instead of people viewing the 3rd parties as a threat we should look at them as the "minor leagues"...promote a feww third party progressives into local office to being to form a support network for more progressives on the left of the aisle

then and only then will this party be worthy of a vote

Regardless though, Lieberman's cottails may provide us with some Joementum needed to oust Shays/Simmons/Johnson... atleast the first 2... sighs. Relying on Lieberman, sad.

That isnt to say that trying to take out Dems in primaries with candidates that have a good chance of winning against Republicans is a bad thing.  We are not at the point of political parties not mattering and this is not the time to play games.  To really contemplate 30% of the vote in a presidential election as some sort of accomplishment is the same as cheering on McCain for president.  Give them 4 more years and there won't be elections in 8...that will all be quaint pre-9/11 bullshit.

And run good, clean, issue based primary campaigns, and support the non-GOP winner of the primaries. That's the mantra that'll work.

That's the only effective way to weed out the non-progressive elements of the democratic party, and to maximize the facilitation of progressive policy.

Any attempt to divide the party in general elections will simply be Naderist exercises in futility and worse yet, subversion of our common causes.

An exception to this rule are those that conjured up, promoted, and have been trying to propagate the unwarranted war. They must be challenged and defeated by whichever democratic way there exists.

Merely voting for the IWR  in not a promotion of the war, but authoring and sponsoring it is, IMO.

Your electoral claims regarding a "Nederesque challenge" in 2008 are mere exaggerations.

• Kerry knows his role;
  
• Edwards knows his role;
  
• Gore knows his role; and . . .
  
• Lieberman.

I don't think that what you suggest is the smartest tactic.  There's gotta be a much better way to get the two Dems you mention -- and others like them -- to see the error and cowardice of aligning themselves with Bush & Co.  However, as we know, negative tactics like the ones you describe tend to suppress voter participation, rather than increase it; accordingly, the very voters you'd want to get out in support of a progressive candidate are the ones that would be likely to remain at home as a result of what you describe.

We get the message, thank you. There is a world of green blogs you can spend more time on.

People who support the Greens are just as bad as Republicans IMHO. They're just a little more naive.