VP as Friday news dump?

Friday afternoon / Saturday news dumps are for:

- admitting you did funnel arms to the contras through Iran

- acknowledging that your White House leaked the name of the CIA agent

- releasing the records regarding the drunk driving charge and / or prostitution arrest

Friday afternoon / Saturday news dumps in August are for admitting the story in the National Enquirer is true.

So, please, single outgoing professional sincere question seeking single sensuous fun loving honest answer:

Why is the VP pick being released as a Friday / Saturday news dump in August?

Is this brilliant stategy? or, the kind of convention disorganization that gets you a 3 a.m. acceptance speech (been there/done that)?  Do we really want the first news of this to be spun by weekend morning MSM talking heads?


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Tips for a floor fight - NOT!

by kosnomore 2008-08-22 11:16AM | 0 recs
Re: VP as Friday news dump?

Why the circular firing squad? Why can't we, for once, not eat our own?

by BobzCat 2008-08-22 11:18AM | 0 recs
I'm suggesting he wait 'til Monday or the
convention - - it's so late already - - get max positive coverage / minimum third party spin.
Think of the ratings / viewership on the night it's announced on the convention floor!
Not circular firing squad - - positive discussion of different possible scenarios.  
Or must we cheer anythig anyway it's done, after it's done, without venturing any opinion in advance?  How boringly un-democratic!
by kosnomore 2008-08-22 11:24AM | 0 recs
if it goes to the convention

I'd think hillary.

I suggested wait until sunday after the talking heads

by TarHeel 2008-08-22 12:28PM | 0 recs
Exactly - do we want folks to hear it

from / as spun by Cokie, David and Chris?

by kosnomore 2008-08-22 12:43PM | 0 recs
if it's not biden

(or an amazing person like Webb)

the cokie roberts/ brooks axis of dweeble will savage the nominee....

at this point obama better pick biden or hillary or someone not in view like webb or schweitzer or the pundits will ridicule the pick

by TarHeel 2008-08-22 01:34PM | 0 recs
Re: VP as Friday news dump?

If I was Obama, I'd send out an e-mail right now that said:

"This is a test of the emergency VP Selection System. This is only a test. Had this been a real selection, all the mainstream media and blogosphere would've exploded. This is only a test."

by TCQuad 2008-08-22 11:19AM | 0 recs
Re: VP as Friday news dump?

Oh God.  That's good.  Now texting everyone I know with it.  Owe you one.

by fogiv 2008-08-22 12:27PM | 0 recs
Good point

this announcement surely won't garner much media attention.

by JJE 2008-08-22 11:22AM | 0 recs
Re: VP as Friday news dump?

The answer is, milk the McCain housing gaffe as long as possible. Then, at the end of the day, announce the VP pick, have the ticket appear together on Saturday, let everyone talk about nothing else on Sunday, and Monday open the convention.

Solid media coverage. It's Obama and the Olympics, and not much else.

But in the meantime, don't look a gift horse in the mouth. The McCain gaffes (and they keep coming) continue to show how out of touch he is on economic issues, which is Obama's theme of the week. Only fools would want to change the subject.

I thought you fancied yourself some kind of savvy political observer. You'd have to dig three feet under to reach this bar.

by BobzCat 2008-08-22 11:25AM | 0 recs
Thats what I'm saying - -

wait til Monday already!

by kosnomore 2008-08-22 11:28AM | 0 recs
Re: Thats what I'm saying - -

You don't give much of a compelling reason. Not a surprise.

The McCain gaffe will run itself out in another 24 hours. Dovetailing it with the VP announcement guarantees that the public's attention will be on the Democratic ticket through the weekend. Sunday's natterers get everything they need to off their chests so that they don't clutter the convention coverage with desperate attempts to sound informed and intelligent. The convention opens with the ticket in place, all emotional adjustments achieved, and the process of unifying the party already begun.

by BobzCat 2008-08-22 11:33AM | 0 recs
OK, but if it's Monday - - -

you can vacuum my car and clean the rims.  Deal?

by kosnomore 2008-08-22 11:34AM | 0 recs
Re: OK, but if it's Monday - - -

Announcing VP on Monday would kill the convention coverage or silence news of VP choice.

You want at least a full day of VP news before you go into the convention.

by GoldLame 2008-08-22 11:39AM | 0 recs
My guess is

if it is someone famous (Hillary etc.) it will be during the convention, if it's someone recognised, but not universally known, it will be today or early tomorrow. Gives the news orgs time to research and write up for Sunday.

If it's totally from left field, I haven't a clue.

by grass 2008-08-22 02:56PM | 0 recs
Re: VP as Friday news dump?

I have to agree with BobzCat (with the exception of the bitch slap at the end).

Perfect rollout leading up to the convention.

I can't shake the feeling that its going to be Clinton.  If the VP were going to be someone needing introduction - for the nation to get to know and the PUMA crowd to gather themselves - then such a selection would have been needed at the beginning of this week.

That's just my gut feeling, anyway.  You know, let the news orgs run some bios on the guy/gal before the convention.  So, I'd say, its Clinton or someone else with very high name recognition (on par with Gore or Kerry).

by GoldLame 2008-08-22 11:31AM | 0 recs
Re: VP as Friday news dump?
Yes I think you are correct on this Bobzcat. McCain has given us Manna from heaven. Let's be patient!
But not too patient. I can't take it. Ha ha
by canadian 2008-08-22 01:13PM | 0 recs
Re: VP as Friday news dump?

Didn't Clinton pick Gore on a Friday?  How did that work?  Did he win?  I can't remember.

by bottl4 2008-08-22 11:27AM | 0 recs
Re: VP as Friday news dump?

No Gore lost and its all because he was announced on Friday.

Its all Clintons fault don't you remember?

by dtaylor2 2008-08-22 11:30AM | 0 recs
Re: VP as Friday news dump?

Dtaylor, have you been drinking?

Did you read the post before you answered to something else completely?

by WashStateBlue 2008-08-22 12:26PM | 0 recs
Re: VP as Friday news dump?

WTF?  Your PUMA snark doesn't even make sense anymore.  Oh wait, it never did.

by fogiv 2008-08-22 12:29PM | 0 recs
Re: VP as Friday news dump?
And didn't they get an 11 point bump from that
by canadian 2008-08-22 01:15PM | 0 recs
Re: VP as Friday news dump?

Didn't Clinton pick Gore on a Friday?  How did that work?  Did he win?  I can't remember.

by bottl4 2008-08-22 11:28AM | 0 recs
Did he pick 'im on a friday?

Seriously, I always thought Friday was the "I hope the story dies by Monday" press conference day.

by kosnomore 2008-08-22 11:31AM | 0 recs
Re: Did he pick 'im on a friday?

Pay attention. Things aren't as you "always thought they are" anymore. I would say that the Friday before the convention is not a typical news day. And the way the Obama camp has milked anticipation for the announcement makes it hard to believe you could consider it a dump on a par with the atrocious examples you excavated.


by BobzCat 2008-08-22 11:38AM | 0 recs
LOLz - - -
"Things aren't as you "always thought they are" anymore."
Yes, now the sun rises in the west.
Despite the hype, this is a typical Democratic campaign in a 50/50 nation - - sorry.
by kosnomore 2008-08-22 01:07PM | 0 recs
Re: LOLz - - -

LOLz -- tipped your hand, there. That's exactly why it's foolish to even engage with you.

Oh, well. Everyone needs to feel important, I guess. Some more than others.

by BobzCat 2008-08-22 01:16PM | 0 recs
Re: VP as Friday news dump?

It's brilliant. He's all they're talking about. Baited breath.

The story gets boring the second he makes his pick.

It's annoying if you're a junkie, but fantastic if you are a partisan.

by Lettuce 2008-08-22 11:41AM | 0 recs
Foolish consistency = hobgoblin of small minds

You heard me.

by Dracomicron 2008-08-22 11:42AM | 0 recs
Re: VP as Friday news dump?

A normal friday you may be right. But the Olympics end this weekend so a lot of people glued to the tubes, And as Bobzcat says we are now in  the era of 24/7 news cycle.

I think if the story is big enough it stays through the weekend. Plus this will be all the Sunday pundits will be talking about.

by jsfox 2008-08-22 11:56AM | 0 recs
Re: VP as Friday news dump?

I don't get it.

It will get a lot of play but who will be watching with the weekend before some start school, and the Olympics coming to a close.

Why didn't he do it earlier this week, and dominate coverage for a few weekdays, and all weekend as well.

by RichardFlatts 2008-08-22 11:56AM | 0 recs
But you're missing the beauty of it

You're treating it like a press release.

Instead, imagine...

a million people will know, simultaneously. If you ride public transportation, you'll probably see someone get the news. If you're in a mall, you'll see several people get it. I GUARANTEE you, the name will be shouted in public venues.

2 million tweets are going to go out, within minutes.

Digg will go insane, as will reddit, as will every social news org. Every server on the internet will groan, trying to handle the rush of thousands of bloggers  - in a 3 minute window.

The radio will light up. And finally, FINALLY...

...some cable news producer will get it on air as BREAKING news. Then EVERY news org will run it. A year from now, people will remember where they were when the VP pick was announced.

That's not news, kosnomore, that's a cultural phenomenon on the order of Halley's Comet. It'll  be a circus, a meta-story, and it will probably eat all the news oxygen in the room.

It needs to happen over the weekend, because that's a frikken lot of attention to command at one time, an unprecedented amount really, and you want people feeling relaxed and groovy when you grab them.

by Neef 2008-08-22 12:14PM | 0 recs
What can I say
I love the Grand Gesture. Of course that's all moot since some staffer leaked it.
by Neef 2008-08-22 11:17PM | 0 recs
Maybe in time for the 6:00 p.m. news?

Then people can talk about it in bars and backyards all weekend.

by Liberal Monk 2008-08-22 12:36PM | 0 recs
Had Me ... Lost Me

I've been like everyone else, checking every 30 minutes or so since Wednesday seeing if Obama made his decision.

Now it is 4:30 on a Friday.  It is Miller Time!   Lemme know Monday morning who the lucky guy is.  Between running errands, getting the kids where they need to go, and playing 18 holes, I probably won't be keeping up with too much news.

by RichardFlatts 2008-08-22 12:37PM | 0 recs
Exactamundo chico!
Seriously. So I bet it's Monday.
And then all the folks telling ME it's a dumb idea will be applauding OBAMA's brilliance - LOL
by kosnomore 2008-08-22 01:09PM | 0 recs

the HRC story is getting twice as much play as the housing flap.  Paul Begala just went on CNN and said that Obama had disrespected her if the story is true, which is what Rush Limbaugh had said as well.  Leslie Sanchez was more than happy to oblige.

If Begala was willing to say that while serving as Obama's advocate, something is simmering in Hillaryland.

by Blazers Edge 2008-08-22 01:05PM | 0 recs
Is Hillary Gaming Obama

When it looked like it was clearly NOT Clinton, and probably Biden with a Thursday or Friday announcment, ahead of a Springfield photo-op on Sat., might have Clinton gamed Obama?

In light of this leak that Clinton was not even vetted ... not even given a polite look see ... might Obama be weighing what to do now?   Maybe he has to make an 11th hour switch and go with Clinton, or risk losing that 11% of Democrats that may be seriously seriously upset at this vetting (non vetting) story.

Could Biden end up looking like the date that got left behind at the dance?

I wonder.   Waiting this late to announce is bizaare.  What?  He is going to text message everyone 5 minutes before appearing with his pick tomorrow?

by dpANDREWS 2008-08-22 01:22PM | 0 recs


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