Joe Klein: Are you kidding me (Bill Clinton)?

I suppose people will either question my credibility or more likely that of Joe Klein but it is interesting that all sorts of journalists  in the mainstream media are questioning Bill Clinton's statements and the campaign of Hillary Clinton for what can only be termed smears, lies and hypocrisy in their approach to winning back the White House.

The Clintons will say anything to get elected. They will do anything. They will lie and they will cheat. They will play gutter politics.

January 24, 2008 9:46
Are You Kidding Me?
Posted by Joe Klein | Comments (54) | Permalink | Trackbacks (0) | Email This
Let me get this straight: Obama wins Iowa. In a desperate move--unprecedented for an ex-President in American politics--Bill Clinton decides to impede Obama's momentum by inserting himself into the campaign. He attacks Obama on an almost daily basis, sometimes falsely. He makes a spectacle of himself. And then he blames the press for not covering the substance of the campaign?

"This is what you live for," he told CNN reporter Jessica Yellin.. "They just spin you up on this and you happily go along," Clinton said. As aides steered him away, he scolded: "Shame on you."

I can't believe that Hillary Clinton wants the world to think that whenever she gets into political trouble, she's going to have her husband come roaring about, breaking furniture, sucking up oxygen, spewing carbon dioxide. My impression is that she's strong enough to defend herself--she certainly showed that in the recent Democratic debate. But apparently she's not strong enough to control Mr. Bill...and if that's the case, any sane voter would have to think twice before enabling this sort of circus act in the White House.

Tags: Bill Clinton, Joe Klein, Media, press (all tags)



You are so right

"I suppose people will either question my credibility or more likely that of Joe Klein"

The Obamanauts are now quoting Klein who has long been one of the standard figures in their demonology. Are you serious. Joe Klein. It's becoming laughable.

by ottovbvs 2008-01-25 07:28AM | 0 recs
Re: You are so right

But thats the point its not Joe Klein but pretty much anyone who is paying attention.

Jonathan ALter has another piece along the same lines. I will post it in a bit.

Sure laugh off the source but you're going to have to spend a lot of time laughing. At some point you ought to read what the charge is and think about it.

by crackityjones 2008-01-25 07:32AM | 0 recs
Re: You are so right

Alter has been appearing nightly for months dissing Clinton. Why not go the whole hog and put up the postings by Broder, Dowd, Rich, Matthews, Robinson, Gerson, Krauthammer. Are you really as ------ as you sound.

by ottovbvs 2008-01-25 07:38AM | 0 recs
More bs from an in the tank media turd for Obama

These guys just don't get it.

They will all be scratching their heads this weekend as they push the cart up and the down the aisle of Whole Foods, drinking a latte, asking themselves why don't the voters get, Obama is a saint, he is such a super person, and Bill is such a big meanie to him.   "Can I get a price check on the arugula please?"

by dpANDREWS 2008-01-25 07:29AM | 0 recs
Re: Joe Klein: Are you kidding me (Bill Clinton)?

Also interesting how people commend the Clintons for doing anything to win. WE've seen them before on MyDD- the Hillary supporters en masse regurtitating "Thats why we need the Clintons! They understand we need to do anything to win!"

Anything??? Its all so the end justifies the means isn't it? Its all about winning! The rest doesn't matter all that much. If we get the White House no matter what we do- no matter how much we lie or cheat or destroy other people- then it will all be worth it.

Power corrupts folks and the Clintons are a prime example of that as they continue to act as if they are above everyone and anyone AND in some sense above the law. Do we think these people are going to do much for us?

by crackityjones 2008-01-25 07:30AM | 0 recs
When it comes to time to name the next SCJ

Which will happen in 2009, 2010 at the lasted, yes winning will have mattered.

by dpANDREWS 2008-01-25 07:32AM | 0 recs
Re: When it comes to time to name the next SCJ

I have to agree. If you can't piss a few people off and inflict a little collateral damage, how are you going to bring peace to the Middle East, or get Big Oil to back off its roadblocks to alternative fuels, or get the AMA and Big Insurance and Big Pharma to allow useful healthcare reform?

Bill Clinton got us a balanced budget, and because of it, some Democrats cast tough votes in Congress that cost them getting re-elected.  Some good people went down to defeat.  That is unfortunate, but if you haven't got the stomach for it, you're better suited for croquet than politics.

Show me someone who plays to win, thank you, even if it does require getting a little dirty.

by gas28man 2008-01-25 08:46AM | 0 recs
Obama of course is not doing everything to win

Comments like this speak for themselves really. The Clintons are the source of all evil despite what we've lived through over the past seven years. Come to St Obama and all will be well. It's basically juvenile tosh.  

by ottovbvs 2008-01-25 07:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Joe Klein: Are you kidding me (Bill Clinton)?
And in what "holier than thou" context are you whitewashing and turning a blind eye to the many, MANY, (scores of many) misstatements, mischaracterizations, fibs, low-blows, outright smears and "be a Democrat for a day" tactics the Obama campaign has given us?  Why is your indignation not directed towards that, since you seem to be preaching the school of "pure as the driven snow" here?
by georgep 2008-01-25 11:03AM | 0 recs
Put another way

Voters don't put an ounce of stock into what Klein or Dowd or Broder or Alterman or whomever thinks.   Only other people like Klein and Dowd and Broder and Alterman do.

by dpANDREWS 2008-01-25 07:31AM | 0 recs
Re: Joe Klein: Are you kidding me (Bill Clinton)?

It's amazing how the media huffs itself up into righteous indignation every time Bill Clinton criticizes them.  Jon Stewart had an awesome, awesome clip of Soledad O'Brien last night.

In the battle of Bill Clinton vs. the media, and I have to shake my head at how perfectly BC has set up the whole thing, I'm pretty sure Joe Klein is not an objective observer.  I'm also pretty sure I know which side the public will come down on.

I can't tell you how many people I have talked to in the last couple days who have said "they told me Bill Clinton really lashed out at the media, but when I watched the video it was nothing like that!"  The media loses more and more credibility every time someone watches that video.  Joe Klein will never get it.

by Steve M 2008-01-25 07:36AM | 0 recs
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I think this video (and other similar misrepresentations) may well be the moment that the media jumps the shark with the American people.

The best part? The pompous blowhard pundits have no clue whatsoever that the American people are laughing at them.

by hwc 2008-01-25 07:39AM | 0 recs
Stevie, you got it pal.

The public has zero respect for the media. Fundamentally it's very bad because at some point we're going to need them. But you are entirely right BC jabs the press, the media rush to cover it because "he's" news  and the public love it When the Obama fans are reduced to promoting Klein who they normally wouldn't spit on if he was on fire, as the voice of authority on BC it's got to the parodic stage.

by ottovbvs 2008-01-25 07:43AM | 0 recs
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The problem for Klein, Amdinder, Alter, and the rest of the Georgetown Social Club chattering class is that, in the YouTube age, people can actually watch the video and see the media distortions.

The media should just hang it up. Fill their airtime running C-SPAN satellite feeds of actual campaign speeches. The pundits should drop any pretext of working and just spend 24/7 sniffing scented geraniums at Sally Quinn's cocktail parties. Or, better yet, send them to GITMO as "enemy combatants". The country would be better off.

by hwc 2008-01-25 07:36AM | 0 recs

Drive-by is in a panic mode about their golden boy.

by prisonbreak 2008-01-25 07:36AM | 0 recs
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WOW! Truth hurts folks doesn't it!

The Clintons are being exposed for a bunch of liars.

Its ok to admit it guys thats the first step! Recognize Hillary is lying and will say anything to get elected.

You can admire her for it! You don't have to run from it!

Be proud! Look forward to 8 more years of this crap! THAT will REALLY move the country forward!

by crackityjones 2008-01-25 07:39AM | 0 recs
your sour grapes are

dripping out of the corner of your mouth.  Hurts to get your ass kicked by a girl huh?

by MollieBradford 2008-01-25 07:44AM | 0 recs
After all Joe Klein says so

So it must be true. This is a bit like the boston strangler promoting womens security issues. Are you guys sure you want to continue this line.

by ottovbvs 2008-01-25 07:46AM | 0 recs
Can anyone point me to the Op Ed
where the sausage fingered Klein every questioned anything the other candidates spouses said?
Nope, I didn't think so.  I suppose Crackity is just as outraged at their involvement in their husband's campaign?
by MollieBradford 2008-01-25 07:41AM | 0 recs
Re: Joe Klein: Are you kidding me (Bill Clinton)?

Woohoo!!!  The more the media advocates for St. Obama and slams Bill, the more the voters love Bill and Hillary!

I love the fact that the media is still operating on  the false premise that voters care what they think.  Clue:  After the last 7 years, the American people have less trust for the media than they do for politicians.

Keep it up, blowhards!

by WMCB 2008-01-25 08:12AM | 0 recs
A new level of depravity

Just when you thought the media couldn't sink any lower:

Atlantic magazine editor Andrew Sullivan has today called for a full accounting of Bill and Hillary's sex life (on "constistutional" grounds).

Reminds me of the more gentile time Barbara Walters shocked the world by asking President Carter if he and Roslyn slept in a double bed or in single beds. Carter replied, "sometimes we sleep in a single bed, but it's a lot more comfortable for the two of us in a double."

by hwc 2008-01-25 08:41AM | 0 recs
Re: A new level of depravity

This latest Sullivan piece was unbelievable but there are Obama fans here posting comment about how wonderful Sullivan is. It is truly surreal.    

by ottovbvs 2008-01-25 11:06AM | 0 recs
I'm tired of this "liar liar" crap

with nary a hint of what the actual "lie" is supposed to have been.

Here's a challenge:

Name me an actual "lie" by Bill Clinton.  Quote the words, and tell me why it's a lie.  I'll bet I can turn around and give you 3 worse deviations from the truth by Obama.

by Trickster 2008-01-25 09:38AM | 0 recs
Re: I'm tired of this "liar liar" crap


by georgep 2008-01-25 11:06AM | 0 recs
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Oh please, we'll be cheering when Bill goes after Mitt or McCain- we've seen over and over again that Republicans don't win these elections fairly- we need all the help we can get.

by reasonwarrior 2008-01-25 03:47PM | 0 recs


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