Recount math looks great for Franken

NOTE: These numbers are all estimates, as I don't think anyone has a really firm grip of where things stand by now.

After the first day of the Canvassing Board hearing challenges, Al Franken is picking up a surprising amount of ground. The UpTake's Mike McIntee estimates that out of 160 challenges yesterday, the Franken campaign gained 27 votes, for a success rate of 17% That's very high, considering that most observers expected the vast majority of challenges to be rejected. What remains to be seen is whether Coleman will fare similarly well.

What nobody knows, of course, is exactly where we stood at the end of the first phase of the recount. Estimates ranged from a 192-vote Coleman lead to a 4-vote Franken lead. Team Franken has claimed that if all challenges were rejected, they would be up by 4 votes. If true, they now have a double-digit lead.

colemanlead-day13Coleman's "official" lead grew yesterday, because the board yesterday dealt exclusively with Franken challenges, the majority of which were overturned. Because the Franken challenges are all being handled first, expect Coleman's lead to skyrocket, and then plummet just as fast. His lead now stands at about 263, but that number belies a big problem.

If Franken continues to win challenges at the current rate, his remaining 300 challenges should result in about 250 more votes for Coleman, putting him at about a 450-vote lead. The problem with a 450-vote lead is that Coleman has challenged about 1,000 ballots. Even if Coleman wins 20 percent of challenges, that will result in a net gain of 600 votes for Franken. Coleman will thus need to have far greater success than Franken to remain in the lead.

Adapted from the Twin Cities Daily Liberal. There's more recount coverage at the Daily Liberal every day.

Tags: Al Franken, MN-Sen (all tags)

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11 Comments

Brilliant: Democracy in motion

I think this recount is going to set the gold standard in clean and responsible election handling, no matter which side wins.

The good news is that, even if Coleman should win, his prize is going to be an ethics investigation.

by Dracomicron 2008-12-17 04:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Recount math looks great for Franken

At the time of this posting, Coleman has picked up 132 votes, while the number of votes going to either Franken or "Other" (i.e. mostly tossed out) is about 100.  I think we can assume that most of the challenges were votes that were originally regarded as Coleman votes.  This means that Coleman has effectively lost around 100 votes so far.  It also means that Franken's successful challenge rate is somewhere in the 40 % range.  That strikes me as a very large number.  Yee haw.

by the mollusk 2008-12-17 06:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Recount math looks great for Franken

I was concerned that Coleman increased his lead yesterday and I didn't understand why other people seemed to be unconcerned.  This diary helped me understand my error.  Thanks.

by Steve M 2008-12-17 07:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Recount math looks great for Franken

Another thing, apparently some 4000 challenges have been removed, but have they been added back into the totals yet?

by Skaje 2008-12-17 10:13AM | 0 recs
Star Tribune Recount math looks even Better

Also see www.senaterecount.startribune.com/ballot s for the Star Tribune's estimates on the post recount totals. Including released challeges, they now estimate Franken to be up by about 275 votes!

by Hoomai29 2008-12-17 12:17PM | 0 recs
Re: Star Tribune Recount math Corrected URL

http://senaterecount.startribune.com/

AND the Star Tribune has dropped their projected Franken lead after the recount from +275 earlier in the day to +40 right now. Would be interesting to see if they just had a math error up there before.

by Hoomai29 2008-12-17 05:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Recount math looks great for Franken

Thanks for this fine explanation. You did better than anyone I've read at explaining it and you were concise and efficient. Awesome writing and great news!

by QTG 2008-12-17 03:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Recount math looks great for Franken

Fingers and toes crossed....!

by JenKinFLA 2008-12-17 04:48PM | 0 recs
We now have some better data

Franken challenged about 400 ballots. 300 or so Coleman and 100 or so others. From that he gained 60 votes or so mainly from the other and Coleman lost 40 or so votes from ballots previously allocated to him. So Franken had around a 25% success rate. The running totals most papers are showing reflect this as Coleman's lead has increased by about 200 to around 390.

Now the SOS has published the Coleman challenge list. It is over 1000. 900 challenges to Franken allocations and 100+ others. So if Coleman does as well in challenges as Franken did we can expect Coleman to gain 60 and Franken to lose 120 or so. This nets out to be a 720 Franken gain coming. 720 - 390 = 330 so Franken wins this round by around 330 which is in line with the AP and Strib projections.  

by Judeling 2008-12-17 11:18PM | 0 recs
Just watch it will be 27

Nate Silver's credibility would be legendary.

by Dracomicron 2008-12-18 04:30AM | 0 recs
Re: Recount math looks great for Franken

Ain't democracy grand?

by QTG 2008-12-18 04:20PM | 0 recs

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