The only thing that makes sense to me is that corporate Dems decided to shore up lagging downstate support for their pal Kirsten G by introducing the most vile Democratic creature available into the equation.
A lot of us don't want a second fiddle to Schumer. There were other more palatable alternatives to Gillibrand, but Obama and Schumer camps made them go away. This Ford may suggest some Obama weakness, but Schumer is not one to mess with. This is very weird and comes out of nowhere.
Ugh. Talk about missing the mark with this comment.
I'm one of those downstate NYers who's firmly NOT on board with Gillibrand because of her crappy center-right record when she was in the House repping a very center-right upstate NY district. You wanna know how to put downstaters like me squarely behind Gillibrand? Run Harold Ford. Like I, or most anybody else, give a rat's ass about a "liberated" or any thing else Harold Ford: He's got more baggage than she does!
And like downstate Dems give a rats ass about what the Democratic private equity investment community and/or my filthy rich/very unpopular mayor wants.
Paterson wanted someone from upstate. Fine. But to pick someone with all of two years service in the House? How can Paterson possibly claim she's the best person for the job? He may have just won over a bunch of upstaters and moderates with this obviously political pick, but NYC libs control the $$$ and they're gonna be POed! Paterson just left Gillibrand and himself open to primary challenges in 2010.
I should add. This came hot on the heels of NY Dems allowance of a third Bloomberg mayoral term, despite term limits, and +70% voter support for term limits. They allowed it because Paterson wanted them to allow it --because didn't want to face Bloombucks in the 2010 governors race.
I'll say, and not just to Killibrand. The NY Post suggests that Paterson just made himself a lot of intra-party enemies by passing over experienced downstate reps like Carolyn Maloney for this two-year veteran, and that he's now left himself open to a challenge from Andrew Cuomo. For once I agree with the Post.
"...putting myself in Barney Frank or Nancy Pelosi's shoes, I'd look at it this way: the Democrats could start over, with a bailout plan that is, say, centered on purchases of preferred stock and takeovers of failing firms -- basically, a plan clearly focused on recapitalizing the financial sector, with nationalization where necessary. That's what the plan should have looked like.
Maybe such a plan would have passed Congress; and maybe, just maybe Bush would have signed on; Paulson is certainly desperate for a deal.
But such a plan would have had next to no Republican votes -- and the Republicans would have demagogued against it full tilt. And the Democratic leadership cannot, cannot, be seen to have sole ownership of this stuff.
So that, I think, is why it had to be done this way. I don't like it, and I don't like the plan, but I see the constraints under which Dodd, Frank, Pelosi, and Reid were operating."
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The only thing that makes sense to this NYCer: Corporate Dems are floating this to shore up lagging support downstate for their girl, Kirsten.
Paterson is toast. All that remains to be done is explain that to Charlie Rangel.
Whoops, missed your post. Nail on the head, bruh3.
The only thing that makes sense to me is that corporate Dems decided to shore up lagging downstate support for their pal Kirsten G by introducing the most vile Democratic creature available into the equation.
A lot of us don't want a second fiddle to Schumer. There were other more palatable alternatives to Gillibrand, but Obama and Schumer camps made them go away. This Ford may suggest some Obama weakness, but Schumer is not one to mess with. This is very weird and comes out of nowhere.
He may be more where the middle of the country is but fortunately NY isn't in the middle of the country. And I don't think you're a NYer.
Paterson wanted someone from upstate. Fine. But to pick someone with all of two years service in the House? How can Paterson possibly claim she's the best person for the job? He may have just won over a bunch of upstaters and moderates with this obviously political pick, but NYC libs control the $$$ and they're gonna be POed! Paterson just left Gillibrand and himself open to primary challenges in 2010.
I should add. This came hot on the heels of NY Dems allowance of a third Bloomberg mayoral term, despite term limits, and +70% voter support for term limits. They allowed it because Paterson wanted them to allow it --because didn't want to face Bloombucks in the 2010 governors race.
I'll say, and not just to Killibrand. The NY Post suggests that Paterson just made himself a lot of intra-party enemies by passing over experienced downstate reps like Carolyn Maloney for this two-year veteran, and that he's now left himself open to a challenge from Andrew Cuomo. For once I agree with the Post.
Sing along with failsafe and the Hope Kids:
We're gonna spread hope,
We're gonna spread freedom...
etc.
Oh get a grip. This JA post isn't gonna make a bunch of Democrats vote for McCain. He's been even worse about the Big Bailout.
is just adorable!
pro-Bailout reasoning:
"...putting myself in Barney Frank or Nancy Pelosi's shoes, I'd look at it this way: the Democrats could start over, with a bailout plan that is, say, centered on purchases of preferred stock and takeovers of failing firms -- basically, a plan clearly focused on recapitalizing the financial sector, with nationalization where necessary. That's what the plan should have looked like.
Maybe such a plan would have passed Congress; and maybe, just maybe Bush would have signed on; Paulson is certainly desperate for a deal.
But such a plan would have had next to no Republican votes -- and the Republicans would have demagogued against it full tilt. And the Democratic leadership cannot, cannot, be seen to have sole ownership of this stuff.
So that, I think, is why it had to be done this way. I don't like it, and I don't like the plan, but I see the constraints under which Dodd, Frank, Pelosi, and Reid were operating."
Somehow, that rings a little true to me...
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