A vent about some Obama supporters

Short and sour:  there are many Obama supporters to whom this does not apply but, jeez Louise, other than Ron Paul, I don't know as any other candidate, of either party, who has as many supporters who nearly deify their candidate on one hand and think that his or her excrement isn't excessively aromatic on the other.  Most people, supporting most candidates, can discuss pros and cons with some degree of objectivity.  

I detest "movement" politics and Obamas folks are reminding me why.  The combination of beatifying their candidate while demonizing their chief competitor is nauseating.  

And, qualitatively, the messianic passion reminds me of nothing so much as the McGovern campaign, 1972.

That is all.

Tags: 2008, clinton, Elections, obama (all tags)

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22 Comments

Re: A vent about some Obama supporters

Not worthy of being a diary.

Clearly you have not read the MyDD guidelines.

I could write a few diaries about Hillary Clinton supporters but choose not to do so out of respect for MyDD.

But you're right about this being "sour"...more like SOUR GRAPES actually.

by crackityjones 2008-01-27 04:00PM | 0 recs
Re: A vent about some Obama supporters

oh shush.

by MollieBradford 2008-01-27 04:02PM | 0 recs
Re: A vent about some Obama supporters

Um Be quiet Mollie.  He's 100% right.

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-27 05:18PM | 0 recs
Re: A vent about some Obama supporters

That's all you seem to say. SHUSH. Should Edwards jeep running? Shush. If someone counters a whiny diary - SHUSH.

Someone needs to some shushing and it's not the person you replied to.

by Pravin 2008-01-28 04:45AM | 0 recs
as I assess Obama

I try hard to separate what I hear from him directly from what I hear from some of his supporters.

Then again, this site has its share of Clinton supporters who don't make a strong case for their candidate (to put it mildly).

by desmoinesdem 2008-01-27 04:04PM | 0 recs
Re: as I assess Obama

and it's share of Edwards supporters who do not either.  In fact the earliest most obnoxious group of online supporters were Edwards people.  Now that he is losing and the group is smaller they are not nearly the mob mentality, troll hunting, ban happy jerks they used to be.

by MollieBradford 2008-01-27 04:12PM | 0 recs
Re: as I assess Obama

We have culled the Edwards supporters down into a tightly-knit group of thoughtful progressives.  It kinda seems like we were doing better when we had an unruly mob.

Why, you might say he's become the thinking man's candidate, in the Adlai Stevenson sense.

by Steve M 2008-01-27 04:59PM | 0 recs
Re: as I assess Obama

This is perfect example of the je pense, donc il est thinking of the cultural elite who actually prefer losing to winning since it validates their perceived superiority.  They prefer talking about change, theorizing about change to actually rolling up their sleeves to effect the change for those they claim to be fighting for.  They look at Edwards' woeful lack of fundraising as further proof of their correctness, just as every great film necessarily does poorly at the box office.  They are the ones who like to sprinkle their conversation with references to Preston Sturges, and yet don't have a clue what "Sullivan's Travels" is all about.

by Piuma 2008-01-27 05:27PM | 0 recs
Re: as I assess Obama

You're talking about me here?

by Steve M 2008-01-27 05:28PM | 0 recs
how woeful would Obama's fundraising be

if the media mostly ignored him and/or obsessed about how much he spent on a fancy suit or pair of shoes?

Consider Obama's comment late last year about how his most important foreign-relations experience was living overseas for four years as a child. What if the media had covered that the way they covered Howard Dean's comment in December 2003 about the capture of Saddam Hussein not making us safer?

by desmoinesdem 2008-01-27 05:31PM | 0 recs
Re: how woeful would Obama's fundraising be

You're mighty calm.  If someone told me I preferred talking about change to working for change, after I'd done as much work as you did this primary season, I'd want to punch them in the teeth.

I sure hope I wouldn't have become this sanctimonious if Edwards had won Iowa.

by Steve M 2008-01-27 05:35PM | 0 recs
Re: how woeful would Obama's fundraising be

But of course I wouldn't address that comment to her, it was addressed to you in response to your comment.  You can follow a thread, can't you?

by Piuma 2008-01-27 05:57PM | 0 recs
Re: how woeful would Obama's fundraising be

Unless your point was to demonstrate that Obama supporters are way too full of themselves, I can't imagine why you even wrote that comment.

I'm not sure I can see a difference between you and Joan of Arc at this point, except that she was probably a little more mature.

by Steve M 2008-01-27 06:14PM | 0 recs
Re: how woeful would Obama's fundraising be

Participation in an invitation to insult other people is not what I consider the hallmark of maturity.  But we don't see eye to eye on a number of matters.

by Piuma 2008-01-27 08:26PM | 0 recs
Re: how woeful would Obama's fundraising be

Seriously, I made a joking, lighthearted comment that had nothing to do with you, and you leaped into the conversation with a full blast of sanctimonious assholery.  That's damaged behavior.

by Steve M 2008-01-27 09:31PM | 0 recs
"Joan" of Arc?

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by Seymour Glass 2008-01-28 08:53AM | 0 recs
I have come to despise movement politics also
I was a Dean supporter and buy in to the whole grassroots 50 state strategy.  However when people can not objectively look at a candidate who is outside of their ideals of what a movement candidate  should be, they really become more of a liability to the party and victory than and asset.
This whole Obama youth movement is group think insanity.
by MollieBradford 2008-01-27 04:09PM | 0 recs
Re: I have come to despise movement politics also

I see some resemblence to the Dean supporters that were online 4 years ago. They were terrible. I didn't get a positive vision of the deaniacs until I met some of them in person here locally. Very nice people who are actively working to build the party. Something about being online brings out the worst in people I guess.

by Ga6thDem 2008-01-27 04:22PM | 0 recs
it also seems like groupthink to me

for some people, and it reminds me of the teenage Reagan supporters I didn't like in high school.

But at least the bandwagoning teenagers of today have better taste than they did in the 1980s.

by desmoinesdem 2008-01-27 04:46PM | 0 recs
Re: I have come to despise movement politics also

Says the Clinton worshipper.

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-27 05:20PM | 0 recs
Re: I have come to despise movement politics also

Nope, Mollie is not a Clinton worshipper. Mollie is smart enough to know that our favored candidates has faults just like the rest of us. Every Clinton supporter I've ever spoken with has something they don't agree with about Hillary, including me.  

She's far from perfect, but her knowledge and tenacity will be a huge step forward in getting this country back on the right track.

by Denny Crane 2008-01-27 07:27PM | 0 recs
Re: I have come to despise movement politics also

How many times have you criticised Hillary?

by Pravin 2008-01-28 04:46AM | 0 recs

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