Jerome, you were right.

by dayspring, Mon Nov 29, 2010 at 01:18:02 PM EST

 

About everything.  The election, Obama "gunning down the rest of the Democratic Party" or whatever, etc.  You were right.  I didn't want to believe it.  I still dont.  

At this point so what if you supported Mark Warner.  I'm in total agreement.  We need our own tea-party-like revolution to take back our party from these monied, corporatist elites.  

For some reason we lose to the establishment when we primary our sell-out candidates.  And now with this nonsense:  http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2010/11/have-contributions-from-donors-been.html

It's here we go all over again.  I thought this fight was done when we got Howard Dean in as DNC Chair?  

So a few questions:

What do we do now?

Can we take a noticeable stand for Progressive Liberalism and against "Obama neo-liberalism"?  

Can we get Dean back in charge of the DNC?

Can we overcome DCCC meddling in the primaries that will take place for the 2012 election?  

 

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Coatofarms
boot licking toadyism at its finest

:)

by Trey Rentz 2010-11-29 04:20PM | 0 recs
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RE: boot licking toadyism at its finest

I'm barefoot.

Just got back from an internet vacation for a couple of weeks.

 

by Jerome Armstrong 2010-11-29 08:18PM | 0 recs
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Done when Howard was chair.

The entire destruction of the democratic party was done when Howard Dean was chair.

He gave one of 2 swing states the finger (Ohio and Florida have decided the last major presidential elections).  And if you have ever been to Ohio and PA they are racist as fuck and running a black candidate may have lost us Ohio (although on that one I would stand with him on principal but it should have been a qualified candidate seriously who though having professional teleprompter reader was a good idea?).

Howard Dean is a BIG part of the problem.

If we had run the smart wing of the party instead of the teleprompter wing this would never have happened.  Hillary as pres would be kicking ass and Obama as VP would have experience for his turn.

But its a lost cause because  kos and friends will move left, we will lose in 2012 and only after that will the sun shine so hard the kool aid stains will be obvious to all... And by then the country will see us as losers like they did with carter and that may not wash off for 12 fucking years just like carter.  Had Bill Clinton not run in 1992 starting at the peak of Bush sr's popularity we would have been the party of losers for 30 years because of Carter.  We may be looking at that kind of legacy here.

Dean from the "democratic" wing of the democratic party started this fucking mess.  He played to the move left.  Don't forget it.  Don't drink different color cool aid and think it will make it all better.

 

We need someone who understands real politic not liberal kool aid bullshit.  Deanaics thought they turned the most conservative districts into liberal ones in one election with magic people power.  When in reality Ted Kennedy's seat isn't even blue anymore.  Holy crap how can so much fail be celebrated like this???

by donkeykong 2010-11-30 04:49AM | 0 recs

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