No. I don't believe that one need be in favor of gay marriage to support equal rights. For some people, marriage really does have a religious significance, and I can live with that.
However, unlike Drew, I am not willing to give Rick Warren the benefit of the doubt. He's been saying anti-hay things for far too long for this sudden realization of his to be anything but politically expedient.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. First, I don't accept that because we're "excluding" people like Warren, we are therefore embracing some kind of Newt Gingrich philosophy. I find that ridiculous.
Nor do I believe that Warren was merely "tone deaf" in comparing gays to pedophiles. He's been saying this stuff for years. It wasn't a slip of the tongue. Even though he's sanitized his chrurh's website, they still don't allow unrepentant gays to join. That seems like a pretty clear statement.
Very nicely put. I find myself in that large middle group as well. I can't defend Obama on this because I think it's just wrong, but I don't think he's The Betrayer either. He still has more support, but I think remaining silent when our leaders do the wrong thing is servile, not support.
Maybe something good will come of this, but I have my doubts. It seems unlikely in the extreme that anyone who didn't already support Obama will come to his side because of Rick Warren.
Are you being glib? You seem to be suggesting that we should just accept whatever our leaders give us and be quiet about it, whether we like it or not. That doesn't work for me. At what point are we allowed to tell people (especially those on our side) that we don't like what they are doing? Is that even possible now without being called a purity troll or a Puma?
It's not my intention to dis your band. It certainly is an honor for you, and you should be proud of it. But I feel pretty confident that my point wasn't missed. This had little or nothing to do with your band. It's about Rick Warren and the hate that pours out his mouth.