Edwards on Bill and Monica

Edwards on Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky:

"I think this President has shown a remarkable disrespect for his office, for the moral dimensions of leadership, for his friends, for his wife, for his precious daughter. It is breathtaking to me the level to which that disrespect has risen."

The Gospel according to St. Matthew - 7

1  Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2  For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3  And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4  Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5  Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Tags: Bill Clinton, John Edwards, Monica Lewinsky (all tags)

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Re: Edwards on Bill and Monica

Kos, did you really need to do this diary?

Why?  Are you STILL looking for the apology to the Clintons?

Do you think THEY are expecting an apology?

My take is NO ONE ON THE PLANET probably feels as bad for Elizabeth as maybe Hillary.

After all SHE has been through this, having her private life DRAGGED through the public eye?

My take is, Hillary is not thinking this is about her and Bill, tell me...

Are you thinking that is what this is about?

by WashStateBlue 2008-08-08 02:10PM | 0 recs
You excuse the sanctimony?

The sheer egotistical lack of concern for our party and our nation?  What if he had won the nomination?  We'd be screwed.  Sorry, but if you're going to join the republicans in trashing the democratic president for something you yourself do (instead of keeping your mouth shut and saying nothing), then keep it in your pants (and don't run for president).

by kosnomore 2008-08-08 02:20PM | 0 recs
Re: You excuse the sanctimony?

What if, what if, what if. It didn't happen so what's your point, other then to act the troll or stir up shit.

by venician 2008-08-08 02:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards on Bill and Monica

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

String him up!

by Jess81 2008-08-08 02:11PM | 0 recs
but Edwards wasn't in office

..apple and oranges.

by Al Rodgers 2008-08-08 02:16PM | 0 recs
Re: but Edwards wasn't in office

But it was someone from his campaign and while he was running for the office of President of the United States.

How about, apples and apple slices?

by TxDem08 2008-08-08 02:18PM | 0 recs
Re: but Edwards wasn't in office

But it wasn't with an employee.

by Jess81 2008-08-08 02:26PM | 0 recs
Re: but Edwards wasn't in office

Yes it was an employee-

by ExperienceCounts 2008-08-08 05:55PM | 0 recs
Re: but Edwards wasn't in office

Wow.  I guess you really don't know the story at all.

It was w/ an employee, someone who he paid a lot of money too, not just a staffer.  And if true about the kid, the affair continued after Elizabeth announced her cancer had returned.

How about apples and baked apple pie?

by TxDem08 2008-08-09 07:20AM | 0 recs
Re: but Edwards wasn't in office

Okay!  You're right, I'm wrong.

by Jess81 2008-08-16 05:49AM | 0 recs
Re: but Edwards wasn't in office

Elizabeth has cancer - in the eyes of the public, this could be seen as worse than Bill's scandal.

by mjc888 2008-08-08 02:28PM | 0 recs
Re: but Edwards wasn't in office

Why? Is McCain getting hell for having done the same thing??

by venician 2008-08-08 02:37PM | 0 recs
Re: but Edwards wasn't in office

He should on a scale of 100x's worse.  What he did was despicable.  I think he would be extremely wise to cut this story a wide swath or else get consumed by the fire of retribution for his past actions.

by TxDem08 2008-08-09 07:23AM | 0 recs
Re: but Edwards wasn't in office

+1

by TxDem08 2008-08-09 07:21AM | 0 recs
Re: but Edwards wasn't in office

personally, I would have suggested an apples and orange-juice comparison.

or perhaps an apple-pie and tangerines...

of course, the best comparison would be between a mango and ... yet another mango !

by SevenStrings 2008-08-08 02:50PM | 0 recs
Edwards

is scum, did you see that statement?

In 2006, I made a serious error in judgment and conducted myself in a way that was disloyal to my family and to my core beliefs. I recognized my mistake and I told my wife that I had a liaison with another woman, and I asked for her forgiveness. Although I was honest in every painful detail with my family, I did not tell the public. When a supermarket tabloid told a version of the story, I used the fact that the story contained many falsities to deny it. But being 99 percent honest is no longer enough.

I was and am ashamed of my conduct and choices, and I had hoped that it would never become public. With my family, I took responsibility for my actions in 2006 and today I take full responsibility publicly. But that misconduct took place for a short period in 2006. It ended then. I am and have been willing to take any test necessary to establish the fact that I am not the father of any baby, and I am truly hopeful that a test will be done so this fact can be definitively established. I only know that the apparent father has said publicly that he is the father of the baby. I also have not been engaged in any activity of any description that requested, agreed to or supported payments of any kind to the woman or to the apparent father of the baby.

It is inadequate to say to the people who believed in me that I am sorry, as it is inadequate to say to the people who love me that I am sorry. In the course of several campaigns, I started to believe that I was special and became increasingly egocentric and narcissistic. If you want to beat me up -- feel free. You cannot beat me up more than I have already beaten up myself. I have been stripped bare and will now work with everything I have to help my family and others who need my help.

I have given a complete interview on this matter and having done so, will have nothing more to say.

"But being 99 percent honest is no longer enough."

the balls on this scumbag are huge.

by Brandon 2008-08-08 02:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards

Why,why?!  Why do we (Men) continue to dig deeper holes for ourselves?

Admit it.  Embrace it, face the music.

Edwards:I did it.  I lied.  I've made amends w/ my family, I'm sorry that my shame will hurt them publicly and that they have to re-endure my weaknesses all over again.

I'm an asshole, and a jerk.  I love my wife and family and will live the rest of my days trying to make it right for them, and for those who believed in me.

That's all I have to say.

Us:That suck's, what an asshole and I feel sorry for the family.  Let's move on.
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It's really that simple.  But now with this apology, all we have is another Greek tragedy in the making.

by TxDem08 2008-08-09 07:33AM | 0 recs
What a hypocrite!

Well, a lot of people were having affairs among those who stood forth to criticize Bill Clinton.  Our culture is so sanctimonious that it virtually requires us to lie to each other, because we want what we want but we are NEVER supposed to admit it in public.

Compare us to the French.  If someone has a lover, it's no big deal.  Does that mean the French are less moral than we are.  No, it just means that we lie to each other more than the French do, that we are more sanctimonious, and that we are hypocrites.

I can't believe I am seemingly offering a defense of Edwards when my real purpose was to say, "I told you so," to those who thought Edwards was the "Second Coming of Christ".  

In fact he was lying to us about something that could and would have caused the Democrats to lose the election had Edwards been nominated. That's a sin!  I don't care about his stinking affair, but being willing to sabotage the Democratic presidential election out of what can only be egotism and selfishness was just plain wrong.  Think where we would be right now if we had nominated John Edwards!

by Manic Lawyer 2008-08-08 02:30PM | 0 recs
please go away.

by canadian gal 2008-08-08 02:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards on Bill and Monica

Meh.  Payback's a bitch.  Who really cares?

by username 2008-08-08 02:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards on Bill and Monica

The sanctimonious stuff I heard during the campaign, as an HRC supporter, was from Edwards supporters (or former Edwards supporters) - not from the early Obama supporters.  Long before the blogosphere became pro-Obama it was pro-Edwards and anti-Clinton mostly for the same reasons Edwards is being criticized today.  I never trusted Edwards, and now we all know why.

by alamedadem 2008-08-08 02:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards on Bill and Monica

to the point and true. it's ridiculous the sanctimony that was hurled at the clinton's in the 90s over affairs, and then again in the primaries - only this time from fellow Democrats!  just pathetic.

now -  sorry for this meandering comment, just wanted to get it off my chest....

my beef is with the sanctimony. the affair shit is solely between the couple. in Europe this sort of thing is rightly not an issue. wish the US would grow up. Reagan broke the divorce taboo, if Obama wins it'll just cement the drugs taboo being broken (of course Bush II was the first - no pot doesn't count). And GOOD on them! These moralistic taboos on the presidency distract from the real criteria for selecting a prez.

it's just a real shame that people are saying this Edward's affair would disqualify him from office. sleazy given the circumstances, but nobody's f'ing business.  it's a real shame that the US still holds so many silly taboos in politics.

by swissffun 2008-08-08 03:01PM | 0 recs
How about a diary...

detailing McCain's infidelities.

No, lets tear the party apart more by attacking our own to justify your membership, or empathy with the PUMA idiots.

Let's remember who the real enemy is!

by IowaMike 2008-08-08 03:18PM | 0 recs
So...

why are you throwing stones (at another dem no less)?

why aren't you turning the other cheek?

Are we being a hypocrit?

by IowaMike 2008-08-08 03:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards on Bill and Monica

This is a very stupid diary.  

And this diary contributes to the Dems winning in November in what way?

by snark adam excuse 2008-08-08 04:21PM | 0 recs
It isn't the diary that is the problem

it's Edwards' behavior that is the problem.  He couldn't keep it in his pocket and he lied about it.

I don't give a rat's what he does in his private life, but this is the reality of politics in Puritan America.  Unless, of course, you are a Republican.  

by Radiowalla 2008-08-08 08:02PM | 0 recs
Irony Alert

Quoting Matthew 7 to judge someone else for judging someone else is a tad, well, hypocritical, don't you think?

by Sumo Vita 2008-08-08 09:21PM | 0 recs

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