OBAMA - In His OWN Words; and Some History

Research for the quotes from Obama's books was done by the very erudite Mike Howell at NO QUARTER Admittedly I personally have not read Obama's books, but has read excerpts on the net

Progressives boast they are the REALITY based people in politics. Obama supporters also claim to be part of the REALITY based community. The porcine shaped evil one, Karl Rove, unfortunately, is not justifiably incarcerated. Many of us realize Rove has spent the past months preparing strategic plans to use against the Democratic Presidential nominee in the General Election. Rove himself provided a preview of his intentions in a WSJ Op-ED the day after the NH primary.

Even Worse, Karl now has a national media platform on Faux News.

Any good Political Consultant, or Lawyer, agrees that the best way to dull the impact of the oppositions dramatic revelations, is to get it out in the public first, and making it old news. This post is an attempt to do just that.

Obama's own words impart a look at his perception of American life, culture, and Politics.

In Obama's book, DREAMS OF MY FATHER..

*  "I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER'S RACE"

*  "I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites"

*  "That hate hadn't gone away," he wrote, blaming "white people -- some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives."

However, while campaigning in Kansas, Obama frequently emphasized that his mother was white, and that he had grown up in a predominantly white world.

*  (Obama) vowed that he would "never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela."

According to Colonel Ray, at Huffington Post,  Barack's father was a Muslim economist from Kenya. Before marrying Ann Dunham, Obama's father was married at the age of 18, to a Kenyan woman, with whom he had seven children.

Steve Sailor, uncovers the identity of Obama's half brother Mark, who is the son of Obama Sr. 3rd wife, Ruth. The post includes a great genalogical family tree. Mark is noted as disagreeing with Baracks emotional attachment to his black roots vs. his white heritage.

*  "I was trying to raise myself to be a black man in America, and beyond the given of my appearance, no one around me seemed to know exactly what that meant." Honolulu's paucity of African-Americans meant he had to learn to be black from the media: "TV, movies, the radio; those were places to start. Pop culture was color-coded, after all, an arcade of images from which you could cop a walk, a talk, a step, a style."

*  About student life and race at Occidental College  Obama wrote "There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs," he wrote. "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names." He added: "To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."

*  While in college, Obama wrote(he) disapproved of what he called other "half-breeds" who gravitated toward whites instead of blacks.

Again, from Colonel Ray

"And after college, he once fell in love with a white woman, only to push her away when he concluded he would have to assimilate into her world, not the other way around. He later married a black woman."

*  After making his first visit to Kenya, Obama wrote of being disappointed to learn that his paternal grandfather had been a servant to rich whites. The revelation caused "ugly words to flash across my mind. Uncle Tom. Collaborator. House nigger."

Obama's half sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng with whom he is very close, answered a question about Barack's Race Identity this way:

Q.     Do you think of your brother as black?

A.     Yes, because that is how he has named himself. Each of us has a right to name ourselves as we will.

Obama has never recanted what he wrote, although in his 2004 Senate Race he admitted "Certain passages have proven to be inconvenient politically."

In Dreams Obama wrote

*  "The person who made me proudest of all, though, was half brother Roy. He converted to Islam."

Classmate Rony Amiris describes young Barry (Barrack Obama) as enjoying playing football and marbles and of being a very devout Muslim. Amiris said, "Barry was previously quite religious in Islam."We previously often asked him to the prayer room close to the house. If he was wearing a sarong he looked funny," said Rony. Amiris now the manager of the Bank Mandiri, Jakarta, recently said, "Barry(Obama) was previously quite religious in Islam.

Obama's half sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng who describes herself as a Buddahist, stated "I don't want to deny Islam. I think it's obviously very important that we have an understanding of Islam, a better understanding. At the same time, it has been erroneously attached to my brother. The man has been a Christian for 20 years".

In yet another interview, Maya states "My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim"

Obama did convert to an Afro Centeric form of Christianity at Trinity United Church of Christ in South Chicago, when he was 26 years old. Peter Hitchens, of London's Daily Mail describes Trinity United Church:

It is pretty radical.

The parish magazine is full of fierce denunciations of the American government's failure to fight AIDS. A large chunk of the sermon was devoted to urging black Americans not to allow themselves to be relegated to second-class citizenship.

The retiring Senior Pastor, Jeremiah Wright (who brought Obama to Christianity), is famous for preaching in African robes. He is also noted for his Church's "disavowal of the pursuit of middle-classness" which sets it apart from many black churches.

Those who achieved success in the American mainstream, Trinity urged, should avoid the "psychological entrapment of black middle-classness that hypnotizes the successful brother or sister into believing that they are better than the rest and teaches them to think in terms of we or they instead of us!"

Trinity says it is "unashamedly black and unapologetically Christian". And so it is. A male choir in smart suits sings and sways and on the night I visited, a charismatic preacher, Pastor Otis Moss III, expounded from Exodus with wit and power.

In Obama's book THE AUDACITY Of HOPE

*  He wrote "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

The premier expert on Foreign Affairs and Intelligence, Larry Johnson informs us Obama has involved himself into the tribal clashes now occurring in Kenya. Please read the whole thing, including the well informed comments by other Intelligence Officials.

The opposition leader in Kenya, Raila Odinga, is Obama's cousin. Kenya's tribes-the Luo and Kikuyu-are killing each other over a disputed election that Odinga claims was stolen from him. Prior to the election in December 2007, Odinga wrote a letter to Kenya's pro-jihadist National Muslim Leaders Forum. There he pledged that if elected he would establish Sharia courts throughout the country; enact Islamic dress codes for women; ban alcohol and pork; indoctrinate schoolchildren in the tenets of Islam; ban Christian missionary activities, and dismiss the police commissioner, "Who has allowed himself to be used by heathens and Zionists.".

Obama's campaign sent former Clinton Aide, Dick Morris to Kenya to help out Barack's cousin, Odinga. AFP news service details the conditions on the ground as of the first of February 2008.

The information in this post brings the following up for discussion:

*  Obama grievances against the white race, and his struggles to learn how to be "black" while growing up.

*  Obama's father was a Polygamist and Obama has several half siblings. One of the Family Lawyers, commenting, will have to expound on whether Obama's mother and Obama Sr's 3rd wife, Ruth, needed to get a legal divorce, as their marriages were not recognized under American Law. Both ladies did go through some court process, in order to remarry.

*  Obama himself was of the Muslim faith until he was 26 years old, then he converted to an Afro-Centric form of Christianity that is still considered well outside of the `mainstream'.

*  Obama has involved himself in the Kenyan conflict to help the opposition leader, Odinga, who is his cousin.

Karl Rove, and Bill O'Reilly must be beside themselves, planning exclusive "BREAKING" news stories. Imagine Obama's former Muslim classmates, his Occidental College buddies, his Minister or a surrogate, and his cousin Odinga on Fox News for exclusive interviews. Every other media will pick it up, and on this information alone, they would have enough to play up until the General Election.

Add to this Fox's FACT Challenged reporting techniques, and implying Obama has ties to Auchi through Rezko, as done in this blog

If Progressives do not get out in front of this, we can all say HELLO to 100 Year War President McCain come January 2009.

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Comments

24 Comments

Re: OBAMA - In His OWN Words; and Some History

"Obama himself was of the Muslim faith until he was 26 years old"

Where did you get this bullshit.  That is absolutely false.

"Barry(Obama) was previously quite religious in Islam."

When he was 8 years old??? Oh yeah, this is credible.  How old was the other guy, 7???  Please.

"Every other media will pick it up, and on this information alone, they would have enough to play up until the General Election."

You give Fox way too much credit.  They already
broke" this story.  Remember?

by pg4obama 2008-02-11 02:36PM | 0 recs
Re: OBAMA - In His OWN Words; and Some History

Read the links in the Diary.

Obama's sister Maya said in an interview IIRC The New York papers, that Obama has only been a Christian for 20 years.

by Grandma M 2008-02-11 03:56PM | 0 recs
Hide-rated for outright lies and smears

I looked at the "evidence"
Half of your citations are from an anonymous "Colonel Ray" commenter at the Huffington post. I have to tell you, blog posts are not very reputable citations.

The citation from an actual newspaper is clearly misleading - its clear that the "My whole family was Muslim" quote refers only to her parents if you actually read the context.

The only question is if you actually believe this junk or you're trying to make Clinton look bad by pretending to support her with this.

by MILiberal 2008-02-11 04:08PM | 0 recs
You imbecile

Have you considered that he had no dedicated religion at all after he came back from Indonesia and before he became a Christian?  That was in the book too, you idiot.  Sure you cannot be that obtuse.

by pg4obama 2008-02-11 07:15PM | 0 recs
Re: OBAMA - In His OWN Words; and Some History

Wow - this is terrible, even coming from what is now MyDLC aka, Hillary Central.

Somebody should remove this post b/c I'm tired of hearing about how Obamafans have nothing but hate for Hillary and that somehow Hillary is the victim of the vitriol from the blogosphere.  

This is a series of snippets chosen from two amazing books similar to what O'Reilly did with DailyKos not so long ago.

by spmaverick01 2008-02-11 02:37PM | 0 recs
Re: OBAMA - In His OWN Words; and Some History

OMG quotes of our candidate with citings how can we spin that?

I know lets just try and call it ugly and not address the issues involved at all.

by sonofdonkeykong 2008-02-11 02:41PM | 0 recs
Re: OBAMA - In His OWN Words; and Some History

Really important for me to defend "Obama's cousin" in Kenya and his policies.  

Y'all should also post that Obama's Cousin was the architect of a failed foreign policy and war that Hillary gave the go-ahead to.

by spmaverick01 2008-02-11 02:44PM | 0 recs
Re: OBAMA - In His OWN Words; and Some History

Do you have links?

by Grandma M 2008-02-12 06:53AM | 0 recs
Re: OBAMA - In His OWN Words; and Some History

What exactly do you think Karl Rove and Fox will be doing. I stayed on fact - and I did NOT write the books.

by Grandma M 2008-02-11 04:00PM | 0 recs
Re: OBAMA - In His OWN Words; and Some History


Look,i dont support Obama in this primary but i will be damned if you are going to peddle lies and innuendos about OBAMA and his relation with the Kenyas opposition. For your information, the documents alleged to have been from Odinga regarding sheria laws in kenya have been proved to be falsified and do not hold any basis whatsoever, so stop right there.

I am of the opinion that this tactic will not work to derail Obama,s political development but the only way to counter him is to expose him as talk and no substance which will eventually work in Hillary,s favour.

by abudho 2008-02-11 03:03PM | 0 recs
Re: OBAMA - In His OWN Words; and Some History

Do you have links  for what you say?

by Grandma M 2008-02-11 04:01PM | 0 recs
Re: OBAMA - In His OWN Words; and Some History

I am no trying to derail Obama. I AM, as I said, hoping progressives will get out in front before Karl Rove and Fox make it much much worse.

by Grandma M 2008-02-11 04:02PM | 0 recs
Re: OBAMA - In His OWN Words; and Some History

Please read it all carfully. Part os this information ia laread posted on right wing blogs!

THINK about the information Karl Rove MUST already have.

If WE, the Progressives, do not get out in front of this, then ANY credibility the Progressive blogosphere has will be totally trashed.

And if you think we won't lose Net Neutrality if we DON'T discuss this, then whatever anyone is smoking or drinking is pretty potent stuff.

by Grandma M 2008-02-12 06:57AM | 0 recs
Re: OBAMA - In His OWN Words; and Some History

This mess:
Part os this information ia laread posted on right wing blogs!

Should read:

Part of this information is already posted on right wing Blogs!

My bad - sorry.

by Grandma M 2008-02-12 06:59AM | 0 recs
Just no.

Using blog comments as citations alone are quite questionable. Right wing blogs... I don't even want to think about it.

by MILiberal 2008-02-12 10:34AM | 0 recs
Again with the attack that Barack is Islamic?

Haven't we dispelled this rumor enough?

Stop watching the O'Reilly Factor?

I'll go even further -- SO WHAT IF HE WAS ISLAMIC?

What does that mean, huh?
Islamic people are allowed to practice their faith, ANYWAY.

This makes my blood boil.

Thank you for trolling.

by MrMacMan 2008-02-11 03:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Again with the attack that Barack is Islamic?

You are being either terribly naive or totally disingenuous if you think it DOESN't Matter to a large part of the uninformed American voting public. Even more importantly to the Rove controlled News Outlets.

Here is just one Comment from an article about Obama .

I urge this publication NOT to delete this important information. It has come to my attention that the Obama camp is scrubbing the net of telling information about Obama. It is vital for the American public to have access to this information. 'Christian Reader', how can you attack this publication and term the information in this article 'unchecked' and 'filth'? Most of the informaltion comes from Obama's own books! I would advise anyone considering this man for the presidency to study the above information carefully. For instance: "Obama's stepfather was a practicing Muslim". It was to Lolo that I turned to for guidance and instruction, Obama recalled.In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school, he wrote in his first memoir, Dreams from my Father.

Juan Williams of NPR

"He comes from a father who was a Muslim", said civil rights author Juan Williams of National Public Radio. I mean, I think that given were at war with Muslim extremists, that presents a problem

by Grandma M 2008-02-12 07:30AM | 0 recs
Re: OBAMA - In His OWN Words; and Some History

Trash.

by cgvcu 2008-02-11 03:18PM | 0 recs
Having actually read Dreams from my Father

I have to say that it is an excellent book that I would recommend to everyone.

Your diary, on the other hand, is a competitor for Worst Diary Ever (if such a title can exist.)

Even ignoring the fact that all these are taken out of context, you're just being blatantly racist and discriminatory by accusing Obama of being Muslim and implying that its a bad thing.

by MILiberal 2008-02-11 03:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Having actually read Dreams from my Father

As stated at the very Beginning of the diary - NO I haven't read Obama's books. Professional's I know who tried to, didn't finish them.

YOU are definitely missing the Point. It's what the Rove smear machine will be doing once they crank up.

Please get grounded for just a minute and THINK about it.

Further, you do not know me, and for years I have had Muslim students living in my house.

Watch your rabid reflex to smear without knowing the FACTS!

by Grandma M 2008-02-12 07:35AM | 0 recs
Re: OBAMA - In His OWN Words; and Some History

I've read both of Obama's books.  There's no question that he is a committed Christian and that he is an excellent smart author, which you definitely are not.  I feel sorry for you.  What are you doing here?  This is truly disgusting.

by FarWest 2008-02-11 05:02PM | 0 recs
Re: OBAMA - In His OWN Words; and Some History

Sources please.

by MrMacMan 2008-02-11 07:10PM | 0 recs
Re: OBAMA - In His OWN Words; and Some History

Read the links in the diary. Dick Morris was sent by Obama's campaign to Kenya. Read the entire link on this subject, because over 1,000 people died already.

by Grandma M 2008-02-11 11:41PM | 0 recs
Re: OBAMA - In His OWN Words; and Some History

If you bother to link to Larry John's post you will find several sources.

READ before responding!

by Grandma M 2008-02-12 07:38AM | 0 recs

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