How the Iowa caucuses work, part 3 (w/poll)

In this installment, we will discuss how hard it is to get new voters to turn out for the Iowa caucuses. (For the basics on the caucus system, you can find parts 1 and 2 of this series here or here.)

A few weeks ago Mark Kleiman wondered whether Barack Obama's incredible fundraising and charisma would enable him to win Iowa by flooding the state with paid field organizers late in the game.

Kleiman figured that since turnout for the Iowa caucuses in 2004 was about 125,000, and that was considered relatively high, a candidate could "blow the field away" by turning out 100,000 supporters. If Obama used his charisma to excite the public and then hired 2,000 field organizers for the final two weeks of the campaign, each field organizer could turn out 50 voters, and presto! Obama could win Iowa by spending only a small portion of the money he has raised.

Um, no. Follow me after the jump as I explain why Iowans do not say, "Get hot, get hot, get hot and organize at the end."

Here's how Kleiman explains his thought process:

Let's say a field organizer has to be paid $750/week, which might be on the high side. Then 2000 organizers for two weeks would cost $3 million. Double that to include supervisors and supervisors-of-supervisors (say, 100 supervisors managed by ten senior supervisors; presumably these folks would have to be paid better and hired for longer periods), 10,000 vans and drivers for the actual night of the caucuses, and office space. So it looks to me as if the whole thing could be done for $6 million.

Iowa has just under 2,000 precincts. He's talking about putting a brand-new field organizer on the ground in every precinct in the state with two weeks to go, hoping to turn out 50 people who otherwise would not show up for the caucus.

I worked my precinct hard before the last Iowa caucuses. We had about 175 voters in the room on caucus night. I would estimate that at most, my efforts over a period of months turned out 20 people who otherwise would not have voted. Perhaps another dozen or so who would have voted anyway ended up in my Kerry group, but might have supported another candidate if not for my efforts. That is a generous estimate. I may have influenced a smaller number than that. And I live in the neighborhood, and I walk my dog on the neighborhood streets every day.

There were plenty of people in my precinct whom I failed to turn out. Some were out of town. Some were elderly and in frail health, and didn't want to leave home at night. Some had young kids and didn't want to disrupt dinner/baths/bedtimes. One had just had her third child (she would have voted if we had a primary in which voting takes a few minutes, but she wasn't going to haul her whole family out of the house for more than an hour on a cold night). One had recently had an operation on her foot. One was extremely shy about talking to strangers.

I'm not talking about people who are disinterested in politics. I'm talking about people who vote in every general election (often by absentee ballot), but who did not show up at our precinct caucus in January 2004 despite multiple contacts by me, a neighbor.

This is not to say that I had no impact. Kerry ended up with three of the six delegates assigned by my precinct. If not for my efforts, he might have won only two delegates (or he might have won three anyway--it is hard to say). Edwards had a pretty big group in our precinct, but his precinct captain had not done much GOTV ahead of time, due to a state job that limits what he can do politically, and our crowd was that little bit bigger.

But let's not exaggerate how many new people an active precinct captain can bring to the room.

A certain percentage of people are highly involved in politics and will find some way to make it to the caucus no matter how inconvenient it is. That would be people like me--there in 2004 on a bitterly cold night with my baby in a sling. Or people like the elderly veteran who walks with a cane, whom I picked up because he called the Kerry campaign himself to ask if anyone could give him a ride. Of those 175 people who voted in my precinct, most fell into this category. They were following the campaign closely, had probably attended campaign rallies and were not going to miss the chance to participate in the process, no matter what their age or family circumstances.

A certain percentage of people just don't care about politics enough to attend a caucus. Nothing any field organizer says will change their minds.

A smaller group of people are kind of interested in politics. They read the paper, they watch the news, they vote in general elections. They may not be familiar with the caucus process. They may be unsure about where the caucus meets (the locations are almost always different from the polling stations people use on election day in November). They may wonder whether they will know anyone else who is going. They may be shy about voicing a preference in public. They may not realize that if they are registered as an independent or Republican, they can change their registration right there on caucus night and participate in the Democratic caucus.

These are the people who can be influenced by contacts from a field organizer or precinct captain. I was able to tell these people where the caucus was meeting, I reassured them that others on the same block would be there, and I got at least a couple of Republicans to change their registration so they could be there for us.

Could field organizers who parachuted in for the final two weeks identify and turn out 100,000 such people in Iowa? I seriously doubt it. I'll let Kevin Drum of Political Animal make the case:

I think there's something more fundamental here: all the money in the world isn't going to raise total turnout all that significantly. At least, it hasn't in the past. So what's more likely is that total turnout will remain at around 125,000, or maybe increase modestly to 150,000 or so, and the candidates will simply be spending more money per vote. And as Howard Dean discovered in Iowa last year, there's a limit to what money and sheer numbers of ground troops can do. Ringing someone's doorbell five times just isn't going to do any good if you haven't been able to make the sale after ringing it twice. And running ads ten times a night buys you barely more than running them five times a night. Once you saturate a market, there's nothing more that money can buy.

Kleiman responded to Drum's post, saying

All of that may be right. But let me be clear on what I was trying to say. The job of my imaginary organizers wasn't to "make the sale." I'm assuming that the Obama campaign will, using rallies and the internet, have already "made the sale" to many more voters than he actually needs to win. I was imagining the organizers as overcoming inertia and helping turn out those already-committed voters. The Iowa process is designed to de-mobilize ordinary citizens in order to empower the party and union insiders. The question is whether there's a way to spend money to reverse that.

My proposition is that, if you call an already-sold Obama voter two weeks before caucus night and say,

Can we count on you to turn out? Yes? Great! Where would you like to be picked up? The van can be there at 5:15 and get a cell phone number, and follow up with two calls and two emails in the meantime, and the van shows up on time, that person (1) will feel committed to going to the caucus (2) won't have to worry about finding it (3) won't forget and (4) can go over caucus tactics during the ride, and will therefore, with high probability, show up and act in concert with the other Obama folks at the same caucus. Just knowing that you're going with a group of people and won't feel like an idiot when you show up and have no idea what to do next ought to make a big difference.

I am not saying the people Kleiman describes do not exist. But I don't think there are enough of them to dramatically alter the outcome on caucus night. The strong campaigns will have people working their precincts months in advance. Even then, a lot of people just do not want the hassle or are not healthy enough to go out for a few hours on a January night. Or they're busy, and by the time they get off work and grab dinner, they don't feel like going out again.

Now, Obama fans, before you flame me in the comments, let me make clear: I am NOT suggesting that Obama is following Kleiman's hypothetical game plan. I've been called by two different field organizers for Obama already. I have no doubt that Obama will have a very strong army of field organizers and precinct captains working on his behalf for months.

Hillary Clinton seems to have brought on her field staff a little later, but I was recently called by a field organizer for the Clinton campaign. She hired some of Tom Vilsack's former staffers, and they obviously understand how important a strong organization is in Iowa. Whether she will be able to find a lot of volunteer precinct captains is a question for another diary.

John Edwards starts the process with a bunch of precinct captains who supported him last time, and his field organizers have also been calling active Ds trying to recruit precinct captains (I'm going to be volunteering for Edwards this time).

If you are interested in this kind of thing, check out this post by Cliff over at Iowa Progress on the hiring approaches taken by the big three Democratic presidential campaigns in Iowa.

Thus ends my lecture on getting voters to the room. Once the caucus has convened, field organizers and precinct captains can help in other ways, and I will get to that in a future diary when I talk more about screwy caucus math.

Meanwhile, take the poll and share your thoughts about the caucus process in the comments. If you've voted or volunteered in Iowa before, tell your stories!

(cross-posted at Daily Kos)

Tags: 2008 elections, Iowa, Presidential, Primaries (all tags)

Comments

36 Comments

Re: How the Iowa caucuses work, part 3 (w/poll)

   You make alot of good points....that said Obama is going to have plenty of money so it will come down to getting voters to the polls. I still like his chances of getting people to show that have shown enough interest to provide him with contact info or attend a rally. In addition Obama has yet to run the obvious TV ad which I think is going to be very tough for Edwards and Hillary, the simple comparison of his statements on Iraq in 2002 versus the others.

by nevadadem 2007-04-23 10:16AM | 0 recs
he sent out a glossy mailer on Iraq

About a month ago. I don't know if it went to all Iowa Democrats or just active primary voters. My husband and I both got copies. It contained the text of his speech at that one rally where he opposed the war. The mailer was well-done and solely positive on Obama (didn't slam Edwards or Clinton).

At some point I'm sure he will run that ad, but he's going to have to persuade people on the domestic policy front too. In 2004 I saw a survey showing that only about a third of Iowa Democratic caucus-goers supported the war, yet Kerry and Edwards finished well ahead of Dean.

So the number of people who will support Obama because of Iraq is limited and probably not enough to win Iowa on that issue alone.

by desmoinesdem 2007-04-23 10:20AM | 0 recs
Re: How the Iowa caucuses work, part 3 (w/poll)

by nevadadem 2007-04-23 10:16AM | 0 recs
Re: How the Iowa caucuses work, part 3 (w/poll)

 I agree Edwards will probably win Iowa what will be interesting is whether Obama or Hillary will be close and who comes in second. If Obama somehow pulls out Iowa unless he does something stupid he'll win New Hampshire and South Carolina much better states for him and probably cruise to the nomination.

by nevadadem 2007-04-23 10:41AM | 0 recs
I also feel like it's a battle for second place

But as late as November 2003, Kerry and Edwards were polling in the single digits in Iowa, so I take nothing for granted, and I'm sure John Edwards doesn't either!

by desmoinesdem 2007-04-23 10:59AM | 0 recs
Re: How the Iowa caucuses work, part 3 (w/poll)

  also I wouldn't compare Obama too much to Dean. Deans personal favorabilty collapsed in the state and then nation wide, I don't see Obama going down that way.

by nevadadem 2007-04-23 10:43AM | 0 recs
Dean's favorables

I don't really see it either, but FWIW, Dean had very high favorables in Iowa in December '03.

by clarkent 2007-04-23 10:51AM | 0 recs
I agree with that

Also, Dean had very poor message discipline, and I don't think Obama will make those mistakes.

by desmoinesdem 2007-04-23 10:58AM | 0 recs
Re: How the Iowa caucuses work, part 3 (w/poll)

The voters philosphy at the Iowa caucus will be simple: blow-out Hillary or else she will become the next president of the United States.

As a result, the vast majority of the anti-Hillary crowd will either support Obama or Edwards when all is said and done. The number one factor that impacts this vote is ELECTABILITY.

Who will the voters that support the candidates that recieve less than 15% of the total vote support in thier second vote?

Obama maybe slightly more popular than Edwards among Democratic circles because he is the new fresh face on the scene. However, Edwards is more electable in a general-election and is the only candidate who is formidable in swing states. (Ohio, Flordia, Missouri, Colorado, Neavada, Iowa, and New Mexico).

by Djneedle83 2007-04-23 11:12AM | 0 recs
a phrase I hear a lot

from Democrats in my precinct and around the Des Moines area: "I don't know, but not Hillary." or "We haven't decided yet, but I can tell you it won't be Clinton."

I also agree that supporters of the non-viable candidates are not likely to flow toward the Clinton group in their caucus.

I think that many caucus-goers will be motivated by the opportunity to blow out the Clinton candidacy. If she finishes a distant third despite having an experienced staff and the Vilsacks campaigning for her, it says a lot about what Democratic voters think.

On the other hand, if she finishes a strong second, she will have beaten expectations in Iowa.

by desmoinesdem 2007-04-23 11:18AM | 0 recs
General Election Prospects

I think that Obama and Edwards general election prospects are pretty even.  In all the polling for general election heats they do similarly.  An Obama/Richardson ticket would be pretty devastating.  I think that could lead to a landslide election.

by Obama08 2007-04-23 11:19AM | 0 recs
Re: How the Iowa caucuses work, part 3 (w/poll)

I've posted 2 semi-erudite(!) comments and MO SHOW.  Her's hopin'.

by pamelabrown 2007-04-23 11:27AM | 0 recs
Re: How the Iowa caucuses work, part 3 (w/poll)

Damn!  After all my efforts, what appears is a typo-ridden, banal comment!  Luckily, there are many intelligent posters.  My embarrassed.

by pamelabrown 2007-04-23 11:31AM | 0 recs
you may have hit "preview"

instead of post with your first couple of attempts. If the preview looks good to you, then scroll down and hit "post."

by desmoinesdem 2007-04-23 11:52AM | 0 recs
Re: How the Iowa caucuses work, part 3 (w/poll)

I don't live in Iowa anymore, but my parents and a lot of friends do.  (Decorah is my hometown where at age 17 I caucused for Bruce Babbit - I could caucus because I turned 18 before the election)

My contacts are a pretty progressive sample, but I hear a lot of people say they are not decided between Edwards and Obama.

My parents saw Kerry the day before the caucuses and because of that impressive performance my mom changed from Dean to Kerry - my dad stayed w/ Dean.  A lot of people do not make up their mind until the  VERY end.  

As for the numbers I am not sure - you can bet I will be up very late to find out early next year!  

by paida 2007-04-23 12:32PM | 0 recs
Babbitt did pretty well in my precinct

I was 18 in 1988, and Babbitt got two delegates from my suburban precinct. (I was for Simon, who had a plurality in the room.)

I also talk to many people who are undecided between Edwards and Obama. This is partly why I think Clinton will finish a distant third, and I would not even rule out a fourth-place finish for Clinton if Richardson makes a serious play for Iowa.

by desmoinesdem 2007-04-23 01:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Babbitt did pretty well in my precinct

Were you at the Jefferson/Jackson dinner in 1987?  I still have my "Young Democrats" T-shirt that has "signatures" of all the candidates. I collected money for the party at that dinner and as I was walking with a bucket of money down the hall Jesse Jackson walked up to me and said, "Hello Darling", and shook my hand.  (I was 17, but looked more like 14 so it wasn't at all creepy)

I remember that Jefferson/Jackson dinner was full of Simon people.  I hadn't even made up my mind yet at that point.

Looks like we both started our political obsession early!  

by paida 2007-04-23 06:23PM | 0 recs
was away at college

I graduated from high school in 1987 and was away at college for the JJ dinner that year. However, my brother and I flew back to Iowa so that we could participate in the caucuses in 1988!

Simon had a plurality in my precinct, but due to caucus math that was skillfully manipulated by Dukakis and Babbitt supporters, our precinct ended up assigning two delegates each to Simon, Dukakis and Babbitt. This experience was what originally made me question whether the caucus system was fair.

One of my most vivid memories of that campaign was the Democratic candidates' debate at the Iowa State Fair in August 1987.

Even though I was for Simon, I remember that Jesse Jackson stole the show. It wasn't just his rhyming rhetoric ("farmers want parity, not charity"), it was the way he related to the audience.
To make a point about our country's manufacturing base, he asked people to raise their hands if they personally owned a VCR. He went on about how Americans invented the VCR but there were no VCRs manufactured in the US--just about all of them came from Japan. Then he asked the crowd, "Raise your hands if you personally own an MX missile." Laughter and applause.

by desmoinesdem 2007-04-23 08:10PM | 0 recs
Re: How the Iowa caucuses work, part 3 (w/poll)

desmoines dem I know your for Edwards but do you think if national surveys hyped up by the media keep pushing Clinton v/s Obama that the undecidedss between Obama and Edwards might go with Obama as to have more "impact' on the race and stopping Hillary?

by nevadadem 2007-04-23 01:19PM | 0 recs
doubt it

Edwards was a total non-factor in national polls and NH polls even right on the eve of the Iowa caucuses last time, but people didn't go for Gephardt in order to "stop Dean."

Kerry was also running way behind, and the national media had written him off.

I think Iowans like to see the candidates in person and make up their own minds.

by desmoinesdem 2007-04-23 01:36PM | 0 recs
Re: doubt it

yeah good point, my gut feeling is Obama will get his vote out, kick ass in the college areas and Hillary will not have a good night while Edwards probably wins it.

by nevadadem 2007-04-23 01:42PM | 0 recs
Re: doubt it

If Obama only kicks ass in the college areas, he's in for a long night.

by clarkent 2007-04-23 02:38PM | 0 recs
I should add that

there are bound to be supporters of non-viable candidates who drift to Obama because they want to stop Hillary. I don't think Edwards will lose many people that way, though, because I doubt there will be many precincts anywhere in which Edwards is not viable.

Clarkent is right, Obama is going to have to do better in lots of places beyond the college towns--otherwise he will do about as well as Dean did.

Look at this post from Geraldine at Iowa Progress, which I referenced in part 2 of this series.

You can see that in the counties that have significant college-student or progressive populations, it also takes a lot more individuals to elect one of the 2,500 state delegates who will determine who wins on caucus night.

Iowa City (University of Iowa) is in Johnson County
Grinnell College is in Poweshiek County
Ames (Iowa State University) is in Story County
Fairfield (Maharishi University, lots of Greens) is in Jefferson County

So you can turn out thousands of supporters in these counties, but it will net you fewer state delegates than turning out the same number of supporters in most of the other counties.

If this is too confusing, see part 2 of my Iowa caucus diary series.

by desmoinesdem 2007-04-23 02:59PM | 0 recs
Re: I should add that

I was pretty sure that you would think that I was right, 'cos I learned it from you!

by clarkent 2007-04-23 03:33PM | 0 recs
I was going to post the same thing

but the master posted first.

by okamichan13 2007-04-23 06:06PM | 0 recs
Labor

I'm curious if you can comment on the role the labor unions play in organizing for the process.  I know that in my state, they are vital in the primary process, and that a UAW endorsment normally means that that candidate will win, because they can get people to the polls.  How does it work with the Iowa caucuses?

by ManfromMiddletown 2007-04-23 01:30PM | 0 recs
that is hard to say

Labor used to be considered quite influential in Iowa (e.g. in delivering victory for Gephardt in 1988).

In 2000 labor backed Gore, but I wouldn't have any idea how much that contributed to his victory over Bradley, since Gore had so many institutional advantages over Bradley.

In 2004 the largest union in Iowa, AFSCME, went for Dean, and I know they put a lot of muscle into GOTV for him. SEIU was also for Dean, and some of the other unions were for Gephardt. It didn't seem to help them much. Gephardt didn't even carry some of the most blue-collar counties in the state (such as Jasper County, home of Maytag HQ in Newton and a lot of UAW workers).

I am sure that all of the candidates will be trying to get labor endorsements in Iowa, but I honestly don't know how much those endorsements will help. I don't think it is a hugely important factor, since manufacturing isn't as big a portion of the Iowa economy as it used to be.

by desmoinesdem 2007-04-23 01:40PM | 0 recs
How the Iowa caucuses work

I find this running diary to be fascinating.  I hope you have more installments planned.  A while ago I heard someone say that who people's second choice is matters a great deal in the caucus.  Is that true and if so, why?

by ditka 2007-04-24 05:51AM | 0 recs
Re: How the Iowa caucuses work

It sure does because if your first choice is not viable in that precinct, then the other candidates that are viable (15% or more) will be courting you big time.  He/She should have a good idea of who they would prefer to support if their candidate is not viable.  It will make it that much easier on the person at the caucus to know who to join of the remaining viable candidates in that precinct.

Hey Demoinesdem, is it true that there is nothing in the rules of the caucus that forces a caucus goer to join any of the viable candidates?  Can't you stick to being unaffiliated rather than join another group?

by minvis 2007-04-24 07:10AM | 0 recs
Re: How the Iowa caucuses work

It sure does because if your first choice is not viable in that precinct, then the other candidates that are viable (15% or more) will be courting you big time.  He/She should have a good idea of who they would prefer to support if their candidate is not viable.  It will make it that much easier on the person at the caucus to know who to join of the remaining viable candidates in that precinct.

Hey Demoinesdem, is it true that there is nothing in the rules of the caucus that forces a caucus goer to join any of the viable candidates?  Can't you stick to being unaffiliated rather than join another group?

by minvis 2007-04-24 07:10AM | 0 recs
Re: How the Iowa caucuses work

Sorry about the double post.  Sticky fingers on the Post button.  That's the problem with trying to do this on your blackberry.

by minvis 2007-04-24 07:21AM | 0 recs
Re: How the Iowa caucuses work

is it true that there is nothing in the rules of the caucus that forces a caucus goer to join any of the viable candidates?  Can't you stick to being unaffiliated rather than join another group?

I believe so. Famously, Carter didn't actually win the 1976 Iowa caucus, "Uncommitted" did.

by clarkent 2007-04-24 07:23AM | 0 recs
Re: How the Iowa caucuses work

This begs the question.  If the anti-Hillary vote is as pronounced as some of us believe, then there could be a coordinated agreement between Obama, Edwards and perhaps Richardson folks that if only one of us is viable that we agree to go to the other's group rather than Clinton's group.  Like I think was mentioned earlier in the 1988 caucus, they may have a plurality of people in their group, but they do not get more delegates if you plan it just right.

by minvis 2007-04-24 07:43AM | 0 recs
absolutely--I will discuss this kind of thing

in the next diary in the series.

Yes, you can play around with the caucus math, and if you are knowledgeable and a little lucky, you can deny a rival candidate an extra delegate even if that candidate has more supporters in the room than you have.

This is one of the reasons I prefer primaries to caucuses.

As I talk to undecided voters, many of them are not considering Hillary. If their first choice turns out not to be viable, the dynamic you suggest is definitely going to be in play.

by desmoinesdem 2007-04-24 10:02AM | 0 recs
no one is forced to join another group

You can stay outside any of the preference groups if you choose. In my experience, people do tend to join one of the other candidates' groups.

by desmoinesdem 2007-04-24 10:00AM | 0 recs
I'll get to the second choices issue

in the next diary in this series, probably some time in the next few weeks.

by desmoinesdem 2007-04-24 10:03AM | 0 recs

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