Obama Was Right to Be Reluctant: Facts on 2002 Anti-War Rally

When you're giving a public speech -- especially when you're a politician preparing to run for national
office -- the venue matters as much as the message. Who's sponsoring the event? Who else is speaking?
By sharing the platform, might you be construed to be supporting someone you'd rather not?

Lost in all the second-guessing over how and why Barack Obama came to give his October 2002 speech
against the impending war in Iraq is this:

Who organized the rally?

Turns out it was organized by International A.N.S.W.E.R., now known as the A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition.
Founded a couple of days after 9/11, A.N.S.W.E.R. -- which stands for Act Now to Stop War and End
Racism -- was the dominant anti-war coalition in this country until late 2002.

On the day of Obama's now-famous speech, A.N.S.W.E.R. organized the first national demonstrations
against a war with Iraq, with major rallies and marches in Washington, D.C., and San Francisco, as well
as smaller events elsewhere around the country -- including the Chicago rally where Obama spoke.

What most people who turned out for these events did not know, unless they were veteran activists of the
radical left, is that A.N.S.W.E.R. was founded by -- and maintains deep ties to -- two Marxist-Leninist political
parties: the World Workers Party and, after a split in the WWP in 2004, the Party for Socialism and Liberation.

Surely, this is why Obama was reluctant to deliver his speech in October 2002 -- not because he didn't believe
in his message but because he didn't believe in the people providing the platform.

(The must-read analysis that explains what A.N.S.W.E.R. is really about is here. There's also a good primer here.)

My wife and I attended A.N.S.W.E.R.'s Washington rally and march in October 2002 -- on the same day that Obama
was speaking at A.N.S.W.E.R.'s Chicago event.

Having attended, in late 2001 and earlier in 2002, a number of New York anti-war rallies, marches, and events
where there was a strong A.N.S.W.E.R. presence, we had some idea what to expect from the D.C. event -- and we
were not surprised.

Although there were many good and well-meaning people in Washington that day -- people who were there specifically
to protest against the prospect of war in Iraq -- the event was also a magnet for every "Free Mumia,""Free Palestine,"
"Free Cuba," Emma Goldman, Sacco & Vanzetti, Marxist, Communist, Che Guevara, Black Panther, pseudo-revolutionary
cause de guerre you can possibly imagine. (If you were there or have attended other A.N.S.W.E.R. events, you know what
I'm talking about.)

A.N.S.W.E.R. encouraged this by giving all of these voices -- all of them -- equal time on the platform at the rally preceding
the march. By the time we had stood there for something approaching four hours of these speeches -- most of which had
zero to do with Iraq -- it's a wonder we could still remember why we had woken up at 5 in the morning and driven the
nearly 5 hours from New York to march on Washington.

It's reasonable to think that A.N.S.W.E.R. ran its Chicago event that day the same way -- and that Barack Obama,
having done his research, knew exactly what he was in for.

He knew that he had an important message to deliver on Iraq, but he also knew that, once he got to the rally, that
message would -- likely as not -- be sandwiched between advertisements for the Chicago Communist Party and latter-
day Black Power, Chicago-style.

Perhaps even more important, Obama knew that he could not afford to be seen as supporting the organizers of the rally,
people who, according to one analysis, backed the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre; portrayed reports of atrocities and
mass rape by the Serb forces during the Bosnian War as "imperialist lies"; helped found the International Committee to
Defend Slobodan Milosevic; and now openly support Kim Jong-il.

Surely, it is precisely because Obama's first order of business was to distance himself from A.N.S.W.E.R. that the very first
words out of his mouth in October 2002 were: "Let me begin by saying that although this has been billed as an anti-war rally,
I stand before you as someone who is not opposed to war in all circumstances."

I probably have some symapathy with a number of the leftist groups who were at A.N.S.W.E.R.'s Washington rally -- people
whose agendas were often, at best, periperipheral to the reason for the march. But do I blame Barack Obama for being wary
about giving his speech at a similar event organized by the same group? Absolutely not.

Was Obama looking for an "in" to David Axelrod? Who knows?

By far the more important point is that Obama had something on his mind that he knew had to be said, and that he
was determined to say it -- even if, by doing so, he put himself at risk of being associated with people that he found
politically and morally reprehensible.

Obama understood that, at the end of the day, his message on Iraq was more important than who was paying for
the megaphone.

Frankly, I can't imagine Hillary Clinton or John Edwards putting themselves on a Marxist-sponsored speaking platform
to say the right thing about anything -- even if they thought that doing so would get them one step closer to the
consultant they wanted. They simply wouldn't risk that much of themselves.

That Barack Obama did is just one reason why he has my vote and they don't.

Tags: 2008, ANSWER, Barack Obama, Iraq, president (all tags)

Comments

23 Comments

Not to mention...

His speech was basically..."I'm not anti-war, I'm anti-this war."

Nice diary.

by rashomon 2007-06-22 11:39AM | 0 recs
Re: Not to mention...
Right -- and thanks.
by horizonr 2007-06-22 12:03PM | 0 recs
The problem with

your scenario is that there is zero evidence for it.

Maybe you would have been reluctant.  That odes not eman Barack Obama was.  I don't even know if Obama was "reluctant."  The Tribune reporter who wrote a book presented that argument and asserted taht Obama spoke at the rally to curry favor with a contributor whom he believed could influcne Axelrod to work for Obama.

So even if what you say is true, how does it change the political calculation Obama supposedly made?  I did not understand the book to say Obama was pro-war or anything.  Only that he was more politically calculating than his supporters wish to believe.

You present a possibly pluasible defense to something that has not even been proven to have been a fact.  Axelrod denied the events or perspective placed on the events by the book.

Obama will speak to this at some point.  I will wait for that time.

by littafi 2007-06-22 11:56AM | 0 recs
Re: The problem with
Certainly, there is a speculative aspect to this. But the diary also introduces into
the discussion important information about the rally organizers and their rallies.
by horizonr 2007-06-22 12:51PM | 0 recs
That whole comment got screwed up

because I hit preview twice and I was unable to proof read it.  My point is that your defense is very speculative.  I am not sure any "defense" at all is needed.

by littafi 2007-06-22 11:57AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Was Right to Be Reluctant: Facts on 2002

I think the idea Obama would need to curry favor to get Axelrod's attention is beyond ridiculous.  Let's see, he a great speaker, intelligent writer, wonderful resume and personal history, good looking, young, well intentioned, in short he's a professional political consultant's dream.  If anything, it would be Axelrod looking for an in to Obama.

by Doug Dilg 2007-06-22 12:05PM | 0 recs
About those protests...

Brilliant point about the protest. I attended many 'anti-war' protests put on by ANSWER - and they are exactly as you describe. Every leftist group shows up at those things.

I remember scores of young Arab men with giant Palestinian flags, old Black Panther folks sitting at their booth, anarchists and communists of all varieties, the LaRouche zombies, radical animal rights groups, old hippies and young hippies, and a whole lot of pot smoking.

I also followed an anarchist Black Bloc contingent as they ran through the streets of San Francisco smashing windows and spray painting federal and corporate buildings.

It is understandable if Obama was hesitant to speak at one of these events. As for me, I had a hell of a time :)

by LandStander 2007-06-22 12:38PM | 0 recs
Formatting

p.s. - you should try and fix the formatting on your diary.

by LandStander 2007-06-22 12:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Formatting
How so?
by horizonr 2007-06-22 01:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Formatting

About half way through the sentences are broken up like this...

This sentence
should have conitnued on the last line but instead it continued on a
new line.

by LandStander 2007-06-22 01:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Formatting
Maybe your browser? Looks perfect on my iMac.
by horizonr 2007-06-22 01:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Formatting

My bad (stuck at work using IE, bet it looks fine on Firefox)- I wonder if I can troll rate this thread off of your diary? (if not, feel free to do so)

by LandStander 2007-06-22 02:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Formatting
With your permission, I'll try that -- cheers.
by horizonr 2007-06-22 02:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Formatting
Didn't work me -- perhaps you have to do it yourself?
by horizonr 2007-06-22 02:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Formatting

LOL - you need to rate me "0", not "1".
And you killed my Trusted User status!! :D

Please remove the ratings if you can.
Oh, and I apparently can't troll rate my own comments. So if some nice user wants to "0" the top of this thread, I am sure Horizonr would appreciate it.

by LandStander 2007-06-22 02:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Was Right

I'm inclined to agree with you -- although I also think we should resist the temptation
to look at "October 2002 Obama" through an "August 2004 Obama" lens.

My main point is that, (1) even if there were an Axelrod angle in the mix, that would
pale in comparison to the real significance of Obama's having said what he said at this
particular event, and that (2) it's hard to imagine Clinton or Edwards doing the same.

by horizonr 2007-06-22 12:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Was Right
Previous is to dougdilg.
by horizonr 2007-06-22 12:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Was Right

If we assume Obama knew something about ANSWER this is clearly true.  Whether or not Axelrod signed on, say Ryan doesn't flame out in early summer '04 and they are down to the wire in Oct '04.  You don't think Rove gets an ad made with the hold-down-lowest-key-on-synthesizer background music that says Barack HUSSEIN Obama supports anarchist vandals who spray painted a merry-go-round and kicked a bunch of babies?  And then another one with jungle drums where a white girl says she's got a crush on Obama and asks him to "call her"?

And I think Obama knowing ANSWER is also pretty darn plausible.  He ran in enough circles and organized with people in Chicago who would be able to fill him in.  And I had heard plenty about ANSWER at least by the following spring.  Certainly MRC was on the case by then:http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2003/cyb2 0030120.asp#2.  A person as smart as Obama could probably have figured it out in advance.  And even if he hadn't figured it out before the rally, he no doubt heard at least some of the other speeches.  

I think it's pretty clear that between the competing narrative advanced in this diary v. the Sun Times, this diary comes off as way more plausible. And I just don't but that anyone as bright as Obama (or Edwards and Clinton, for that matter) would approach this kind of event thinking solely about getting David Axelrod on board.  It seems like the Sun times just has a vendetta at this point.    

by msbatxnyc 2007-06-22 01:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Was Right

and by sun times I naturally meant tribune.

by msbatxnyc 2007-06-22 01:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Was Right

it would be wrong to assume that obama understand who and what answer is.  the anti-war groups in chicago are extremely isolated and quite a bit paranoid.  they do not communicate with outside groups until they are putting together a big event.  i suspect, but don't know, that this is the result of their paranoia, given chicago's history of police malfeasance.  i derive this from the rather huge police presence at any chicago anti-war event.  but many of the groups who have gotten involved with answer events were surprised by the pro-palestinian contigent, even shocked by them...

by bored now 2007-06-23 06:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Was Right

The repubs will bury him over the ANSWER connection.  My god, no wonder he didn't want to give that speech.

by Rt hon McAdder esq KBE 2007-06-22 02:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Was Right to Be Reluctant: Facts on 2002

We've had heated debates over International ANSWER (what does that stand for, anyway?) over at Daily Kos like every single time there's a war protest.

There's certainly a lot of people who want to protest the war but want nothing to do with "Free Palestine!" and all the rest.

On the other hand, no one else seems to be organizing the large-scale protests these days, which is a pity.

by Steve M 2007-06-22 03:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Was Right to Be Reluctant: Facts on 2002
A.N.S.W.E.R. = Act Now to Stop War and End Racism
by horizonr 2007-06-22 07:26PM | 0 recs

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