• on a comment on Miss Him Yet?! Part II over 3 years ago

    Oh please.

    If there's any group we are not in danger of our representatives legislating for, it's Muslims.

    How many are in Congress? How about State legislatures. Compare that to Christians or Jews. How much is the public clamoring for the Koran to be put into our laws? Compare that to the Bible.

    And lets face it, if the term "Jews" or "Christians" were substituted for "Muslims" in the cable news and talk radio discussions the last few weeks, there would be massive public outcry for the disgusting rhetoric. Yet it's ok somehow because Muslims are more hated.

  • Now who is going to protest the rebuilding of St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox church at the actual WTC site?

    After all, don't they realize that's the site that monotheists perpetrated the greatest terrorist attack on US soil?

    To paraphrase Sam Harris, the claim that the events of September 11, 2001, had “nothing to do with monotheism” is an abject and destabilizing lie.

  • on a comment on Miss Him Yet?! Part II over 3 years ago

    Christianity is a far more dangerous influence on Americans than Islam. There's not much danger of Muslims legislating their morality onto others in this country.

    This should be obvious.

  • on a comment on Miss Him Yet?! Part II over 3 years ago

    One of the great things about this country is that everybody gets to decide for themselves what religion they are.

    Obama says he's Christian, he's been attending a Christian church for 20 years, and thus, he's a Christian. Just move on, people.

  • Lemon:  Don't you think it's a bit different considering what happened on 9/11?  And the people have said there's a need for it in Lower Manhattan, so that's why it's being built there.   What about 10, 20 blocks . . . Midtown Manhattan, considering the circumstances behind this?  That's not understandable?

    Patel:  In America, we don't tell people based on their race or religion or ethnicity that they are free in this place, but not in that place --

    Lemon:  [interrupting] I understand that, but there's always context, Mr. Patel . . . this is an extraordinary circumstance.  You understand that this is very heated.  Many people lost their loved ones on 9/11 --

    Patel: Including Muslim Americans who lost their loved ones. . .

    Lemon:  Consider the context here.  That's what I'm talking about.

    Patel:  I have to tell you that this seems a little like telling black people 50 years ago:  you can sit anywhere on the bus you like - just not in the front.

    Lemon:  I think that's apples and oranges - I don't think that black people were behind a Terrorist plot to kill people and drive planes into a building.  That's a completely different circumstance.

    Patel:  And American Muslims were not behind the terrorist plot either.

  • Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, among others, has referred to the area around Ground Zero as “hallowed ground.”

    But for Chris, who declined to give her last name, and other dancers at the two strip clubs within three blocks of the World Trade Center site, the neighborhood is just where they go to work.

    “I don’t know what the big deal is,” Cassandra said. “It’s freedom of religion, you know?”

    Down on Church Street, one block east of the proposed Islamic center and two blocks from Ground Zero, men placed bets on horse racing at an Off-Track Betting facility. One bettor said he could see why the families of victims might get upset about the mosque and community center, but scoffed at the notion that the area around the betting parlor was hallowed ground.

    “The bums used to sit right in front of it,” he said of the Park51 location, which would replace a former Burlington Coat Factory store damaged in the terrorist attack.

    But if Ground Zero has been made sacred by tragedy, it’s hard to say the same for the Pussycat Lounge one block south of the site. The front entrance of the strip club and bar, which has been there for more than four decades, offers a clear view of the ongoing construction at the World Trade Center site. There weren’t many customers on Wednesday afternoon, when a television reporter stood in the middle of the street filming a report on the Park51 controversy.

    Inside, a bartender who said her name was Dasha offered brief remarks against the proposed Islamic center. She said she’s uneasy about organized religion in general.

    But Chris, the stripper who volunteered in the Ground Zero recovery, sat on a barstool in a tiny, shiny red dress and defended Park51. “They’re not building a mosque in the World Trade Center,” she pointed out. “It’s all good. You have your synagogues and your churches. And you have a mosque.”

    Chris said she lost eight friends on Sept. 11, 2001 — firefighters from the Brooklyn firehouse next to her home at the time. “The people who did it are not going to the mosque,” she said.


  • yeah, in a matter of a few weeks, the biggest stories in the Right-wing press were:

    1) evil Muslims trying to "conquer" Ground Zero,

    2) Evil Hispanics dropping babies for citizenship, and

    3) Evil Blacks like Sherrod hurting Whites and setting up Black Panther groups.

    See a trend there?

  • No one said, EVER, that all Muslims are terrorist, or that 1 billion Muslims supported the attacks. This is not about that.


    Except you just spent most of the diary trying to do just that (i.e. Sharia law, Muslims question whether Muslims did 9/11, etc). You WERE trying to connect the people, and Muslims in general to 9/11. You can't have it both ways.

  • This one is to be 2 blocks from Ground Zero. There is already one 4 bloack from it that nobody freaked out about, and there are other "non-desireables" the same distance away as this new one, 2 blocks, like a strip club.

  • People of religious faith,in all religions and all over the world, build places of worship wherever they live.

    Is it wrond for Christians to build churces anywhere that there didn't use to be Christians (like, all of the Americas,for instance)?

    Are you saying that there are no Mosques built anywhere that are for worship instead of statements of conquest?

    The fact that you could make such an easily debunked argument suggests that you are not thinking critically and are instead being ruled by emotion.

  • per Taleb's book "Black Swan", which is basically abount logical fallicies,

    Lets say there are 10,000 Islamic Terrorists around the world (a probably much too large estimate). That is still only a very tiny % of the total Muslim population, and it is therefore irrational to consider all Muslims of the same cloth as the terrorists.

    Again, it's a logical fallacy.

    Some Muslims are terrorists does not equal all Muslims are terrorists.

    You provide no evidence, none, zero, nada, that these people had anything whatsoever to do with 9/11.

    Do you hold other faiths to the same illogical standard? Is it wrong for Christians to build churches anywhere where Christians committed crimes (say, all of the Americas, the Holy Land because of the Crusades, Spain because of the Inquisition, or really anywhere else in the world)?

    But you are not using logic, you are using emotion and so you want to limit the peaceful practice of religion by innocent people.

  • You didn't read my comment, did you?

    I said that I think the poll should have another option that fits the situation better than the two options available.

  • The poll should have another option:

    "It's nobody's damn business if people practice their religion peacefully on their own private property."

  • comment on a post Weekly Jobless Claims Jump over 3 years ago

    Geithner claims that the newspaper gave the headline to that article without his approval.

    But anyways, yes it is a really bad idea for the  Administration to be acting like we are in a recovery right now. It's very much a "mission accomplished" moment.

    Too bad for the country (and Obama's presidency) that he listened to that idiot Larry Summers instead of Romer, Krugman, Stiglitz, etc

  • what about the hijackers?

    there are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world.

    It is simply not logical to assign some sort of blame or even a connection between 19 people who try to use a religion to carry out a political act and the 1.5 billion people who had nothing to do with that act.

    Again, it's actually illogical mathmatically.


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