Barack Obama, Establishment Man

By L.C. Johnson (bio/blog)

What's wrong with this picture?  Barack Obama runs as the "outsider" fighting against the "special" interests.  Barack claims:

"I am in this race to tell the corporate lobbyists that their days of setting the agenda in Washington are over. I have done more than any other candidate in this race to take on lobbyists -- and won. They have not funded my campaign, they will not get a job in my White House, and they will not drown out the voices of the American people when I am president."

-- Barack Obama, Speech in Des Moines, IA, November 10, 2007


Okay.  Then if he is the candidate of change fighting Washington, why did a majority of the Washington, DC and the government employees in the surrounding suburbs and those pesky lobbyists and their spouses and employees, vote for Barack?  You see, I believe that people act in their own interest.  So, when the folks who live inside the beltway, vote in large measure for Barack, then maybe he is not what he claims to be.

The Obama cult is a phenomenom.  A weird phenomenom.  People are enthralled with the idea of Obama and know nothing about his past, his performance, and the scandals that will bring him down.  And, smack dab in the middle of the enablers, are most of the TV and print journalists.  Very few are writing or reporting the kind of tough stories they unleash on Hillary on a regular basis.

My neighbor, who is a prominent Republican lobbyist, was commenting the other day on the inspiring nature of the Obama campaign.  He was repeating the positive vibe.  I then asked him about issues such as Rezko and the disconnect between his rhetoric and how he actually votes.  He was surprised and shocked.  He said, "I haven't heard any of this." Obviously he's not a reader of NoQuarter.  But he is a politically astute, well-informed guy.  When he heard the true story of Obama's past (including Obama's Kenyan ties and muslim relatives).  He flipped.

Let's face it.  The establishment media have a habit of doing this shit.  They happily went along with selling the Bush Administration bullshit and lies about the threat of terrorism and the need to invade Iraq.  Oh sure, some, like Sy Hersh pushed back, but his efforts were overwhelmed by the likes of Michael Gordon and Judith Miller, Tim Russert, Chris Matthews, and the Washington Post.  There were clear voices warning beforehand that the intelligence was fixed and that the war was not needed, but the press played along with the Bush propaganda machine and persuaded a majority of Americans that war with Iraq was the only solution for keeping us safe.

And don't start in with Obama's so-called opposition to the war.  One damn speech really doesn't count.  What counts is what he has done since coming to Washington.  He hasn't joined the likes of Russ Feingold in pushing for an immediate withdrawal.  He's played the politically safe game.  I do not fault him for that.  My beef is he thinks, rightly so, that most of the voters are too fucking dumb to realize that he is blowing smoke up their ass.  Say one thing and do another.

Yeah, Obama is Mr. Anti-Washington.  He is surrounded by Tom Daschle, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, and Patrick Leahy.  If you believe that those guys represent "changing the way business is done in Washington," then you will believe anything.

We will know next week if Hillary can recover.  I give the Obama camp credit.  They organized and spent resources in Virginia and Maryland and thumped Hillary.  Hillary's campaign was awful in Maryland and Virginia.  Obama's folks made an effort to personally visit and speak with every registered Democrat.  Hillary did not.  Obama's folks called every registered Democrat (or at least tried to) to ask for their vote.  Hillary did not.  This explains in part, I think, why Patti Doyle, the campaign manager, was fired.  She is incompetent.  I hope for the sake of the country that Maggie Williams has time to right the ship and get Hillary back on top.

In the meantime, we have to watch the equivalent of a papal coronation, as the media and fans exhult in the Obama Messiah, the black Jesus come to save us.  But sometime in the next four months, the excitement will fade as the reality of who Obama is comes out.

Consider this simple example.  How do Hillary and Obama handle foreign contributions?

Hillary requires every contribution from overseas to be made as a check and must be accompanied by a copy of the passport or green card that corresponds to the name on the check.  This part of her fundraising is kept separate from that raised within the borders of the United. States

Obama, does not segregate his foreign money and has no controls in place to verify that the contributors are in fact legally entitled to contribute to his campaign.

Now I know Obamaphiles will simply bend over and stick their head in their neighbor's ass and proclaim the putrid aroma as the heaven-sent breath of God.  They will say this means nothing and is just carping.

Well, what happens a month or two down the road when the vetting of those contributions--whether by Hillary's camp, the Republicans, or the FEC--occurs and it turns out laws were broken?  If Obama is so brilliant, then why does he not understand that he needs to avoid these problems and avoid giving his opponents ammo?  That tells me he ain't all that bright.  He does not have to worry about those details because, HE IS OBAMA.

What we have, ladies and gents, is another Establishment Man.  Easily manipulated by the father figures he desperately seeks and gratified by the adulation of the masses, he is buying into his "man of destiny" nonsense.  Many in the public are seized with this religious, worshipful madness.  Unfortunately, Obama, conquering hero is riding in the parade and soaked in the praise of frenetic crowds.  He has received very little pushback so far.  But it will come.  And Obama would be wise to heed the following advice:

For over a thousand years Roman conquerors returning from the wars enjoyed the honor of triumph, a tumultuous parade. The conqueror rode in a triumphal chariot, the dazed prisoners walking in chains before him. And a slave stood behind the conqueror holding a golden crown and whispering in his ear a warning: that all glory is fleeting."

Tags: Barack Obama, FEC, foreign contributions, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Patrick Leahy, Ted Kennedy, Tom Daschle (all tags)

Comments

61 Comments

Re: Barack Obama, Establishment Man

Your comments are welcome. I am "out of pocket" at work with U.S. soldiers but will try to get back here later.

by Larr Johnson 2008-02-13 11:15AM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama, Establishment Man

List of K Street lobbyists endorsing Oblahma -

http://www.rollcall.com/politics/kstendo rsements.html

btw - isn't Tom Daschle a biggie in Obama's campaign?

by annefrank 2008-02-13 02:05PM | 0 recs
After reading this diary closer

and seeing the racist leading comments in it, I can NOT rec'd this diary and I also would like to ask anyone who has rec'd this diary to please rethink your rec'd.

Sorry ...  but race baiting, religion bashing and baiting and sexism MUST DIE!  

by kevin22262 2008-02-13 04:36PM | 0 recs
You're cool, Kevin. n/t

by CarolinaNumber23 2008-02-13 05:02PM | 0 recs
Thanks!

I think many rec'd this diary without catching the offending comments. I know I did.

It took the commenter who was pissed and brought them to light to get me to go back and reread.

by kevin22262 2008-02-13 05:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama, Establishment Man

Obama and Ted Kennedy

You can't get any more establishment than Ted Kennedy.

by sonofdonkeykong 2008-02-13 11:18AM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama, Establishment Man

Try anyone with the name "Clinton".

by Major Organ 2008-02-13 01:42PM | 0 recs
You are a disgusting

race-baiter.

My neighbor, who is a prominent Republican lobbyist, was commenting the other day on the inspiring nature of the Obama campaign.  He was repeating the positive vibe.  I then asked him about issues such as Rezko and the disconnect between his rhetoric and how he actually votes.  He was surprised and shocked.  He said, "I haven't heard any of this."  Obviously he's not a reader of NoQuarter.  But he is a politically astute, well-informed guy.  When he heard the true story of Obama's past (including Obama's Kenyan ties and muslim relatives).  He flipped.

This is the kind of asshole who forwards the madrassa email.

In the meantime, we have to watch the equivalent of a papal coronation, as the media and fans exhult in the Obama Messiah, the black Jesus come to save us.

Go to hell.

by CarolinaNumber23 2008-02-13 11:25AM | 0 recs
Re: You are a disgusting

Guy is born Muslim.  Named Obama Hussein.

Guy raised by Muslim step father in Muslim country.

Guy makes statements about being with the Muslims when the chips are down.

Why is it racist to have cause for pause from that?

I have not talked about race, I am not all that worried about religion as long as its out in the open.

But why is he trying to hide it?

by sonofdonkeykong 2008-02-13 11:33AM | 0 recs
That is BS

please stop with the right wing spin

by kevin22262 2008-02-13 04:28PM | 0 recs
Hold on a moment!

When did Larry act "racist"? When has he lied about Obama's record? Just because you disagree with Larry doesn't give you the right to smear him as some "troll".

by atdleft 2008-02-13 12:07PM | 0 recs
Going around telling people

about his 'muslim relativess and "Kenyan ties" in order to persuade them to vote against Obama is race-baiting.

by CarolinaNumber23 2008-02-13 12:12PM | 0 recs
There is nothing wrong with being Muslim

and Obama is not Muslim.

Was it a 'factual assertion' for Bush to smear McCain of having fathered an illegitimate black child in 2000?

by MILiberal 2008-02-13 01:25PM | 0 recs
Sorry,

Confused what Larry was saying with someone above.

But anyways, my point is that it is NOT okay to take advantage of racism in order to get your candidate to win. Obama has Muslim relatives, but the clear implication of telling someone that is to imply that Obama himself may be Muslim, and thus is somehow connected to terrorism (as many Americans unfortunately think.) By doing this, you are not directly lying, but the end result is to create misleading impressions in someone else's mind, which is wrong.

Let me give you an example: Suppose I went out and told people that Clinton has been suspected of murdering Vince Foster, etc. This is technically correct - many right-wing idiots do believe this is true. But it ignores the fact that all official investigations into this case have concluded that Foster committed suicide, and no reputable official seriously believes this.

by MILiberal 2008-02-13 02:29PM | 0 recs
Poor choice of words on my part

I meant discrimination instead.

But you're obviously refusing to address my main point here.

by MILiberal 2008-02-13 03:47PM | 0 recs
Re: Going around telling people

I believe Larry Johnson merely alerts readers to foreign policy concerns members of the intelligence community have raised with respect to Obama's inappropriate intervention in Kenya's recent election on his cousin's behalf.   One writer who articulates these reservations is Joe Wilson, the husband of Valerie Plame.  I quote:

What gives us confidence that Mr. Obama will be stronger the next time he faces Mr. McCain, a seasoned political fighter with extensive national security credentials? Even more important, what special disadvantages does Mr. Obama carry into this contest on questions of national security?

How will Mr. Obama answer Mr. McCain about his careless remark about unilaterally bombing Pakistan - perhaps blowing up an already difficult relationship with a nuclear state threatened by Islamic extremists? How will Mr. Obama respond to charges made by the Kenyan government that his campaigning activities in Kenya in support of his distant cousin running for president there made him "a stooge" and constituted interference in the politics of an important and besieged ally in the war on terror?


by truthteller2007 2008-02-14 12:33PM | 0 recs
Re: You are a disgusting

You need to read Larry's other articles on Obama/Kenya:

Obama's African Hubris »
By Larry Johnson on Jan 31, 2008

Update on Kenya Update »
By Larry Johnson on Feb 11, 2008
Here's the latest installment from Garrett Jones courtesy of FPRI.  It is worth remembering that the Kenyan opposition leader, Odinga, insists that he is the cousin of Barack Obama.  Although Obama was raised by his Caucasian grandparents and had no meaningful contact with his Kenyan father during his childhood (and did nothing to invest himself [...]

And there are several more where those came from.  Use this already set-up search string to find those pieces.

THEN THERE is this from Joe Wilson's op-ed in the Baltimore Sun, which is re-posted in full at No Quarter:

How will Mr. Obama respond to charges made by the Kenyan government that his campaigning activities in Kenya in support of his distant cousin running for president there made him "a stooge" and constituted interference in the politics of an important and besieged ally in the war on terror?

FULL Wilson op-ed:  "Battle-Tested."

by susanhu 2008-02-13 01:11PM | 0 recs
"African Hubris."

I read it, and he is a racist scumbag (as well as a really bad liar).

by CarolinaNumber23 2008-02-13 01:51PM | 0 recs
Re: "African Hubris."

Obama and his bots have played the Race Card.

by annefrank 2008-02-13 02:10PM | 0 recs
So says someone who got

banned from Daily Kos for anti-semitism.

by CarolinaNumber23 2008-02-13 02:11PM | 0 recs
You're misinformed

I was banned because I opposed the intolerance of targeting and troll rating certain commenters rather than comments.
In that case, the commenter had a good record, but apparently at one time went ballistic over the Israeli government's influence on our government. His retaliation included a gang TR'ing ALL his future comments.
ALL of them - even those unrelated to Israel.

There's nothing about me that's anti-Semitic.

by annefrank 2008-02-13 02:34PM | 0 recs
Re: So says someone who got

now obamabots will accuse others of anti-semitism if they refuse to support obama?  What other forms of blackmail will be deployed in order to quell dissent and debate during this primary?

by truthteller2007 2008-02-14 12:35PM | 0 recs
Re: "African Hubris."

Please cite any demonstrably racist passages in the diaries Susanhu cites.  

by truthteller2007 2008-02-14 12:27PM | 0 recs
This is bad

There always has to be some supporters on both sides that fling the right wing spin and smears. Cna't the RW do it themselves?

One thing about the "Messiah" comment. I am actually starting to hear Obama referred to a messiah "like", etc. by some of his supporters. I have heard people on the radio and in person actually using terms like that. I know it is few, but it is there and some of the graphics, etc. on his website push this without saying it.

by kevin22262 2008-02-13 04:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama, Establishment Man

Calling Obama an establishment man reflects more on your judgment as an Obama hater than his actual status. Front runner? Yes. But establishment? Please.

by wolff109 2008-02-13 11:25AM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama, Establishment Man

Actually, he is pretty establishment at this point.  If you truly wanted a no establishment candidate, then why did you ignore Edwards.  

This is a weird primary.  The 'progressive' voters ignored the truly progressive candidates.  Obama is constantly calling Clinton out for things he does himself.  Obama followers feel that anything he says is gold.  It is really weird.

by findthesource 2008-02-13 01:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama, Establishment Man
Obama cemented his establishment cred by stating Bush and Cheney had NOT committed impeachable offenses.
No other candidate has said that....
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/ 2007-06-28-obama-impeachment_N.htm
by annefrank 2008-02-13 02:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama, Establishment Man

When he heard the true story of Obama's past (including Obama's Kenyan ties and muslim relatives).  He flipped.

In the meantime, we have to watch the equivalent of a papal coronation, as the media and fans exhult in the Obama Messiah, the black Jesus come to save us.

Thank god you, Mr. Johnson, are here to save us from those scary, SCARY brown people.

You've fallen so damn far. You went from an extremely well-respected writer to a joke, a broken down, crazed-screed writing race baiter.

What a shame.

by theblaz 2008-02-13 11:41AM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama, Establishment Man

You are missing the point.

Obama got, what, 32% of his VA vote yesterday from Republicans and non-Democrats, under the narrative that Hillary is a partisan and Obama is a uniter. It is fair to assume some of this vote was like Kos' Democrats for Mitt, who wants to pick its opponent.

How much of that indy vote will he keep once he gets any negative press at all, and a GOP 527 runs the sort of adds then run against Gore and Kerry? Obama thinks Clinton is tough, and that's scary.

Our process should provide an indication of how well our candidates will hold up after the nomination, and right now, we have no idea at all how voters will respond when they have a more specific idea what Obama stands for, simply because the press has not given equal treatment.

by Pacific John 2008-02-13 12:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama, Establishment Man

Right now, polls indicate that Obama does better against the Republican candidates than Clinton, but leave that aside.

Obama will keep more Indy's than he loses, what with the country in "Republican fatigue" and overwhelmingly against that party, buit leave that aside, too.

Either of our candidates would be strong and would win, I have little doubt of that. I would happily support either of them, I have no clear favorite.

But Larry has been race-baiting repeatedly, at DKos and I assume here, if he's cross-posting. His diaries all have those little dog-whistle comments (scary muslims! powerful black people!) designed to bring out the inner racist, as evident by his neighbor who was apparently enraged to find out Obama had (gasp!) muslim relatives.

I'm not really concerned with whether Obama is more likely to win than Clinton or vice versa, because I'm confident in BOTH of them.

My problem is with Johnson's race-baiting.

by theblaz 2008-02-13 12:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama, Establishment Man

What Kool-aid have you been drinking? Obama has been  driving massive turnout all over the country. To say that he doesn't have resonance with independents (and even some Repubs) is absurd.

And BTW, the Kos "Democrats for Mitt" thing was never an attempt to get Mitt nominated. It was an attempt to give him a boost in Michigan so that he'd stay in the race and keep bashing the other guys. (He was without a win at that point, and starting to go negative.) I disagreed with it on principal.

by PhilFR 2008-02-13 01:49PM | 0 recs
This diary race-baits.

Johnson admits to race-baiting by telling his neighbor about Obama's 'Kenya ties and muslim relatives.'

And you approve of the race-baiting and recommended it.

Whether it's because you share Mr. Johnson's beliefs or because you have Obama Derangement Syndrome, is quite immaterial.

by CarolinaNumber23 2008-02-13 01:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama, Establishment Man

Yes, it makes sense to reject the endorsement of the most well recognized and respected members of the party whose nomination you are seeking.

I can understand the frustration with a media that is more concerned with ensuring future access than producing hard hitting stories - but the rest of this is crap.

Mr. Johnson is falling victim to the same media narrative issues that he is complaining about. He probably some of the pictures circulating the internet with the women crying, then extrapolated to thinking that Obama's supporters are just a bunch of mindless fanatics. Most people I know that support Obama do so because he's not a Clinton, has an inspirational background, is great on the stump, and is a progressive Democrat on the issues. It's the same stuff that drew people to Clinton, Reagan and any other popular candidate.

If this is the same Larry that I've seen on some of the news shows, I really respect the guy, but he sounds just as irrational in his hatred towards Obama as "fucking dumb" voters that support him.  

by highgrade 2008-02-13 11:42AM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama, Establishment Man

That's where you're wrong though -- Obama is not a progressive democrat. His plans to eliminate taxes and overhaul the tax system, and his refusal to include mandatory low-cost health insurance purchases, and his unwillingness to regulate the nuclear industry, and his lack of any national security program make him as far right as he is far left. He occupies that space where extremists, and young ideologues who are voting for change without knowing what kind of change they are expecting, meet.

But, he sir, or mam, is no progressive democrat.

by seattlegonz 2008-02-13 12:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama, Establishment Man

John Edwards was mentioned on Boston Legal last night!  during a legal argument about building more nuclear power plants which Edwards opposes.

by annefrank 2008-02-13 02:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama, Establishment Man

Libertine -- when liberalism gets twisted.

by seattlegonz 2008-02-13 08:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Hard to Believe a Republican lobbyist didn't

Not a messiah, asshole.  Just a really, really good politician.  Beating the shit out of your experienced candidate by the looks of things.  You dumbasses are pathetic. Your positively livid that a black guy can take this thing away from you.  Hit the road, mouthbreathers.

by PositiveFreedom 2008-02-13 11:57AM | 0 recs
I know, for someone running...

Against the "Washington Establishment", Obama seems to have A LOT of the Establishment supporting him. I find it funny, frankly, that Obama's doing an about-face on his supposed "anti-establishment" campaign of "bold change". ;-)

by atdleft 2008-02-13 12:10PM | 0 recs
I've been trying to decide

whose teeth gnashing from an Obama nomination I will enjoy most.

Seymour is clearly out in front, but Larry is increasingly catching up to SusanHu.  GADem6th is a darkhorse.

At this point - it could be a photo finish for second place --- you'll need more of the Kenyan connection bullshit to catch Seymour, Larry.

Come on, buddy... you can do it!

by zonk 2008-02-13 12:12PM | 0 recs
Re: I've been trying to decide

Oh man that is funny!
And you know this guy is copy~pasting his same crappy post on Kos.  I guess he's proud of his little essay.  Where else can I read this?  

As much as it pains me to come here, at least you have managed to make an intriguing sport out of watching these cynical misinformed posters self-destruct.

I will hold out hope that most perople reading this board are well informed, well educated types, who see this drivel for what it really is.

by haystax calhoun 2008-02-13 12:47PM | 0 recs
You need to dial it back a bit

I agree that Obama is of the establishment.
I agree that there are some things that Repubilcans will have a field day with.
I think that Obama may be setting himself up to be the George McGovern of the 21st century.

But phrases like "black Jesus" are just plain ugly. It may play well on conservative blogs but not here.

If you can't get your diary out in 2-3 paragraphs put yourself on Rant alert and take a walk around the block.

by ineedalife 2008-02-13 12:35PM | 0 recs
I wish that that was true

"But phrases like "black Jesus" are just plain ugly. It may play well on conservative blogs but not here."

If only that was the case.

It is a sign of how far MyDD has fallen that this pathetic excuse for a diary is currently on the recommended list.

by MILiberal 2008-02-13 01:28PM | 0 recs
Re: I wish that that was true

No but it just using jesus is enough I would think. I don't think whether you use black or white is necessary. The same point is made.

by Ga6thDem 2008-02-13 04:16PM | 0 recs
This site is infested with racist

HRC supporters.

by CarolinaNumber23 2008-02-13 01:51PM | 0 recs
I would not go that far.

Only that they are so intent on winning that they are willing to turn a blind eye to racism.

by MILiberal 2008-02-13 01:55PM | 0 recs
Same difference.

They're only progressive on race until black people interfere with their plans.  Then the hoods come out.

by CarolinaNumber23 2008-02-13 02:05PM | 0 recs
I know you are angry

but this comment is not much better. As the diarist comments are racist leaning, this comment infers that Hillary Clinton supporters are racist.

It ALL needs to stop.

by kevin22262 2008-02-13 05:40PM | 0 recs
Not true

some people are just asses. From both sides I am seeing racist and sexist comments. It needs to stop.

Inferring racism or that everyone is racist are both bad!

I am so sick of all the racism and sexism here, on dkos and in Life!

Makes me sick to be a human being at times.

by kevin22262 2008-02-13 05:42PM | 0 recs
There are some

much like there are some sexist people here and on Dkos.

In my other comment I mentioed that some people may have rec'd the diary without noticing the bad parts.

by kevin22262 2008-02-13 05:38PM | 0 recs
Grab a dictionary

Hypocrisy means saying one thing and DOING another thing. As in:

Barack Obama says one thing then does another thing.

You seem to be defining it as:

Barack Obama says one thing and then some other person does another thing.

Let me explain:

Barack Obama says he's in this race to run against powerful Washington interests (Obama saying something).

Some powerful Washington interests endorse Obama (someone else doing another thing).

See how that works? It's two different people.

Now...unless you're calling on Obama to call up all of his washington supporters to tell them to go to hell...then you need to find a dictionary, and look up "hypocrisy"

by pastor john 2008-02-13 12:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Grab a dictionary

yeah but he says he gets no lobbyist funding, but then he turns around and receives lobbyist funding.  Is that not hypocrisy.

by findthesource 2008-02-13 01:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Grab a dictionary

No one FORCED Obama to accept endorsements from Washington lobbyists.

by annefrank 2008-02-13 02:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama, Establishment Man

Such vile filth.

by Socks The Cat 2008-02-13 01:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama, Establishment Man

The premise of this post is all wrong.  

The fact that Obama got enormous support in the D.C. primary does not reflect that he is the "establishment" candidate.  Although there are a lot of lobbyist who live in D.C. not a lot of the people who live in D.C. are lobbyists.  

This numbnuts has obviously never lived in (or visited?) D.C.

by ruskin 2008-02-13 01:52PM | 0 recs
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All of you condone this race-baiting venom.  Your support of Clinton has made you blind to the crap that is being thrown at Obama.  "black Jesus"?  You gotta be kidding me.  Apparently it only takes 23 people to ignore such filth and put this on the recommended list.

by Skaje 2008-02-13 02:34PM | 0 recs
Yep, the scummiest of the scummy

HRC supporters tend to congregate here.

by CarolinaNumber23 2008-02-13 02:38PM | 0 recs
Re: The following users recommended this diary
If diaries were recommended because users agreed with EVERY word - there would be fewer recommended diaries.
There are many truths in the diary and it's doubtful it was recommended because of the "black Jesus" alone.
by annefrank 2008-02-13 02:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama, Establishment Man

If the Obama people think this is bad just wait until the Fall. This is NOTHING!! As far as establishment these people are backing Obama:

Tom Daschle
Ted Kennedy
Pat Leahy
John Kerry

Yea all rebels against the establishment LOL

by rossinatl 2008-02-13 03:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Barack Obama, Establishment Man

Obama is like a bubble waiting to burst. When will it happen? After he wins the nomination? Will there be an October surprise by the GOP that will collapse his campaign for president in Oct?

It will all come out it's just a matter of when.

by Ga6thDem 2008-02-13 04:04PM | 0 recs
This diary had a chance

but you blew it with the race and religion comments.

by kevin22262 2008-02-13 04:40PM | 0 recs
This diary did have a chance:

Until I read the part where lowly government workers were compared to slick, greasy, corrupt lobbyists. My dad works for the government, makes less than 100K a year, and has never been or will ever be a lobbyist.  L.C., I don't know where you live in Virginia, but 90% of government workers do not make it big in the filth pit that is capital hill.  And no I do not buy into the magical pony of hope any more than I buy into Hillary "WallStreet" Clinton.  There are plenty of legitimate establishment critiques that can be leveled at Obama; you just picked the wrong ones.      

by rainmaker11 2008-02-13 06:59PM | 0 recs

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