's hear YOUR lifetime lies, diarist.  Let's find out what's in YOUR soul.  

Something tells me I shouldn't hold my breath waiting.  

Al Gore is a liar...

He says he invented the internet...

Heis SUCH a liar.

Zeifman, Hillary Dishonest Lawyer --

As Hillary Clinton came under increasing scrutiny for her story about facing sniper fire in Bosnia, one question that arose was whether she has engaged in a pattern of lying.

The now-retired general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, who supervised Hillary when she worked on the Watergate investigation, says Hillary's history of lies and unethical behavior goes back farther - and goes much deeper - than anyone realizes.

Jerry Zeifman, a lifelong Democrat, supervised the work of 27-year-old Hillary Rodham on the committee. Hillary got a job working on the investigation at the behest of her former law professor, Burke Marshall, who was also Sen. Ted Kennedy's chief counsel in the Chappaquiddick affair. When the investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation - one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman's 17-year career.
Why?  "Because she was a liar," Zeifman said in an interview last week. "She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality."

URL:  :/stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/0 4/01/hillary-was-fired-from-congressiona l-job-for-unethical-behavior/trackback