The Pennsylvania Chaos Continues [Updated]

Ay yi yi.  Pass the damn asprin, because the chaos in Pennsylvania continues.

As many know, Dems in PA acheived a one vote victory in the State House.  But, just as we thought we had it all wrapped up, a dumbass, selfish State Rep from Reading, PA, said that he was going to vote for the Republican, John Perzel.

But, now in a twist, the Dems won the House!


At the last second, the Democrats put forward a Republican from NE Philly (and a big target for Dems generally), Dennis O'Brien.  O'Brien won, and is now speaker of the House.

Basically, it is still chaos.  It is totally unclear if O'Brien has switched parties, or what.  The Republican Reps actually tried to ask this question, but were shouted down.

At Young Philly Politics, we have a couple people in Harrisburg, trying to sort it out.

More as this develops.  But if the answer to not nominating a jerk for Speaker of the House was to nominate a Republican, I will be pretty damned unhappy.

Update [2007-1-3 10:18:16 by DanielUA]: The Basic punchline is this: The Speaker will stay a Republican, but basically will let the Democrats advance their agenda unfettered. So, in the short term, it is not bad. However, in the long term, I still think this sucks, for branding if nothing else.

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Re: The Pennsylvania Chaos Continues

Latest update is that it still doesn't look like he is switching.  So far the only thing confirmed is Dems control the committees.  But, the PA Speaker totally controls the agenda and schedule, so, this would still be a big deal.

by DanielUA 2007-01-02 09:48AM | 0 recs
Re: The Pennsylvania Chaos Continues

Look, O'Brien is from Philly. He's not power mad like Perzel and won't be in the business of thwarting Rendell's agenda like Perzel planned to do. I hope he switches, but it's not necessary.

It's much worse that Cruz and Youngblood voted for Perzel.

by phillydem 2007-01-02 09:54AM | 0 recs
I Lived In Philly In the Late 70s

and it's hard to believe the politics there are just as fucked up as ever.

But, then, I've lived in California most of my life.  So I really should be used to this sort of thing by now.

by Paul Rosenberg 2007-01-02 03:33PM | 0 recs
Re: The Pennsylvania Chaos Continues [Updated]

Well this is partiually your fault when I came on here and asked for money for pennsylvania candidates that the party abandoned who could have won because they were against the pay raise and probally would have made a difference in elected a Democrat other than De Wesse I was scoufed at ignore or lectured that no one really cared. Now your all shooting your mouths off.

by orin76 2007-01-03 05:45AM | 0 recs
Re: The Pennsylvania Chaos Continues [Updated]

Yes, Pennsylvania, I apologize!  This is my fault!

Also, Orrin, assuming you are talking to me, I have no idea what you are talking about.

But still, Pennsylvania, buddy, let me apologize again.  Also, Pennsylvania, I would like to apologize for the Steel Industry going south, for industry leaving Philly, and for Norman Braman dismantling the early 1990s Eagles, with Reggie White, Clyde Simmons, et. al.  My bad.  I just thought we had to hold a line on free agency.

by DanielUA 2007-01-03 07:18AM | 0 recs
Re: The Pennsylvania Chaos Continues [Updated]

No i'm talking about PhillyDem (j/k) no i'm talking about everyone that poured tons of money into Federal campaign even where they didn't live or campaigns that simply didn't need it  but couldn't find any money for state candidates that did where it could have made the difference. The ones that now scream about that we ended up with a republican for speaker eventhough we hold the house. Who blame this  on Caltagirone but didn't do anythinging to make sure he didn't have the power to do this. Who continued to insist that De wesse had tha party's interest at heart rather than his own which in the end probally cost the party a larger majority. Who didn't do anything to fund the candidates that were against the payraise who he punished. At some point there is personal responiblity something i fail to see on mydd.

by orin76 2007-01-03 10:11AM | 0 recs
Re: get a grip

You need to get a grip on yourself. Just because
some candidates in the LV didn't win, it isn't because the HDCC or PA Dem Party or some other entity didn't fund them better. The last time I looked the LV had a Democratic party, they have plenty of activists and bloggers up there, too.
That is where your work lies, helping to motivate
and educate the LV Democrats and those voters who
are potential Democrats, not posting on every political website you can find the same tripe you post here. Dems picked up NINE seats in the state house, that is far more than I thought possible regardless of money.

Now quite possibly more state and national money would have helped Dertinger win in the 15th as that race turned out to be a lot closer than anyone predicted rather than having been spent in the 6th where Lois Murphy hasn't been able to get over the hump, but no one knew that in advance.

by phillydem 2007-01-04 01:02AM | 0 recs
Re: get a grip

Not some none of the non-inc candidates in the Valley won. That is because of De wesse and he's personal attempt to kill anyone that wouldn't bow to him and because of "coordinated" campaign killed every else's campaign. Yes Yes we hear this garbage from you Philly boys all the time. We can't win and neither can anyone else with the Hdcc bad mouthing candidates to donors they and De wesse doesn't like and "coordinated" campaigns coming in and raiding the volunteer bases here. We could have won more than 9 seats but the De wesse had to keep power so now we have what we have.

by orin76 2007-01-04 02:33PM | 0 recs
Re: The Pennsylvania Chaos Continues [Updated]

Kos has front-paged a post by a member of the state Dem delegation which explains what is going on.

Go there for a sensible explanation of this issue.

Sorry no link. I have to get back to work.

by KB 2007-01-03 08:19AM | 0 recs


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