An example of everything that's wrong with our politics

Dick Gephardt, former House Democratic Leader, House Majority Leader and House Minority Leader is President and CEO of the Gephardt Group, a Washington lobbying firm that "provides strategic advice to clients on issues before the House, Senate and Executive Branch in the federal government."

The Gephardt Group just hired Dennis Hastert and his lobbying firm, Dickstein Shapiro, to assist on a $35,000-per-month contract for the government of Turkey.

Hastert used to be the Republican Speaker of the House.

"One issue Hastert and others lobbying for Turkey will have to deal with this year is a congressional resolution that defines the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians by Ottoman Turks in the early 1900s as genocide. The Turkish government opposes the resolution and has lobbied against it every time it has been introduced in Congress.

On the campaign trail last year, Barack Obama explicitly said the killing was genocide. But on a recent trip to Turkey, President Obama only said he stood by those prior statements. He did not use the word "genocide," angering some Armenian-American activists."

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/hast ert-contracted-to-lobby-for-turkey-2009- 04-10.html

When is the slaughter of millions of Armenians not genocide?

When you hire the former Democratic and Republican House leaders to lobby together on your behalf.

http://farrightdemocrat.blogspot.com/

Tags: Dennis Hastert, Dick Gephardt, genocide, Turkey. Armenia (all tags)

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and yet

Speaker Pelosi tried to push this through two years ago, only to be criticized by EVERYBODY, even those on the left, for giving in to "the Bay Area Armenian lobby" and risk causing a breakdown of relations with our closest Muslim ally.

by DTOzone 2009-04-11 02:46PM | 0 recs
Setting aside the issue involved . . . .
Gephardt and Hastert are working together for a foreign government !?!  
There's so much wrong in that.
by kosnomore 2009-04-11 03:00PM | 0 recs
Gephardt and Hastert

are private citizens, they are no longer members of Congress. They are free to work for whomever they want. Turkey is not an enemy government, they are an ally.

Your implication is that because they lobby for Turkey, that's why Congress won't recognize the Armenian genocide, except that Congress wanted to recognize the Armenian genocide and the Turkish government threatened to a diplomatic war.

by DTOzone 2009-04-11 04:30PM | 0 recs
35K Per month?

Shoot, these guys couldn't afford a phone call with Larry Summers?

He doesn't even burp for less then $43k?

Must be tough to realize, an entire country like Turkey's budget for marketing is less the CitiGroup can spend for ONE Larry Summers Speech...

by WashStateBlue 2009-04-11 04:31PM | 0 recs
OMG, KNM!

Did we just find common ground?  I don't get the random Obama dig -- do our leaders explicitly remind the Germans about Naziism every time they visit?   But our refusal to recognize the Armenian "can't call it a" genocide as such seems, at first glance, pretty stupid.  Among race-based mass slaughters, it was both big and recent.

However...  fun anecdote -- I once had a Turkish roommate who was usually polite and low-key, but would go batshit-crazy-nationalist if you mentioned Armenians or Kurds to her.  Loved metal, but wouldn't listen to System of a Down because the lead singer talked about the hated Armenians.  The lesson, I suppose, is that Turkish nationalism can be surprisingly strong, and hard for Americans (or at least me) to understand.  As silly as it seems, there's a real cost, in terms of pissing people off, associated with talking to Turkey about the Armenian genocide, and our leaders need to consider that.

by TexasDarling 2009-04-11 05:05PM | 0 recs
Dick Gephardt is a good man. Are you railing
here against Dick Gephardt or lobbying in general or because Gephardt is working Hastert?
What's your point? The last time I checked lobbying efforts are still constitutional. Unless Congress passes a law banning it (which may or may not be constitutional), Gephardt is doing nothing wrong.
by louisprandtl 2009-04-11 06:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Dick Gephardt is a good man. Are you railing

So you think legal and moral are synonymous?  If it's not illegal, do it?  I would hope our leaders' standards are higher than "well, if it's not a crime, I might as well . . ."

by kosnomore 2009-04-12 06:13AM | 0 recs
ok you're admitting that Gephardt had done nothing
that can be construed illegal..good..
However you think his actions are "immoral". Now do you have any proof that he or Hastert on behalf of the Govt of Turkey had made representation to the US Administration to refrain from calling the Armenian massacre a genocide? Do you have any specific proof that they had attempted to influence President Obama's speech in Turkish Parliament in any way? Now that would be an "immoral" action...
by louisprandtl 2009-04-12 10:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Dick Gephardt is a good man. Are you railing

So you think legal and moral are synonymous?  If it's not illegal, do it?  I would hope our leaders' standards are higher than "well, if it's not a crime, I might as well . . ."

by kosnomore 2009-04-12 06:13AM | 0 recs
Re: An example of everything that's wrong

The question is not whether it was a genocide, of course it was.  The question is whether forcing the issue at this moment in time is in our national interest, which I doubt it is.  It feels good to be bold and speak the truth and not give a damn about the consequences, but if it makes it harder for us to accomplish things that matter a lot more, I'd call that poor form.

On the general topic of lobbying for foreign countries, it's always made me a little uncomfortable, so yeah.  There was a pretty shady connection between Hastert and the government of Turkey that got discussed a lot on the liberal blogs a few years back and it was never really resolved satisfactorily.

by Steve M 2009-04-11 09:41PM | 0 recs
Re: An example of everything that's wrong

So, Obama stands by what he said. Good. That shows integrity. The path out of Iraq and Afganistan requires the airspace over Turkey, so Obama diplomatically chose not to use the G word explicitly. That's smart. And KNM is grasping at straws as always, which is pathetic.

Thanks for more examples of what's wrong with your entire thought process, KNM, but really - we get it. You can now go spread your gospel of Republican Obama hatred elsewhere, please.

by QTG 2009-04-12 06:02AM | 0 recs
Eactly!

I would SUCK being an actual politician, because someone like President obama DOES have to make pragmatic decisions, and some are morally offensives, but you weigh the downside versus the upside.

Hell, I would be hamstrung on day one...

For example, how do you deal with historical egrigious acts like how the Bureau of Land Management has abolutely ripped of generations of Native Americans for years?

http://www.indiantrust.com/

Would I love to see Obama make that right?

YES?

Would it be an incredible war in Congress right now, to even THINK about opening that can of worms.....

Sigh, I am best suited to be an old whiny fart on a blog, I would end up strangeling John Cornyn about 5 minutes into the first meeting.

by WashStateBlue 2009-04-12 09:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Eactly!

I have no idea what "Eactly!' means, but thanks for the rest.

by QTG 2009-04-12 12:49PM | 0 recs

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