Edwards advisor slams Barack Obama on elitist remarks!!

Barack Obama is simply out of touch with the mainstream of this country.  It was a surprise to see Dave "Mudcat" Saunders, a prominent Edwards advisor, speak out against the anti-working class candidate.

I really hope that this shows the Edwardses the light on who their candidate should be. We real Democrats have got to stick together :)

Let's hear it for Hillary!!!

From CNN's political ticker, link: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/200 8/04/12/southern-democrat-obamas-got-a-b unch-of-explaining-to-do/

"I'm a southern boy myself," Saunders told CNN by phone. "I don't have a gun because I'm bitter, it's because I've always had one. I don't pray to God because I'm bitter. I pray to God because it makes my life better."
Saunders said "rural America will be crucial in this election."

"The one thing that I preached during this whole deal is we can't be stereotyping anybody," he said. "Well, Barack Obama just stereotyped my people out in rural America."

"Here's a guy who says he shouldn't be stereotyped, but yet he stereotyped us."

Tags: Barack Obama, elitist, Hillary Clinton, John Edwards (all tags)



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Excellent, Kyle! Recommended!

by Nobama 2008-04-12 01:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards advisor slams Barack Obama on elitist

I think Mudcat doesn't make a lick of sense most times he speaks , but I understand why some would be outraged .

However Obama has said he regreted his remarks , so end of story for me.

I really don't give a rip what Mudcat says.

by lori 2008-04-12 01:08PM | 0 recs
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Saunders is actually a lot closer to agreeing with Obama than he realizes, if this quote is any indication:

"In regards to Virginia's anti-gay marriage amendment, Saunders was quoted as saying the following[2]:

   I think it's blasphemy to put this on the ballot and try to divide God's children for political gain. God loves them queers every bit that he loves the Republicans.


   It is political trickery - it has nothing to do with queers and marriage. It is to help Republicans, in general, unite their base in the name of hate. "

Colorful guy, and his heart and intentions are in the right place, but can anyone trumpet this guy's condemnation of Obama's choice of words when his own are pretty coarsely chosen?

by upstate girl 2008-04-12 01:12PM | 0 recs
That seems irrelevant..

because the rest of what he said makes it pretty clear that he isn't a bigot... he's telling it like it is.

by architek 2008-04-12 02:33PM | 0 recs
Re: That seems irrelevant..


Exactly like Obama's statements and how easy it is to parse them out of context without bothering to read for the actual meaning behind the statement.

by upstate girl 2008-04-12 02:35PM | 0 recs
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I'm not sure it would do Hillary Clinton all that much good (cuz she's so good as it is), but it would be cool if Edwards endorsed Clinton because of Obama being so out of touch.
by TexasDem4Clinton 2008-04-12 01:28PM | 0 recs
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I've read conflicting things on how an Edwards endorsement would effect the primary in NC. Some -- usually those who live there -- think it could hurt her.

by jen 2008-04-12 02:32PM | 0 recs
I'm confused

Exactly what policy position has Obama taken that makes him the anit-working class candidate?? Please show me.

by feliks 2008-04-12 01:53PM | 0 recs
Obama's healthcare plan - Please read..

    Obama talks a lot about 'making health insurance affordable' etc. Its a lie. He is weaving an artful lie. What Obama and his advisors endorse is the same model of healthcare that the GOP endorses - its euphemistically called "consumer driven" because they sell it as giving people more choice. The problem is, it reduces the cost of the so called 'insurance' BY HAVING IT INSURE LESS.

This increases peoples risk and it increases their cost for things like drugs and doctor visits and indeed, EVERYTHING, and studies have shown that the result is that poor people AVOID GOING TO THE DOCTOR AND THEY AVOID GETTING DRUGS THEY NEED BECAUSE OF THE COST. For example, a person who makes a modest salary may be given a 'choice' of a number of plans. The cheapest one - THE ONLY ONE THEY CAN REALISTICALLY AFFORD, may have a very high yearly deductible, or it may not cover drugs, or it may have a lifetime cap on benefits, or it may even have a monthly cap on benefits, or it may only pay 'usual and customary' fees that are in reality much lower what doctors and facilities charge, SO THEY THEN SEND YOU A BILL FOR THE DIFFERENCE AFTERWARD. So, people really don't have a choice at all, they can get into serious trouble financially because they think they are covered, but they in truth are not. I know from personal experience that often, the insurance companies DONT cover things and you end up with huge bills you HAVE to pay. Also, Obama is being deceptive in that he is trying to divert people's attention from the weaknesses in his plan by taking advantage of the naivete of many Americans on mathematics and some basic facts about insurance. The insurance business is fundamentally based on the concepts of probability that are also basic to gambling.

    Insurance, as many people know - is priced based on risk. The unit of insurance pricing is basically the group and the cost charged to insure that group is based on the risk assumed by the insurer, and the costs - So, if you are an insurer, you want to insure healthy people. Sick people cost a lot of money to you, so if someone is sick, you try to not assume their costs by avoiding offering them insurance. Or, by giving yourself as many loopholes as you can -THINGS YOU WONT COVER.

The way Hillary makes it possible for everybody to get insurance is by making as large a group of people as possible part of a group. The way Obama makes it possible for people to get insurance is by giving the insurance companies carte blanche to offer plans that cover less. This is a subject that is emotionally draining for me so I really dont want to write more now when Ive already written it, I get angry. Please read my several diaries on this issue. http://www.mydd.com/user/architek If you can, - its long - also read Elizabeth Edward's

    speech last week

to the Health Journalists on March 29 (scroll down to the keynote, around halfway down, then download the


) http://www.kaisernetwork.org/health_cast /hcast_index.cfm?display=detail&hc=2 532

Read the whole thing, she gives a number of examples of how Obama's and Hillary's plans are hugely different for sick people.

Edwards describes Obama's healthcare plan as 'half a plan'. Neither McCain or Obama would affordably cover people with pre-existing conditions!! (Obama sneakily says 'they would not be turned away- but he leaves it open to insurance companies to charge whatever they want to make it profitable for them. For people who are not in a large employer group, that ends up being so much, it might as well be unavailable. For example, for her, the cost quoted might be many many thousands of dollars a month.) Obama shifts costs to people. That is evil, because people can't afford those costs. That is NOT 'affordable' healthcare.

by architek 2008-04-12 04:39PM | 0 recs
You know Bush's 'medical savings accounts'?

They are so you can theoretically save the oodles of money you are saving on insurance TO COVER THE STUFF YOUR PLAN WONT COVER.. see how it works?

Of course, people dont have the money to cover those expenses..

Now, it doesn't matter, the wedge has already done its job, strip people of REAL healthcare...

Obama is planning to embrace and extend that
abomination.. or soon obamaination..

Hillary is planning - and HAS A PLAN, to END it.

by architek 2008-04-12 05:02PM | 0 recs
John Edwards....

Didn't he run for president a couple of times?

by ReillyDiefenbach 2008-04-12 01:56PM | 0 recs
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Thing is, Obama really is out of touch with small town America because he's never experienced it. He only knows middle and small town America by what he's read and what he's been told. I would venture so far as to say he probably never spent any time at all in small towns until he decided to run for president.

by jen 2008-04-12 02:31PM | 0 recs
He's missing out...

The quality of life in small towns can be very good...its what you make it. In cities, there is a lot of great stuff and its easy to get to, but in small towns, you and your friends can make your own music..

Each has its advantages and disadvantages..

by architek 2008-04-12 02:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards advisor slams Barack Obama on elitist

Obama's remarks were stereotyping to the nth degree.  It was a cultural insult, and it is and will be seen as such.  MSNBC doesn't speak to the heartland.

Obama and supporters would raise holy hell if he were treated like he just treated our rural heartlands.

The remarks were insulting.

by chieflytrue 2008-04-12 03:59PM | 0 recs
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Obama's remarks were yet another gutterball of his own making.

He shouldn't be the nominee.

by Sensible 2008-04-12 06:30PM | 0 recs


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