indeed I guess if we all hadn't see the You tube of the Florida democrats LAUGHING at Howard Dean and the DNC as the legislature moved the primary,

just maybe we would believe it was all the Republicans fault.

Representative Brown was great on C-span. C-span is great.

She was great!

Actually Clinton supporters in FL opposed the revote too.  Florida's revote didn't happen for these reasons:

1: There was little interest in Florida's government for this to happen.

2: Clinton wasted a lot of time fighting against the revote and only started pushing for it at the last possible second when it became obvious that she wouldn't get the sham elections to count.

3: Florida didn't have working voting machines at the time due to a pre-November switchover so they'd have to change to a vote by mail system that would have to be cleared by the DoJ.

Why didn't MI get a revote?  2 above is relevant but also the fact that a revote would require a supermajority in the state legislature and the Republicans were going to vote against it.  The funding was also going to be an issue.  

Waiting until the very last second and then trying to get a revote is a disingenuous tactic.  

Every single Democrat in the Florida legislature voted against this Republican Bill.

of times.  She's a pretty poor spokesperson.  Here's her wiki entry = Complaints and investigations
Controversy has followed Brown since the start of her national political career, from her actions while a state legislator.[6] The Florida Ethics Commission fined Brown $5,000 for using legislative employees as dual employees of her travel business.[6]

A few weeks after becoming a member of the U.S. House in 1993, the Federal Elections Commission began investigating her. Her former campaign treasurer quit and said Brown had neglected to take action against an aide who had committed forgery, forging the treasurer's signature on her financial documents. The staffer alleged to have forged the treasurer's signature stayed with Brown and as of 1998 was her chief of staff.[6] In 1996, there was another investigation concerning charges that Brown improperly received and spent a $10,000 check from a secret account used for money laundering by National Baptist Convention leader Henry Lyons.[1] Brown admitted receiving the check but denied she had used the money improperly.[1] She was accused of not reporting the check or reporting who she received the money from. Brown said that she had taken the check and converted it into another check made out to Pameron Bus Tours to pay for transportation to a rally she organized in Tallahassee. She said that she didn't have to report the money because the rally was to protest the reorganization of her district lines, and she did not use it for herself.[1] If the $10,000 gift had been reported, it would have exceeded the $1,000 individual donation limit.[1]

Brown had had previous dealings with Lyons; in 1992, her campaign paid $5,000, allegedly for a computer, to a company owned by Lyons. The company had shut down six years earlier.[6] Her office once arranged for Lyons to buy several airline tickets at the government discount rate.[6] Under Congressional rules, only members of Congress and their staffers are allowed to take this rate.[6]

On February 25, 2004 Brown referred to the George W. Bush administration as a "racist" "bunch of white men" in a meeting with senior State Department officials and members of Congress.[7] Assistant Secretary of State Roger Noriega, a Mexican American, said that he deeply resented "being called a racist and branded a white man." Brown replied to Noriega and Cuban-American Representative Lincoln Diaz-Balart that "you all look alike to me". Brown later apologized for her statements, but still contends that President Bush's involvement in the 2004 Haiti Rebellion was racist.[citation needed]

[edit] Ethics involving daughter
On June 9, 1998, the Congressional Accountability Project filed an ethics complaint against Brown. The Project called for the U.S. House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct to investigate several violations of House Rule 10.[8] One of the complaints was that Brown's daughter Shantrel, a lawyer who worked for the Environmental Protection Agency in Washington, had received a $50,000 Lexus LS 400 automobile as a gift from an agent of a Gambian millionaire named Foutanga Sissoko. Sissoko, a friend of Congresswoman Brown, had been imprisoned in Miami after pleading guilty to charges of bribing a customs officer. Brown had worked to secure his release, pressuring U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno to deport Sissoko back to his homeland as an alternative to continued incarceration. The Project held this violated the House gift rule, but Brown denied she had acted improperly. The congressional subcommittee investigating Brown found insufficient evidence to issue a Statement of Alleged Violation, but said she had acted with poor judgment in connection with Sissoko.[9][1]

In June 2007, Citizens for Ethics released a report reporting Brown's daughter Shantrel Brown-Fields as a congressional lobbyist; the organization maintains that Congressional relatives working as lobbyists for special interests are a conflict of interest for lawmakers. Brown-Fields is employed by Alcalde & Fayte, with clients including ITERA, Miami-Dade County Commission, and Edward Waters College. In 2006, Brown's campaign committee paid her daughter's husband, Tyree Fields, $5,500 for political consulting work. Rep. Brown has earmarked millions of dollars in federal funding for her daughter's client Edward Waters College.[10]

go back to ReThugland!

and take the word "dog" out of your username, it is an insult to all dogs!

"It is clearly time to get the DNC back from cultists, and into the hands of the democrats."

fuck you asshole, we aren't cultists, WE ARE DEMOCRATS.

the mods need to ban this piece of shit diarest for calling good loyal Democrats "cultists."

#1 - why did obama work to ensure that alice palmer and other opponents of his were kept OFF the ballot in his initial state senate run? Why not just allow the voters to choose?

#2 - if obama did not like the results in MI/FL then why did he not support a revote in both states that could have taken place and counted prior to this?

how can a candidate run as a "new" politician of hope and change only to base his nomination and wins on the disenfranchisement of voters?

if you troll rate me, I will troll rate you back.

legislation and voting for it overwhelmingly is not the way to stop the legislation you disagree with...

ABSOLUTELY KUDOS.  Just waking up to coffee, so this is much appreciated.

ABSOLUTELY KUDOS.  Just waking up to coffee, so this is much appreciated.

  ...that you get your facts striaght BEFORE you shoot your mouth off. I was born and raised in Florida, & I've been following this whole sad, sorry clusterf%^k since day one. Many Democrats here were perfectly happy to go along with the Republican plan, and many voted for it. Your assertion that the FL Dems "could do nothing about this" is either wishful thinking, or plain ignorance. As to my being a "cultist" because of who I support for President, well, you are entitled to your own opinion; but here's a fact for you: SHE LOST! Deal with it.

So, I take it then that you disagree with Sen. Nelson's comments, when he said that a live re-vote could not be conducted (machines were being re-tooled) and a mail-in revote was not feasible due to multiple issues?

Typing things in caps does not make them so.

Actually, I think Obama wanted a caucus.

to take you seriously when you call people cultists.

Someone tell me who rec'd this garbage from a GOP troll.

I recommend everyone to click Dogkings name and read his previous diaries.

We should be embarresed that this is on the rec list.

I can understand stuff from Alegre getting on the rec list. She's intellectually dishonest, but she has plenty of "fans" here and she gets the Tinfoilis44 crew to prop up her diaries.

But this....this is just garbage. One look at his diary history would show just how much of a GOP shill he is, if it wasn't already obvious.

But, I guess some people are impressed with anything that conveys "BARACK OBAMA IZ TEH DUM" in it's message.

Anyone who rec's this should be utterly ashamed of yourself. Go sign up on NoQuarter or Redstate so we can be spared your narrow mindedness.

Sorry to slam your hero, you swill sucking GOP troll.

Learn how to edit a diary, fuckwad.

shown ANY genuine leadership regarding this issue of voter alienation in Florida and Michigan?   I'm asking because frankly, I find his whole attitude about this rather cool and detached.

Your welcome. Now take the hint and go McBlog elsewhere.

He calls people fascists, and this is worthy of a Mojo?

McCain opposes Roe V Wade.  Therefore a lot of people who think he is pro-choice are incorrect.  I am typing text in order to help the SEO of this comment.  That I am doing is calling recycling for the netroots.  It was thought up by another user and I am doing it as best I can in this thread right here.

Here is some more text to help the link:

About Siena from Wikipedia:

Siena, like other Tuscan hill towns, was first settled in the time of the Etruscans (c. 900 BC to 400 BC) when it was inhabited by a tribe called the Saina. The Etruscans were an advanced people who changed the face of central Italy through their use of irrigation to reclaim previously unfarmable land, and their custom of building their settlements in well-defended hill-forts. Then, at the time of the Emperor Augustus, a Roman town called Saena Julia was founded in the site. The first document mentioning it dates from 70 AD. Some archaeologists assert it was controlled for a period by a Gaulish tribe called the Saenones.

The Roman origin accounts for the town's emblem - a she-wolf suckling the infants Romulus and Remus. According to legend, Siena was founded by Senius, son of Remus, who was in turn the brother of Romulus, after whom Rome was named. Statues and other artwork depicting a she-wolf suckling the young twins Romulus and Remus can be seen all over the city of Siena. Other etymologies derive the name from the Etruscan family name "Saina", the Roman family name of the "Saenii", or the Latin word "senex" ("old") or the derived form "seneo", "to be old".

Siena did not prosper under Roman rule. It was not sited near any major roads and therefore missed out on the resulting opportunities for trade. Its insular status meant that Christianity did not penetrate until the fourth century AD, and it was not until the Lombards invaded Siena and the surrounding territory that it knew prosperity. Their occupation and the fact that the old Roman roads of Aurelia and the Cassia passed through areas exposed to Byzantine raids, caused the roads between the Lombards' northern possessions and Rome to be re-routed through Siena. The inevitable consequence of this was that Siena prospered as a trading post, and the constant streams of pilgrims passing to and from Rome were to prove a valuable source of income in the centuries to come.

The oldest aristocratic families in Siena date their line to the Lombards' surrender in 774 to Charlemagne. At this point the city was inundated with a swarm of Frankish overseers who married into the existing Sienese nobility, and left a legacy that can be seen in the abbeys they founded throughout Sienese territory. Feudal power waned however, and by the death of Countess Matilda in 1115 the Mark of Tuscia which had been under the control of her family - the Canossa - broke up into several autonomous regions.

Siena prospered under the new arrangements, becoming a major centre of money lending and an important player in the wool trade. It was governed at first directly by its Bishop, but episcopal power declined during the 1100s. The bishop was forced to concede a greater say in the running of the city to the nobility in exchange for their help during a territorial dispute with Arezzo, and this started a process which culminated in 1167 when the commune of Siena declared its independence from episcopal control. By 1179, it had a written constitution.

This period was also crucial in shaping the Siena we know today. It was during the 1100s that the majority of the construction of the Duomo, Siena's cathedral, was completed. It was also during this period that the Piazza del Campo, now regarded as one of the most beautiful civic spaces in Europe, grew in importance as the centre of secular life. New streets were constructed leading to it and it served as the site of the market, and the location of various sporting events (perhaps better thought of as riots, in the fashion of the Florentine football matches that are still practised to this day). A wall was constructed in 1194 at the current site of the Palazzo Pubblico to stop soil erosion, an indication of how important the area was becoming as a civic space.

John McCain opposes an increase in the minimum wage he filibustered it.